2000 Honda AP1 S2000 Track Review - Does a Mild Setup Ruin The Experience?

[@apolloandratti7922]

Zygrene and S2000s are like beans and rice for Brazilians. No matter how long they been apart, they always come together with such passion and romance as though they never left each other. The S2000: "I love you pookie, forever!!!!"

[@williambellisIII]

You, me, and so many others will never be able to shake off S2000s. They are part of us for life, and for a damn good reason.

[@augustortiz]

Man is on a quest to drive all the s2000’s

[@Zygrene]

@@augustortiz 100 down, 110000 more to go

[@nocturneastro2539]

Thanks for reviewing my car buddy!

[@GrayFox370]

That urban dictionary of sloppy mcfloppy 🤣😖🤦

[@h.j.victory6103]

Another S2000 😊 Can't blame you

[@taelee347]

I am in the market for an AP2 and I attribute that to watching too many of your videos 😅

[@truthwarrior2149]

This is considered a mild set up? That is an impressive list of suspension mods.

[@battlestorm1428]

At this point I think you should get yourself an s2000 before they’re unattainable 😵‍💫

[@TheBb6prelude]

S2000.... The only low powered car that gives you an extremely frustrating combination of over and understeer all at the same time. If you can minimize both.. it will absolutely destroy any Miata with similar mods, similar tires.

[@DC5Brandon]

With the prices of used S2000's being what they are, what about comparing that to a used modified RSX Type-S? I curious how close you can get to the "fun" of a S2000 for less money. Although the RSX is FWD, it's K20A2 can be tuned to rev as high as the S2000, but I'm really curious how close each Honda 6-speed shifter feels to each other.

[@sbfd3s]

Still looks like it has some understeer at corner entry causing you to use more steering lock. Probably should run a square tire setup to make it more balanced. Since he is only on 17x9s a 245 square setup will likely feel better than 255 square

[@nocturneastro2539]

I decided against the square setup because I didn't want to do any fender work. When I'm fast enough to warrant a BBK, I'll consider a square setup because I'd have to do fender work to fit wider wheels up front.

[@TforTouge]

I was actually intrigued by those SakeBomb Garage Long Stroke coil overs and curious how they compared to stock Ohlins DFVs! Thoughts? It also looks like it handled a lot better than the previous iteration.

[@nocturneastro2539]

I don't have the previous version as a baseline to compare against, but I can tell you that these are worlds better than the KW V3 I had on the track before. These are 14k/12k.

[@nocturneastro2539]

I think these are a great option for a relatively inexpensive set of track oriented coilovers without spending the big boys money (JRZ, MCS, Ohlins TTX, and etc).

[@TforTouge]

@@nocturneastro2539 Makes sense. I'm curious how they compare to the SakeBomb longstroke Ohlins since that's what they take after, or just the regular DFVs since the price point is pretty similar. What other coil overs did you consider before buying these?

[@nocturneastro2539]

@TforTouge I didn't consider other coilovers. I was fine with the KW V3 and was content on becoming a better driver with them. However, with the price of those FXp, and they could be valved for high spring rates, and I could probably sell the KW V3 and pay for them (which almost came out to be a free trade), I gambled and just went with them. And I would do it again.

[@amill1563]

Is oil with Zinc added beneficial for track use?

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

Looks like it needs a bit more negative camber in the front

[@nocturneastro2539]

I believe I do as well. For some reason, my fronts are maxed out at around -1.7 camber. I do have a set of offset bushings that I will be throwing on when I do my next alignment

[@s_phew_k]

@@nocturneastro2539 I had the same issue and my driver side knuckle was slightly bent causing camber to be maxed out at -1.8

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

@@nocturneastro2539 Do you have adjustable control arms? Most people I’ve met with s2000 say you get the most adjustment with them

[@nocturneastro2539]

@@s_phew_k just checked my alignment sheet. I'm maxed out at -1.4, haha 😄

[@nocturneastro2539]

@@UnrelatedNonsense no, stock suspension and I prefer OEM arms. I do have a set of offset bushings I will be throwing on the next alignment date.

[@brandonnhol]

I looked up sloppy mcfloppy.....goddamnit

[@zpzp96]

OMG what a coincidence I am the first commenter :D

[@reggienotorious6824]

Ap1 the only way to drive is at the limit the milisecend you lift she unsettles

[@mariom9694]

Looks like you're in a booster seat 😂

[@nocturneastro2539]

Hahaha yeah I told him these Mugen sit a little higher with the recaro rails.

[@jwrx7tt01]

What's going on with the high steering centering force?

[@nocturneastro2539]

I have no idea to be honest. I've never driven another S2000 aside my own. Zygrene and I have some theory. (1) AP1 being AP1 (2) My current staggered setup of 225 tire width up front being narrow. (3) maybe caster adjustment on the next alignment?

[@tsehorse]

I was looking for videos of sloppy mcfloppy and somehow it lead me here

[@Flowermouth]

6:29

[@gibsonisthename]

Ain’t no Miata tho

[@MastRk]

You are definitely right about that

[@TheBb6prelude]

That's the best part

[@z32luvr]

Thank god for that. It’s so much better than a Miata.