Very common problem with the fuse box thats used in a few GM vehicles
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@jmot484 жыл бұрын
This was it ! It is exactly what happened with my 2009 Buick Lucerne. I am very thankful for this video. When I ordered the new fuse box from my local GM dealer they said there was a notice about this, and even printed off a memorandum from GM about it, with some other recommended modifications to make so it doesn't happen again. Has to do with the seat latch. You're a great guy for making this video. Thank you.
@BigTravGill4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help out...and yes I forgot to mention that seat latch part....sorry about that. I trimmed this one back a bit to solve the problem.
@shanatasharp93123 жыл бұрын
I have a 2008 Buick Lucerne and I'm having this same problem with my car could you give me the number for GM dealership
@thomasmadden2258 Жыл бұрын
When did gm do recall on it
@thomasmadden2258 Жыл бұрын
Fuse box burn out the fuel pump burns up to gm replace it fuel pump too
@CortezAutoServiceMobile3 ай бұрын
I just came across this and found this exact issue. I told customer fuse box needs to be replaced. But since I got the car running he said he will do it later. Hopefully he doesn’t make that decision when he’s stuck on the side of the road
@pressleyjrgasque4935 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip.Have the same car going through the same problem.Your video was really helpful. 👍👍
@kevincrocker82064 жыл бұрын
This video was a God send I was stuck two hours away from home because of this issue pulled up your video and was able to fix the problem to get home thank you so much
@BigTravGill4 жыл бұрын
Im glad i was able to help..!
@jerry-gy9vw4 жыл бұрын
I have this exact car and with exact problem fixed it the way you said grinded down hooks ..no problems now thanx Bud!
@DavidFlores-rr5jt Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your help! I was procrastinating on fixing mine because the thought of running diagnostics on this car was a headache. Saw your video just now and checked and lord and behold it was that exact problem. Went to the dealership to order a brand new one 🎉
@BigTravGill Жыл бұрын
I'm glad this helped you out..! I still get these cars coming in to this day with this problem and the only correct way to fix it is a new fuse box.
@jaimiehuynh20232 жыл бұрын
That was it I had to replace the whole box but I'm a GIRL! I know very little about cars but my Mom taught me to listen and learn Thank you
@kevinsanders9978 Жыл бұрын
Good advice. In addition, cut some of the metal seat cushion clip off and get a low fuel pump fuse to put in the new replacement box. If now you will have the same issue. Since I did that, no more issues in 3 years. Car runs like a champ.
@bgeo565 жыл бұрын
Nice video man! Very helpful, very well done. Thanks
@greeneyedbandit56294 жыл бұрын
Bob George!! I just replaced mines!! Excellent video!! Saved me a lot of money 💰!!!
@radvalve2056 жыл бұрын
Had same issue with mine, 2008 buick CXL 3.8, they wanted 300 dollers for new fuse box!! I disconnected the wires from fuse box (solid gray wire and green wire with white strip) put a inline fuse (20 amp) on the gray wire an connect to pin number 30 on relay, it goes to fual pump, the fuse should be as close as possible to the relay connection. The green wiire with white strip is the pcm wire an it connects to pin 85 on relay. Run a fused wire (20 amp) from battery an connect to pin 87 on relay (constant power) the fuse should be as close as possible to battery connection! Theres one pin left on the relay, run a wire from it to battery ground. Remove the 20 amp fuse pointed out in the video its no longer needed, if you bought a new relay (not good to use old one) remove old relay pointed out in video no longer needed. i bought connectors an crimped on wires then slid onto relay pins an tape up good with electrical tape, you dont want pin connections to make contact with anouther pin or touch something metel under the seat! Make sure you identify each wire (pin 87, pin 85 an so on incase you ever have to replace relay) been driving for 3 or 4 years now an no issue, saved myself 300 bucks! make sure you disconnect battery while doing all of this! FYI Iam a 50 yr old guy thats been working on my own cars all my life not a certified mechanic, just did my own research an got my car back on the road.
@joe-ku5hd5 жыл бұрын
Gmail bulletin says you should also cut end of clip that goes into slot to hold seat .cut off about 1 inch to avoid clip arcing with relay.
@SimplyASweetHeart5 жыл бұрын
Rad val can u help me?
@jebstuart71663 жыл бұрын
Just had this problem. Thanks for this video.
@markwilliams84885 жыл бұрын
Our 2008 Lucerne has no issue concerning this. I just checked...slight contact marks found on fuse box cover...pulled the seat and grabbed a hacksaw. 4 minutes later seat hanger tabs were history. Additionally, I checked the "tall" OEM fuel pump relay. It was tight with zero discoloration, so I guess we dodged that bullet. Keep a close eye on your battery. If you're on a budget and purchase the cheapest lead-acid you can afford, check that battery several times a year for leakage / seat foam deterioration due to "off-gassing." BTW, the Buick just hit 70K and I assume this might happen more frequently to high mileage Lucernes.
@bigguyoutdoors75544 жыл бұрын
just FYI, batteries for the Lucerne should have a vent hose to prevent off-gassing inside of the vehicle. try not to break the plug off when removing/installing a new battery.
@user-hm8cf7jl7k6 ай бұрын
There is also a stubby low profile relay that replaces the original one They are getting harder to find they also recommending cutting the seat bracket from the inside out about 15 mm so it doesn’t put pressure onto the fuse box itself
@chaseww3 жыл бұрын
Also when you pull your fues box lid open to access the fuses and relays you will hit the back of the relay that keeps burning out so make sure you'll hold both clips on each side push down the clips of the lid then pull the lid straight up because if you do one side at a time I guarantee you you're going to move that relay and it's going to loosenet connection up on the relay. It's a good tip that I gave you because a lot of people do it that way and they keep opening the fuse box up and hitting the back of the relay and moving it around and causing it to loosen so make sure you pull the lid straight up
@kdtj93184 жыл бұрын
You saved me a lot of money sir
@darrens13225 жыл бұрын
Also need to cut the seat bracket back about 5mm so it doesn't happen again. And you can purchase a low profile relay.
@BigTravGill5 жыл бұрын
This car had already had it trimmed but you brought up a great point that I forgot to mention
@ononaokisama4 жыл бұрын
Good idea bro 👍🏽
@bwd19633 жыл бұрын
I saw another video wich had a tsb sheet on doing exactly this too ,i gotto do all this too 🙁
@99SVTBolt2 жыл бұрын
So if the bracket was already trimmed and it shorted out, then trimming the bracket won’t do anything. 🤷🏻♂️
@newyork77 Жыл бұрын
My 2010 Buick Lucerne's Super fuse cover had two areas where it was rubbing. The front area of the cover near the metal latch which pushes against the fuel pump relay. I just bent back the metal near the latch with a pair of pliers. Also the top of the fuse box had minor wear, where it was making contact with the bottom of the back seat where there is metal located in the foam. Weight from the rear passenger pushes down the foam and metal on top of the fuse box which presses down on the fuel pump relay. I haven't tried to bend the thick wire located in the area of the foam on the bottom of the seat as of yet. But will figure it out soon.
@davidsullivan93142 жыл бұрын
I'm having the same issue right now but GM said that they have no knowledge of a recall with this situation
@BigTravGill2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something GM would say lol... they may call it a service bulletin for the techs... replace fuse box then trim metal on the bottom of the backseat near fuse box
@rm250886 ай бұрын
My 08 DTS has this problem. They don't make new boxes anymore. Bought a used one that isn't burnt up and I am waiting for it to come in.
@BigTravGill6 ай бұрын
I just found that out on the boxes. Its hard to believe its been 5 years ago when I made this video
@rm250886 ай бұрын
@@BigTravGill yeah it sucks. So you pretty much are gambling on if the used one is good or not. We will see. If not I will just bypass the fuse box all together.
@BigTravGill6 ай бұрын
Yea man and Im still in business working on cars and let me tell you I'm shocked on how many cars I cant get parts for. I needed a high pressure line for a 1999 Mustang GT a few months back and I had to get one made... could no longer get the one I needed @@rm25088
@rm250886 ай бұрын
@@BigTravGill it is a shame. I would of preferred a new fuse box instead of a used one
@user-hm8cf7jl7k6 ай бұрын
Did you ever check the temperature of the relay while it’s in use. When mine was malfunctioning, it was up in the mid 150s. Some of the research showed it needed to be in the 80s I rebuilt my fuse box by disassembling it along with another one that I had years ago and I replaced the pins and cleaned it and polished the receiver sections I’m now in the 120s as far as temperature. I’m wondering if you can help me with this to make sure the relay is not still overheating
@Majicman1873 жыл бұрын
Much love brotha thx for the awesome video!
@chaseww3 жыл бұрын
You can also grind down the seat where it latches in that area and it won't hit that fuse anymore
@thomasmadden2258 Жыл бұрын
They also take need to put fuel in at the same time because burns fuel pump out to plus the fuse box
@dtizzy8092 ай бұрын
Do you know anything about the also infamous engine stalling out when shifting from reverse to drive on these? 2008 cxl with 125,000.
@tyler26104 жыл бұрын
According to the service bulletin, you are supposed to trim the bracket so it won't continue to rub on the box. Otherwise in time it will just happen again.
@MrTeatreeoil4 жыл бұрын
Once that Iron metal for the rear seat touches the fuses in the electrical fuse box it blows out the whole electrical fuse box I owned a 2008 & 2011 buick lucerne
@kennethnapier1314 жыл бұрын
The so-called technical bulletin was to cut off part of the seat bracket, and a new low-profile relay. Frankly, bend the bracket 90-degrees is fine. I wrote this problem up and submitted to the NTSB. The real problem lies in the design of the fuel management system. When a fuel pump begins to enter its end of life, it begins to draw more current, it is this current that causes this problem. Most people that have this melted fuse box, will undoubtedly have a fuel pump sending unit failure soon after. The fuel system in this vehicle runs continuously when the engine is running and as the pump motor begins the fail, it draws an increase in current, not enough to blow the fuse, but, high enough to cause significant heat. Enough heat to melt the connectors inside the fuse block and the relay itself. Frankly, this is simply a poor design change. Older systems the pump cycles on and off to maintain the pressure and using a pressure regulator. Just be aware, it is your fuel pump that causes this fuse box problem to show up.
@sahar_ram4 жыл бұрын
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@SG-wv7qu4 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue... What's the part called and where can I order it from do you have a website or can I get it from the place you got your part from. Plz help
@asid73111 ай бұрын
Did the new fuse box come with fuses and relays?
@BigTravGill11 ай бұрын
Yes it comes with everything
@asid73111 ай бұрын
@@BigTravGill thanks
@mr.randomreviewguy52495 жыл бұрын
My car has been driving fine is having a no crank just a click and it has a good battery I'm lost
@Daveedv7k4 жыл бұрын
Same here 🙃
@heemywifdabars123 жыл бұрын
Same
@WinstonLiftz3 жыл бұрын
Same..I've been messing with the fuses and relay switches under the hood and now it works fine.
@mr.randomreviewguy52493 жыл бұрын
@@WinstonLiftz Turns out the car just doesn’t like getting wet for me
@WinstonLiftz3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.randomreviewguy5249 well literally yesterday it basically died on me. I'm going to go get an alternator and see if that's the issue.
@amasterofbation10 ай бұрын
Is that number still valid on your vehicle? I have a 2006 Lucerne with a starting problem and was wondering if you’d be around to help
@kyleballow92899 ай бұрын
you should drop the link to where you buy the parts and pieces so the viewer can find these parts you recommend
@BigTravGill9 ай бұрын
No link... I just go to my Local GM dealer on these
@normcarguy45713 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info very good this will help lots people
@cesarvega5070 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@ananjonathan Жыл бұрын
my 2009 is doing this i got a replacement fuse box same as you but my mechanic needs the grey parts that go on the underside and i dont know what that is called and i cant find it online anywhere please help
@garyanddoris60223 жыл бұрын
Mine is kinda doing the same thing , but whats crazy pulled it in the driveway run like a new one turned it off went to get back.in turn the key on to crank let off the key keeps cranking unless I turn the key completely off, did this one that ????
@kevoh48994 жыл бұрын
Please tell me which Gm dealer I looked up a few and only the under the hood fuse box is coming up please help
@yahusefbenyisrael87056 жыл бұрын
what about the seat buckle being shaved
@BigTravGill6 жыл бұрын
This car had already had it trimmed but you brought up a great point that I forgot to mention...
@briancardona28845 жыл бұрын
Travis Gill so should the bracket be trimmed after installing the fuse block or no?
@almackie6104 Жыл бұрын
the seat aint the issue. i did all that before the issue and i still got it.
@googiemike15373 жыл бұрын
Thank you. My fuel pump was covered under warranty but not this? I dont get that. Im doing THIS myself
@kinbarber60743 жыл бұрын
I need an accurate part number
@wrenchedfor30wrench204 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@dougmottert22583 жыл бұрын
Did you trim the seat bracket and put the low profile fuse in so it does not happen again?
@BigTravGill3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Madswacky Жыл бұрын
New wiring isn’t necessary for this install is it?
@BigTravGill Жыл бұрын
No sir its normally fine... just the fuse box
@MrTeatreeoil4 жыл бұрын
I purchased a new fuse box from the GM Dealer 5 months ago and the fuse box still went out
@devinlarew2027 Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is we have to pay for there mistakes they should have to pay for the replacement parts and labor
@denisesmalls22554 жыл бұрын
My car stalls before it cranks up why is that?
@techthirteen5 жыл бұрын
is it repairable?
@almightyyjuice4246 Жыл бұрын
What website did you go on to get this and what should I type in because there’s nothing popping up when I search for it
@BigTravGill Жыл бұрын
On these I go straight to the dealer so I know my customer is good to go...!
@rayspasov1398 Жыл бұрын
How much is fuse box from GM?I have 08 Buick Lucerne CXL,
@BigTravGill Жыл бұрын
you have to call your local GM place... they range all over here go figure
@happygoodman88273 жыл бұрын
can't seem to find that fuse box...any help appreciated
@BigTravGill3 жыл бұрын
under the rear seat
@JAMsr65 жыл бұрын
Mine is randomly stalling while driving but after a while starts back up should I replace the relay or whole box
@raidersmajr41315 жыл бұрын
Replacing the relay is only temporary eventually it will burn out again
@curtisdavis99012 жыл бұрын
Anybody have the number for the new low profile relay?
@jamesh68462 жыл бұрын
So am i correct in assuming that once this happens it is best to replace the entire box as once the relay goes it will just keep happening?
@BigTravGill2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir..! the box is no longer reliable
@jamesh68462 жыл бұрын
@@BigTravGill that would explain my 3rd relay ive put in it
@jamesh68462 жыл бұрын
@@BigTravGill is there a way that one could by pass said relay?
@BigTravGill2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesh6846 I cant do that here because its customers cars.. however the factory wanted it... I do lol
@jamesh68462 жыл бұрын
@@BigTravGill was thinking about for my own personal car 🤣🤣
@johnnyrouse2713 Жыл бұрын
What was the full price of the fuse
@BigTravGill Жыл бұрын
It’s best to call your local GM dealer because they range in price
@cayewest58226 жыл бұрын
I came across a issue the place where the fuel pump relay is supposed to be is blank?!
@RChayes717885 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the wrong fuse block, did you get it from the dealer after you gave them your VIN?
@DJDionP5 жыл бұрын
I think I'm having a very similar issue, same car same year. You mentioned there was a recall but I've searched my Vin and can't find any info on it. Could you give me more info? My relay looks just like that one. I've been told by two dealers that there was no recall.
@TeeroyHammermill4 жыл бұрын
No recall was issued for this problem. Just a TSB and some refunds on repairs from GM if the vehicle was under 10 years old.
@christinabenham22442 жыл бұрын
Ughhh my car doin the same thing how much is the box and what would somebody charge me to put it on
@BigTravGill2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say what a shop would charge because I do no mark up parts... My guess is between $500 and $700
@williamduignan69563 жыл бұрын
There's more to the recall repair than just changing the fuse box
@BigTravGill3 жыл бұрын
Trim the part of the seat or bend it.... Yes I mentioned it
@marcdenen61603 жыл бұрын
Wire in your own Larger relay out side the old fuse box. The new factory box has the same cheap plastic and will melt. 25 dollars and your done.
@carloslagos46773 жыл бұрын
Can u elaborate a bit more please
@kevinolsen57783 жыл бұрын
Yes
@davidkline032 жыл бұрын
PROBLEM IS RELAY IS OVERHEATING, POOR DESIGN BY GM IN HAVING SAME ISSUE, CAR DIES ON ME WHILE DRIVING.
@christinabenham22442 жыл бұрын
So did you fix the problem cuz I'm having the same problem in my 2008
@davidkline032 жыл бұрын
@@christinabenham2244 actual problem was the PCM ,I bought it online, expensive, but solved the dying issue. Also must have it programmed by a mechanic. "Good advice"install yourself, then have mechanic program it! It'll save you another 300 or so.
@davidkline032 жыл бұрын
The fuse block is a problem that eventually you'll need to address as well.
@davidkline032 жыл бұрын
Also bought online
@dtpropertyservice79734 жыл бұрын
But is it still goin to mess up
@BigTravGill4 жыл бұрын
Nah...I mentioned later about the shaving of the seat bracket that rubs..should be ok
@TeeroyHammermill4 жыл бұрын
>DT Property Service: It'll burn up again if your fuel pump is bad.
@yahusefbenyisrael87056 жыл бұрын
im having this same problem
@donandjune8 ай бұрын
I just bought a new vehicle and it was not G. M
@bigrob09204 жыл бұрын
I changed my fuse box on my 2011 Lucerne and now my heat and air won't blow
@BigTravGill4 жыл бұрын
thats strange....never had that happen here..well at least yet lol
@almackie6104 Жыл бұрын
bet it burnt out again.
@BigTravGill Жыл бұрын
No it did not... my customer still sees me to this day and his wife still drives the car