Back when dirt bikes actually had side number plates
@EarthSurferUSA5 ай бұрын
I sure am not a fan of the modern "Batman" abstract art plastic on my functional dirt bike. I put on an older front fender (YZ250 2-stroke), and went "Ronnie Mac" on all the stupid arrow tips. I also got rid of the front number plate, (that looks like the arm shield for the God Thor), and just because it made me laugh, mounted a Frisbee in it's place. I could not find a good looking plate from the late 70's, was going to go Hannah, and my Frisbee is "quick release". :) I think KTM started the ugly plastic look.
@thenotoriousemblem29865 ай бұрын
@@EarthSurferUSAonce ktm bought husaberg they started the sharp fender trend.
@joeyschmidt75465 ай бұрын
they dont have sign number plates anymore?! damn i been out the game for a while my last bike i bought brand new was a 2006 crf250r off the show room floor dual exhaust it was $6,700 i think it was back then. was a really nice bike i dont see the new bikes being any better they seem to be damn near the same if not cheaper made now
@elegantfury34025 ай бұрын
My 24’ KTM has side number plates…
@Builders-fo9xc5 ай бұрын
Still riding 08 450R...still loving it since 08
@valentinorossi70195 ай бұрын
That was my favorite bike! I rode many different brands in that era. Ride Red !
@kelvis19805 ай бұрын
08 was the crescendo of Honda until recently. They actually tuned it down from the 07 and changed the fork angle and added a stabilizer. It hooked up better and didn't fatigue the rider as much. The 07 hit hard
@szabiracer5 ай бұрын
@@kelvis1980 best best crf450 2008(2007) frame+ktm sxf 350 2025 engine! :D
@TheyCallMeWook5 ай бұрын
Same here. I bought the black, special edition '08 450r and I still ride it to this day
@icool2473 ай бұрын
The special edition in black, I wanted that bike so bad
@Dirtbiker4life5 ай бұрын
If they came out with a new 07 model again I would go straight to the dealer to buy one no questions asked
@keithtarrier45585 ай бұрын
And it would suit, at the very minimum, 85% of all riders who buy a new 450 bike this year. The amount of riders who need these super "advanced" bikes the top 20 pros need is VERY few. BUT... bikes on the podium sell. That is how it is. Most people do not even need a new bike form the last ten years, other than maintenance and such if the old bike is abused before they buy it. A brand new 2007 would sell well... so go look at China... there are SOOOOOO may Hondas from 1988 XR250s to 2010 CR250R copies/fake bikes for sale! Many of them use mediocre metals, but they copied the engine parts 99% spot on. Just poor quality copy. SO yes, Honda could remake so many of the classic awesome bikes from 1985 to 2010 is they wanted. But it WOULD really hit new bike sales.
@maxbrown74815 ай бұрын
Just get the 24 Kawi 450... 6000 dallas! Vet bike
@DeathProof1325 ай бұрын
@@keithtarrier4558 the 07 CRF450 is still a much faster and more capable bike than most riders will ever be able to use fully
@Billy-burner5 ай бұрын
I would if it was a 2 stroke model.
@sn1perdude71105 ай бұрын
suzuki still does it, i heard ricky carmichael weas the first test rider for the 2024 rmz 450 all the way back in 2006!
@RedneckRIdersofPA5 ай бұрын
Anybody else think that the current bikes look like the generic bikes from our video games back in the day like mx vs atv
@gatsubasako25655 ай бұрын
you put the words
@DeathProof1325 ай бұрын
yup, the '07 honestly has a fresher and more modern design aesthetic in my eyes.
@Michigan_Angler695 ай бұрын
Any bike that’s older than 2015/2016 is just way better looking than modern day bikes by far tell me I’m wrong 🤙
@Damjansen5 ай бұрын
Well mx vs atv always had accurate looking bikes compared to real brands even had actual KTM in Reflex, till maybe later in mx vs atv games..
@BillyBoblovesthedirt5 ай бұрын
I have an 08 CRF and think the new bikes look amazing. I love older bikes but the new ones are the business.
@motopunk95165 ай бұрын
For years ive been saying the first generations of aluminium 4 strokes are more comfortable than new bikes and everybody's roasting me
@paulmryglod48025 ай бұрын
Nah youre right. I kept my 05 crf450. Exhaust, jetting and suspension for my weight, some durability stuff. Thats it. Love it and I dont need anything more.
@bobbybagadonuts99505 ай бұрын
F em, your right
@Superdisco1995 ай бұрын
Dude I have a garage full of 08's. I keep riding new bikes to find something I like better and I can't.
@bbb1295 ай бұрын
Got an 07 And I tell people (mostly myself) a new bike will not drop my lap times
@Davido505 ай бұрын
@@Superdisco199 '25 KTM 450SXF. Period. End of search. 💯
@ForestGuthrie5 ай бұрын
i had a 06 crf250r and my dad had a 07 crf450r back in the day. Great bikes miss them. My old 17 rmz 450 reminds me of the 07 crf450.
@vintagetrikesandquads40125 ай бұрын
I have an 02 CRF 450 in cherry condition--bought it new. I know they made some upgrades between mine and the 07, but it's still a better bike than I am a rider. That's why I never felt the need to upgrade.
@MrPostie255 ай бұрын
The most interesting 450 comparison I’ve seen in 20yrs
@daniel.ampcap5 ай бұрын
I love this review!! I was 16 back then and the 07 Honda was my first 450 when I switched from 250 2stroke! Had such a great time on it. This video brought back lots of good memories!
@eric6rock5 ай бұрын
Welp, soon enough we will have the vintage 450 class 😳
@Getonthebusgus1105 ай бұрын
I've still got my 2007 Crf450. The last race bike I ever had. Still starts within 1-2 kicks. Great bark. Great bike.
@g-sailing44275 ай бұрын
06-07 was prime MX! The bikes, tracks, riders, races, USA and Europe was brilliant!
@Lumpster1745 ай бұрын
I had a 2005 CRF450 that I bought new and just sold a few years ago. I don't see how a stock bike could be any better really. That bike was so easy to go fast on. I was jumping stuff I would never do in a matter of a few laps on that bike. I rode the wheels off that thing and did nothing but oil changes. I kick myself in the ass for selling it. I've ridden some newer bikes but haven't been as instantly comfortable on anything as i was on that 05. My buddy had an 07 and it was indeed a gem as well but his motor and suspension was done for him and i wasn't quite as comfortable on it.
@jpslaym09365 ай бұрын
07 is much better looking thats for sure
@bobbyrodrigue19855 ай бұрын
I have to agree
@andrewacton58855 ай бұрын
Also agree
@maverick22425 ай бұрын
07 CR 250 R was even better looking
@SurfRinseRepeat5 ай бұрын
Doesn’t look cheap like the 25
@christophervillarreal85655 ай бұрын
1000%
@SXF_turbo5 ай бұрын
Hey Keefer, cool review as always, but this one was kinda special to me. Started riding again in 2016 after a 12 year hiatus coming from 2 strokes from 1997 to 2004 and felt right at home on a 2007 CRF250 I bought back then to get back riding again. That bike was so easy to handle for me as a once-again-noob, that I bought an 08 250CRF after selling the 07 for a 17 SXF350 in 2018. I sadly just sold the 08 CRF250 because of a snapped rod and no time to do the work myself right now, but MAN I loved that bike so much. I even sold the 350SXF and just rode the old Honda everywhere I went. The chassis was so comfortable, the suspension was very plush and I could ride DOUBLE the amount per day compared to the 350. I think there will be a time in the future I start looking at an 07-09 once again
@scrappyjackalope95585 ай бұрын
It has a hot start lever. Not a decompression release. I saw you mention that in the first video when you grabbed the hotstart lever.
@ni72994 ай бұрын
Yeh. He said in the first video something about being on crack, so I let the hot start slide.
@JonathanCalkins2 ай бұрын
It has a compression release, but it's automatic in the cam.
@scrappyjackalope95582 ай бұрын
@JonathanCalkins he mentioned the lever on the bars, that is what is being discussed here. Again that is not a decompression release it is a hot start lever.
@jackmedford83695 ай бұрын
so cool to see how stoked he is in this episode
@dylanp92115 ай бұрын
Man the 07 looks amazing. The 25 looks great to but that 07 sounds and looks awesome. I'm in the market for another 450 and who doesn't want a brand new bike but i could get a 07-08 for half the price might have to. 🔥
@necromancer19765 ай бұрын
We make a kit to bolt on modern OEM plastics + seat.
@andystreet3395 ай бұрын
Been waiting on this since #TrackTalkers This should be good! Cheers 🍻 from Tennessee
@CreatureOfTheWheel5 ай бұрын
I had a 07 while racing A class in Texas. Put a PC A-kit fork/shock, rg3 clamps, and left everything else stock. Amazing bike. Best generation for Honda chassis.
@baggszilla5 ай бұрын
I had a 2006 Honda CRF250R and I loved it! Had to sell it but then a couple years ago I purchased a 2009 CRF250R and I love the way that thing rides!!! So controllable! This was great Keef! Cheers!
@daver24925 ай бұрын
Had an 08 450,true Cadillac of moto, trophied with it at Budds Creek, best time of my life
@JUSTINHAWKSMITH5 ай бұрын
Can we please get a 2007 YZ450f VS 2025 yz450f comparison !!!!!
@Superdisco1995 ай бұрын
Yeah the 2007 yz had a heaps plusher frame compared to the 07 crf. It was even great offroad.
@benott50805 ай бұрын
I really love this video because I'm about to put my 06 up for sale. Thank you Keefer!
@EdStevens-n8m5 ай бұрын
Lets see the lap times for each bike
@gumpycognac45055 ай бұрын
Probably not much difference
@andresbraun47185 ай бұрын
That 2006-2008 CRF 450 was (is) one of the best looking bikes ever.
@danparsons88315 ай бұрын
Ive had my 08 crf250r 12 years and havent even changed the clutch. Best bike to learn on. Got my son on the 09 and he loves it way more than fi bikes and yes its so plush!
@raymondsiewert27205 ай бұрын
Man that 07' is like brand new ! More offset on the clamps, but steeper rake. Makes it turn, but still be stable. 😊
@mrmm855 ай бұрын
So stoked you did this! I always wonder how the modern bikes compare the bikes from 10+ years ago and whether the average punter would notice much difference.
@jedielder79705 ай бұрын
Watching you ride, it seems/looks like the 2025 looks more "alive..." more flickable, lighter, etc. You said the '07 corners better, but it didn't look like that. Also, the 2025 looks more narrow. As far as overall looks, the '07 looks better IMHO. Hey, I think my bro has an '07 (or within a couple of years) in his garage, I'll get him to watch this and keep that old beast. Thanks for doing this, Keefer!
@MasonMcNabb4 ай бұрын
My 2016 Rmz450 has that old style Suzuki frame and I just love it. Nothing like the older bikes…. People don’t realize it, but the manufacture nailed some of this old stuff
@AverageBikeGuy5 ай бұрын
Awesome review !!!! We love this , so much better than 2025 vs 2025 .
@Levi_LaVallee5 ай бұрын
I had an 08 and I loved it! I remember chasing my tail trying to get the 2011 to work and ultimately never getting it close to the 08.
@rydencunningham89385 ай бұрын
The 07 ford super duty in red driving behind in the beginning is so fitting
@fasterthanyou76055 ай бұрын
Keep it up Keef
@eddiecruz55915 ай бұрын
There's no manual de compression! That's a hot start.
@johnrussell63985 ай бұрын
You're are right! I had a 06'; what a fun bike!!
@colinbox34725 ай бұрын
Best test ever thank you
@stewart3044 ай бұрын
I love these kind of reviews! Thank you!
@Dirt_Bike_Dave5 ай бұрын
Keefer, I 100 % agree with you on if Honda would remake these 06-08 models and drop the price to say 7k they would sell them all. The 450's always had enough power for weekend warriors anyway. Well done 👏 👏👏
@chrisplett3 ай бұрын
Nice, I had a 07, 08, 09. And now just bought a 25. I’ve thought about this a lot myself. The 07 was always my favourite bike but do love the 25
@destinyjacobs81475 ай бұрын
That gen yzf was really good too
@silver.d15 ай бұрын
as an 08 yz450f owner I can relate, I love this bike, super easy to ride and the KyB suspension is just amazing.
@Minegun35 ай бұрын
@@silver.d1 when i was in hs, i had moved over to a 06yz125 from a kx100. I was at croom in FL, i got to test ride a 08yz250f while i was there. I almost didnt want to give the bike back. i knew i was going to have issues againt the 250fs. but that 08yz250f felt easyyy to ride compared to the 125 at the time.
@Superdisco1995 ай бұрын
Everything in 2007 was better than now.... except KTM.😅
@Catalyst5125 ай бұрын
i honestly like the look of the older bike far better. the side plastics along with the general way the bike is just appeals to me better. i have an 05 crf 450r and i love it
@fincavillamallorca26555 ай бұрын
ABOUT KICKSTART: if you have trouble starting your bike, change the decompressor spring!!! And kick it smoothly, not hard. Those tiny springs get old and the decompressor does not work. I still got my 250r 2007 and still raced it in 2021 and got a podium ❤ my bike is stock, only the fork is revalved, and works really great.
@joelboutier17365 ай бұрын
Damn. That thing is a time machine. It’s still a beauty. I love it
@gekcee32665 ай бұрын
I own an 07 450. Had it since it was on the showroom floor. It's easily the best stock bike I've ever ridden. A pipe and some suspension was all u needed.
@scottpeters86405 ай бұрын
My brother had a sweet 2005 CRF 450 done with Factory Connection suspension. While I am only a C-class guy at best, I feel confident that I would go just as fast around a normal MX track on that bike as I do riding the current 450's, which I have ridden a couple just last year so I know how they run. It's the rider that matters for most of us anyway.
@paulmryglod48025 ай бұрын
I have the same bike, same suspension. Im 41 now and i love the bike so much i kept it. I raced fully built 125s and 250s and the 05 with suspension is better in every way.
@JoelMcGuire-dv8wy5 ай бұрын
I had a 2008 CRF450R and absolutely loved it. Made the mistake of putting straight pump gas in it, which ruined the carb and made it impossible to kickstart. When I was running straight VP, it was the perfect motocross bike. I had to do full Stage 3 Yosh engine mods to get my 2013 CRF450's motor to match the 2008's stock motor.
@mxmarvin3 ай бұрын
I had an '06 CRF450. My all time favorite motocross bike
@max15495 ай бұрын
I’m with you on power and comfort, all my recent bikes have been ridden on the mellow map 90% of the time. Just the easiest to go fast and feel more comfortable
@pauloneill25305 ай бұрын
I have a 04 crf250r that I race in period 20 vxc class & I still love it to bits & ride it more than my 2024 model 250r
@benjbuch5 ай бұрын
This is why I retain my 2008 CRF250R with revalved suspension. I love the plushness for my aging ass and gription for dayssss
@dirkharvey5 ай бұрын
I've wanted to see a test like this since probably 2010. Now lets see lap time comparison!
@lauriehodgson44715 ай бұрын
Yeah, lap times would be the icing on the cake! The 07 wouldn't be to far off I reckon?
@kerripolk5 ай бұрын
Great video good job!!
@JonnyJetson7545 ай бұрын
Awesome more of these vids 🎥🚲💨
@TheBnb89Ай бұрын
My bikes I ride to this day are my 06 CRF450R and my 01 CR250R. Both amazing bikes!
@jdsaw1005 ай бұрын
Thank you very much 😊..
@jmx3185 ай бұрын
How would the 07 450 go against a 2025 250?
@Joe-pg3kg5 ай бұрын
This is why I really like the newer Kawi’s they feel a lot like my 06 Honda chassis wise.
@KlintonSilvey5 ай бұрын
I never had more confidence charging into bumpy rollers or braking bumps than I did on my 08
@benbarry85984 ай бұрын
I have an 07 YZ450F and, by al means I am no pro, but I am able to ride that bike forever because it is so stable and comfortable.
@dnrcustoms065 ай бұрын
Very cool, thanks for doing this comparison.
@seagoulcoulberg5 ай бұрын
I bought one of those mythical sleds brand new back in the day. What a great bike
@2WheelKam5 ай бұрын
Great video! Loved the comparison looking back to an all time great. It’s like seeing Jett Lawrence vs Kevin Windham
@TheLeoborges5 ай бұрын
High honestity testimonial. Loved!
@sleepsound31075 ай бұрын
What a find! Zeb is the man!
@mx_guy91825 ай бұрын
I love how much louder these era of 4 strokes are love it
@johnmcginnis27055 ай бұрын
Yes I was just thinking that reliving the glory days
@metrolakes91095 ай бұрын
That front disc guard while riding thooo 👌⚔️
@JanASS19915 ай бұрын
I've never been a Honda guy but I need to admit that 07 CRF is a bike that didn't get old comparing to other bikes from that era.
@JeahnLaffitte3 ай бұрын
Just sold my ‘06 this year 😭 Miss it so much
@atlanticdiesel2 ай бұрын
Had a 2007 crf450r back in the day and I absolutely loved every second on that bike. Recently got a 2012 model and I'm getting familiar with it, but the 2007 was definitely more user friendly. The FI is definitely nice though. All around they are great bikes. Also, this is coming from a die hard Yamaha guy 😂
@2strokeboys1915 ай бұрын
Had 3 different 06 Honda variations, favorite era for me
@robd2275 ай бұрын
I'd love to own one of these again but the rebuild costs and parts for 4 strokes are just insane. I'm loving my YZ250 but it would be great if all the manufacturers came out with 2 smokers again.
@seatroutadventures94925 ай бұрын
I´m so lucky to have a 2008 CRF450R in my garage. Will never sell it :) Have rebuild the suspension and now running with Gold Valves from Race Tech.
@thatalaskaguy5 ай бұрын
Not saying the ‘25 isn’t improved but seriously, it hardly looks any different. Take a ‘67 MX bike and compare it to an ‘85 model and the advancement is readily apparent and mind blowing. Current MX bike development is practically stagnant.
@JacksonD4895 ай бұрын
I've been saying this for some time now!
@microsoft7905 ай бұрын
Anyone but me interested in variable valve timing on MX bikes? Double wishbone front suspension?
@DragonFury-gq5zo5 ай бұрын
@@microsoft790 It would be interesting but would sky rocket prices for the new bikes. We want to bring the costs down. Also how would double wishbone work on a bike 😂
@microsoft7905 ай бұрын
@@DragonFury-gq5zo Honda Gold wings and some BMWS use double wishbone front ends.
@Thebigjaunt5 ай бұрын
More riding footage on the 07 dawg! Sick video. Just did a similar thing with my 05 250f I raced Loretta’s on back in the day. Got about 3 people that watch my stuff though haha.
@shanesmith80885 ай бұрын
Turn the traction control up on the '25 and you will feel a ton more rear wheel connection!
@iRyan8762 ай бұрын
Ill take the 07. Anyday. It just looks way better. Its a real dirt bike look to me 🎉
@Rocketman1000RАй бұрын
Awesome review! I have a 08’ 450X and wondered how viable the R was in comparison to the 25’ R.
@lmtada5 ай бұрын
I have a 08 CRF450R, 07 CRF450X, and a 2025 CRF450R on order. Deposit down. All the bikes are so good nowadays. You can’t go wrong with any brand. Find a good dealer, gain a friend. Ride. Enjoy what two wheels are like. Rail those Berms……yahoo. 👍🏁
@Motosportz5 ай бұрын
Nice work, both of you. Keefer and Simon make for a good vid. I like that there was not to much ride footage, its fun but does not really tell you much about the subject. Hi Simon. - Kelly
@SwingArmCity5 ай бұрын
This was back in the dreaded valve problem days. Had an 05 crf450r and 07 crf450x both had valve problems.
@bobetts27485 ай бұрын
Right on and right on! 👍
@markwgundert42515 ай бұрын
I can't believe this comparison was even possible...my last bike compared to my next bike 👏
@KyleSchwanz5 ай бұрын
Also, I had the 07 crf250r and it was sick!!!
@Turtle110863 ай бұрын
not that ive ridden many bikes but my 06 (maybe its an 07 i recently found out) is still my favourite bike to date, its going to take some work to get my 22 FE450 to the point im happy with it.
@HurricaneJesus695 ай бұрын
Great video man! This was such a great idea! Making me feel real nostalgic..
@chemdawg3854 ай бұрын
I miss those red bikes with the white plates and wing shaped radiator shrouds. Still love everything two-wheeled but current bikes along with all the E-bikes nowadays look like they could be featured in a Transformers movie.
@jaysan73165 ай бұрын
Pretty Sweet Comparison!! I still have stock cRF 2006 and runs great!!
@MAGA-2A5 ай бұрын
Now Facebook market people going to want more. adding a lectron carb bike is amazing
@ricknoonan94515 ай бұрын
i have an 08 that i have set up for the ice. great bike, really like it 👍
@lmtada5 ай бұрын
You crazy guy. Don’t run to be run over by you. 👍
@andrewwhittle19685 ай бұрын
Time to get the 2008, out of the shed and rebuild.
@undergroundupholstery5 ай бұрын
We need way more of these head to heads. Mod the 07 and re test to a stock 25
@nathantrost77735 ай бұрын
Hey you talked about the feel and the suspension a lot, but what about the new bike being fuel injected ? Pros and cons ?
@barrycuda37694 ай бұрын
Some people laughed at me having a 1986 CR 250 when It was only four years old. Now that it's 38 years old , plenty of people would want it.
@BuckingFastard5 ай бұрын
I had a 2007-8 can’t remember. I just remember it was literally my favorite bike I’ve ever owned besides my 2014 yz250 2 stroke.
@mtbfiend41705 ай бұрын
Love my 07 450r 🤘🏽
@rfvc600r5 ай бұрын
I have 2008 CRF450R forks on my '83 Honda XL600R, turned it into a totally different bike. Eats whoops for days
@tprice3235 ай бұрын
As someone with an 07 450, handling is great, EFI would be great for safety, but the engine is far more powerful than 99% of consumers need.