2004 Pontiac GTO | Retro Review

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2 жыл бұрын

A future classic if there ever was one. Would you rather own this or a C4 Corvette?
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@dennischigirinsky9760
@dennischigirinsky9760 Жыл бұрын
2004 GTO was my first car. She's retired from daily driving duties now, but I still have her sitting in my garage. Don't think I can ever get rid of it.
@jamesborek8125
@jamesborek8125 Жыл бұрын
I've had mine since '07, and I too, can't bring myself to part with it. Such a nice car.
@wilfredonievesjr
@wilfredonievesjr Жыл бұрын
@@jamesborek8125 Bought my 04 new 18 years ago...still looks good. 78000 miles. Keeping it for my son. A sleeper of a car. Getting rarer to find now locally.
@robertbell525
@robertbell525 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah never ever get rid of it. If you wife bugs you, tell her where to go. So many guys dump their nice cars for some family hauler and kick themselves for the rest of their lives. Women are replaceable.
@tientrinh943
@tientrinh943 Жыл бұрын
What state are you in
@dennischigirinsky9760
@dennischigirinsky9760 Жыл бұрын
@@tientrinh943 I live in NYC. Garaging this car I no longer daily costs an arm and a leg.
@jdkuhl3096
@jdkuhl3096 Жыл бұрын
Really hits with the "hopefully GM goes performance shopping down under again" when you consider this and the Chevy SS/Holden Commodore. Both were such flops but could have done so well if GM had done them right.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead Жыл бұрын
If GM had advertised them plenty.. But GM only cares about Camaro n Corvette sales so th as that's why..
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@jamieshields9521
@jamieshields9521 Жыл бұрын
GM should offer HSV GTS n Maloo with LSA V8 that would had better sales plus respect from Americans.
@MitchZero9
@MitchZero9 Жыл бұрын
The car was fine. Between Cafe bullshit and lack of advertising, of course it could have done better.
@Lrules364
@Lrules364 Жыл бұрын
They DID do well. The problem was the 'ss' wasn't even advertised, and it's a supremely retarded name for a car that held the caprice name in cop car form. The G8 sold amazingly well before GM pulled the plug to move to China. Even now, a V8 G8 will run you $20k. And the GXP is hitting $35k and up.
@Be_Positive339
@Be_Positive339 10 ай бұрын
I shake my head in disbelief when people dismiss this great car as “not a real GTO” because (a) its clean, handsome styling isn't covered with tacky plastic cladding and (b) it was made by foreigners. Australians like Americans love muscle cars and have been building them for just as long and just as well. This GTO will run rings around any previous version in acceleration, handling, quality, comfort and technology. These are great used car bargains at the moment; buy one before they become collectable (they will) and prices start rising. You won’t regret it! (The same advice goes for this car’s Holden cousin, the Pontiac G8.) Both are driver’s cars in the finest Pontiac tradition.
@buzzwaldron6195
@buzzwaldron6195 Ай бұрын
Wasn't "foreign" that was the problem... it was the high price and Chevy engine and bland company car looks and small trunk...
@jamestorrens645
@jamestorrens645 Жыл бұрын
The Pontiac GTO, Pontiac G8 and Chevrolet SS. Three amazing Australian cars that were let down by General Motors. The brand that made this car sadly no longer exists.
@timmypstyle
@timmypstyle Жыл бұрын
GM has let down a lot of cars. Like the camaro...twice. speaking of... the 2010 camaro was made with a very high percentage of Australian parts because they were so much better. Not sure how much of that percentage changed after the 5th gen tho.
@jamieheim8009
@jamieheim8009 Жыл бұрын
Also the Solstice and the Saturn Sky
@smiddysmidton8313
@smiddysmidton8313 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately imo GM has made so many corporate errors like this they now have one foot in the grave imo. And the current management will bury them altogether.
@timmypstyle
@timmypstyle Жыл бұрын
@@smiddysmidton8313 I believe so too. Even during the bailout, they should have kept pontiac and dropped the highest trims of the chevy versions, and made the pontiac cars as the highest trim version of those cars. And on top of that, drop the lower trims of GMC and the higher trims of chevy. So for instance you could get a base model silverado, an LT, but drop the LTZ and make that the Sierra, and then have the Sierra Denali. They sell a base model silverado AND a base model Sierra...which the base Sierra is like $3k more and has absolutely nothing over the base silverado. So who would even bother looking at one?
@franciscodanconia4324
@franciscodanconia4324 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget they were going to bring the Ute to the US too as a Pontiac.
@PandaDiesel11
@PandaDiesel11 Жыл бұрын
As an Australian, this makes me proud
@ricomartinez2869
@ricomartinez2869 Жыл бұрын
Australia doesn't have auto industry anymore
@PandaDiesel11
@PandaDiesel11 Жыл бұрын
@@ricomartinez2869 Thanks Sherlock, this was from 2004, thus we did.
@stephenmontgomery5807
@stephenmontgomery5807 Жыл бұрын
Nice !
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@MitchZero9
@MitchZero9 Жыл бұрын
Yes, very proud! But we didn't really like the GTO nose or rear spoiler, and thr VY SS rims in 17" didnt work either.
@svtdan643
@svtdan643 Жыл бұрын
These cars had high quality interiors back in the day. I remember being really impressed. Also the 6.0s with the Ram Air hood were pretty fast for the time!!
@316Autos
@316Autos Жыл бұрын
I've owned basically every sports/muscle car from the 90's up. The GTO had the most comfortable seats by far. Only one that comes close is the Challenger. The 6.0L was limited by the bacon strips GM called tires, but once off the line, it would run right with a bolt on LS1 Fbody or C5 corvette.
@tingokuman
@tingokuman Жыл бұрын
@@316Autos I've owned both and the challengers seats don't even come close to the GTOs. The Goat has Volvo level seats. I'm sure that is subjective though.
@LukeKraus360
@LukeKraus360 Жыл бұрын
it destroyed the mustang when it came to stats gm had a golden egg and they blew it 3 times
@316Autos
@316Autos Жыл бұрын
@@LukeKraus360 GM has this really bad habit of not advertising sports cars, like at all. Most people don't even know that the 16+ Camaro is completely redesigned from the 09-15 Camaro. I am a car guy and I never knew what the Chevy SS was.
@digitalmagicAR
@digitalmagicAR Жыл бұрын
@@316Autos Very true. They barely advertised the 4th gen F-body and those were the sleek performance bargains of the planet. Basically some ads in 1993,1994 and 1998. The GTO and later Chevy SS were almost hidden.
@SkeetMcRibb
@SkeetMcRibb Жыл бұрын
I miss my 2006 GTO M6. What a wonderful car, thank you Australia!
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@davidbusch8912
@davidbusch8912 Жыл бұрын
As an Australian, I wish my country still produced such cars.
@OLDS98
@OLDS98 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for once again sharing more GM footage. It is often appereciated. You miss Pontiac and Holden after watching this.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@jamestorrens645
@jamestorrens645 Жыл бұрын
Holden was only killed off two years ago but it feels like ages.
@steveboyd3377
@steveboyd3377 Жыл бұрын
I had one of these and regret selling it. It was such a smooth riding vehicle, with plenty of power. I liked how no one knew what it was. Often mistaking it for a Grand Am or Grand Prix.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@theforgottenorg
@theforgottenorg Жыл бұрын
I wished I owned one, and wanted to buy one around 2004, but the look is why it flopped.
@BigWheel.
@BigWheel. Жыл бұрын
I swear people must only know those 2 makes of pontiac.
@eVerProductions1
@eVerProductions1 Жыл бұрын
@@theforgottenorg I love the look, but I guess it’s because I’m more into import sport car styling than American muscle
@michaelangelo5783
@michaelangelo5783 Жыл бұрын
You liked how people thought it was a Pos Grand Am/Prix? 🤔
@Taco-bomb-GTA
@Taco-bomb-GTA Жыл бұрын
Back in 2004/5 , my favorite Need For Speed Underground 2 car , good times!
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@MitchZero9
@MitchZero9 Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@carlosgil4248
@carlosgil4248 Жыл бұрын
@@aidaaliten8817 what are all those numbers you are throwing out for?
@FeartheCyr611
@FeartheCyr611 Жыл бұрын
YES!
@stephenmontgomery5807
@stephenmontgomery5807 Жыл бұрын
I ordered a 2005 in 2005, with the autocross kit. Had to wait until early 2006 to take delivery. I still have this car , it sits in my garage with a battery maintainer etc.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead Жыл бұрын
Drive it..
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@stephenmontgomery5807
@stephenmontgomery5807 Жыл бұрын
@@P71ScrewHead I have 56K on it. I do drive it. Sparingly. 😁
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmontgomery5807 Sounds good man, kick that gas pedal..lol
@reyfuentes4572
@reyfuentes4572 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmontgomery5807 how much would it be to get rid of it? Or put it in auction?
@pjcornell9691
@pjcornell9691 Жыл бұрын
I own and still daily drive my 2006 Pontiac GTO. 115,000 miles and holding up rather well🤗
@Knight21030
@Knight21030 Жыл бұрын
I had an '05 Goat loved it. Unfortunately the 4L65E tranny was the weak spot. Had the dreaded no 2/3 shift.
@pjcornell9691
@pjcornell9691 Жыл бұрын
You are correct about the Automatic transmission. Mine failed at 32,000 miles when the AT cooler which runs through the radiator leaked antifreeze in the transmission. Put in a new radiator and had the auto rebuilt by a professional and so far so good. Here in Scottsdale Arizona I like the 6.0 GTO because it looks so ordinary but it's like a USA/ Australian M3🙂
@stephenmontgomery5807
@stephenmontgomery5807 Жыл бұрын
That's awesome. While not a DD, I have my '05 sitting around 56K. I'll never part with it. I have other fast cars and such, but that one is my special one. I know that IF I did part with it, I'd regret it haha. You probably already know this but, find an extra rear-end for the GTO on eBay before they're all gone. I had to replace mine, but more because it did sit for a bit.
@Knight21030
@Knight21030 Жыл бұрын
​@@pjcornell9691 It's a classic for sure.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@zerocool5395
@zerocool5395 Жыл бұрын
This car was so dope, the 6.0 just made it even better.
@ftr911drvr
@ftr911drvr Жыл бұрын
Right! gm has a bad habit of fixing what's wrong with a car right at the end smh lol
@mikek5298
@mikek5298 Жыл бұрын
A bland jelly bean.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@orion5813
@orion5813 Жыл бұрын
@@mikek5298 I doubt anything made in the USA at the time was any better
@2steaksandwiches665
@2steaksandwiches665 Жыл бұрын
@@mikek5298 that’s why I liked it. Sleeper.
@GDuncan8002
@GDuncan8002 6 ай бұрын
So nostalgic. This guy is the voice of my childhood.
@silvastyles512
@silvastyles512 Жыл бұрын
I had the 04' M6 with LT headers, full exhaust, CAI and tune and I absolutely loved it! what a blast to drive and race with. I sold it back in 2012 when I moved down south and I still think about it from time to time.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@americantrucking6843
@americantrucking6843 Жыл бұрын
how many hp does it put into the dyno?
@thefuzzypickle8277
@thefuzzypickle8277 Жыл бұрын
@@americantrucking6843 its rated at 400 bhp with an ls2. Anywhere between a 15-20 percent drivetrain loss would be 350ish whp
@jasonludewig4126
@jasonludewig4126 Жыл бұрын
Very very happy with my 2004 M6 with Blue on Blue! 120,000mi and still feels brand new, rides great, and has excellent build quality!
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@fugginrambo
@fugginrambo Жыл бұрын
@@aidaaliten8817 huh?
@MitchZero9
@MitchZero9 Жыл бұрын
Wrong video bro.
@jmin8400
@jmin8400 Жыл бұрын
@@MitchZero9 🤡 He's in the right place.
@jmin8400
@jmin8400 Жыл бұрын
@@aidaaliten8817 Marked for spam.
@renobloodworth5601
@renobloodworth5601 Жыл бұрын
I had always wanted the GTO, but I was a early 20's broke boy, so i just ended up with beaters. I now, at almost 37 have a '17 WRX, but I'd still trade it for a GTO. Those seats and gauges were amazing, even today.
@JonR_1138
@JonR_1138 Жыл бұрын
I'm in my early 40s. I remember wanting one of these when I was in my 20s, and I still do. Maybe one day
@jordansimon6070
@jordansimon6070 Жыл бұрын
youre better off with the wrx I promise
@renobloodworth5601
@renobloodworth5601 Жыл бұрын
@@jordansimon6070 I do love my WRX so much.
@orion5813
@orion5813 Жыл бұрын
@@jordansimon6070 lol
@2steaksandwiches665
@2steaksandwiches665 Жыл бұрын
@@renobloodworth5601 Head gasket
@BLADES1320
@BLADES1320 Жыл бұрын
I purchased one back in 2004 when I was 19. A lot of road trip memories were had in this car. I had a phantom black/ red interior M6. It was fun, but I was mostly surprised at 29 mpg highway! A real performance bargain at the time.
@thefuzzypickle8277
@thefuzzypickle8277 Жыл бұрын
At 19? Damn, how was that insurance?
@BLADES1320
@BLADES1320 Жыл бұрын
@@thefuzzypickle8277 Insurance was stupid expensive! But cheaper than some other performance alternatives at the time. Like the 03 Cobra, Evo 8 to name a couple.
@atmartens
@atmartens Жыл бұрын
I’m sure that was a fun car for 19. My first car at 16 and had until I was 21 was a Volvo 850 GLT😂
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
Even though it's a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia mate.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@Spectacular Spectacular Since it's made in Australia and it's technically a Holden Monaro and not a real GTO like the originals.
@Jfromes1
@Jfromes1 Жыл бұрын
They fell short with the exterior but the interior of these was really nice. Especially when compared to other GM cars of that era. The performance and handling was also really good
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 Жыл бұрын
I owned a 2005 - and the interior was really solid, very compariable to a Cadillac CTS. That's what I owned back to back to back, a 07 CTS -> 05 GTO -> 08 CTS (new model), and the GTO held up really well in ride and quality. As for handling, it was fine for a car like this, again, I'd compare it to the CTS, which isn't a bad thing if you know anything about the CTS, but I certainly wasn't going to think I was in my Corvette or later BMW M-sport. Overall I really liked the car, I just got bored of the styling, it was so bland, I just bored looking at it and got another CTS.
@BigWheel.
@BigWheel. Жыл бұрын
I loved the exterior, and I think it's aged nicely. Very undersated which was nice after so many years of fwd base model pontac family sedans that looked like they wanted to scream at you going 100mph but could only manage a polite "excuse me" as the struggled to hit 80. Just really cool to finally see a pontiac badge on something fast and clean. The later GTPs G8s G6 and the 05 bonnevilles all cleaned up really well too for that matter.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 Жыл бұрын
@@BigWheel. if you love this exterior, you probably think a Camry is too stylish for you. But I will agree it's aged well, it doesn't look as generic now as it did at the time. Again, I owned one, really liked it outside of the boring looks.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@@BigWheel. Its still a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia mate
@FordSVT1313
@FordSVT1313 Жыл бұрын
I own a 03 Cobra and want one of these someday. 6.0 and 6 speed. I agree the interior is very good compared to most back then.
@windwalker121
@windwalker121 Жыл бұрын
When these were going out of production and things were slowing down for Pontiac in general, I had a dealer offer me one of the later LS2 versions, new, for $30K even, before tax, tag and title. I wish now that I'd gotten it.
@Lrules364
@Lrules364 Жыл бұрын
You can get a nice used one for about that price, that's practically new. They've been stagnant in price for years thanks to other muscle cars coming out.
@sling__sh0t909
@sling__sh0t909 Жыл бұрын
@@Lrules364 wdym? They have shot up in the past year or 2 lol
@musclecarenjoyer
@musclecarenjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@sling__sh0t909 the 04s go for high teens low twenties for low mileage ones
@sling__sh0t909
@sling__sh0t909 Жыл бұрын
@@musclecarenjoyer I know I bought a 06 about 7/8 months ago
@padistedor
@padistedor Жыл бұрын
Someone gave me a ride in one of these, threw me back in my seat. Was stupid fast but looked so understated.
@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711
@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711 Жыл бұрын
This is the first car I really dreamed about, the 04 model was great, but the 05-06 were truly beautiful. The 2005 Mustang retro styling was this car biggest problem, the aerodynamic GTO couldn’t do much against the squared Ford nostalgia, the 2005 hood redesign, twin exhausts and 6.0L V8 helped but it wasn’t enough. In a perfect world, GM would still be building these as a larger than Camaro, Challenger-rivaling muscle car/grand tourer.
@joconnell3473
@joconnell3473 Жыл бұрын
I bought a new GTO in '04, test drove the Mustang when it came out and was disappointed how little torque it made compared to the GTO.
@joconnell3473
@joconnell3473 Жыл бұрын
@@IceTTom The ugliest Mustang ever made, now with a voided warranty!
@hakeemsd70m
@hakeemsd70m Жыл бұрын
@@joconnell3473 The New Edge is the ugliest Mustang? Have you seen that rebaged 1974 Pinto they tried to pass off as a Mustang?
@joconnell3473
@joconnell3473 Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemsd70m but that was technically a Mustang II, I stick with my claim.
@hakeemsd70m
@hakeemsd70m Жыл бұрын
@@joconnell3473 Doesn't matter what they call it, it was still a Pinto coupe, a firecracker piece of sh!t. It was ugly, slow, and the Cobra II could probably be outran by a Country Squire of the same vintage.
@67Caddie
@67Caddie Жыл бұрын
Bought one off the showroom floor in December 2004. It was an automatic with the Yellowjacket color. It was 1 of about 700 in that color combination. I took it several days later and had a sunroof cut in; my car was the second GTO in St. Louis with a sunroof cut in. Car was quick. Ran 14's at Gateway Raceway across the river with me driving. Fun car!!
@Commander76
@Commander76 Жыл бұрын
Dropping the 5.7 in 2004 and then the better more powerful 6.0 just one model year later was a HUGE slap in the face.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@Lrules364
@Lrules364 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it kinda was. But I'm thankful they did it when they did. Because we had 2 full years of LS2 goodness before GM stupidly pulled the plug on their only muscle car at the time.
@tomnewham1269
@tomnewham1269 11 ай бұрын
Here in Australia the Monaro initially came out with the 5.7 in 2001 so that is the reason why you only had the 5.7 for a year. It just happened that you got the GTO late in its first generation cycle.
@Captainz06
@Captainz06 Жыл бұрын
I miss my 2005 cyclone gray GTO. It was my first V8. The 05-06 GTOs looked more aggressive with the updated hood and rear end. I bought it for about 15k back in 2015 and had so much fun with it. RIP Pontiac :(
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
Except the 04 to 06 GTOs we're rebadged Holden Monaros from Australia not made by Pontiac like the old school GTOs were.
@charlessynowiec3876
@charlessynowiec3876 Жыл бұрын
@@CJColvin dk why that matters so much. holden is gm. chevy is gm. pontiac is gm. therefore, gm still did their shit w this car and ofc failed the ppl w marketing
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@charles synowiec Then why didn't it revived the Pontiac brand then?
@man_on_wheelz
@man_on_wheelz Жыл бұрын
I drove one of these before I knew it was an Australian Holden. After having driven plenty of Pontiacs before, I could tell by the feel of the interior and the warning chimes that something was different about this car. Wasn't sure if they just gave it a bit more attention because it was the infamous GTO or what was going on, but now I see... it was a Holden all along. Recently almost bought one of these instead of the car I have now. Only reason I passed on it was cause the car I was looking at was a bit too rough around the edges for what I was looking for. Passed on a Marauder for the same reason.
@duffhole6304
@duffhole6304 Жыл бұрын
If you're looking to get one, find some facebook groups to join. Peeps sell decent ones there all the time.
@Dave-dh7rt
@Dave-dh7rt Жыл бұрын
My grandma has a 2004 marauder that has 8,500 miles and is mint. She is looking to sell it for the right price 😏
@man_on_wheelz
@man_on_wheelz Жыл бұрын
@@Dave-dh7rt Hope she gets it sold for the right price, that is one MEAN car, I was REALLY close to pulling the trigger on the cheap one I was looking at, despite it having a collapsed air suspension, high miles, and a rough paint job and interior. But I'm happy with my Ecoboost Lincoln MKS which is basically just a Taurus SHO in a tux.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@@man_on_wheelz And still as every bit as overpriced as a Tarus Sho.
@man_on_wheelz
@man_on_wheelz Жыл бұрын
@@CJColvin When it was new it was pretty expensive, yeah, especially for 10 less HP than the SHO but it is admittedly a really nice and nicely equipped car for a 2010, which I bought well used, so it didn't cost me all that much in comparison. However, unlike the SHO, my car is more of a sleeper since nothing about it's appearance screams "I can go from 0-60 in 5.4 seconds" unless you get the one with the Ecoboost appearance package which mine does not have.
@barsaf9989
@barsaf9989 Жыл бұрын
Always really liked these. Great looks and decent interior. I read the 6.0L made this car better to drive.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 Жыл бұрын
I owned and '05 and the interior was excellent - and I've owned Caddy's and BMW's, so I know what a good interior is. Excellent, big, heavy, thick leather seats. The headunit is just a radio, so in today's world, you pull it out, put it in the closet and install a Carplay unit and you got something that feels very modern. The exterior is why I traded it in on a CTS back in 08, because it was just so boring looking, like a big Grand Am. It's aged decently, but mainly because all the Grand Am's have broken down and are in junkyards, so you don't see them everywhere. Had Pontiac made these look more interesting and special, they'd had sold a lot more. On the engine, I wouldn't say the 400hp 6.0 made it 'better' to drive, as a heavier engine pretty much always means worse handling (slightly in this case), but the extra 50hp and 50tq made a very noticeable difference once you were moving.
@chilliwhiggerE
@chilliwhiggerE Жыл бұрын
I bought an IBM 2004 GTO back in 2009 and I still have it with 97,000 mi on it. It's in the midst of a nose to tail refresh and upgrade blitz. A friend of mine thinks I may have the best maintained one in the country for its mileage. There is no rust on my undercarriage, all sensors have been replaced, the doors have been cleaned out and rebuilt etc etc. If I was going to list everything that's going on with this car it would take up 10 paragraphs, at least. Holden did some silly things with the engineering of the car and I have worked those out. I think when I'm done it should weigh less than 3600 lb.
@curtjeziorski350
@curtjeziorski350 Жыл бұрын
I was looking at an 06 gto. I'm old now and went with a g8 gt. No regrets!! Awesome car
@lucasmynatt415
@lucasmynatt415 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned quite a few different cars and my 04 GTO is probably still my favorite I had.
@icky_thump
@icky_thump Жыл бұрын
I can't think of any other car that offered a manual as an UPCHARGE option. And this was still during an era where manuals were produced fairly regularly.
@Lrules364
@Lrules364 Жыл бұрын
I believe that mostly had to do with the importing of parts. Not something GM was proud of at the time.
@hughmungus7858
@hughmungus7858 Жыл бұрын
Might have ended up being cheaper if it meant avoiding the gas guzzler tax
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 Жыл бұрын
There's others. Challenger is a current example.
@coltonphillips1
@coltonphillips1 Жыл бұрын
I miss Pontiac so much. I drive a Pontiac Vibe everyday.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
If all goes well, my 2005 Vibe will be good for another 10 years. 😁
@Lrules364
@Lrules364 Жыл бұрын
We all do man. We did what we could to try to save the brand, but obams, his car czars, and 'new GM' all had their hands already in china's honey pot, and Pontiac was an American brand that stood for freedom. Can't have that when the NWO takes over with it's Chinese money.
@mikeflege5733
@mikeflege5733 Жыл бұрын
No, you drive a Toyota Matrix
@mustangdee_8760
@mustangdee_8760 Жыл бұрын
I had an 09 gt with exhaust and 4.10s. I use to give this guy a good run with a 6.0 gto. I would jump him off the line and hold him out for a good bit but that 3v just can't compete with the ls2 top end. He would run me down for sure. The pontiac GTO, Grand Prix GXP, and bonneville GXP was some of the coolest cars in the mid 2000s.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
Except the GTO was a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia 🇦🇺
@DickVanNiggz
@DickVanNiggz Жыл бұрын
If GM would’ve made those GXP/GTPs, Monte Carlo SS, and all those 5.3/3.8sc fwd cars rear wheel drive they would have been so much more appreciated, they’re practically forgotten now and it’s tough to keep a damn transmission in them lmao
@FeartheCyr611
@FeartheCyr611 Жыл бұрын
This car was (and still is) my Go-to car in need for speed underground 2!
@outwestwade
@outwestwade Жыл бұрын
That's the reason why I bought mines 😌
@tingokuman
@tingokuman Жыл бұрын
Ahh fond memories of my 2006😁😁. I had the LS2 6.0. It was always in Launch mode. When you put it in drive the suspension would squat so it could hook up and blast off. You will not find a better interior in any car. Thank you Australia!!!!
@JohnMachado24
@JohnMachado24 Жыл бұрын
Must have been the only one they made with launch control, wow! Should have kept it, sounds extremely rare.
@jdubskiwright2380
@jdubskiwright2380 Жыл бұрын
Never heard of one having adjustable reactive suspension either...
@JohnMachado24
@JohnMachado24 Жыл бұрын
@@jdubskiwright2380 lol right? This guy's had some serious work done, must have been a fortune! *wink wink*
@tingokuman
@tingokuman Жыл бұрын
@@JohnMachado24 Nope maybe your's doesn't have it. I believe the 05 and 06 were a bit different from the one in this video. Mine preloaded its rear end whether I wanted it to or not. It's factory. If you have an 05 or 06 check your owners guide.
@JohnMachado24
@JohnMachado24 Жыл бұрын
@@tingokuman I'm sorry but this is not a feature on any of the GTO's (04-06), it does not have that nor was an option. If anything you are feeling that from all the torque the car has, car just had a regular suspension like all the other muscle cars from this era.
@2003monte
@2003monte Жыл бұрын
Still have my 04 with only 32,000 miles. Love it
@Mawerik024
@Mawerik024 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh I love the GTO. One of the best musclecars of modern days. Sleek, powerful, reliable, cheap, so much fun.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
Yet still a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia mate
@hakeemsd70m
@hakeemsd70m Жыл бұрын
@@CJColvin Hey the Monaro was a damn good car.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemsd70m We already know that but all I'm saying is this is a Holden Monaro from Australia 🇦🇺 not a real Pontiac GTO.
@LouieYouTube
@LouieYouTube Жыл бұрын
@@CJColvin according to my title it reads Pontiac gto and i'll refer to it as such, its not any less real then your ego. please continue to let everyone know what they already knew its a great car plagued with people that love to call it out particularly keyboard warriors. If you were a real stickler you would have informed people that it was built in Elizabeth Australia by holden but that would still be common knowledge as it's clearly stated on the door vin sticker and its a dead giveaway vins that start with a 6.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@@LouieKZbin Whats the vin number between the Holden Monaro and GTO mate!!!!
@clintonstubbs2319
@clintonstubbs2319 Жыл бұрын
I worked at a Pontiac dealer back in 2006 for the summer during college and remembered riding and also driving one of these Pontiac GTOs. I really liked it. It was a sleeper and was a well made car. I wish GM used more from Holden in the US like the Caprice and Commodore. I know there was the G8 and the Chevy SS but more of the family sedans.
@Driftmonkey
@Driftmonkey Жыл бұрын
Could imagine Americans would be boosting all the v6 base model commodores with the buick v6 3.8L 😂
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 Жыл бұрын
The Caprice was sold as a fleet vehicle at the same time they were selling the SS
@Damage42X
@Damage42X Жыл бұрын
These are still loved and sought after here in the Gulf countries. Although they're called the Chevy Lumina SS Coupe.
@charlesdalton985
@charlesdalton985 Жыл бұрын
A few random thoughts. The original 1964 GTO was rather plain compared to later versions as well. The 389 was not a small block. I can’t believe it’s been 18 years already. Thank you for sharing.
@rickhunter6513
@rickhunter6513 Жыл бұрын
When this first came out I thought it was generic looking as hell. Loved the performance but good lord, BOOOOOORING looking. 17ish years later, this car stands out on the road now. Not the greatest looking but it does look sleek and I’d be proud to own or be seen in one. Very cool car!
@floridaman2528
@floridaman2528 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I bought an '05 late that year and thought the same thing. Now when I look at pictures of my goat it looks better than ever. Funny how times and taste changes.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
But not as cool as the Old school GTOs considering this is a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia mate.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@@floridaman2528 Still looks bland and boring compared to the original GTOs.
@rickhunter6513
@rickhunter6513 Жыл бұрын
@@CJColvin The 1966/67 GTO is pretty much unbeatable in the looks department IMO
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@@rickhunter6513 Yep you got it brother.
@Tool_jira_shugg
@Tool_jira_shugg Жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this from the official MotorWeek channel lol
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@fitfogey
@fitfogey Жыл бұрын
A guy I worked with had an 06 6.0 one of these. He put a supercharger on it. We’d go to lunch in it every now and then. That thing really moved.
@koltfoote6839
@koltfoote6839 4 ай бұрын
I’ve got a black one! My aunt got it new when it released and it’s still just as fast and beautiful as back then!
@BurtSampson
@BurtSampson Жыл бұрын
I want to go back to the early 2000's so bad that it's unreal.
@Chitwn81
@Chitwn81 Жыл бұрын
2004 was a good year for Pontiac....I loved the Bonneville GXP with the Northstar that was also introduced for 2004. That thing sounded wonderful with the low rumble and was pretty quick for how large it was. Loved the suede/leather combo seats. I liked both the GTO and Bonneville but I'd take the Bonneville for the space
@kevinharris1462
@kevinharris1462 Жыл бұрын
YoloSwag no one really knew much about that Bonneville. It was huge with a million buttons on the dash but it was a sweet car nonetheless. Engine was nice but very unreliable. If I could find one with low miles I'd buy immediately
@hakeemsd70m
@hakeemsd70m Жыл бұрын
@@kevinharris1462 A 2004 Northstar should be way more reliable than earlier versions. 2004 is the year GM fixed the head bolt issue. I would do anything to find a clean 2004-05 Bonneville GXP. They are rare cars, as are all final-gen Bonnevilles, because GM only sold 12,000 Bonnevilles period from late 1999 (for the 2000 model year) to 2005.
@Chitwn81
@Chitwn81 Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemsd70m I agree bro. I had a 04 GXP in Metallic Gray and I had no issues. Unfortunately they only let me keep it for a month and then I had to take it back and get something newer. Got a 07 Monte Carlo same color with only 16k miles in Jan 08
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
The only problem was that the Ford Crownvic and Mercury Grand Marquis were more reliable and robust than the Bonneville with the Northstar V8 and plus the Bonnevilles from the 2000s never looked as beautiful as the Bonnevilles from the 1960s.
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was odd that they put the Northstar in the Bonneville and the bigger, more powerfull LS4 in the smaller Grand Prix which they then paired with a weaker transaxle.
@nebelwerfer199
@nebelwerfer199 Жыл бұрын
They had a chance to really make a splash with this and they came up short with styling, really short. It had that late 90's oval styling.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@MitchZero9
@MitchZero9 Жыл бұрын
Well, thats how the Monaro was designed for its market (Australia) and its still gorgeous today. That platform and basic design goes back to 94~ish as a Opel/Vauxhall before Holden done their thing with it and released it as the VT Commodore in 97. Australia didn't like the GTO treatment either. It screwed the lines.
@MidnightinSavannah
@MidnightinSavannah Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the 1990 Chevy Beretta on the outside.
@vitalys5395
@vitalys5395 Жыл бұрын
The car that its based on, came out in 97, so no surprise that it looks like its from the 90's.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
Yep you got it brother and not to mention that it nothing but a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia as well (meaning not a real Pontiac nor a real GTO like the old GTOs were).
@svpracer98
@svpracer98 Жыл бұрын
My dad borrowed one from work when I was in 1st grade (he always got gm company cars), and I remember being really excited when we took off from stop lights. It may not have been the strongest attempt, but it was a really cool car to 1st grade me.
@ricardocorbie6803
@ricardocorbie6803 Жыл бұрын
These cars made lots of noise back in the day! With all the goodies, I almost bought one!! I was holding out for my current BABY,, GT500, these cars are starting to come up in value!! Rest In Peace Pontiac!!
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
They're actually a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia mate and they're made in Australia as well.
@carlosgil4248
@carlosgil4248 Жыл бұрын
@@CJColvin ok ok ok we get it it's a rebadged holden monaro from Australia smh
@ricardocorbie6803
@ricardocorbie6803 Жыл бұрын
@@CJColvin Yessssss I knew this,, still a great rebadged product!! I wanted a blue one soo badly!! It had a 6.0 !! Thanks
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
@@ricardocorbie6803 Nice, just not as beautiful looking as the original (considering it isn't a real Pontiac).
@defaultdaniel
@defaultdaniel Жыл бұрын
Man I miss reviews like this. As straight-forward and informative as it gets.
@michaelsimko7694
@michaelsimko7694 Жыл бұрын
Red and yellow are my favorite exterior colors on these. The exterior styling was aggressive, but was a bit too aerodynamic for the GTO name. These are bound to become popular collector cars in the next 5-10 years.
@gameshark427
@gameshark427 Жыл бұрын
Truly hated this car back in 2004 ! It's was so frustrating to see Pontiac discontinue the Trans Am & 2 years later throw this in our faces...
@orion5813
@orion5813 Жыл бұрын
that trans am was a piece of shit compared to the gto
@gameshark427
@gameshark427 Жыл бұрын
@@orion5813 Why do you think that ?
@LSGOAT04
@LSGOAT04 Жыл бұрын
Bought my 04 in early 2008. Still have it 14 years later. Modified to my liking. Original owner had a sunroof installed when new.
@williamcass68
@williamcass68 Жыл бұрын
I had an 04… very cool car. GM has made too many mistakes over the years to ever get my $ again.
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@floridaman2528
@floridaman2528 Жыл бұрын
I bought an '05 IBM in late '05, loved the car but was not crazy about the styling. I modded with a TVS supercharger, heads, blower cam, CF drive shart, 1,000 hp axle stubs and hubs, detroit true-track, pedders track suspension, and more. Daily drove it for 72k miles, and never had an issue. Sold it in 2013. But I think I like the styling better now than when I had it.
@donnis618
@donnis618 Жыл бұрын
Actually, it does look better now. I did like the styling then too but when I see one now It just looks good next to all these boring ass cars and suv's lol
@Ricardo_C
@Ricardo_C Жыл бұрын
I was in middle school when these came out , I saw one in a dealership and fell in love with em.
@cmauchi29
@cmauchi29 Жыл бұрын
Pontiac and Holden don't exist anymore but they left us good memories!
@bobforpples
@bobforpples Жыл бұрын
Nice 1/4 mile test numbers Motorweek!
@AarmOZ84
@AarmOZ84 5 ай бұрын
When I was training in the US Navy, I promised myself if I completed the training, I could use my enlistment bonus as a down payment on a sports car. I ended up getting the 2004 Pontiac GTO in black with grey interior and the 6 speed manual transmission. 6 traffic stops including one arrest later, it was the best car I have ever owned.
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 Жыл бұрын
It was a shame these didn't really take off in the US. Still it was good to see people there appreciating an Aussie car. GM and the powers that be over here pulled out of manufacturing over here and Holden having an Aussie built car on their list of vehicles. As much as people loved Holden here they weren't having that. Holden tried to keep going as an outlet for imported cars, mostly from Korea, it went down like a lead balloon. The brand was closed down about a year after that. GM is still here in a much reduced capacity, I think they sell their large pickups, Camaro and Corvette here. Or try to.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
Well if it had retro styling to match its performance then it would've sold servely well mate.
@StephenFogarty2023
@StephenFogarty2023 Жыл бұрын
Great retro review. Real pity that GM got out of RHD countries, and killed off the Holden division in Australia. Commodore production ended at the factory in Adelaide, South Australia, in late 2017… After the GFC in 2008, things changed in a huge way, due to the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in 2009. After this, GM USA were a different company, and some poor decisions were made. Holden Australia had great ideas etc, which often involved exporting to many OS locations, but these were sadly, frequently killed off, and not supported or funded by GM USA… 😩
@g00dl00kinb0i
@g00dl00kinb0i Жыл бұрын
Same can be said for the European Opel and Vauxhall, both brands shared a lot with Buick in recent years and even Pontiac, Chevrolet and Cadillac in the past, selling them to the French PSA that same year was a suicide move, unless lower sales in Europe was GM's ultimate goal....sad. GM owned Opel since 1926 or 29 !
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Holden for making great cars
@brianlee9233
@brianlee9233 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thank you Holden and Pontiac for making these outstanding cars!
@JUNKYARDGTO
@JUNKYARDGTO Жыл бұрын
My favorite motor week was this episode lol subscribed
@chrismarek7864
@chrismarek7864 Жыл бұрын
I bought my 04 GTO Impulse Blue 6 speed manual about a year ago and I’ve loved every minute behind the wheel.
@mustangs-marketing
@mustangs-marketing Жыл бұрын
i love how the intro just shows a Pontiac Grand Prix
@stbrian1861
@stbrian1861 Жыл бұрын
I Love everything about this GTO, especially the Halogen Headlights ! Never had any trouble seeing exactly what I needed to see in the dark AND was almost never blinded by LED headlights and LED Eye-Piercers on nearly every single building. We're talking penitentiary grade lighting which is overkill.
@trevorcunning6248
@trevorcunning6248 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!!!
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@richki.24
@richki.24 Жыл бұрын
I miss my 2004 GTO ... I was able to push my 2004 GTO to a 13.7 @ 106mph at Atco ...
@BigJoe2.0
@BigJoe2.0 7 ай бұрын
One of my favorite cars of all time. Sadly I was never able to obtain one but still see a rare few on the road
@solofalcon
@solofalcon Жыл бұрын
still one of my dream cars, despite it not being anything like the original and my friend claims it looks like a Grand Am or Grand Prix....
@harrishustle
@harrishustle Жыл бұрын
Finally...... They did a retro review on the GOAT!! I've been waiting!!! 😁👍
@d3rk11
@d3rk11 6 ай бұрын
I was sleepin on these during my teenage years, having been smitten by the Cobras of that era. The fact that the ls2 is putting out as much power as the supercharged 4.6l is astounding. Take my money.
@herkloader34
@herkloader34 6 ай бұрын
I owned a 2004 Pulse Red with automatic. I racked up 90,000 miles in four years without any issues with it. One of the best cars I ever owned.
@spyderlyf3
@spyderlyf3 Жыл бұрын
Had an 05 PBM and it was nothing but problems...broken motor mounts, saggy rear springs, alignment issues with bad radious rod bushings, drive axle and rear end issues..interior started falling apart..I have very different memories of this car...sold it cheap..still have a custom car cover and rear Holden lights for it..thanks for the reminder to sell them..
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@floridaman2528
@floridaman2528 Жыл бұрын
Crazy, I had an '05 PBM, modded the heck out of it but never had one issue over 72k miles. Who knows.
@Billy_Ray_Garage
@Billy_Ray_Garage 24 күн бұрын
Bought my GTO new in 04 and still have it. Love it so much! Getting all the upgrades now. Paid 600 a month then, now I refuse to pay that for a new car 😂
@golfboy83
@golfboy83 Жыл бұрын
Always loved these. I still want one, but the prices are going up again.
@squirtqween8791
@squirtqween8791 Жыл бұрын
Such A Beauty Of Machinery. Am I The Only One Who Misses Pontiac????
@speedygoatzales
@speedygoatzales Жыл бұрын
Bought my 2004 in 2006 with 6k miles on it. Still have it 16yrs later w/41k miles and will never part with it. Yes it is understated in the looks but I like that about it. Most people have no idea what it is. The value is also climbing because there aren't really that many. They are imho the last simple V8 powered coupe made. Today you have so many modes and nanny's that get in the way. The GTO has traction control but it is either on or off. That is it.
@7CFlo
@7CFlo Жыл бұрын
I remember buying a 6M limited color leftover in early 2005 for 25,500 brand new. Now you can't get much for 30k
@MrCarGuy
@MrCarGuy Жыл бұрын
A timeless design inside and out
@chicagoui9299
@chicagoui9299 Жыл бұрын
I love the G8 GTO siblings. Smooth and fast!!
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@CJColvin
@CJColvin Жыл бұрын
They're rebadged Holdens from Australia mate
@TheGinger15765
@TheGinger15765 Жыл бұрын
Love my 04. Had it bout a year now. Manual. Black on red. Love it.
@snapyo1472
@snapyo1472 Жыл бұрын
I would love one of these. At the time it was so fast!
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@caseynorman20xx
@caseynorman20xx Жыл бұрын
My dad was selling cars back when this came out, we test drove it, and I was to young to understand how dope this was. It just looked way to Pontiac to really make it stand out. After our modern day Renaissance with the retro muscle remakes, like the challenger, charger, camero, a new gto would be dope. And with the new GM motoros, this thing would be such a great sleeper.
@nelsonvanvickle8862
@nelsonvanvickle8862 Жыл бұрын
And eighteen years later, you can pick up a hot hatch four banger that’s just as fast and has far superior handling. My how times have changed
@montecarloss305
@montecarloss305 Жыл бұрын
My pops still has his 05 GTO M6 in this same red. Definitely still gets attention when he takes it out.
@Mike-lj4ue
@Mike-lj4ue Жыл бұрын
I had a red 04. I hate I ever sold it. You can build the heck out of the ls. It’s bullet proof.
@ClarkPesto
@ClarkPesto Жыл бұрын
Love mine. I have an 04 phantom black w/ red interior. Threw in a cam, full exhaust, 3.90 gear. Put it on pedders coilovers and willwood big brakes all around. Hopefully a procharger soon.
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze Жыл бұрын
my friendjust got a yellow one with 77K, he drove 2hrs to get it… im happy for him
@air1986
@air1986 Жыл бұрын
Damn this brought me back. I bought the 2005 400 hp. I miss the car though it did have problems with the rear wheels. I ended up getting the wheel and rim warranty from the dealer and it didn't disappoint. I think I replaced the rear left tire 4 times during ownership. Other than that loved it. If I had to buy it again I would have def went for the 6 speed not the 4 speed.
@Monkeyboy2457
@Monkeyboy2457 Жыл бұрын
I love my 2004 Monaro. It can whip muscle cars from the 60's and 70's, is smooth and comfortable, and is free of excess electronic interventions.
@timhamm4027
@timhamm4027 Жыл бұрын
I miss Holden Australia.
@kevincollins8620
@kevincollins8620 Жыл бұрын
I still love this car and G8!!! They are both great cars. Legends!!
@caseydouglas412
@caseydouglas412 Жыл бұрын
18 years ago wow 2004 feels like it was only yesterday time really files
@jamesmcintire3800
@jamesmcintire3800 Жыл бұрын
This really was a much better car than sales numbers would have you believe. It’s a shame we will never see cars like this again. And it’s because everyone snubbed their collective nose at it in 2004. And only because GM couldn’t turn the clock back to 1969.
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave Жыл бұрын
The 389 wasn't a small block. It had the same basic block as a 455, 400, 428, 421, 326, 350, even the original 287. And while a 60's GTO will not handle with today's cars it was considered to be one of the best handling muscle cars from the era, just behind the 442. My son owns an '06 and I own a 69. Both are beautiful cars. Parts are getting a little hard to find on the 06 though.
@frankburns8871
@frankburns8871 Жыл бұрын
Yesterday I told the driver next to me to stop yapping and get out his pink slip. I had no idea it was the legendary JD. Now I'm walking.
@boss12
@boss12 Жыл бұрын
Love these.
@Hintonbro.
@Hintonbro. Жыл бұрын
Love John’s MC Hammer pants
@tjord
@tjord Жыл бұрын
business casual JNCOs
@aidaaliten8817
@aidaaliten8817 Жыл бұрын
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@RoadCone411
@RoadCone411 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting an Eric Johnson "Cliffs of Dover" vibe with the soundtrack that plays this entire video...wish we could just hear the pure engine for even a short time!
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