$200 Keycaps Vs Cheap Keycaps - Why

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JDTechGear

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@soondubu.
@soondubu. 4 жыл бұрын
"It seems almost impossible to spend this much money on pieces of plastic" ...lego sets...
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 4 жыл бұрын
...Anime figurines.
@tobubiify
@tobubiify 4 жыл бұрын
@@CaveyMoth or just figurines in general, they cost like 1000$+
@Chester200100
@Chester200100 3 жыл бұрын
Gunpla but the engineering is amazing so i shill. Maybe someday i will afford an PG set.
@enriquemunoz6415
@enriquemunoz6415 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chester200100 slowly staring at pgu rx-78-2 that I wanna buy
@Chester200100
@Chester200100 3 жыл бұрын
@@enriquemunoz6415 Cries in not having 300 usd to spare
@janalphabet
@janalphabet 4 жыл бұрын
i dont use keycaps im typing on the switches
@jimrossabrena7955
@jimrossabrena7955 4 жыл бұрын
😭 Nice
@nathanl7221
@nathanl7221 4 жыл бұрын
bruh same lmao i actually dont use the keycaps
@thallium54
@thallium54 4 жыл бұрын
brutal
@mclaren10k
@mclaren10k 4 жыл бұрын
what a legend
@NotGoodAtYoutube
@NotGoodAtYoutube 4 жыл бұрын
Janalphabet Lol you use switches, you fucking noob, I activate it with a switch puller going in the pcb Edit: just in case, it’s a joke please don’t get mad
@Glarses
@Glarses 4 жыл бұрын
this is a brilliant video
@nibbsta5019
@nibbsta5019 4 жыл бұрын
you make brilliant videos
@RealOxygentv
@RealOxygentv 4 жыл бұрын
You actually do WATCH EVERY video of keyboards xD , your skit wasnt lying damn .
@Glarses
@Glarses 4 жыл бұрын
@@RealOxygentv fr, I'm obsessed atm
@Decenity
@Decenity 4 жыл бұрын
@@Glarses and i watched all your videos
@cruf9376
@cruf9376 4 жыл бұрын
lmao you’ve got me into custom keyboards i’m on my way to making my own now lmao tysm for making me spend unholy amounts of money on asthetic utensils
@thereckless2205
@thereckless2205 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody get this man a pointer so he stops marking things with his nice pen
@HentaiNat
@HentaiNat 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe just suck out the ink
@kylemckell
@kylemckell 4 жыл бұрын
@@HentaiNat slurp
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was writing on the keycap to demonstrate something.
@75yomu
@75yomu 3 жыл бұрын
It looked like just a normal pen you get for $1
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
Custom legends
@qorkado5007
@qorkado5007 4 жыл бұрын
As a person who swapped out pudding keycaps for matrix keycaps, I was wondering why my keyboard sounded so different. Thank you for this video.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Matrix caps are much better than the Pudding ones.
@mr6291
@mr6291 4 жыл бұрын
Just a heads-up but if you like the look of pudding but enjoy thicker, higher quality keycaps... The new Ducky pudding caps are pretty great. Got some for my son and they were better quality and thickness than standard pudding caps found elsewhere. PBT doubleshot.
@randyrocha5846
@randyrocha5846 2 жыл бұрын
Got purple pudding Matrix keycaps not to long ago! Really enjoy them though I cant tell the difference much from those and some Amazon Green ones I got for half the price.
@andrewy2830
@andrewy2830 4 жыл бұрын
"can cost as much as some cpus or GPUs" it's alright i'll just use integrated graphics
@HardyMirandaHD
@HardyMirandaHD 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@jakobdingsbums5661
@jakobdingsbums5661 3 жыл бұрын
Allways if I can get good looking keycaps with GMK on the box! Why would I want a good computer anyways. It more reasonable to buy 200 $ pieces of plastic.
@MitchellJBridges
@MitchellJBridges 11 ай бұрын
I have a weak PC cause that's all I need.
@benjimc1
@benjimc1 3 жыл бұрын
Working in the injection moulding industry. I can confirm the main thing you're paying for is limited availability/limited runs. Abs vs pbt and even manufacturing quality to an extent is not the biggest price differential. That will be a few pence/cents per key cap at most. But limited runs can be the biggest difference. When you divide tooling costs and press time into each part, a 50k single shot tool or 100k double shot tool set (rough estimates) with colour variations with setup costs and small run times etc is where the money adds up for the manufacturer ROI.
@nickglover
@nickglover 3 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is that they are intentionally making them available for limited times so that they can charge more rather than keeping them around so that they can charge less. That is, artificially inflating demand and price at the same time so that they can justify the absurd prices. Hmmm.
@benjimc1
@benjimc1 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickglover yes and no. The manufacturer will estimate demand and base their runs on this. At the end of the day you have a cost of investment, so if you can't invest for 100k sets but can only afford 1k sets then so be it.
@nickglover
@nickglover 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose that also doesn't really explain why sets that are normally stocked, like basically every MT3 set on Drop, are so expensive. Those should have the better ROI, and yet...
@benjimc1
@benjimc1 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickglover again you can look at it from a pure material and process aspect and these sets should cost no more than about £10. You put a price on your brand though separately based on what you think of your engineering/design input and what that is worth. When you talk Automotive (segment I work in) , you are not looking at 100k more car from an audi Q5 to a range rover vogue. But people pay that for the perceived quality/luxury of the range rover.
@nickglover
@nickglover 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that's really what I'm saying. People want to justify the prices, but really it's just that they can get away with charging that. If we all stopped buying, they'd probably lower prices. But it's a weird inflated market we've all accepted, so it continues.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
Link and information to purchasing my custom deskmat now available! : bit.ly/2xuVC6Q
@hnogueira90
@hnogueira90 4 жыл бұрын
Hey JDTechGear I needed help with Anne Pro 2 keyboard (60% keyboard): I need a Portuguese keyboard, but doing so I lose the functions on the side of those keycaps. So my point is, where can I got to, to order custom backlit keys, in Portuguese, backlit but have the side functions on them?
@bedzy
@bedzy 4 жыл бұрын
"As it seems almost impossible to spend that much on pieces of plastic". Cries in WH40K
@sanjacobs6261
@sanjacobs6261 4 жыл бұрын
It's so refreshing to see a video that doesn't need music to be engaging. Great work, man!
@Shadowsphere1
@Shadowsphere1 4 жыл бұрын
I got myself a KBD67 which requires a shorter shift key that many mainstream keycap sets don't have, which forced me to dig into the custom keyboard market and many of the popular Chinese keyboard websites like Taihao, Kprepublic and KBDfans. I'm really glad I didn't go for a cheap $40 set of two-tone and instead settled on a GB of EPBT Sushi keys. They are really nice to touch and super high quality. $100 for the set.
@ferigalung
@ferigalung 4 жыл бұрын
i love "actually the entire of this hobby require a lot of patience" just, true
@Bluesourboy
@Bluesourboy 4 жыл бұрын
EPBT is seriously underrated. Also no mention of Signature Plastics SA. Their ABS is on another caliber. Not as crisp as GMK but looks better when it turns shiny.
@xXDarthBagginsXx
@xXDarthBagginsXx 3 жыл бұрын
JTK has become one of my go to brands of middle-ground, Also JTK has been one of the few to pull off a Triple-shot set of caps on a few different runs. Custom boards is a endless rabbit hole to fall into, but imo worth it over-all.
@arkaneforyou
@arkaneforyou 3 жыл бұрын
im poor
@amizan8653
@amizan8653 3 жыл бұрын
Got myself some $30 dye sublimated PBT keycaps. The japanese coral sea. Fucking love them. I'll take the aesthetic of them over the $200 GMKs any day.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
Also what set of keycaps are y'all rockin? All sets welcome here from $0 to expensive ↓↓
@jonathanstone8553
@jonathanstone8553 4 жыл бұрын
GMK Mizu for me.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanstone8553 I wish I picked up Mizu. Perfect blue colors. And also wish I picked up 8008 as well.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
@@VCM5 Those were my first caps that I bought that weren't stock
@choke-
@choke- 4 жыл бұрын
A month late but GMK red samurai and GMK olivia on my two main keebs
@Hoa....
@Hoa.... 4 жыл бұрын
Second-hand Leopold stock keycaps:v
@zekeviews
@zekeviews 3 жыл бұрын
Legend says he's still inking the insides of keycaps till this very day.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
It's how I prototype novelties
@riteu
@riteu 4 жыл бұрын
Damn! I feel like my knowledge of keycaps seriously levelled up in under 10 minutes! Super informative video JD!
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rita! I'm glad it could be followed without getting too technical 😅
@tomsanderson
@tomsanderson 4 жыл бұрын
preach
@samanthakim5035
@samanthakim5035 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@frim3647
@frim3647 4 жыл бұрын
excellent video, straight to the point and toned down comfortably
@velitasali
@velitasali 4 жыл бұрын
I don't use keycaps or switches. I short the key wirings to send an input.
@Jdroo20
@Jdroo20 4 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting on the GMK Vaporwave to arrive, it’s going to be a nice upgrade from the cheap white keycaps that I currently have and help bring my setup together
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
Send pics on discord when they come in
@Jdroo20
@Jdroo20 4 жыл бұрын
​@@jdtechgear I'll be sure to! I'm hoping for them to come within the next two weeks
@Phiz787
@Phiz787 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jdroo20 Did you get your keycaps? :)
@IronCake44
@IronCake44 4 жыл бұрын
This is really fantastically narrated, thanks for putting together this video for us! You did great👍
@MrBlitzpunk
@MrBlitzpunk 3 жыл бұрын
That group buy thing sounds like dlc season pass in gaming
@GUT5S
@GUT5S 4 жыл бұрын
you forgot a major con of GMK sets; they get shiny due to being made of ABS, the font won't wear off since its doubleshot but they'll start to feel pretty nasty and the shine will be visible
@Drinkyoghurt
@Drinkyoghurt 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't buy the price justification. I just got a 15 SA profile PBT set which is doubleshot and they feel amazing. They're super thick and rigid and have a nice colorway. The lighting shines through the letters but really slowly fades on the bottom which would be the only issue, but it's not very noticeable and definitely not worth a price increase of 50 or even 100 euros.
@Jackpotur
@Jackpotur 2 жыл бұрын
have you ever owned a set of GMK Keycaps to compare them to your PBT set?
@DOMadorable
@DOMadorable Жыл бұрын
@@Jackpotur Why do he need to? He's good with his keycaps, that's it.
@theomnivert
@theomnivert 4 жыл бұрын
Bro you're so good at talking I am mesmerized, subbed instantly
@thanhlengoc3805
@thanhlengoc3805 4 жыл бұрын
A long needed explaination, and a nicely executed one. 10/10
@Altirix_
@Altirix_ 4 жыл бұрын
to add to this, getting any custom keycaps for ISO (even UK ISO which has only a few additional caps compared to france or german) is very hard, most of the cheaper but still decent quality caps only support ANSI or partial ISO support, so the £100 range is non-existant there. maybe if someone knows of some sets link them below but ive yet to find any
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is also true. There isn't as much support for ISO layout from what I've seen.
@Altirix_
@Altirix_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdtechgear seems KAT kits may be a good option, they are slowly poping up. maybe more will come out with the GMK wait times
@lanzlagman3511
@lanzlagman3511 4 жыл бұрын
Additional point: Profile. Most boards use OEM but I've seen a few with DSA. I haven't seen boards with SA caps stock, so if they're your thing, it's aftermarket only.
@ronakparikh
@ronakparikh 3 жыл бұрын
If a keycap is just a bunch of plastic, a cpu is just a bunch of sand Gmk sets are like designer handbags, they're exclusive and they appreciate in value as they become more rare. Let's not kid ourselves on quality, sure they are higher quality but given how the whole system is automated it is definitely not worth hundreds based on the product alone, what is worth hundreds is the exclusivity of designs and colors. They are expensive because group buys are so long and in very small batches Here is an example: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N6FFP1C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I have that keycap set and a GMK set, the GMK one cost me $215 and this one cost $18. Aside from the backlighting being uneven like in the video at 4:08 which is just a problem with all pbt, these keycaps are just as thick as the GMK set and have no warping or other issues. For $18 they are just as high quality as the GMK set except for that one issue, but the GMK set is worth it because its worth minimum $300 now because it is exclusive and its in a niche colorway that perfectly matches everything else in my setup. If you just want quality you can't go wrong with keycaps similar to the one I linked, but if you are buying GMK you are buying the exclusivity and uniqueness of the design. I think the video did a good job of making this point clear but I think there was too much of a focus on the quality. The quality is not important up to a certain level, and it makes no sense comparing $200 keycaps with free ones that come with the keyboard to say they have higher quality, its more fair to compare them against $20 - $50 keycaps and the truth is there really isn't much more quality, its all just about exclusivity
@JerelTeh
@JerelTeh 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful summary right there, you've just earned a like, nice vid
@JustifyTheseHeathens
@JustifyTheseHeathens 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't know there were $200 keycaps. Definitely seems like a scam for nerds with more money than things to do. Where can I buy some?
@Koopsstuff
@Koopsstuff 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done so much god damn research about plastics after going through a few sets of caps. U touched on a lot of good points.
@finnk1289
@finnk1289 4 жыл бұрын
I got a blue switch TKL keyboard for free. Thin shinethrough ABS keycaps. When I build a proper board, it'll be with thick PBT DSA profile caps. The uniform profile is better for typing personally and for compatibility. And it looks and sounds more premium at a decent price.
@JustDeceased
@JustDeceased 3 жыл бұрын
What are those keycaps at 6:30 I've been looking for a colorway like that for awhile
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
Those are ePBT Olivetti. They're mostly in stock keycaps
@JustDeceased
@JustDeceased 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you so much
@JustDeceased
@JustDeceased 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdtechgear Are they any good?
@bakadraco6321
@bakadraco6321 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase your custom cable from at 6:09 if you don’t mind me asking?
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
I made that one!
@captainruthless
@captainruthless Ай бұрын
i just learned something news today! trying to customize my wooting keyboard but not sure what to look for. thanks for the video!
@saucyg6371
@saucyg6371 4 жыл бұрын
I contacted the designer of the Apollo set, he said there’s currently no plans on a second run. He’s focused on new designs.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
Nooooo. I need my gray set. Modern Dolch it is
@huntertran5422
@huntertran5422 4 жыл бұрын
Thickness, anti fading, anti warping are pretty much the only things I look out for. After that, its just personal preference of the design
@Hyperion9700
@Hyperion9700 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting GMK Umbras in 2021 and I wanted to fully understand what makes them so good ! Thank you for the video
@ultrasquid579
@ultrasquid579 3 жыл бұрын
I plan on getting some cheapo ones from amazon initially so that i can actually use my first board, but upgrading to GMK as soon as possible.
@dulla8469
@dulla8469 3 жыл бұрын
the hardest thing about buying keycaps, is finding a set you like the legends, colors, thematics, and how it all looks as a whole, i couldnt care less about abs and pbt and stuff like that, but i cant seem to find any keycaps that i like, and i dont know where to look, amazon is limited to maybe 25 keycaps, and banggood the same, and most of those look too flashy and weird
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
Having all the preferences met is definitely tricky. Sometimes it depends on my mood haha
@joshe2420
@joshe2420 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this will help me explain to my friend that a $12 keycap set from aliexpress is worse than a $12 spacebar from matrix
@Crustee0
@Crustee0 4 жыл бұрын
To you its worse, but to him its probably better. Imagine if he just want to change to overall feel of his keyboard, with a full set he can change everything on his keyboard, but with a spacebar? Good luck with that.
@anandamntsy4679
@anandamntsy4679 Жыл бұрын
hey bro, what’s black and red keycaps on this video? 6:19
@Ostreaf
@Ostreaf 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of times he said keycaps...
@OvaltineClassique
@OvaltineClassique 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that PBT spacebar with the lattice on the inside was familiar... the VA68M that it came with might've been hot garbage but they certainly knew what they were doing when they made a nice spacebar.
@Delta-it8ou
@Delta-it8ou 4 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the tai-hao keycaps? They seem pretty high quality.
@phatanhduyle7259
@phatanhduyle7259 4 жыл бұрын
Taihao caps are really thin compared to gmk or even epbt which sound worse than both. The legends on taihao caps are also pretty thin and sometimes. uneven. However, for the price, it is pretty good value. But epbt has been starting to make double shot abs like gmk for very low price as well (around $70) and is a much better option if you save up a little it more.
@jackstezsavage3815
@jackstezsavage3815 4 жыл бұрын
I got the tai hao abs keycaps and I actually prefer it over my Doubleshot PBT Keycaps. They are as light as an abs keycap but they feel like pbt keycaps. I definitely recommend getting Taihao abs keycaps if you can find any. They are Doubleshot abs so they won’t wear out but they will shine over time but for me I don’t really care since the feeling of the keycaps are really pleasant
@jackstezsavage3815
@jackstezsavage3815 4 жыл бұрын
I also got the Taihao abs keycaps only for 30$ + 20$ for shipping
@nu3566
@nu3566 4 жыл бұрын
it looks good, but the quality isn't that high, qc is kinda meh since my taihao caps has some scratches and looks like a nubmark out of the box I recommend you to save some and buy EnjoyABS or just find cheap PBT keycaps instead
@Anderson-yn4or
@Anderson-yn4or 4 жыл бұрын
It’s good for an entry level board but if you get premium customs you would want better ones in the future
@technostarsmr.j4193
@technostarsmr.j4193 4 жыл бұрын
Wait... I just watched a video about key caps... What has this lock down done to me
@kazuhira_miller
@kazuhira_miller 4 жыл бұрын
There's a big community for keyboard enthusiasts
@jfmg64
@jfmg64 4 жыл бұрын
You should look for artisan keycaps, they're very expensive but beautiful. Usually people use them on the ESC key.
@XalphYT
@XalphYT 4 жыл бұрын
You will be horrified to learn that most of us have been enjoying custom keycaps long before pandemic lockdowns ever happened
@KirballsKeys
@KirballsKeys 4 жыл бұрын
It’s made you a man of culture.
@fair-chance
@fair-chance 4 жыл бұрын
I'd just rather by clones over paying resellers twice the original price. Also, most of the clones are PBT, which is great - ABS shine may not be a defect but I hate it.
@nikolaslialios479
@nikolaslialios479 3 жыл бұрын
I joined my first GMK group buy last week and am now waiting on my set of GMK Nightshade!
@alex99x99x
@alex99x99x 3 жыл бұрын
dont worry, theyll be waiting for you next year.
@nikolaslialios479
@nikolaslialios479 3 жыл бұрын
@@alex99x99x oh ik, I bought it for my Christmas/New Years gift 😂
@BigBoyz33
@BigBoyz33 3 жыл бұрын
Very well put and a educational video, thanks !
@coma-fx
@coma-fx 4 жыл бұрын
do not stone me pls. i bought a 2 tone abs set (navy/pink) from taihao's website for like $30 w/ shipping! (i paid in TWD) and i love them! The caps don't feel slick at all, the colors and legends are very clean and the manufacturing quality is a 100x better than expected!
@coma-fx
@coma-fx 4 жыл бұрын
and no they don't feel any thinner then the double shot pbt set that i bought for 80$ a few months ago
@lilv728
@lilv728 3 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful thanks!
@oliverbryant1
@oliverbryant1 4 жыл бұрын
“It seems impossible to spend this much on plastic” *Looks at LEGO collection*
@Slada1
@Slada1 3 жыл бұрын
And lego is mass produced!
@rks5457
@rks5457 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slada1 Lego also has good quality control and a long history of it. These low volume keycap, switch and keyboard companies do not. You'd think these supposedly "one off" group buy keycaps and switches would be of the highest quality but they rarely if ever are completely without defects. Gmk plays it safe by barely innovating.
@oscarshinkfield4105
@oscarshinkfield4105 4 жыл бұрын
you deserve so many more subscribers with this quality of videos
@ElliotKwan
@ElliotKwan 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a $200 keycap set. Hope I remember in a year.
@christophersmith8028
@christophersmith8028 3 жыл бұрын
Set yourself a few notifications for the 8, 9, and the 10th month mark from now to help you remember, and get you excited to get them. What set did you end up joining in on? Cheers!
@ElliotKwan
@ElliotKwan 3 жыл бұрын
@@christophersmith8028 oo. Did not know that. I joined the GMK Monarchs. Rough ly $200 cad with shipping
@christophersmith8028
@christophersmith8028 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElliotKwan that’s a rad set. Hope you enjoy them when they come in. Cheers!
@Ken-zg3ze
@Ken-zg3ze 2 жыл бұрын
Whoaaa. It is you! You're the guy that did the Batman Parody mouse review.
@aiwa501
@aiwa501 4 жыл бұрын
@JDTechGear Great video. Can you please tell me what the keycaps are at 6:30.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
ePBT Olevetti I think
@zywpx1572
@zywpx1572 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you didn’t method Signature Plastic, they are famous of SA profile.
@yubinator7455
@yubinator7455 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I hate on my stock ABS keycaps is it is a finger grease magnet. I had to clean it one a week or twice a month.
@coocluckclanmusic
@coocluckclanmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thats when you reached the shininess the lubey keycap so yummy i want to lick
@iunlisted1176
@iunlisted1176 4 жыл бұрын
I love how monotone the whole videos was
@trrr4377
@trrr4377 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I'm just here to deliver information
@KwCpRoDiiGy
@KwCpRoDiiGy Жыл бұрын
It's my favotire. I'd rather not adjust my volume if he gets too quiet or too loud.
@KelvinTan133
@KelvinTan133 4 жыл бұрын
0:45 What are those? Prolly one of the prettiest minimal colour combination of a Keyboard Cable I've ever seen.. by SummitCables? Zap? Those black aviators + the blue
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
I made that cable from parts bought off of Zap, came out way better than I thought it would!
@KelvinTan133
@KelvinTan133 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdtechgear You have pics or video featuring builds with that cable? Can't seem to notice any on your KZbin channel
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
@@KelvinTan133 sorry I never saw this man, I might try and make a video of it if you like or a build stream of sorts
@KelvinTan133
@KelvinTan133 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdtechgear Yo man. That'd be sick. More and more keyboard enthusiasts are booming up everywhere. Should grab the opportunity sir. Would never know your view count shoots up like wild.
@adamrustly7558
@adamrustly7558 4 жыл бұрын
Dsa magic girl is the most colorful, prettiest keycaps ive seen. Wish they were 2mm thick though
@akira8-customkeyboards17
@akira8-customkeyboards17 4 жыл бұрын
On ali express you can find G-MKY keycaps and Maxkey/Domikey keycaps, same quality for half of the price and always in stock.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
Actually have been researching this for the last couple of months. I'll say the price is better but the quality depends on the brand you buy off of Ali. MaxKey, Domikey, ePBT, and a couple others are actually pretty solid. Don't fall for OneCao though
@matheaumichalak7537
@matheaumichalak7537 5 ай бұрын
Gonna need the link to that Metropolis keycap set.
@megadeth8592
@megadeth8592 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video 👌 do you have any plans on covering pom keycaps in the future?
@christofferredfielfd1758
@christofferredfielfd1758 Жыл бұрын
Domikey and tai hao are both good. Some interesting bow Jian coming I have a good feeling
@AshF1
@AshF1 4 жыл бұрын
Great info and excellent video :)
@TheFeriner
@TheFeriner 4 жыл бұрын
So do all these pros actually increase the price to manufacture the key caps enough to justify these > $150 price tags? Or is a big chunk of it the “premium” and “limited edition” feel
@Jackomo2011
@Jackomo2011 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of good information, but i would have wished for a form of comparison table at the end to better decide what to get. Cannot wait for my first set to arrive =)
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
I feel ya, there's a lot of brands out there I've yet to see in person that I feel would be necessary to put together a chart for pure comparison. Honestly after a certain price range it comes down to preference
@Praxtra_
@Praxtra_ 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love a comparison video of the GMK Laser and Akko Neon keycap sets.. I love the look of the laser, but the Akko looks solid for the price. Tons of additional options and robust colors
@mechros4460
@mechros4460 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely, some would go far as to say that the Akko has better quality.
@Praxtra_
@Praxtra_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@mechros4460 I definitely wouldn’t go that far, I had warping on a spacebar and a bunch of caps were missing chunks. It was a nice keycap set but definitely had its flaws
@mechros4460
@mechros4460 3 жыл бұрын
@@Praxtra_ seems like the quality is pretty inconsistent. Some people have great sets and some people have a lot of warping issues. Also the font lettering is inconsistent on some of the keycaps (modifiers, enter).
@jammies701
@jammies701 4 ай бұрын
Nice vid mate
@DethMetlZomb
@DethMetlZomb 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely informative. Thank you.
@thestreamreader
@thestreamreader 4 жыл бұрын
What is a good keycap set at around $50 or less range? Good video idea!! Key cap sets for every budget range with a review of what might be best for each budget range $25 or less on up.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 4 жыл бұрын
What about the sounds that certain keycaps make when typing? Are there materials of keycaps or differing shapes and thicknesses that sound different when typing?
@omarsheriff51
@omarsheriff51 Жыл бұрын
Just "$200 keycaps" sounds absurd
@muCephei_
@muCephei_ 3 жыл бұрын
Keycaps are not like watches in which replicas are hard to make. You can find replicas (although limited selection) of certain colorways that are doubleshot pbt 1.5mm thick at half the price or even less, since I'm counting the shipping cost as well. The reasons mentioned in this video ARE reasons yes. The same reason why designer clothes cost x100 more than they cost to make. I don't think GMK keycaps are that insane, but I'm sure they don't have to charge as much as they do. They just CAN.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. These keycaps are usually one-offs. The molds for the legends have to be made and the colors have to be matched with each new set. An exclusive design and/or color combo is incredible expensive to do in small numbers from a manufacturer. Small numbers meaning orders less than 1mil-500k or so. The volume of production is so low that these keycaps would be virtually impossible to get for any price without a group buy.
@muCephei_
@muCephei_ 3 жыл бұрын
​@@jdtechgear I did alot more reading on how doubleshot keycaps are made and I see that alot of QC and a complicated process is involved. Also the colouring of the plastic is done separately. But the above would apply to less expensive doubleshot keycaps that are non GMK. So I'm guessing it has more to do with producing the new colorways, since they have to start from scratch. As for molds, novelties aside, the base kits are always the same legending with japanese characters on some, which molds are also available. So it doesn't need to have a mold made from scratch like novelties which makes sense for it to be expensive. So, I'm guessing the difference between $140 GMK set and $70 aliexpress set is simply a matter of having to create a new color combination of plastics. I'll have to look into whether making different colored plastic from scratch would justify difference in cost. Although I was also assuming that labor is more expensive in certain parts of the world than others and I think you know what I'm alluding to. But I forgot one more factor. The person who designed the set deserves to benefit from it. So I guess in some ways I can understand the difference.
@ShadowCooper77
@ShadowCooper77 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still quite confused - i get the limited availability part, but for the other parts how is it possible to be so much more expensive? it's just thicker and colored plastic that is manufactured with more precision, but its still small pieces of plastic? Like it doesnt make sense that it costs the same as a decent cpu. Or do you think that the limited availability is the main reason for the price? Bc that would make sense for custom keyboards too
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
A multitude of factors. The Novelties/Colors and more are R&D'd for each set. It's a big upfront cost to a kimited group buy.
@cyberion2477
@cyberion2477 4 жыл бұрын
So does high quality, double-shot, mocha espresso, ABS keycaps mean no shining like standard PBT keycaps?
@jenthulhu
@jenthulhu 3 жыл бұрын
The truth is that ABS is not really inferior to PBT. They both have strengths and weaknesses. Otherwise GMK, Signature Plastics, and many others wouldn't be using ABS for their high-end production runs. I get kind of annoyed when people constantly say that ABS is inferior to PBT and that ABS is more likely to shine over time. Any keycap can shine over time. You get what you pay for, generally. That said, to the average user, it probably makes nil difference and they probably don't even notice "shine."
@YanDoroshenko
@YanDoroshenko 4 жыл бұрын
And there I was thinking that waiting 2 weeks for a pair of split keyboard PCBs is a long time.
@thomb.9013
@thomb.9013 3 жыл бұрын
what about pom keycaps, for example the ones made by esc keyboard, what is that compared to abs and pbt?
@mrjuiceee9264
@mrjuiceee9264 3 жыл бұрын
Are Tai hao keycaps any good..i just hopped into the keyboard space
@catoflado4977
@catoflado4977 4 жыл бұрын
I give up. Too expensive, researching about it just makes me mad. The basic keycaps for you are a fortune for me. Not worth it
@GrimYak
@GrimYak 4 жыл бұрын
and to think I bought the RK61 for just $35
@12371eric
@12371eric 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished a GMK Metropolis build, I can say, these keysets are expensive as fuck but it's worth it if you're willing to drop the coin.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
nice dude, I hope you enjoy it!
@leoneljuarez49
@leoneljuarez49 4 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the keycap set that's shown at 6:28 I absolutely love the way they look.
@trashmann1081
@trashmann1081 4 жыл бұрын
some form of 'triumph adler' I think
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
ePBT Olivetti
@piggy1198
@piggy1198 4 жыл бұрын
what was the cap set at 6:38?
@minior9020
@minior9020 2 жыл бұрын
what set is that at 5:15 ? if anyone still sees this :)
@azridagan2983
@azridagan2983 3 күн бұрын
Black lotus?
@aidankk
@aidankk 4 жыл бұрын
0:59 What website is that?
@HoloScope
@HoloScope 4 жыл бұрын
I have a keyboard with a 5 pin jst connector internally with a usb output to plug into PC, is there anyway i can convert this 5 pin jst connector into a usb c so i can have a detachable cable or like be able to connect those cool detachable cables like you have
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't done it myself personally. I believe there might be a solution on the internet as I would like to do the same thing to a couple of keyboards I have already and give them a detachable cable. That's why I'm always searching for a Type-C detachable keyboard. It is very important for any keyboard I buy.
@HoloScope
@HoloScope 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdtechgear thanks for the reply, very scarce info on the interwebs about it
@zlimothyvrother
@zlimothyvrother 4 жыл бұрын
Probably late but you can check Pexon PCs, a small company based in the UK for those. Just choose the filco termination that the site offers during customization of whatever type of cable you choose to buy. You can find a video of how this works by searching "Pexon cable filco" on youtube.
@shinespark9
@shinespark9 4 жыл бұрын
Great content. Subscribed!
@jimmymonz
@jimmymonz 4 жыл бұрын
I think a typing sound test of comparison would complement your explanation better.
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
There isn't a notable difference in sound besides some acute differences. Sounds is mainly affected by case, sound treatment, switches, stabilizers, and plate material.
@StarbucksBob
@StarbucksBob 4 жыл бұрын
so doubleshot ABS won't shine overtime, but do they match PBT on that end?
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know any type of ABS will shine over time
@brunomarcos5001
@brunomarcos5001 2 жыл бұрын
man I been lookin for some ISO-portuguese keycaps layout since forever
@SNDVeteran
@SNDVeteran 4 жыл бұрын
Wow i didn't know the differences between different types of keycaps from manufacturers. I just bought a keyboard that was a collaboration with wasd keyboard and jtk ketcaps and it came out to 250. I bought it because i knew doubleshot pbt keycaps are rare to come by and supposedly last forever but now there are different manufacturers that offer doubleshot keycaps. My question is how good is jtk opposed to gmk? Thanks in advance
@jdtechgear
@jdtechgear 4 жыл бұрын
JTK from what I hear is pretty good quality, I haven't used them myself, so I can't speak on it's behalf but the general consensus is good for the money!
@desmondwhy8265
@desmondwhy8265 4 жыл бұрын
planning to swap my logitech g610 orion keycap. im just wondering does every keycap fit? especially spacebar
@SuperSohaizai
@SuperSohaizai 4 жыл бұрын
First check whether your keyboard supports cherry MX stem since most keycaps uses that. Next check how many spots it supports but for most keyboard it is the same. Then also check the space-bar length. They uses u, as in unit, to check a length of a keycap. 1u is equal to 1 normal alphabet key. In case you are worried, just get a packet that has multiple variation especially the enter key
@aeriacross770
@aeriacross770 Жыл бұрын
Really happy with my aesthetic keycaps from aliexpress and their sound. So all good. It's the limited buy that pushes that price. I can never justify to myself these luxury marketing premiums.
@bopuc
@bopuc 3 жыл бұрын
*leans into the microphone* "actually this whole entire hobby requires a lot of patience…" 😅
@gaydubbbz8148
@gaydubbbz8148 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of keycaps and quality of the color add some bucks yea that s right but what really break the bank is usually availability
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