Not sure if Anyone will read this but you can double nut the transmission mount upper stud and remove it completely, so you won't have to pry the mount out at all.
@feyrbandАй бұрын
do you know the size/thread on that nut? assuming you still need to support the transmission?
@AutoTechWorld_DIY Жыл бұрын
Torque Specs: Rearward control arm bushing bolt: 103 ft-lbs Both front facing control arm bolts: 148 ft-lbs Right side engine mount bracket (the 3 bolts): 40 ft-lbs Engine mount nut (either side): 73 ft-lbs That may help someone. God bless.
@nme5238 Жыл бұрын
2 ugga duggas with impact and u should be fine 😅
@fosgate3758 ай бұрын
Probably so but torque specs are very important. Once you see the damage that's caused by a bolt coming loose because it wasn't torqued properly, you will understand why things are tightened usine a certain number of ft-lbs and not "ugga duggas". @@nme5238
@RxRau-kg9ot3 ай бұрын
Awesome! I'm going to try this tomorrow and your info arrived just in time!
@dv4908 Жыл бұрын
I just went for an oil change and the mechanic diagnosed a bad control arm on my sienna. Quoted me $2150 for a replacement on the passenger side. The part itself cost $75 online and it can be done by an amateur mechanic wannabe like me in about 2-3 hours MAX. I suggest everyone out there start to learn how to turn some wrenches and stop getting RIPPED OFF
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
The issue with taking to a shop is they are going to charge you the job rate. Technically Toyota recommends to remove the front subframe to do this job and the job rate for hours reflects that and that's what a shop is going to charge. From videos on KZbin..there ways around that like what I did. Like you said, just need the right tools and some decent mechanical common sense and you can do this job. Glad you found this video and hope it helps.
@ronaldchan3401Ай бұрын
Search youtube , another guy took out the passenger side lower control arm in 5 minutes.
@autlan693 ай бұрын
That impact driver tool is powerful! I thought it was pneumatic until it was shown complete in the video, I need one of those. Good video, will look for more in your channel.
@itsaboutfam3 ай бұрын
Thank you for commenting. The impact gun is pretty good considering it's an older model from Ryobi. They have even stronger models that are brushless.
@raymond82807 Жыл бұрын
I have to do the same thing this weekend on my Highlander and as I can see it's almost identical. I will save a lot of time thanks to you!
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
You're welcome...happy the video helps you out. Good luck!
@denisaparicio7313 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!,this video made my life a lot easier, replacing those parts on wife's Sienna
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
You're welcome ..glad this video helped you😎
@automatticvan473010 ай бұрын
Couple hacks to add to the video. 1 When putting the mount back in, use clamps to compress last little bit. 2 I used a cut off saw to take an 1/8 " off of the top bolt. Once i did that it popped back together fairly easily.
@itsaboutfam10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the hack idea.... hopefully someone that watches the video and sees this helps them.
@canoedude7 ай бұрын
That really helped!
@ryanwashere213 ай бұрын
I did this once on an awd. The transfer case makes it harder to get to if you're a diy'er. But ultimately, this video got me through the toyotas with the 3.6
@itsaboutfam2 ай бұрын
😎👍
@mmmadogАй бұрын
Lady friend just took her Sienna to Toyota for an oil change. Told her she needed lower control arms and was quoted 3700.
@itsaboutfamАй бұрын
Unfortunately that sounds about right. They are quoting that price because Toyotas method of replacing the lower control arms is removing the whole front crossmember.
@ricardoyoung200817 күн бұрын
Took my car to Toyota dealership today for a simple oil change and was told my whole front suspension was shot. Quoted me almost $4,000. I am PISSED TO HIGH HEAVEN!!! My friend and I are going yo buy all OEM parts and do it ourselves. Screw this!!!
@itsaboutfam15 күн бұрын
@@ricardoyoung2008 Unfortunately the dealer or most repair shops will charge about the same. The FSM has the whole front subframe to be dropped to repair the LCAs. The majority of the cost is the labor rate rather than the actual parts.
@tucobenedicto10921 күн бұрын
I heard it hit at highway speeds when i let off the gas to slow down, also vibration at highway speeds, tires balenced many times. Play in the steering wheel while parked. Tie rod ends original i think and very squeky. Ball joints new but they did not change the arms. As you said below they remove the subframe at the stealership, if they did i trust they tightened it properly. I am buying oem parts this time, but not from that stealership but a different one much cheaper. I also bought new bolts and nuts as the bolts might be shot. I did hit a pothole at 55 mph on the left side a few years ago. The cover on the strut blew off to the side of the road (replaced and strut and bearing). The left front blew out a bubble one hour after the incident. Made it home two rims were shot, Replaced all 4 tires they has 5/32" left. road force balence and still have the shake. Much less now but its still there. let me know what you think.
@canoedude7 ай бұрын
Great video! Helped tremendously. Additional thoughts - a ball joint separator is handy (available for loan from many car parts stores - I found one that worked at AutoZone). Also, don't overlook the "control arm stoppers" that are on the tabs (? The pair of inner bolts under the mounts) - move them from your old LCAs to the new. One per side. I missed that.
@itsaboutfam7 ай бұрын
I am happy the video helped you out😎👍. Great additional input, hopefully others see it.
@californiadon38812 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Like others, I was quoted 13 hours from Wheel Works for this job (both sides). It seems very excessive. Then they want to charge $100 per hour as well. I imagine an experienced mechanic would finish this in a few hours, maybe 4 or 5 max.
@itsaboutfam2 жыл бұрын
Depending if you have the right tools and are mechanically inclined, you can knock out this job in 2 hours. Other factors like if the vehicle has rust or like the ball joints are stubborn to get loose, maybe a little longer. I did both sides removed and replaced in an hour 1/2. 13 hours is the going rate for this job by certified mechanics in the industry. Most will get this job done much sooner and the rest of the "labor hours" is easy money for them. Not saying all mechanics are crooks, I understand they need to put food on their plate, but you also too.
@notme22 Жыл бұрын
That’s because the factory manual says to R&R the eng/trans to do the job. A good mechanic can do it in less than an hour after getting the vehicle off the ground.
@CForged4 ай бұрын
You have to remember mechanics don’t actually make good money. The shop takes in a lot of the profit. I don’t think most mechanics even make 100k a year. For the the schooling and tools they are getting ripped off
@bbdallas12 жыл бұрын
Great video and very details explaining. Thank you for sharing
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@jamminsavan14409 күн бұрын
My tires are wearing on the outside so it's either my lower ball joint or LCA bushing going bad..replacing both today!
@itsaboutfam8 күн бұрын
@@jamminsavan1440 When the bushings fail it will throw off the toe settings and can cause that wear. I hope you replacing the LCAs resolves your issues.
@jamminsavan14406 күн бұрын
@@itsaboutfam do u normally get an alignment after replacing the lca?
@itsaboutfam5 күн бұрын
@@jamminsavan1440 I would highly recommend getting an alignment after doing this job.
@nesco713 Жыл бұрын
Great video..at toyota dealership 1,250 for both sides toyota sienna 2017. Stated about 2 hrs to replace.
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
I am glad the video helped you out. You can save a good amount of money.
@wizardg806711 ай бұрын
Bro, I was just quoted by a Toyota dealership for $4 grand for both sides. Yes $4 grand. Yikes!
@wizardg806711 ай бұрын
The bushings were also included with that quote.
@haroonebrahimi3456 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a world bro. I work for Toyota and they said $800 for parts and $1000 for labor based on $65 an hour employee discount
@palbano99 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am about to do this same job
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am glad this video is able to help you out to repair your Sienna.
@Obejas0811 ай бұрын
the transmission mount upper bolt part unscrews, very easy to remove - no need to pry bar it out
@davidperry68865 ай бұрын
what do you mean it unscrews? You can unscrew the top bolt out of the mount with no issues?
@stevepham84433 ай бұрын
@@davidperry6886 I'm about to do both front LCA's on my sienna and I googled the mounts for the sienna and the studs are indeed removable. You just need to double nut on to the stud and just back it out. It's just one really long piece. I confirmed it with some old forums posts for 3rd gen siennas.
@davidperry68863 ай бұрын
@@stevepham8443 Well, I did both recently after watching a few videos. I can affirm that the passenger side doesn't require extreme jacking of the engine; just hold it in place as that mount is bolted to the side of the engine (I have a 2013). The driver side, I just bit the bullet and kept jacking the trans until I wasn't comfortable any more against the firewall. At that point it really did just take a small amount of effort with a crow to barely lift the trans off the mount. No issues, and the actual drivers LCA was a piece of cake. Getting the passenger side one out was a bear; it took me a full day to get the ball joint separated...
@AutoTechWorld_DIY Жыл бұрын
Thanks. You know what the book time for this is? 8.8 hours. The manual says to drop the frame. Thanks
@johndc2998 Жыл бұрын
Book time for it at Toyota Canada is 7.4. How tf is your book time higher when we have wayy more rust to deal with.
@tylerzeller193611 ай бұрын
AllData (NoData lmao) told me 10.7 hours. No way in hell am I telling a customer the entire drivetrain has to be removed to replace a control arm 😂
@ask43242flight2 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial. Thank you!
@itsaboutfam2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@davidperry68865 ай бұрын
Define 'fedangle'. I just did my passenger side (actually I am fighting a frozen castle nut that I am having to cut off, but I separated the ball joint and the control arm and already pulled the control arm, so its just a matter of getting the ball joint out at this point.) Next is driver's side, 220K.
@itsaboutfam5 ай бұрын
The hardest part is getting enough room to lift that transmission mount bracket from that mount stud. Like what I did in the video...slightly lifting the transmission gives you just enough room with help from a crowbar to lift it off the mount stud. The reason this job is expensive from Toyota is because Toyota FSM technique is to drop the whole front subframe to replace the lower control arms.
@davidcardenas47594 ай бұрын
Good video and well explained, what impact did you use of how many lbs to remove the nuts from the arm?
@itsaboutfam4 ай бұрын
I used an older Ryobi 1/2 inch impact gun. I don't know how much force used to remove the bolts but it didn't have an issue removing them.
@HectorDiaz-og5cj7 ай бұрын
thank you for the video. I replaced both lower control arms without the ball joints. wheel rim is scrapping the lower control frame when turning wheel all the way on both sides. what to do?
@itsaboutfam7 ай бұрын
I am trying to understand what you meant you installed new lower control arms without ball joints?
@HectorDiaz-og5cj7 ай бұрын
yes, the old ball joints were still good
@itsaboutfam6 ай бұрын
@@HectorDiaz-og5cj I am not sure why your wheels would be running after installing the new arms unless something wasn't installed right or the LCAs are wrong.
@orlandooropeza230511 күн бұрын
Where did you buy the front Lip?
@itsaboutfam10 күн бұрын
@@orlandooropeza2305 eBay
@jeffharrell18742 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Did you need an alignment after this? or was everything still good?
@itsaboutfam2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome..glad it helped😎. The Sienna drove straight afterwards but I still did an alignment. Fortunately it was still within factory specs so I didn't get charged. It's recommended to get an alignment, there are multiple factors that can throw an individual vehicle's alignment off.
@TheBlooRayChannel11 күн бұрын
How long did your aftermarket control arms last for?
@steveclement4557 Жыл бұрын
I am assuming you replace the whole lower control arm, not just the bushings. Also should I replace the motor mount and tranny mount why I’m doing this job.
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
Yes..I replaced the whole lower control arm. I used Moog Problem solver series as they are supposedly better quality. So far no issues and they fit like OEM. Inspect your mounts if they need to be replaced. Mine were fine as they showed no signs of failure or about to fail.
@ehsanull10 ай бұрын
I stripped the 2 bolts that 1 of them goes under the mount. That nut is not coming off it’s inside the frame. Is there a way to just make a new threat on the old nut and buy new bolt?
@itsaboutfam10 ай бұрын
Is the stud for the mount stripped or is it spinning along with the nut? If it's stripped you can either rethread it with a tap and die set with a new nut or replace the whole mount. If it's spinning along with the nut then the stud on the mount got loose or broke which I am pretty surprised it would. That I couldn't help you with and you will have to figure out a way to keep that stuff from moving.
@chefrobertcaldas3 ай бұрын
you dont neeed anything under the oil pan to support the engine while taking the engine mount out?
@itsaboutfam3 ай бұрын
When you do the passenger side you will have to support the motor when you remove that engine mount. For the driver's side like in this video I supported the transmission on the body since the pan of the trans mount is smaller.
@kenni4115 ай бұрын
Do you think you can just do the passenger side by jacking it up like you did with the drivers side or do you still need to remove the mount bracket?
@itsaboutfam5 ай бұрын
No because the mount on the driver's side is completely different.
@kenni4115 ай бұрын
@@itsaboutfam so the mount also has to be removed ?
@mr2cqql4 ай бұрын
There's another video here somewhere on youtube shown a shop that removed in less than 10 minutes.
@itsaboutfam4 ай бұрын
If you can remove the LCA in less than 10 mins...more power to you.
@jaimedpcaus12 ай бұрын
Is it worth it to get toyota parts or generic brands would suffice? Thanks
@itsaboutfam2 ай бұрын
TBH...the Toyota LCA failed around 100k which I would expect an aftermarket part to fail, and IMO that's pretty pathetic. I installed MOOG aftermarket LCAs and they are holding up just fine and alot cheaper than OEM.
@jaimedpcaus12 ай бұрын
@@itsaboutfam Yes, OEM parts are super expensive. I keep going back and forth (in my head) about oem or after market for these two pieces. The dealership stated on the paper that these two parts are critical to be replaced. And I have 183k miles on my van. I don't want to buy a new vehicle at this time so I keep wondering about the cost and the van's lifetime....
@yingtse3153 ай бұрын
Would it damage the transmission if lifted up with a jack?
@itsaboutfam3 ай бұрын
In the video I mentioned to lift the transmission on the case body of it, NOT the transmission pan. You can see where I placed the jack on the transmission.
@chasfredricks Жыл бұрын
Can I buy just the bushing for the control arm? Or should I just buy a complete arm with it installed?
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
You could....I know that Siberian Bushings makes upgraded bushings for the Sienna. If you have the tools like a hydraulic press it will make the job to replace them easy. I was strapped for time to fix the van for a road trip so I just got replacement LCAs. I saved the OEM control arms and will probably install the Siberian bushings on those in the future.
@abcrichton Жыл бұрын
Will this technique work with an AWD Sienna. I have a 2011, want to make sure the drive shaft to the rear whels doesn't interfere with lifting the engine/transmission. Thanks for the great video!
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
I would like to say yes...the only difference is the AWD Siennas have a transfer case but that doesn't affect how the suspension is mounted. Like I said in the video it will take some effort but you can lift enough to get that motor mount out. Thank you for watching and commenting and hope you're able to get it done. 👍
@jeremysaramosing6943 ай бұрын
Do you have to torque any nut or bolts after replacing rca?
@itsaboutfam3 ай бұрын
If you look in the comments...Someone provided the torque specs of various bolts when doing the job.
@vuonghung31342 жыл бұрын
Good job 👍👍👍
@tameemgrinat14009 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@DSPNWtoCali Жыл бұрын
What brand you replace the lower control with? I think we may need to do our as well. Aftermarket or OEM. You think Moog is a good brand. You mentioned you replace the ball joint and it was the OEM. But i am limited on money and i think Moog are decent enough.
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
Well the fact that it's common that the OEM bushings fail at such low miles doesn't give me confidence they are worth their price. Moog QC has been 50/50 since now they have multiple distribution centers all over the world and their QC has suffered. I went ahead and gave them a shot and so far no issues. As far as the ball joints...IF you can go OEM though I would, but again it's a 50/50 chance the Moog will be quality.
@DSPNWtoCali Жыл бұрын
@@itsaboutfam hmm. Man you making it tough on me on deciding the best LCA. Might go check RockAuto out for other brand.
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
@@DSPNWtoCali Dorman is a brand I would probably trust..their stuff is pretty decent. Rockauto sells them, I believe they are $20-30 more than Moog.
@johncheer9164 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!👍
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
You're welcome...glad it helped you out.
@reymisterio19184 ай бұрын
*_FYI PENSKY TOYOTA OF DOWNEY QUOTED ME ABOUT $7,200 TO REPLACE BOTH L.C.A ON MY 2013 SIENNA!! THIEFS!!_* 🤬🤬
@itsaboutfam4 ай бұрын
$7200?!? I don't even know if they really expected a customer to pay for something like that for replacing control arms.
@RxRau-kg9ot4 ай бұрын
Why did you remove the Moog ball joints? are the Toyota ones better?
@itsaboutfam4 ай бұрын
OEM Toyota ball joints are superior and in the video I mentioned I replaced them several months prior as they were still good.
@RxRau-kg9ot3 ай бұрын
@@itsaboutfam Yes, that's what I wanted to confirm. My Sienna has 225k miles, and the control arm bushings are shot. There are eBay control arm sets selling for under $70 shipped, but I doubt if the ball joints are any better than the ones already in my car.
@RxRau-kg9ot3 ай бұрын
What do you think about replacing the motor and tranny mounts with eBay parts at the same time?
@itsaboutfam3 ай бұрын
@@RxRau-kg9ot with that mileage, it wouldn't hurt especially if they shows signs of wear.
@RxRau-kg9ot3 ай бұрын
@@itsaboutfam Thank you. I just got a set of eBay motor mounts and Rock Auto control arm: Delphi p/n TC6012 & TC5900 with lifetime warranty. I'm going to cross my fingers the ball joints and mounts are no worse than the ones on the car.
@SuperNoelhernandez Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video, I have a question do you know the torque specs?
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don't have those numbers. I should invest in a Sienna FSM in the future. I have been working on vehicles for awhile so I have developed an instinct of when it's "right enough" 😎.
@SuperNoelhernandez Жыл бұрын
@@itsaboutfam thanks a lot I appreciate the information
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
@@SuperNoelhernandez If you're using hand tool...usually once you tighten to where you can't tighten with normal force. A good 1/4 or 1/2 turn with more force will be tight enough. With power tools, same general concept but you will have to make sure not to overtighten or you can break the bolt.
@SuperNoelhernandez Жыл бұрын
@@itsaboutfam thanks so much
@nitewindhi9 ай бұрын
Tyvm
@itsaboutfam9 ай бұрын
You're welcome 😎👍
@hhct12345 Жыл бұрын
My 2016 went bad on 65k miles
@attackcamel13 Жыл бұрын
I was quoted $2600 to replace both driver and passenger side control arms in my 2014 Sienna. $600 for parts and $2000 for labor. That labor cost sounds insane to me. Are they scamming me?
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
The parts prices are about right if it's original Toyota equipment. If they're aftermarket, that price is too high. For the labor rate it is high but it's not far-fetched It's near the ballpark range. I went shop around to get a better price. Now if you have some time and some mechanical knowledge and some tools you can do the job for me. It took me about an hour and a half to do both sides on my van.
@user-zs5ey8xs9n Жыл бұрын
It pays 10.4 hours to replace both control arms
@brandonc2566 Жыл бұрын
The way the manual reads you take the engine out. Reason for crazy price and labor. But as we all see that’s not necessary. Just wanted to clarify why the quotes are so huge. Also if you unbolt the front mount you can get that extra lift ya need. 🤙🏼
@SpcT0rres7 ай бұрын
Toyota quoted me $2700 for a front lower arm replacement. Is that too much?
@itsaboutfam7 ай бұрын
That seems to be around the ball park price unfortunately. I am not sure how many hours it calls for them to change the lower arm, but usually it's $120+ per hour labor. I believe when I was researching how to replace it, Toyota supposedly drops the whole front subframe down to replace the arms. It makes sense BUT not really necessary as I didn't have to do that.
@jhosue_247 Жыл бұрын
Ay boss, I’m trying to the exact same procedure as you but I can’t get the old transmission Mount out, the transmission simply won’t go any further up, any idea what I could be missing ? Btw it’s the awd version sienna
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
You tried to lift the transmission from it's casing as high as you can? You might be able to lift it a bit more by disconnecting the upper "dog bone" motor mount. It does take some effort to get it out but it should eventually come out.
@agimqazimi225910 ай бұрын
Replaced both lower control arms and both transmission and motor mount on my 2011 sienna,everything went smooth but when i started the car it started vibrating now and when i press the gas pedal engine makes a loud noise like growling,has anyone had this issue before?
@itsaboutfam9 ай бұрын
Have you checked maybe you got something loose? Maybe you accidentally knocked a connector plug off to something?
@agimqazimi22599 ай бұрын
@@itsaboutfam air intake hose had become undone/came off of throttle body but i put it back together but the growling still remains when i accelerate,engine work just fine on idle but as soon i as press on gas pedal growling and vibrating on the steering wheel continues! Checked the sensor,hose everything looks good,just cant figure out what is going on,even took it to a auto mechanic they said everything looks ok!
@joseagosto76 ай бұрын
Nice montero
@itsaboutfam6 ай бұрын
Thanks 😅
@MusicWorthListening25 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't you just separate the arm from the ball joint
@itsaboutfam5 ай бұрын
You could but earlier in the video I mentioned that I reply the ball joints prior and they didn't have to be replaced. It was easier to just leave it on and undo the 3 bolts rather than remove the castle nut from the top. If you have to replace the lower ball joint, then yes you would have to remove the castle nut.
@veemajeno7511 Жыл бұрын
What tool sizes did you use if you can please put it In chat thank you
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
In the video I mention each size for each bolt as I remove the driver's side LCA.
@biggy_fishy Жыл бұрын
Anyone know why I'm hearing metal on metal after doing this?
@jacobtrain4240 Жыл бұрын
Because you messed up
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
If you installed everything correctly you shouldn't have any issues. I would check if the bolts are tightened correctly.
@thatblackjeep Жыл бұрын
You could have bent the dust cover on the back side of the disk brake
@farhaanchy2 жыл бұрын
i was quoted based on 10 hours for both lca is that correct ?
@itsaboutfam2 жыл бұрын
Depending on your mechanical ability and having the tools...it can be done I much less time. I did both sides in about an hour 1/2. Mind you I have experience with replacing suspension components and also I didn't have to deal with other factors like rust or previous poor quality work another person did.
@tedwu93542 жыл бұрын
It took me 10 hours just to change one side using basic hand tools. I need to remove a lot of screws. It's a big job.
@abigailbalneg6863 Жыл бұрын
Where so you buy lower control arm 🤔
@itsaboutfam Жыл бұрын
I bought them from Rockauto.com
@MusicWorthListening25 ай бұрын
Your skipped the whole part you "fandanfled" idk how to fandangle
@itsaboutfam5 ай бұрын
Fandangle meant I had to pry with the crow bar in different angles to get the bracket over the transmission mount stud.