How to remove the cylinder head ECT sensor without removing the intake manifold. OBD II code was P0118. I was not able to film it after the repair, but the gauge operated normally after the sensor was replaced.
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@roaldsimonson16725 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video!!! It emboldened me to give it a try. When I brought my 2002 325xi Wagon into the BMW dealership for that airbag recall that happened I paid them to run a diagnostic while they were at it. I also had had an OBDII P0118 scan code as well. BMW confirmed that ECT sensor was faulty and needed replacement. They quoted me a 4.9 hour job (removing manifold and all that) costing $835! So I searched forums and videos far and wide for another way and eventually I came across your video here. I've just completed the job! Respectfully I have some suggestions for future viewers. Two of the most time consuming and tricky steps of this task as you've demonstrated is clearing space by removing that air intake tube and that master cylinder shield thing. This doesn't actually need to be done. I didn't need that space created by doing so at all (nor was it necessary to remove the air box). The important thing is to remove all that air filter cowling assembly as you show - in particular that last plate covering the air intake and wiper transmission. That's all the working space you need. My much more experienced and equipped home hobbyist mechanic friend and I then went in and felt around and found the ECT sensor - eureka! We assembled your socket/joint/extension system but before going at it I said, You know, I wonder if that specialty offset socket thingy I bought for when we replaced my oxygen sensors - Oxygen Sensor Removal Tool, 22mm, 3/8 in. drive - I wonder if that would fit? It fit perfectly. All you need from there is a basically a straight foot-long extension and you can snap it loose in a second. (In addition I had bought an inexpensive wifi smartphone endoscope in anticipation of this job so that we could go in there and look around and see what was what and what we were doing. This was really fun and gave us security but it wasn't necessary.) All in all this is a 20 minute job. In the end I am really mystified by the BMW dealer quote. Maybe they have a company policy that nothing can be completed by "feel" and that everything requires actual eyes to be laid on the job. I dunno.
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
The BMW dealer would have quoted a standard "book time" for the job, but I would bet the tech would have used this method and made a bunch of money off of you. Good to hear it helped you. Some of the parts I took off were already off as part of a collision repair.
@FELIPE8226M3 жыл бұрын
The stealerships are crooks of course
@alperenerol18523 жыл бұрын
You're a legend. Used the longest extension I had with 7/8 and it worked! Guess I'm not paying 300 bucks for the mechanic.
@fabzahd Жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation. As a result, I was able to get the sensor changed within 45mins as opposed to the 4 & a half hours it took me to remove the intake manifold a couple of years back.
@larryklassen55206 жыл бұрын
Oh another thing is I never drained the coolant and didn’t lose a drop. Not sure if you had drained the coolant or mentioned that it wasn’t necessary. I wouldn’t have thought replacing that sensor was possible without removing the intake without your video. Thanks!!
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
I had already drained the coolant to replace the radiator from a collision, but you could probably do this job without draining it. You may lose a little, but probably not a lot.
@winthedaymusic6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video! Saved me hours! I wanted to share my experience on my BMW 2000 323i... I'm a small guy so... I was able to access the thermostat by only having to remove the cabin filter/tray and the firewall plate behind it. The only other thing I had to do was unbolt and lift the fuel rail because there were two down pipes coming from the fuel rail that were in my way... Don't remove the injectors from the rail, just remove the four bolts holding it down and lift straight up with a gentle rocking motion back and fourth. When you re-insert the injectors back put a tiny amount of lithium grease on the o-rings to help the seat correctly. Took me around 20-30 min..
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
winthedaymusic you're welcome
@alfrednavarro23913 жыл бұрын
Sam, what works better is an open 12 point crow socket. This way you don’t have to worry about depth. I had the sensor off and replaced in 20 minutes.
@samg55433 жыл бұрын
Good job. I don't own any crow's foot sockets
@larryklassen55206 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. I used a 22mm stubby box end wrench which worked perfectly also.
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
Good to hear.
@stevenoxendine4659Ай бұрын
this really work but we use an 22mm oxygen sensor besides regular 7/8 socket had it done in 25 minutes, and this fix my car thanks for your video it same time besides taking all that manifold off. CAADOX trucking thanks
@southofheaven1234 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making a video about the difficult to tackle coolant sensor- anybody could do the lower radiator hose one without a video but this one takes a little more headscratching!
@Silvershadow19785 ай бұрын
Sam G is a genius . This is one of the best DIY to save time for the BMW 330ci projects. Thank you Kindly for the video. Thanks for sharing
@jonesvaughn89465 ай бұрын
Hey I have a question because I have a 2000 528i and I was wondering does the engine sensor have a connector that has to be plugged into it after you put it in and also is it the same type of sensor as the engine coolant sensor that's below the coolant reservoir?
@ramongambino19777 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video . I've taken the manifold off 3 times previously to replace hoses , starter manifold gasket . I dreaded taken it off again . just replaced the sensor ! great detailed video !!
helped me fix my problem. i didn't realize that connector on the end of that wiring harness was for the engine coolant temp. sensor but it makes sense 'cause my car started overheating after the ccv replacement and it wasn't before. thanks a mil! i was procrastinating fixing it because it's so hard to find info. sometimes but you got me right to the answer almost immediately!
@shawnheather323i7 жыл бұрын
This worked for me! Thank you for helping me avoid taking the manifold off! I ended up using a crows foot o2 sensor removed to take the original 22mm off. Then I used a crows foot 19mm to put the new one on
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped you out. thanks for watching.
@franciscomorillamoreno524011 ай бұрын
Que falla te saca con ese sensor ..nose se si con ese sensor molo no te arrancaban
@lascellesjohnson27875 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. This has saved me a ton of time and money. I’m located in the UK and have a 2001 BMW 330i e46. I had the P0118 fault code. The symptom in my case was as soon as I started the car from cold the temperature gauge would shoot up to the red and stayed there for most on the time. Sometimes it would read normal and on other occasions would read cold when the engine was hot, this would result in a higher than normal engine idle speed and difficulty restarting the engine when hot. Replacing the Temperature Sensor fixed my problem.
@isrealperez90694 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video it help me out and yes it was a lot easier to remove I used a 02 sensor adapter to remove the sensor have a bless live thanks
@MrBadbrad84 Жыл бұрын
Saved me a bunch of time. Appreciate it!
@failuremachine24142 жыл бұрын
Sam thanks for the great video. I would like to supplement your fine work. You can do this even easier by eliminating the swivel attachment and going right under the manifold. It is a straight shot at the ECT sensor. (I used wobble extensions) Hope this helps.
@Spaginni3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried it yet, but thank you. I’m not into taking the intake out to replace a stupid sensor I knew to change when I saw it.
@kyleenriquez5605 Жыл бұрын
I have this exact sensor and dammit god bless a good ol boy to find a better way.
@hindflight Жыл бұрын
Sam G you are awesome sir!! This is a huge time saver!
@hueyp6147 ай бұрын
You the man bro I'm about to do mine. A true life saver🎉
@rontobisch97653 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge, doing this job without taking all that other stuff off, legend mate, cheers.
@goldbond88846 жыл бұрын
Hey this video was a life saver! Thanks for posting it. I had already removed the intake manifold to replace the heater intake pipe and a water pipe. Apparently when I reassembled everything I neglected to plug the engine temp sensor back in and when I turned the ignition on the temp gauge pinged to red immediately and the obc read -128. I was dreading having to take the intake manifold back off, but after stumbling upon your video (spend the better part of two days combing over bmw forums for any tips) I didn't have to. Saved me probably 4 hours of labor.
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
Gold Bond you're welcome. Glad it's helping people.
@Mysticlyonenterprise Жыл бұрын
Thanks again buddy.doing this job again.I for the sizes you used on the extensions n sockets.👌🏾👍🏽
@mars73578 ай бұрын
Yo you saved me so much time
@MartyHaloMeyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video, car has been running a bit cool, I had replaced the other sensor, had this one on the shelf waiting to do it when I had time to remove the intake. Now I don't have to wait!
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
glad it helped.
@jesusdiazdeleon11215 жыл бұрын
MADE MY JOB SO MUCH EASIER! Thank you!
@regibson235 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I was doing a cooling system overhaul so picked up this sensor on a whim. Seeing how big a pain it is I think I'll pass. But great to know you don't have to pull the manifold.
@davem81652 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, HUGE time saver!
@willyoriley775 Жыл бұрын
A crow's foot works a lot easier. Great video!
@samg5543 Жыл бұрын
If you have one
@tiller12053 жыл бұрын
You are the best honestly bro wow thanks so much
@jessebernard34347 жыл бұрын
Gr8 video. Well explained. Thanx. If this sensor is bad can it send the car into limp mood?
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
Jesse Bernard I believe this sensor has one pin for the gauge and a separate pin for the PCM. if the pcm part of it goes bad, it's possible it would go into open loop (sometimes referred to as limp). you would need a scan tool to read loop status while it's running.
@tristanwalton81982 жыл бұрын
My 01 x5 4.4 went into limp mode. Gauge said it overheated while driving from my corner store. Then said trans fail safe and cut off. Now it won't crank at all. And the temperature gauge goes straight to red while trying to start it. Nothing. Can you please give me some sort of insight on to what you think? Could that sensor prevent it from cranking? Good battery, connection, starter, fuel pump, fuses, even unhooked the abs. I'm so confused. Please help.
@locca67 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam G for the video. I had the same socket setup and it actually worked!!!
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
Quentin Jenkins you're welcome. i knew it would help someone.
@jessebernard34347 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Did appreciate yr kind and fast response. Reason for asking is I have an 02 325i BMW and the maf sensor went bad.I drove it around for a while with the maf unplugged.Now I put in a new maf and even if it is plugged or unplug the car stays idling as normal. It has no jerking, misfires, I mean I can go as much as 60 mph. But I don't know the issues with the maf sensor. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanx
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
Jesse Bernard if you know the maf was bad, then you should have no issues now. do you have any codes now?
@jessebernard34347 жыл бұрын
Yes there are some codes.Probably Monday or TuesdayI will send it in to the shop. I will definitely let you know the codes sir. Thanx again.
@iListRealEstate7 жыл бұрын
I heard a rumor this was possible without removing the manifold but now I know for sure. Thanks man! Was your temp gauge acting weird at all or was your only symptom the P0118?
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
Cody Kownacki you're welcome.
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
Cody Kownacki gauge was dropping out to cold when the car heated up. this was not my car. it was a customer's. that's the only symptom i could reproduce.
@rsrdan7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This worked perfect. .....great video
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Glad it helped you.
@jongkeunlee3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thanks for sharing. You think is it possible to replace a starter w/o removing the intake?
@samg55433 жыл бұрын
Don't know for sure. I do mostly body work.
@jongkeunlee3 жыл бұрын
@@samg5543 thanks
@jonesvaughn89465 ай бұрын
I have a question when you take that stuff off from the back are you able to then see the sensor or even feel the sensor with your hand so you're not blindly trying to put the tool back there to take it off?
@samg55435 ай бұрын
I don't think you can see it without a mirror but you can feel it if I remember correctly
@jonesvaughn89465 ай бұрын
@@samg5543 thanks for the reply. Also do you have an estimate on how long it took you from start to finish including taking plastic parts off the engine to get access to it
@jonesvaughn89465 ай бұрын
@@samg5543 and is the sensor the same sensor that's below the coolant reservoir and does it connect to anything like the sensor under the coolant reservoir does
@robchapman11627 жыл бұрын
awesome, thanks I've spent day's try to locate this sensor! lol sucks I have to take apart half the car again! I had to change the expansion tank an fan! An no heat!! is this my problem? I have had similar heat lose issue's with my old chevy! An this was the problem! any input or answers? thanks for your time!
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
This sensor should not affect your heater in the car, unless the car has auto heat control that is tied to the engine temp somehow. If you have not heat, the most likely things are low coolant, a bad water pump, or a clogged heater core.
@bluez817 жыл бұрын
Thanks soo much dude for this video!!
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
No problem. Hope it helped.
@Icanhasmycheesburger7 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot for the great video! just a quick question: will the car leak coolant from the hole after you pull/screw out the sensor? I'm gonna try to do this later this week since my gauge shows a constant 128 degree (C), even after a day standing still.
@samg55437 жыл бұрын
It will probably leak a little coolant out if your system is full, but I had the system drained for the collision repair, so nothing came out.
@Icanhasmycheesburger7 жыл бұрын
Sam G all right. I'll just have something to stop most of the coolant handy when I take the sensor out. Thanks for the tip.
@patrickr.sansonetti32374 жыл бұрын
Would this sensor being bad cause my thermostat to not operate properly, causing an overheat situation? The entire cooling system has been replaced, head gasket it fine, system pressure tests fine, but still indicates overheating after about ten minutes. Please advise.
@samg55434 жыл бұрын
If your thermostat is electronically controlled, then it's possible that this sensor reading low could prevent it from opening. If it's a regular mechanical thermostat, then the sensor should have nothing to do with the cooling issue. Make sure the water pump and fans are working
@taylorwest69863 жыл бұрын
Thank you, kindly!
@ThePs3ownsss2 жыл бұрын
How’d you get the crush washer off the block I’m having troubles 😂
@samg55432 жыл бұрын
I don't remember having to do that. Must have come off with the sensor
@jaguar7051 Жыл бұрын
How do you unplug the electrical connector from the sensor?
@samg5543 Жыл бұрын
I think it just pulls off by hand
@wilvandermeulen49306 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!!
@mirandaruiz81124 жыл бұрын
Does a 2001 bmw 325i have this sensor as well ?? or just the one sensor on the right side of the radiator hose
@mirandaruiz81124 жыл бұрын
Please help
@samg55434 жыл бұрын
@@mirandaruiz8112 not sure but it probably has this sensor
@sebastienportel31384 жыл бұрын
Merci pour les informations
@disgruntledvet11b185 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Just the advice I was looking for. I took my sensor out of the cylinder head during a head gasket job and forgot to screw it back in before I re-installed the cylinder head. I already put the entire engine and manifold back to together, and after boggling my mind as to where the final electric plug for the power strip connected to the fuel injectors went for over 2 hours, Finally I looked down through the intake manifold and saw a wide open hole in the cylinder head....of course, it was the empty threaded hole leading into my cylinder head staring me in the face. I found the sensor in my "other" box of connectors. Im going to give this a try tomorrow. Quick question...is there supposed to be an o-ring pushed into that hole in the cylinder head before the sensor is installed and tightened down? Or is the metal washer in it enough to seal it, like a crush washer for an oil line? Hope to hear back from you soon. Thanks for the video. Peace
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
Yes, crush washer is all it needs.
@disgruntledvet11b185 жыл бұрын
Sam G my cylinder head already had an o-ring inside of the hole where the sensor goes. Anyways, I was able to get the sensor in a millimeter at a time using just my fingers, and got it "finger tight". I then attempted to use the joints extensions like you did here to tighten it better, but I lost a few sockets in the process and wasn't able to grab onto it. The thing is in there as tight as I can get it by my fingers but isn't torqued down properly. I haven't even filled the car with fluids and started it yet, but do you think I'll be ok with it just being finger tight? It will i definitely have a leak? I really don't want to pull the whole intake manifold off. I'm thinking I might go buy some more sockets and give it another go. I only need to turn turn the thing another 8th of an inch for it to be really "tight"
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
@@disgruntledvet11b18 it has to be tight to seal since it is under pressure
@disgruntledvet11b185 жыл бұрын
Sam G update: after reading some of your viewers comments I decided to try a 22mm (3/8 drive) crows foot oxygen sensor socket. I was able to get the socket on by fishing it back through the area you are going at it. I was then able to situate it on the sensor so that the socket hole on the sensor socket was visible through the last 2 ribs of the intake manifold. I slid a foot long 3/8 drive socket into the slot and was able to turn the censor another 1/8 of a turn until it stopped. I feels pretty tight, not sure if it will go Any tighter since the plug on the end would no longer be oriented straight. I'm pretty sure I've got it "tight" now. I will let you know how the car runs once I fire it up next week. Thanks again
@lakerland245 жыл бұрын
I have a question, I recently bought a 2000 323i and I’m getting a fluctuating temp gauge. The car is not running hot or over heating. I scanned the car before it was bought and showed no codes. Can this be the possible fix for this temperature gauge fluctuating?
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
It's possible and likely.
@lakerland245 жыл бұрын
Sam G what are other possibilities if you don’t mind ? Thank you for replying as well
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
@@lakerland24 you would need the circuit diagram to determine all possibilities, but it could be a bad gauge or bad connection/wiring, but most likely it's the sensor if you have to guess. It's best to diagnose it before buying any parts, but the sensor is not too expensive if you want to just try it first and you don't have much experience with troubleshooting and diagnostics.
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
@@lakerland24 it is most likely a voltage divider circuit withthe gauge and sensor in series, but also could be directly reporting to the computer and gauge controlled by computer. I'm not sure. That's why the wiring diagram is important.
@lakerland245 жыл бұрын
Sam G makes sense. I reset the instrument cluster and it seem to have done the trick but I’m not sure I’m going to follow those steps you listed above to really be sure! Thanks again man you’re the real mvp
@jacksonsdad16 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam G. Many Thanks for the informative video. I'm pretty sure that sensor is the culprit on my 'warm restart' condition. My 2004 325ci fires right up when it's cold or hot but if it's been sitting for a half hour or so I have to crank it over a couple of times to get it started. It always starts and smooths out after a few seconds but you can smell how rich the mixture was... almost like a partially flooded carburetor 'back in the old days' ;o) My question is... do you think a 7/8" (or 22 mm) closed-end or open-ended wrench might work to 'grab' that nut? I've ordered the sensor. It will be here Thursday and I'm getting the tools together that you outlined in the video but I'm not sure yet if I have a socket of the proper depth that you recommended but... I know I have a wrench of that size and just thought I'd ask as it's obviously pretty much a blind job. If you think I can get a wrench on it then that's a relief but if I need to purchase a socket like the one you described then that's no big deal... just another tool for my box. Also just for my own info... I saw where you said the new part was a 22mm nut --- do you think that same size socket could be used for the removal of the old sensor? Pretty sure I have one of those that would suit the purpose. Thanks Again for the tutorial. Everything else I've found has said "just live with it unless you have to have the transmission or engine removed b/c it's nearly impossible to get at".
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
jacksonsdad1 I'm not sure that a wrench will fit, but maybe. I don't have a 22mm wrench, so I never tried it. The hex on the new one should be the same same, but can't remember. I would buy a socket just to be safe.
@jacksonsdad16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply Sam. After browsing through my tool collection I was able to find everything you recommended... even the 7/8" socket measured out perfectly. Just waiting on the part now. I'll let you know just for kicks if I'm able to get my 7/8" wrench on that thing to get it out. Thanks Again and Keep Up The Good Work!
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Let us know if the wrench fits.
@jacksonsdad16 жыл бұрын
Will do. Weather permitting I'll do the job on Saturday. One more question... in the meantime... do you think it would have any negative effects on driving the car between now and then if i go ahead and take the cabin filter and housing off now? Wouldn't mind getting a jump on it.
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
should be fine as long as you don't let rain/water into the cabin.
@erikth1263 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried this on a E46 M3 with the S54 Engine? Any chance there is a similar procedure?
@scooter1391 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much I was about to pull my intake off to do that I'm not now thanks to you
@VQMikeyProductionz3 жыл бұрын
Dude fuck ya. The best
@tomnastzy32112 жыл бұрын
Cut the box end off 22mm wrench and leave about 3” handle. It’ll fit between the sensor and the firewall and give you enough leverage to loosen it. The sensor is not torqued very tight into the head.
@kennyspringer76685 жыл бұрын
Is this and M54 3.0 if so is it the same on a M54 2.5
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
I have no idea. I'm not a BMW guy. Just did this job while it was in for body work.
@kennyspringer76685 жыл бұрын
Alright cool thanks for the response
@lukas______5 жыл бұрын
the real question is, did you charge the customer the full labor cost including pulling the intake or not? hahahah
@samg55435 жыл бұрын
Haha. I only charge for actual time typically.
@therealzooch6 жыл бұрын
Did this fix the guage?
@samg55436 жыл бұрын
Yep sure did
@elmasejerome5394 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to go to all that just to change your BMW sensor
@samg5543 Жыл бұрын
Ok, well show everyone how to do it on your channel then.
@jtaylor40274 жыл бұрын
Shade tree mechanic learning on the go and making videos. So many excuses when diagnosis was wrong and it didn't fix the problem. I forgot to film it. Give us a break.
@samg55434 жыл бұрын
This did fix the problem. The video wasn't a diagnosis/fix video. Just showing people a way to swap the sensor without removing the manifold. The diagnosis wasn't the point of showing this, that's why I filmed it after the repair was done and I knew the process worked.