200+HP Gain… Just By Swapping Ignition?? Non Boosted BBC on Pump Gas

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[@shawnfetter8226]

You’re very welcome Steve and glad you like the engine stand. Hopefully it makes working on those big SMX’s a little more enjoyable 👊🏻 Merry Christmas and thanks for the shout out! Thank you for all the content, tips and tricks you give all of us unfiltered which helps us all learn a little more than we knew before. Looking forward to making the SMX setup I have run with you big boys soon!

[@user-on6vv2qn2d]

You are a good person

[@budgina]

Steve, Watching the interaction between you and your son is worth a million bucks! The boy is really growing up in front of our eyes. Your family unit is the most important thing in life. Love your videos! Thank you!

[@irdmoose]

I know why Dewey didn't like the dog box. He clearly prefers synchros!

[@flinch622]

He didn't want to miss Nate saying "don't tase me bro!"

[@adamtheninjasmith2985]

Nice play! 😂👍

[@paulmartin8212]

Kile, please be careful with those loose strings on your hoodie around belts. Accidents can happen so quick. Nobody wants to get hurt around doing what they love.

[@JoshStLouis314]

I'm for tucked in, always. 90% of the time, they get in your way when leaning over anyway.

[@jasonsweeten2851]

I got my long hair caught in fan belt of running car once woke up with a bald spot bloody nose and concussion and no idea what just happened to me

[@BSquaredmotors]

I have hoodies I just take the string out of, I had a hoodie string get stuck in a jig saw and it was very scary and that was a jig saw. Imagine like a lathe or circ saw. You’re in some trouble I can assure you

[@russellridge8623]

Had that happen with shop apron. Using free standing grinder polishing side. Big wire wheel. Grabbed apron strings tied in front. Managed to lock my arms straight and it proceeded to rip that heavy denim apron and part of my shirt right off. Had a few bruises but nothing bad. Guys all had great laugh and nicknames once they saw I was not hurt.

[@JoshStLouis314]

@@russellridge8623 and that's why you tie under the apron when front-tieing

[@cembellsteve]

That's right Steve, TEACH him. Don't give him all the answers. Make him figure it out. Like I said before, you have to love working with your son. What a great combo. Got to keep the Morris name going Crap that's what i was going to get you this year. A engine stand. I could send you some hot muggy air from Louisianan So what have you thought about doing or making with the extra parts from the CNC mill? Rails and a ball screw.

[@b.c4066]

Pretty strong endorsement for a crank trigger and coil near plug setup.

[@Mike44460]

Kile, @ 5:13, the piece you are holding is the key. The machined place it fits into is the keyway.

[@daverupes7022]

Sean is the man! Wow that's a sweet gift even approved by Steve and Kyle Morris

[@br549rdr]

Shawn,Sean your the man💪💪💪Very nice of you to get that stand for them. 😇😇🙏🏻

[@danielsmith-ze3wy]

I bet that monster sounds good in person

[@riccocool]

Man has Kyle come a long way in a year. Keep up the great work.

[@bb7549]

TOTALLY agree, he is really getting to be quite presence working through the dyno sessions.

[@dertmatyui]

I love Kyle. His genuine curiosity is awesome, asking what difference in the camshaft would do 8500 rpm, etc. takes some questions right out of my mouth

[@TheOfficial_InsaneStang]

Tim Taylor would be proud sir!!!!

[@superheatsubcool]

It's great watching your son become a Bad Ass, from father to son.

[@sbcbuilder4279]

says: "No blanket, no bones, nothing to chew on." That is why I didn't go in there dad.

[@mikecabral1579]

Brought back memories of when my Dad was teaching me things A different industry but the same concept. Critical thinking with good results proves that you have a good understanding of the subject matter.

[@vehdynam]

Great update with interesting tech as well.Nice to see the great interaction you and Kyle have. Keep moving forward.

[@136092195]

Best Tech and videos yet Thank you Steve and Kyle And Merry Christmas from the crazy old man in the Yucatan

[@mikebates7234]

Way to go Sean ! I was just going to wish Steve and all at SME a merry and safe Christmas! You topped me!!

[@picklesontheroad]

Years ago, I built an old Harley Shovelhead engine. Bored, decked, balanced, ported and installed a ported and polished CV carb. I was expecting around 100 HP. After fire up and break in, it felt stock! After a bunch of playing around with timing the cam and ignition, jetting and a few valve adjustments, I figured to dual plug the heads. It ran really good when it was running rich. Installed the dual plugs, and the matching ignition, DAMNED THING LEAPED TO LIFE! We fairly easily hit our 100HP goal. Sometimes all it takes is the right ignition to bring a build together. Old tech sometimes needs a little bit of help to bring it to life.

[@Ron_Masterjohn]

Was that with a points ignition or electronic?

[@picklesontheroad]

@@Ron_Masterjohn That was with points and dual coils to start with, I tried a hallcell electronic ignition but didn't like how hard it was to start and went back to the points.

[@Ron_Masterjohn]

@@picklesontheroad interesting thanks,

[@Sig8690]

Good job on the video Kyle. Your best job of explaining things and overall comments. You looked very comfortable in front of the camera.

[@sineater1572]

Right on Shawn/Sean...Merry Christmas

[@davidthompson245]

Nice gift John!. Kudos to you brother.

[@briananderson5284]

WOW Awesome, Thanks Professor Morris Jr for the awesome lesson this is the best Engine Channel hand's down !!!! Keep up the Amazing Work!!!!!

[@badhombre8383]

Shoutout to whoever sent Steve the engine stand 👊👊

[@WyFoster]

7:50 Classic dad stuff. He's got it Steve! My dad was exactly the same way and look how I turned out 😁

[@samuelsmith1642]

I love the puppy Q.C.. He's making sure everything is copacetic lol

[@WhyDidYouTurn]

i work for CH Hanson in Naperville Illinois, Really a great company, they sell a lot of really nice vices clamps, saw, grinders and industrial equipment for welders like myself. I hope our products do an excellent job for you. George Gibson our product manager does a great job providing spare parts and accessories for anything you'll need Steve. Godspeed, Ryan Amador

[@jayceecombs6887]

And there's "Dewey" look'n for something "CHEWY!" GIT ON IT BOY! THANK YOU, J

[@1320pass]

Mountain Motor. In a rusty old whatever.. I like it!

[@scrotiemcboogerballs1981]

Great video guys glad you didn’t get sick after the show several people I know that went are sick since then thanks for sharing

[@michaelloth5870]

Kyle, Congratulations on that monster engine tune. I was impressed with your call to change the ignition out. Yes that is a big cam and thanks for sharing some of the specs!!!

[@Skibumsplace]

Well done young Morris! You're a natural.

[@justinfargas2367]

It's really great seeing Kyle grow in confidence so much each time in front of the camera. Great video chaps. Hope to see you in Australia one day.

[@STARSHIPTROOP]

My step-dad taught me how to read plugs back in 79 at 11yrs old, then built my 1st 2.0l Ford w/ dual Webber carbs that revved to 8500 rpm. screamer. We won our class championship on my 1st built engine.

[@markgerrard1892]

Steve, FWIW, Beta is one of the biggest pro tool manufactures in Europe and elsewhere in the world. They have a very rich motorsports heritage and have been in the tool business for decades. Quite a few F1 teams use their stuff and their yearly, beefy catalog is very drool-worthy. About 20 years ago I worked for a friend that tried to introduce Beta to the US market (we were based out of Denver) but the domestic brands were too entrenched and had too many mechanics in their debt to switch even through Beta was superior (IMHO).

[@greggkiest1069]

Your work is always on point. Enjoyed more time with Kyle. So much like dad.

[@67stang65]

I really like how you buy the tool for the need and what’s it’s designed to do and not for the name and price. I’m the exact same way..I’m only going to use a tool maybe once or twice a month or even a year I have no problem buying a lot less expensive tool..but if it’s a everyday use tool I’ll spend the money on name brand

[@BenjySparky]

Steve and Kyle, y'all rock! Deweys doing Dewey, I see. Got to love that engine stand. Peace

[@johnnystanley4469]

Wow that is a big big difference.

[@scottholbert2742]

Great job Kyle, and as always you to Steve

[@marcusambrester]

Great job, Kyle!

[@710performance]

Thanks for another great video!

[@kilgorefamily76]

You have to be really proud Steve, Kyle is becoming quite the tech and looking way more relaxed on camera.

[@liamterry5301]

Awesome job Kyle!!!! You did awesome on that to figure that. And it make 200+ more HP!!!! 💪🥵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@michaelnoyes4817]

Merry Christmas to you and your family mate

[@user-nv5vx5sh8b]

A 2" spacer under the throttle plates may slow the torque drop at RPM. Plenum (room to breath)

[@russellridge8623]

Kyle needs one of those in his Mustang. Help keep front end down. 😂. Merry Christmas all Steve & Co.

[@jamesf2656]

Wow! What a gift, very kind

[@joep1253]

Great job Kyle, thinking outside the box

[@plnthrd]

decades ago I got fed up with MSD ignition and my buddy that ran a Pro Mod convinced me to change my stuff to Mallory....I did and gained .05 and 3 MPH!

[@JeepnJ89]

Good job man, those numbers N/A blow my mind.

[@jaygullion8013]

Your gonna love that saw when fabricating stuff! My dad had one we did everything from roll bar tubing to small pencil tubing to making bushings! Looks cumbersome but it's not its very versatile especially if you put wheels on it lol

[@Kraken270Jetsprint]

Like the editing steve .esp in video reminders upcoming videos

[@zachgertken4077]

Love the videos keep up the good work!!

[@StewMac570]

Sorry Steve, I didn’t quite understand your explanation of the coil and taser. Could you please do live demonstration on Nate so we all get a better understanding of the differences?

[@gafrers]

Great as always. This huge engine reminds me of Sonny's engines. On a different fuel how much more power would it make? 10% more on E85? 15% more on Methanol?

[@flyonbyya]

An easy 1200 hp @ 6500 with Conservative tune on 93….The beauty of a mountain motor!

[@bradduranso534]

Steve: “Kyle’s going to show you guys how to read a spark plug.” (next scene) Kyle: “yep spark plug looks good…” ✍🏼👂🏼👀

[@JohnRoberts71]

Great content thanks for sharing

[@michaelwiddifield920]

I just love the way Steve is like you know it's only 1200 horsepower it's not like you're going to be pulling the shoots I mean you're talking about an engine you're going to drive on the street you can put pump gas in it and you got 1253 horsepower right there under your foot anytime you want like Steve talks about like no problem

[@derx6666]

Love how Steve makes Kyle think for himself instead of just giving him the answers. Also you might've lost (or not made) money on this dyno session, but you gained quite a bit of new knowledge in the meantime. Crazy to see the massive difference between the MSD box and the smartcoils. Great video guys.

[@jsmcortina]

The IGN1A coils are inductive vs. capacitive discharge. As Steve said, the inductive spark last a lot longer (typically 1ms). You also lose spark energy through the dizzy - was this one phased correctly? As far as I'm aware, the primary reason people went to CDI was in the days of distributors when a single inductive coil didn't have enough time to charge at high revs. With the availability of multi-coil systems, no need to waste spark energy in a dizzy.

[@johnnystanley4469]

Nice work Kyle

[@Frank289100]

KYLE, NICE BIG CUBE FORD CLEVELAND STYLE ENGINE YOU HAVE THERE.

[@michaelgallopo5879]

Interesting video on that engine keep living the dream ✨️

[@eddieparis6739]

Thanks for the video

[@bayoumike544]

I like when the caution screen comes up. I know its going to be good! Not that anything is bad.

[@Fl3uv3]

Nice Optimisation! Fall off curve gone.

[@whyamihereg]

Nice job Kyle.

[@11ride4life]

I wish I had a father like you, he is a lucky kid!

[@recoilrob324]

It's nice to have a power fall off a little so when you shift you're rocking the rpm over the peak...very nice! Shift that big motor about 6500 and it'll do great. And with over 5" stroke I don't think you'd want to rev any harder just for longevity reasons. That motor is going to turn the car anything but loose!

[@Kosmonooit]

Nice ... new tool day is always a good day! You should hook up with Fireball Tool for one of his fab tables, he has got it sussed and some nice products. Also features in Aboms new workshop

[@user-bc9sz1dj1g]

Hey Steve, Tim here, theres more there, the ignition is still ur achilles heal....but u got SIGNIFICANT power........i wish the torque curve was better tho....a nice flat one shows volumetric efficiency......when it dies down quickly, we still got an issue, fundamental NA........i know ur a boosted dude, a bit more attention, that 800, some odd cube monster, COULD muster a better torque curve......make it more usable, NOT just peak #.......just a thought

[@robertbruno2863]

Cool video, quick question. What is the white light switch for??

[@stevendimmig3257]

By chance did you point timing light the msd crank sensor. If the polarity is backwards it will run like crap at high rpm but ok at low rpm

[@DaleTerry]

That 115 lobe separation must make great cylinder pressure. Low lift air.

[@tinycarnahan1707]

Um ok holy sh#$. I been whiching all steve videos and some others. On set ups and tuning. And it just now scares me. Because I almost kinda understand what they are talking about and understand the conversation. Holy sh#$ I think I am learning something 😢😢😢😮😮😂

[@jasonstormoen]

Them Kelly Green 🟢 Spark Plug Holders, Are You Telling Everyone ND 🏈Go Irish? That was a good tune for pump gas, and a nice burn on the spark plug.

[@jasonm3109]

Does adding the magnet to the cam pulley cause any imbalance issues?

[@dirtydeedzmainecultavator68]

great video👍✌️

[@tfriesen3866]

17:10 Kyle that cam sounds like a baby cam.

[@Trent28888]

It comes down to the coil output current,say if u have a coil that puts out 40KV @ 100ma u wont get much of a arc and it will be ALOT colder than say 40KV @ 1A so what it means is the lower current output ignition has a weak spark which is how the spark gets blown out,creates miss fires,low HP

[@garytull7730]

Hmmm, so one bank of that 843 inch monster is about as big as my 427 street motor.....whoa.....

[@petesmith8000]

Steve - take a look at a Fireball Vice... lol

[@isaacrishel636]

The intake needs more volume the throttle plates are to close to the runners

[@hankclingingsmith8707]

It a street motor

[@finnroen2334]

I have a question. This is a big NA engine, but in runs on 93 octane pump gas and has a 115 LSA camshaft, not usually known for making peak torque numbers. 1253 lb/ft divided by 843 CID is 1.486 lb/ft/CID. Is this not way beyond a suspiciously good result? I mean, "Some say" that that just the top 10% of engine builders manages 1.35 and only the top 1% achieves 1.40.

[@jestablitz3804]

Pure real street racer. Buy that i mean Aussie street lol. That thing be a weapon at the lights ;)

[@RonnieT123]

In any service industry.... you must charge for your time. You had to do something to the engine to change or fix it. If something else breaks along the way, that is not your problem. Charge for it

[@troyadams1076]

Got to be proud of that son 👏

[@Physhi]

Sometimes the engineer learns something new from time to time!

[@thomasward4505]

How would you know when your ignition system needs to be upgraded? Or do you think that MSD system had something wrong with it?

[@ericmillrd6768]

I had similar cam in a 528 Ford

[@miceinoz1181]

I often wonder about the spark efficiency at high RPM related to combustion pressure. Maybe the spark voltage is higher and cleaner with your setup? The low ends look the same in both configurations, but that top end is so much better.

[@gordowg1wg145]

One ot the theories is that a longer spark, or multiple spark CDI systems, is that with a single short spark the combustion starts at the spark and then the burn front progresses from that point as it's carried through the turbulent fuel/air mix, which may not be homogenised (the same everywhere), so some parts burn better and faster than others that don't quite have the right mix yet. With a longer spark, the fuel is getting ignited for longer at that point, and so the flame front is "elongated" (stretched out) and this burns the fuel faster and, as it's carried around inside the cylinder, finds more of the unburned fuel and oxygen to burn that too. One of the things that has been pretty universally reported is that less ignition timing is required. Oh, the biggest improvements are reported on BIG engines, that usually need more time to burn the fuel, and engines that have poor cylinder head designs for turbulence, like Hemi's and other open chamber heads - or both! With these, it's believed there can be times when a very poor mixture may be present around the spark, and this can drastically slow, even prevent, ignition from occuring. That poor ignition characteristic is why Chrysler developed the twin-plug heads for drag racing, and that are now found on their street engines, elbeit more for emissions with the latter..

[@michaeltrue1143]

Look at fireball tools for a Welding table!

[@randyweaver3576]

Steve so you are telling us the smart coil are better then a msd box . You son did a great job with that. I looked to build a blower motor .

[@flinch622]

Odd... its like the msd box just lost its advance or something. Noise [like a lost filter capacitor]? What do they revert to on apparent trigger loss?

[@user-on6vv2qn2d]

That’s a cool engine stand

[@letsgo8941]

Nothing against a multi coil system but I believe something was wrong with the MSD box.

[@MrR6guy]

agreed!

[@Ron_Masterjohn]

Typical and why I’m not to excited about using MSD

[@dennisboyce3164]

Look at them small ass runners and plenum… that’s why the power and dropping off so fast..

[@davidreed6070]

Good video Kile.

[@K-Effect]

Awesome engine. I know it’s not designed for mileage, but driving it conservatively around town and on the freeway I wonder what kind of mileage it would get with an overdrive? 5-7 mpg?

[@jaydunbar7538]

On drag week pulling the trailers loaded with gear it’s 12-13 if I’m recalling correctly.