I can't wrap my mind around a well versed petrol head, who's making a series on Renaults, and didn't plan to include a 182 Trophy. That doesn't compute. ..but i'm sending thanks to Darren for putting you on the right track. He did good :) I've always loved the 182, but after seeing the video harry did on his i lust after a Trophy. Seems to have all i need in a fun car :)
@BM_PAZ4 жыл бұрын
You know if Harry has one then it's good.
@jo05dk4 жыл бұрын
@@BM_PAZ Yup!
@Rascularvideos4 жыл бұрын
Trust me, it is.
@jo05dk4 жыл бұрын
@Dogs Bollocks 😄 Way to live up to your username 🙂 Harry Metcalfe is the Harry we speak of. Founder of Evo Magazine, owner of Harry's Garage and Harry's Farm KZbin channels, and an absolute petrolhead 🙂
@ripptorr4 жыл бұрын
why on earth would you keep original tyres on such a good example of a driver's car? WHY??
@palethorpe014 жыл бұрын
If money was no object, then I would definitely own both the Williams and the Trophy. I adore little lightweight Hot Hatch's, they're just honest, simple and most of all, great fun.
@Harryjones054 жыл бұрын
You could just buy a 182 and whack some coilovers and Speedline Turinis on it for a fraction of the cost of a Trophy...
@shmazen63202 жыл бұрын
Man the roads there are absolutely PERFECT and what an amazing car...
@thalassaskyros4 жыл бұрын
I am 45 years old and I love the tribute on little renaults. I am a fan on this era hot hatch. I own a peugeot 306 Gti 6 1999 and before that owned a 106 rally 1.6 16v. Great cars both. Love them. I am waiting for a peugeot tribute now. Great job Jay!!! A Greek fan living in USA.
@JayEmmOnCars4 жыл бұрын
Thanks fella!
@Mgoblagulkablong4 жыл бұрын
I remember Harry Metcalfe from Evo saying on a video how during the drivers car of the year event when this came out on narrow, twisty, bumpy B roads it kept up with Lamborghinis and Ferraris, I think Harry still owns one.
@MrGwaldo4 жыл бұрын
Lamborghini couldn’t keep up on that test. Owned mine since nearly new; cracking car.
@sparky48784 жыл бұрын
He bought the press car that was featured in Evo.
@SChapps4 жыл бұрын
His video is why I appreciate this car so much, I believe his son owns it now but i'm sure they'll always keep it in the family
@waveneycroson47854 жыл бұрын
Still got the article with my Clio Trophy file. They were halcyon days for the car 🥰
@waynesimpson20744 жыл бұрын
Harry did a video on it last year?
@andytims14 жыл бұрын
The best hot hatch ever made - period. Absolutely loved mine.
@stigben4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Then came along my kids a ruined driving fun
@andymiller88774 жыл бұрын
I miss mine so so much 😭
@Rascularvideos4 жыл бұрын
A longer story but the upshot is I bought one of these just over a month ago. What a car. The damping is fantastic and the way it takes off around 5,000 rpm is addictive. I have no problems with the seats but, unlike @jayemm, my frame of reference is somewhat more limited. The steering wheel is another matter but it doesn’t spoil it. It’s extremely sensitive to alignment/tyre pressures but get ‘em right and...This is a car that begs to be driven. It genuinely makes me chuckle sometimes. I love it.
@s_s_s_cars4 жыл бұрын
Great cars👍
@theroddy4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 182 with the Cup packs the moment they were available to order back in 2004. Best car I’ve ever owned. Best built too, bizarrely. Still can’t fathom that one out 😂
@TheSaint4914 жыл бұрын
These cars are excellent, regardless of trophy spec or just 182 standard. They just feel so alive and eager, it makes you laugh and feel happy
@darthwiizius3 жыл бұрын
For 10 years now I have been driving and gurning, people coming the other way must think it's odd but it's just me Clio182.
@Justin2254 жыл бұрын
Great cars. I had a standard 182 from brand new and did 120k trouble free miles in it before I sold it 3 yrs later. Loved every mile I did in it!
@bassline2k104 жыл бұрын
Not quite a trophy but i have a "full fat" 182 that i have daily driven for 7 years now. As fairly young enthusiast, this car is everything i could ever ask for. As for pounds per fun value, surely nothing currently beats these clio 172/182's.
@WE4ZYE4 жыл бұрын
I owned a 172 sounded lovely with a custom exhaust and filter on it I had it for 10 years best car I’ve owned would deffo have another. Still my fav hot hatch I run a civic Type R fn2 now but still love these 😍
@michaelyounes294 жыл бұрын
I borrowed one for two weeks a few years back. The stiff ride was shock and it's thirst for fuel. What never got old was the sound When it was in Vtec. I've always wanted a Championship edition or a Mugen since.
@danielmarshall45874 жыл бұрын
JayEmm.... I'm glad you indulged Darren's request. Lovely car, great vid as always thank, thank you.
@stacymitchell64534 жыл бұрын
I daily a 182 with the cup packs, love driving it.
@zarrg14 жыл бұрын
I have a 182 too, not cup mind you. Have done a few tweaks to it in the last 2 years of ownership. But all throughout have enjoyed driving it thoroughly...even to the shops and back.
@vector4094 жыл бұрын
so do i, RB with trendlines at now 94k miles .. had it for 10 years, can't replace, it can't fault it.
@stacymitchell64534 жыл бұрын
@@vector409 I've had mine 4 years, just hit 95k.
@vector4094 жыл бұрын
@@stacymitchell6453 keep it.. you will find nothing to replace it and it will not lose you any money apart from servicing :)
@darthwiizius3 жыл бұрын
@@stacymitchell6453 Had mine 10 years she's at 42.5K, I really should get round to changing the cam belt some day.
@samcourt62284 жыл бұрын
Love a 182, still regret not buying a cracking example in a Gordini blue a while back. The Trophy is the best version.
@flyingbananatree56614 жыл бұрын
I think that's the best exhaust note I've ever heard, from a hot hatch at least. I want one!
@johnjackson124 жыл бұрын
I remember owning one of these 10y ago and loved driving it. Replaced by a mk1 focus rs but it was still impressive for its day. Now days it's not faster than a golf gtd lol but still a genuinely fun car to drive
@GuysThatDrive4 жыл бұрын
172 Cup is the sweet spot for value, driving enjoyment and rarity. Massively overlooked by most
@MrGwaldo4 жыл бұрын
Guys That Drive tidy cup’s have risen in value recently. Agree that they’re great cars though and slightly lighter than the Trophy etc. due to the windows. No ABS either.
@GuysThatDrive4 жыл бұрын
Phil Wile no AC either. yes tidy ones have gone up in value but still considerably cheaper than trophies
@gandi694 жыл бұрын
Guys That Drive exactly you can have 9/10s of the fun of 182 trophy in 172 cup or a 182 with some different suspension modifications. Obviously it’s not withstanding the collector aspect here but for the driving pleasure it’s definitely up there. Plus you could spec a 182 with those seats and similar wheels though they are hard to find
@MrGwaldo4 жыл бұрын
gandi69 very true. You’d also feel less guilty modifying a non Trophy car. Mines standard apart from the Scorpion RS192 exhaust. Had the Sachs dampers serviced recently which is another cost associated with keeping the car tip top that isn’t an issue on the others.
@liamschannel62944 жыл бұрын
Just smashed through all 4 of your renault series and loved it mate! Can’t wait to watch the video on the mk2 astra tomorrow aswell but its bed time for me now as i set out to watch one video and ended up watching the four of them 😂
@JayEmmOnCars4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for binging :)
@liamschannel62944 жыл бұрын
JayEmm on Cars no problem mate! Always a pleasure👍
@waveneycroson47854 жыл бұрын
What a great car. Took it up Prescott, it was really at home there.
@cameronhall67334 жыл бұрын
Need to pull my phase 2 172 out the garage and give it some love. Absolutely hate the interior but love driving it.
@josefgordon77124 жыл бұрын
Man, that color does compliment the design rather smartly!
@donovandavies3542 Жыл бұрын
Jay your friend has a varied selection of modern classics
@wilf184 жыл бұрын
The seats are actually very good and very comfortable.
@grayfool4 жыл бұрын
I tried one once. I didn't have any money to spare at the time otherwise I would have bought it on the spot. Loved it, Loved it, Loved it! I've emigrated now so can't have one here. Bum, Bum, Bum!
@grahamsmith20224 жыл бұрын
Hammering around corners with 15 year old tyres would not have been a good idea.
@grahamsmith20224 жыл бұрын
@Az Lean age doesn't care if it's kept outside,inside or on the moon,tires/rubber and virtually everything else deteriorates regardless,in some cases more than others,the M.O.T tester only visually inspects the tire,they don't check the tire structure for integrity.
@TheRoverspeed4 жыл бұрын
@@grahamsmith2022 Whilst I wouldn't fancy 15 year old tyres myself. The most significant factor in aging of tyres if from UV damage from the sun. So being kept indoors would help with aging a great deal.
@tomast90343 жыл бұрын
till it smells like rubber its ok , if it aint got any smell then i start to be worried :D
@norbertcolon52153 жыл бұрын
To be honest the way those things go around corners he was nowhere near it's limit, that was fairly tame
@johnclucas15234 жыл бұрын
Being of that sort of age and inclination (and relatively limited budget) I've driven most of the hot hatches of that sort of period. I thought the 182 trophy was much the most engaging - my all time favourite hot hatch. My wife thought the ride in the back was awful so I didn't finish up buying one. On the other hand the - much vaunted at the time - Williams didn't set my world alight and I thought my 309GTi a much sharper tool despite what the press might have said at the time. Harry (and others) do however warn that the Trophy's secret weapon - the dampers - are expensive to maintain.
@EvoraGT4304 жыл бұрын
Must admit, I was not blown away by the WIlliams, either.
@Sir-Prizse3 жыл бұрын
I have a big place in my hearts for French hot hatches even though I grew up with a Golf 1 GLI. As my first car I imagine a Renault Clio IV.
@scottyp13483 жыл бұрын
Love that road in Herefordshire
@tomholton2354 жыл бұрын
Now I love my sport megane! Been in the garage for over a week getting a new lsd box checked over and a lightened flywheel and beefier clutch in. Cant wait to get it back and go for a blast as the Volvo v70 d5 I have been driving in the meantime isn’t quite hitting the fun factor fir me 😂. Would love one of these Clio’s but gonna have to go RWD next.
@SuperConor114 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️ viva la France, I have a 172 cup that’s not going anywhere
@garethwynn014 жыл бұрын
Broken down? 😂
@garethwynn014 жыл бұрын
Or do you mean you're hanging on to it?
@SuperConor114 жыл бұрын
Gareth Wynn 😂😂 hanging onto it, also it can’t break down if it doesn’t go anywhere 😂
@grahamnutt89584 жыл бұрын
That was a worthy inclusion so I'm glad this got into the mix. There is only one problem...... I have a feeling that the prices will probably go up once people watch this vid!!
@s_s_s_cars4 жыл бұрын
I hope so 😂😂
@wilfy77444 жыл бұрын
High miles one will set you back £5000 A medium miles one 60-80k will be £8000 To get a mint one with 20-30000 miles might set you back £12000-£15000 An ultra low miles pristine one £20000-£22000 They are great little cars I had a heavily modded 182 full fat with those recaro seats in and all sorts done to it It was simply fantastic fun As good as it gets really I should never have sold it
@woodsy5554 жыл бұрын
One the best hothatchs ever built
@Tomislav_B.4 жыл бұрын
I had a RS182 in liquid yellow back in the day, bought it brand new and it was in the garage from the day one. Faulty shock absorbers, hydraulic steering rack needed to be replaced, lambda sensor left me on the road, faux leather on the steering wheel chipping... Weird seating position and huge steering wheel didn't work for me and I sold it with a 25,000km and never looked back. I couldn't afford Honda Civic Type R, it was 7000€ more but a whole different ball game than Clio.
@bigginhillant4 жыл бұрын
iv been looking for a nice one of these for sometime now too i have the awsome megane r26r and that is also a mental capable car ya need too review one jay
@ApothecaryTerry4 жыл бұрын
Wait...this is the finale of the French cars? Does that mean no 306 Rallye!?! But...that's the best one!
@sparky48784 жыл бұрын
Even worse, no Bib’s 106 diesel?!
@BM_PAZ4 жыл бұрын
I was just about to write the same but the description says he was testing a quartet of Renaults so fingers crossed he tests it as the 306 Rallye is a fantastic car.
@javi184973 жыл бұрын
everyday i walk past a house and they have one, what a car!!
@jamesarcher53203 жыл бұрын
Loves the sound of his voice!
@runandraisans60553 жыл бұрын
Brilliant little gem had one really loved driving it so much fun
@JCW-jx6ld4 жыл бұрын
I had a 182 cup for 3 1/2 yrs paid 12.5 k new .Did Highland roads hundreds of times .Best bang for buck ever .
@bat33.122 ай бұрын
The quickest of all the 172/182 variants is the lightweight 172 cup. The Clio Williams is a full second slower from 0-60 compared to a 182 Trophy but the magic in the Trophy is the trick and very expensive sachs dampers, just having them rebuilt and serviced will set you back £1000.
@bcatz4544 жыл бұрын
Jay, reviewing all of my favourite frechies! These fetch for still a pretty couple of pennies. I would get a regular 182 for 1500-3k then spend the rest of the money saved on a nice set of coilovers and still be far ahead.
@JToroPaz2 жыл бұрын
100%, and its exactly what I did
@muzzman4 жыл бұрын
My mate just sold his two days ago, 120k miles for £6k. They still fetch a good amount
@tommymician1214 жыл бұрын
Wow, you could almost get the fantastic Fiesta ST for that much... But the Clio is much more special obviously, and not far behind in other areas either
@LivingLifeSlower4 жыл бұрын
That's buttons mate.
@zarrg14 жыл бұрын
@@tommymician121 Test drove a fiesta ST recently, and it seemed very dull in comparison to my 182. Is the ST's Electric power steering a problem? The ST is a 1.6(albeit turbo) compared to the 2 litre Clio lump, which is so responsive low down, great for those b roads, and the ST ride seemed less compliant. ST better built absolutely...but more fun? More fun than a Clio Trophy?
@billbrowning30214 жыл бұрын
You’re on a roll. Great videos!
@richardgoodman1310 Жыл бұрын
Really really want a Trophy! I have a clio 172 cup and have owned two 182s
@richardgoodman60713 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to take a 172 cup out let me know - enjoyed this video!
@rcnmoto15482 жыл бұрын
Ive seen lots of your content and "comments" on retro seats. My question would be how can you comment on such being the shape you are??
@beijingbond4 жыл бұрын
Harry got one. And kept it. Then gave it to his son. You want more? Read the Evo article in which a Trophy stuck to an M6 on some mountain roads (except on the straights of course). EVO Magazine Issue 83 September 2005
@beijingbond4 жыл бұрын
BTW, I owned a 172 Cup for 2 years then a 182 Cup for 8. Fantastic cars.
@s_s_s_cars4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic cars
@Dhamz904 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Integra Type R (DC2) and how it compares to the 182 Trophy.
@BarryThompsonUK4 жыл бұрын
The DC2 beat the Trophy in the EVO mag "fwd drivers car" test way back when. Both great examples of how to do fun fwd.
@jurassicmatt27964 жыл бұрын
DC2 is widely lauded as the absolute best FWD ever made.
@ldh2851 Жыл бұрын
Trophy is a better daily. DC2 there's not much go till about 6k rpm. I've owned both as standard and subtly modified both (intake/exhaust/remap/bushes/brakes/rear seat delete etc) The DC2 is (obviously) better built so is more reliable maintenance and rattle wise. The factory LSD makes a big difference and the gearshift is much better/accurate/more precise (rifle bolt action) in the DC2. DC2 is better/quicker on track in standard and modified form. Trophy's Sachs dampers are truly fantastic (when they aren't needing a refurb) the turn in / handling are fantastic! It will wash wide (understeer) on track with the open diff, but on the road it's more accessible fun than the DC2. Steering feel is very good on the 182, the steering wheel position and seating position aren't ideal though (you can fit Jon Foz lowering seat brackets and fit a suitably dished steering wheel) I imagine a Trophy with an LSD and the Brembos from the 197/200/Meg would be fantastic! Both are very expensive cars now, circa £20k for lower mileage decent examples (Nov 2022) Both are excellent. An RS Clio is still tempting as a daily, but the frequent maintenance required and image (boy racer) hold me back from buying another. The DC2 was truly special but is quite a niche car, with others being better as a daily or as a track car, plus the price they now command. If size isn't an issue then I'd recommend considering an FD2 or FK8 🏆
@englishnature78504 жыл бұрын
The French have always made good small cheap light cars. Have you driven a 205 1.9? if not i would love to hear your opinion as i haven't driven one in over 15 years.
@MrGwaldo4 жыл бұрын
English Nature I’ve got a 1.9 and a Trophy. The general feel is similar but the Clio is sharper and quite a bit faster. Also drove my friends Williams recently which kinda felt like the missing link. All darty little things.
@jeremywentworth1833 Жыл бұрын
Loved my 53 04 Clio 182, only 2 cars I've ever had that sort of upset me when I sold them , my 182 wasn't 1 of them but it's the only car I wish I'd never sold.
@thedetailingdoctor57464 жыл бұрын
How as the clutch we had one of these in a few months back loved the firm feel of the clutch and pressure plate was beautiful !
@sysakPL4 жыл бұрын
Having done many miles in London traffic with my 172 i beg to disagree. 😉
@thedrivebygg4 жыл бұрын
I owned the 172, great engine and fun to drive, agree the interiors are nasty
@MarkHossNorthwestrcclub4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to another great video
@muckspreader1able4 жыл бұрын
I had the RS200 cup.I have to say the better car .Better handling and looks.Please do that one
@s_s_s_cars4 жыл бұрын
Have you owned both cars?
@muckspreader1able4 жыл бұрын
@@s_s_s_cars no bit my friend had a 182 and it was fantastic but I preferred the set up of the rs200 Clio.Also looked better.
@Trophy_R4 жыл бұрын
Great car, have you ever done a feature on an R26.R ?
@mesco82004 жыл бұрын
Brilliant car 👍🏻
@mrmarrow89184 жыл бұрын
You weren’t going review the Trophy..?! Glad that didn’t happen, interesting review
@lukewatts32844 жыл бұрын
wish you could have reviewed a 197 as well I had one for a few years was very fun and actually pretty reliable apart from needing a few bits here are there that were due to hard cornering XD
@javonaziz53233 жыл бұрын
My car is also a 2005 Renault Clio... And that's where the similarities stop 😂
@CarsofGlasgow4 жыл бұрын
Great video, nice Clio
@darthwiizius3 жыл бұрын
Just buy a standard 182 and upgrade the suspension, simple and accessible. BTW there are other differences, the standard comes with climate control and plush leather half buckets. Yes I still own a 182, it's cheaply made out of mostly the type of plastic found in boxes of chocolates but it's the last great naturally aspirated hot super mini and in my view the best one. Grab one while they're cheap before the teens stick 'em ditches or blow the con rods through the block.
@DoubleDeckerAnton4 жыл бұрын
It's a nice looking car!
@OswaldoMartinezAviles Жыл бұрын
I had a silver one... Regret having sold it... Fun car to drive...
@Hali884 жыл бұрын
I know that road well, drove up and down in many times in my first car a mk3 fiesta
@antj293 ай бұрын
Wheels are different offset and trophy specific as lighter too
@MilitaryHistory20114 жыл бұрын
I've got a massive soft spot for these and I normally hate hatchbacks!
@markjones3384 жыл бұрын
Can you get a nice 80s xr3i to review
@JamieR19884 жыл бұрын
PLEASE REVIEW A HONDA CIVIC JORDAN!! MY 15TH TIME ASKING. AND I SHAN'T STOP UNTIL I SEE THE BRIGHT YELLOW INSANE VTEC BEAUTY ON HERE!!
@ChuckFickens19724 жыл бұрын
You do realise that he can't just make cars magically appear out of nowhere to review, Right? Do you know anyone who owns one and who would offer it up for review?? if you do why not speak to them and ask them to contact James.... Shouting all in CAPS doesn't make a car suddenly available for review, just makes you look a little childish.
@JayEmmOnCars4 жыл бұрын
No, people do not realise this
@mlawlan694 жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on KZbin but this is a good one. There is a little old dear in Leeds who owns one of these and drives it daily, but now that I am typing this I realise I haven't seen her around in it in a *very* long time, I hope she's ok, it always makes me chuckle, wonder if she knows what she has/had?
@user-vk4vd7vr5t4 жыл бұрын
The Jordan wasn’t anything special, it had half a Type R bodykit and a VTi-S engine
@Griphook14 жыл бұрын
You just need to drive a nice standard DC2 now JayEmm. That will top the lot :)
@000GunterGabriel0004 жыл бұрын
Because i own a small collection of drivers cars and buy/sell around two cars per year your videos are of real value to me. I wanted to become a member but that doesn't work somehow and so i want to send a one-time donation towards your way. Is there any way to donate you directly? Cheers
@RollieBeatz5 ай бұрын
I got a clio as a first car, noticed it could go very well on turns, now i cant run away from owning clios 😭😭😭 got a clio 2 and a clio 3
@pmrrmm4 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand having old tyres because they are original. It is not that hard to swap them and have them if you really want to have the original tyres and have piece of mind while driving
@mindspinn3114 жыл бұрын
My grail mid 2000’s car.
@TheStwat4 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show how power to weight works. And why people laughing at how little power older cars had 'back then' compared to today is silly. The Monteago Turbo had significantly less BHP, but was over a second faster to 60 and would beat this in all mid range acceleration statistics hands down. The Maestro Turbo even more so. They are only two examples, I know.
@jamesfzj24954 жыл бұрын
Do enjoy these got hatches, older ones seem so much more appreciative than new ones , 205 gti or astra gte next?
@jamesfzj24954 жыл бұрын
I guess my wish was your command 😂😂😂, p.s loving the reviews 👍
@DavidFerriday4 жыл бұрын
The only place I'd be demonstrating that car is to the tyre bay to get the rears changed.
@norbertcolon52153 жыл бұрын
I sold the one i'd had from new in March 21 with only 83k on it, i'm already looking for another one, biggest mistake ever selling it. To be honest i'd buy the car in this video without even thinking about it
@richard-bt1lq4 жыл бұрын
The standard 182 is perfect 🏴
@s_s_s_cars4 жыл бұрын
A standard 182 is a fantastic car but the Trophy is even better.
@richard-bt1lq4 жыл бұрын
No 👍🏴
@s_s_s_cars4 жыл бұрын
Have you driven both??👍
@richard-bt1lq4 жыл бұрын
No 😃
@richard-bt1lq4 жыл бұрын
Have u
@beauchamphuberville13554 жыл бұрын
harrys clio
@sparky48784 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Didn’t he buy the press car, the one he featured in the mag?
@JayEmmOnCars4 жыл бұрын
I think he did
@palethorpe014 жыл бұрын
I think his son owns it now.
@Rascularvideos4 жыл бұрын
JayEmm on Cars He did.
@tomclark6374 жыл бұрын
A shortened gearbox ratio and it causes nightmares even to more powerful cars.
@SamboKearney4 жыл бұрын
You gunna do the pug GT I’s mate :)
@Robcatist4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe it’s still got the original exhaust mine fell in half after 5 years.
@DaveSpecC4 жыл бұрын
The Trophy is a great car but they cost upto 4x as much as a Full fat, and they're not THAT much better, so no, on a budget it's a pretty terrible choice imo, good investment though. Loving all the Renault reviews though!
@mrc79664 жыл бұрын
I own a Trophy (and a Williams)...paid 5k for my Trophy and have to agree. The difference between any 172, 182, full fat, Cup or Trophy is too small to warrant a big difference. Actually for me, the 172 cup is the best drivers car. I love my Trophy and I like that the residuals are strong, although I will provably never sell it, but with 182's I would buy on condition rather than spec.
@patrickbateman71224 жыл бұрын
@@mrc7966 hello there! For me the best hot hatch I've ever driven is the Clio Williams so very jel that you have one. I've driven many a 172 but not cup or trophy. Weren't a patch on the Williams for me. Do you rate the 172 cup more than your Williams?
@sparky48784 жыл бұрын
Sitting having a coffee and this popped up. Clicked to view, only been up 20 seconds or so, no comments had been posted and already had a downvote. There are strange people about. Down voting in 20 seconds of an upload? Peugeot fanboys?
@palethorpe014 жыл бұрын
Even If I despised the car that was being reviewed, I still wouldn't give it a thumbs down.
@PT824 жыл бұрын
I think there are a lot of 'bots' about on KZbin. I always see loads of random comments that you can tell aren't from real people. Maybe there are down vote programmes also.
@sparky48784 жыл бұрын
PT82, sabotage from rival KZbinrs? Doug getting worried? (Just a joke before Doug fans pounce on me!).
@MrGwaldo4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got one of these and a 205GTi. No thumbs down from me.
@ApothecaryTerry4 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely a Pug fanboy and if this really is the French finale (meaning no 306 Rallye) then I'm very disappointed...but this video still gets a like, it's a brilliant 90s hot hatch, what kind of terrible person dislikes this?
@jimmyfarley55814 жыл бұрын
Lovely car. Wouldn't want 15 year old tyres on the rear though
@JayEmmOnCars4 жыл бұрын
The rears were newer
@projectnorahlyne10184 жыл бұрын
I have 4, 16 year old tyres on my Ep3. 🤩🤩
@jimmyfarley55814 жыл бұрын
@@projectnorahlyne1018 That's just dangerous. I had an EP3 that I supercharged to 340bhp. Spent thousands on it. Lovely car. Just remember that your only contact with the road is your tyres. 70% of your braking is your tyres. Especially if it's a performance car. How have the front tyres lasted you 16 years? I can only assume gears 2-6 don't work. Or you're a troll.
@projectnorahlyne10184 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyfarley5581 troll lol. No bud, the car is hardly driven to be honest & if it is driven, it not driven hard. Goes to a local show once a
@projectnorahlyne10184 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyfarley5581 sorry pressed wrong button lol. So it goes to a show once a year, then for mot & service. It only done 8k. But I will take your advise & get them changed 🤩🤩
@RobertBarrington3 жыл бұрын
Best Williams now more expensive than the best Trophy. Says it all really.
@120poundsound24 жыл бұрын
I had a pimped up 172 and it was a right hoot, mint on fuel, sounded ace but the gearchange/brakes and interior we're awful. Surprisingly realiable.
@mrc79664 жыл бұрын
Brakes are one of the best bits on 172/182's...I used to rate them for feel and stopping power up there with my 997 - 911 C2...wonder if something was going awry with yours...
@simonhughes73824 жыл бұрын
How funny, I hated my Renaultsport megane too! Amazed after all the hype. Worst car i've owned (275 Megane RS Trophy with the Ohlins and akrapovik). Would be interested in your thoughts as to why.
@patrickbateman71222 жыл бұрын
I hated my Meg 250 cup but adored the Clio Williams being imo 100x more fun to drive and a much more raw feeling..
@Bombastic_Spastic4 жыл бұрын
You need to get your hands on a 206 gti 180 for a comparison now
@AndresV01824 жыл бұрын
Those peugeots are to ugly
@AndresV01824 жыл бұрын
Except from the 306
@passion_forcars29333 жыл бұрын
I just finished build my track toy clio172 and so happy whit the car, not that good on fuel ahahahah
@AnthonyWilliams-vh1ds2 жыл бұрын
I paid £5250 for mine… Sold it for £5250 a year later… In 2010…. Now they’re about 3x the price I think…
@jimmyjt162 жыл бұрын
This or a Fiesta ST James? I've had few ST's, but never driven the Trophy.
@ett_baer2 жыл бұрын
I'm not James but honestly in terms of handling these Clios (even 172/182 standard) are so far above. I've had an ST150, ST180, a 986 Boxster S and my Ph1 172 is the best handling/most fun car of them all.
@jimmyjt162 жыл бұрын
@@ett_baer I've also had a Boxster S and found that car to have a very awkward driving position and little to no steering feel which is completely opposite to what reviews said, but I suppose handling is subjective. I personally think the ST180 is massively underrated and one of the best hatchbacks I've driven. I need to get myself in a Trophy, but good ones a going for silly money at the moment.
@ett_baer2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyjt16 Handling is objective, it sound stupid but roundabout top speed is a really easy test, because power doesn't come into the equation on a roundabout. (One of the main tests of a reputable geo setup company (center gravity) is a roundabout test!) I can't agree about the Boxster, something may have been off with the power steering in yours, I could feel every tiny little change in the road through my steering wheel, and the steering had very little assist, felt unpowered at a standstill. I found the ST180 the worst in terms of handling of the three of the above, but still a good chassis and good fun to drive. Don't go for a trophy! They are silly money and not worth the price hike over the others. A 172 or 182 with *NEW* 172/182 cup dampers and cooksport springs will put you on par with a trophy handling wise, I've driven both. The phase 1 172 is 60(!!)kg lighter than the 182 trophy, with the springs and shocks I mentioned and some camber bolts you will essentially have a car that's better handling than the trophy. I'm biased but I highly recommend the phase 1 over the later 172/182's if you can find one without rust, they come with way lighter (by almost 3kg a corner) alloys, and the cable throttle is a dream for response too.
@christineayres53394 жыл бұрын
The 182 here is actually faster than the latest version due to being 200kg lighter lol
@robtallentire10513 жыл бұрын
Loving the videos mate! Any chance of an ax gt, Leon fr or Leon cupra please??
@leeengland17489 ай бұрын
This or ep3 type r?
@chrismc19774 жыл бұрын
Top cars- just not quite as good as the best of all- the Integra DC2. Just that little bit more bespoke than a Clio with a big engine & trick suspension