2013-2015 Honda Accord Throttle Body Spacer Dyno Test

[@eddiegrijalva2300]

The only person to use real data to answer the questions we all have, thank you so much.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

You are very welcome! I'm glad I was able to help.

[@ghosttjam]

spacer increases WOT max: +2.5 hp +8 ft/lbs and... +5 hp & +5 ft/lbs torque throughout mid-range That's a huge increase for just a spacer. Good job bro. Thank you for uploading this video, it is very informative

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I'm sorry. I never saw this comment before! I know it's a late response, but I really appreciate your comment. I'm glad it helped you out!

[@averygentry35]

2.5 is huge?

[@quiet_benzy]

avery gentry for a spacer

[@brandonwilkinson9728]

@@averygentry35 bro for a 60 dollar spacer I think so lol

[@brandonwilkinson9728]

@@averygentry35 you could by a cold air intake for 300 bucks and it would add 10

[@jaredrosenkrance4179]

7 years later. Still helping people out.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I'm glad to hear that!

[@awittypilot8961]

Well done lads! This is a no nonsense done right comparison! I HATE all the fluff some guys think they need to add. Keep up the great work!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thanks a lot! I figured keeping it simple was the way to go!

[@tonybailey89]

I was almost deterred by all the haters on throttle body spacers...I think $75 is not a bad investment for what I've consistently seen 5-10hp and 5-10ft-lbs across multiple different types of vehicles, thanks for taking the time to do this testing!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I was in a similar boat, honestly. I have no idea why it is generally accepted that these parts don't do anything. Maybe certain ones don't do anything or they don't work or work well with certain applications. But, clearly, it works here! No problem!

[@jordanrieser2703]

Data=@3:17 Stock Sound=@0:38 Spacer Sound=@2:38, I hope this helps everyone to hear the comparisons! Tbh the spacer makes it louder and even better in my opinion but the second part was filmed near exhaust of car, no way to know without a sound reader near engine with before and after readings. Either way Great video and thanks for making it!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thank you for putting these timestamps together! And you are very welcome.

[@davidvasquez936]

I also noticed the sound difference...a bit more beefier sound imo

[@kennethpowers8995]

Everyone always tries to say the 9G Sport is underrated from the factory, but your results are the same that I’ve seen on our rollers. 160whp from 190bhp is about a perfect 16% drivetrain loss on your stock run, about what is to be expected from a modern drivetrain setup. The car does feel strong for a 190 HP car even in stock trim, but once tuned they really wake up. We typically see around 190whp with a PCD and intake/tune. Stock Sport exhaust is plenty of flow for the engines requirements so you really don’t gain anything but noise going after the cat. The stock intake on this car is well designed also, but there is a little power to be had at WOT with a good intake after playing with fueling and MAF scaling a bit. Solid information here brother.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thank you for saying that and for the information. I'm sure people will find it very useful!

[@kevstr432]

thanks for putting through a dyno test as well for undeniable facts. you've earned a like and subscription. getting a TBS to complement my SRI and J2 Engr high flow exhaust system.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem! No one had done a dyno video of this yet at the time, so it was definitely worth "myth busting."

[@louisferaca9290]

Niceee

[@topgun779]

Did it benefit the other supporting mods?

[@N-Scale]

Thanks for taking the trouble to do this video. I was thinking of one for our 2007 Odyssey as we tow a 3500 lb trailer. Thanks , Mike

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Mike Fifer No problem man, glad it was helpful!

[@drivn4895]

Would love to see the numbers on the actual paper! Thanks for the vid!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I agree. Thank you!

[@ppernett1]

Thanks man! I have been wanting someone to do this very test for a long time. My butt-dyno told me this very info for a while, but I have always wanted evidence. I sensed the same results, top end there’s not much difference. But part throttle and low end torque is definitely improved. Great test!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I'm glad you found it helpful! Thank you!

[@gilbertvega9390]

Thanks man for the video and the dyno test results. I was skeptical about purchasing one but after seeing this video well I just ordered me one. I know it will go hand in hand with my K&N cold air intake. I have 2015 Honda Accord EXL V6 Sedan so I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the results also. Thanks again for the real actual results. 👍

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem! My whole reason for creating the video was to determine whether TBSs actually work! By the way, I have heard that some cold air intakes do not fit perfectly with a TBS installed. So, you may have to get some additional hardware to make it work. Good luck!

[@dylan10harris]

man you a real one thanks for not bsing the whole time

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

You're welcome! Tried to make this as simple as possible. I always hated not getting quick, straightforward answers from KZbinrs, and that's what prompted my approach in this video.

[@TotoTheCat1]

Great video, you answered my question perfectly. I'm getting one.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Great to hear man!

[@topgun779]

So how did you like it when u got it. Any noticeable gains?

[@applicationoriental6381]

Nice video! You may also consider installing a longer pcv hose. The extra volume gives the same effect as the spacer, but cheaper with a much lower risk of vacuum leak.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thanks for the advice!

[@ryanosbourne9945]

Now add the Sprint booster to get rid of the drive by wire lag to the throttle body and you will be amazed. I bought a Sprint booster for my '13 Accord V6 M/T and it got rid of any lag due to the electronic throttle response and that car was already very immediate with application of throttle. Costs around $300 no matter the car!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I will admit that I haven't done my research on that, but I feel like the problem it is designed to resolve can also be resolved via electronic tuning. I would say that, if you were planning on building your car more than just a little bit, you would be better off cost-wise with a tuner from Hondata or K-Tuner. With those, you could do a lot more, as well. I will have to look into these, though. Thanks for bringing them to my attention!

[@MrChristianrentasram]

I just got the throttle body spacer I got the air intake thanks to you hopefully it's worth it

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

That's great to hear!

[@miamimagicians]

Thank you so much, did you have to "relearn" the car basically teach the car the throttle body with a computer?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

You are very welcome. No, I did not need to do that. The car functioned just fine for me after the TBS install. However, maybe I should have. I planned to get a K Tuner after installing an intake or exhaust or whatever else, but didn't stick with the car long enough to make that happen.

[@joey1458]

I installed a sp2 tsudo catback exhaust system,it makes a lot of difference on power and sound,just ordered a air intake and throttle body spacer

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

You have a video of how it sounds?

[@MikeLike8]

Great work and report. I have the 2015 Sport 2.4L and really want to add power.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

This would be a great place to start! Glad you found the video useful!

[@neilyakuza6595]

Thank you, I'm gettin one!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem!

[@burnnotice5086]

I just found out today that Throttle body spacers make the car much better.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

"Much" might be a strong word, but they certainly do something, according to my experiment!

[@ohmanbryan]

Nice!! Will be adding this to my Mods-to-do list! Great video

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

That's great to hear! Thank you!

[@civicluna5606]

great video and I'm glad to see. keep up the good work.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

We appreciate the support!

[@Teddy_750]

Never realized how good the accord actually looks

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

You know, that's the exact realization I had. I feel like a lot of people are raised to believe normal, family sedans are boring to drive, and equally as boring to look at. Honestly, though, the modern sedans, especially, are designed quite tastefully.

[@NATURALGAMING]

It’s waxed

[@bobbywilliams1755]

Just what I wanted to here. Real data!!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Yes, real data, rather than "I felt a difference" 😂 I'm glad you found it helpful!

[@thaivo5550]

Thanks bro, can't wait to get it then.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem!

[@spartan123479]

The only complaint I really have is that when u do a Dyno sheet the reason you do 3 runs is because you average them together. That's what needed to happen to get the most accurate data. Not just the highest power run that's out there.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I have realized that since creating the video, but thank you for pointing that out, so that people understand how it all works a little better.

[@gearhead4005]

great video. Just bought my spacer :-)

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

That is great to hear!

[@lionaz7945]

Great video 👍

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thank you very much! I'm glad it hasn't aged too poorly lol.

[@VinnySpeeds]

Thanks for the info, appreciate the video and display of what we wanted to see!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem man, glad you found it helpful and informational!

[@frankiej361eso3]

Ur using the afe throttle body spacer they say they get rid of the "annoying whistle" which i like lmao but since it works might as well try it on my 2015 colorado 2.5 liter intake tune,e85 and exhaust :) might just dyno to see numbers

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

If you do dyno it, please let me know if it works out for you! I would love to see if the results are similar on a different platform!

[@frankiej361eso3]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals i will let u know how it goes

[@AutoAesthetics0]

Outstanding video

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thank you! Though, I'm sure I could do much better today.

[@zlothra]

I honestly thought spacers were a scam, but that's quite a jump for such a small item. Just recently added a CAI on my Focus, so I may get one of these and see how it feels

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Yeah, so did I! That's why I decided to do this test. I hope it works out for you!

[@jtchett3604]

Extremely good video

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thank you! I am sure I could do a lot better, if I tried again, today!

[@6feetoveryou]

Nice video bro!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+TC350Z Thanks man!

[@aed990]

Nice result can't wait to get 1 for my car....when you bought the spacer does it come with hardwares for installation, like longer bolts to replace the stock bolts....thanks for sharing this video man...👍🏼

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+aed990 Yes, it comes with longer bolts!

[@danielsears3949]

Hey Samir, I have a 2014 2.4 Accord lx. I'm wondering what the part# is for the spacer you used. Is it 46-37001?Also, is your throttle body a KEIHIN? Mine has a #2 just below the name. 2013-2015 and I think 2016 the 2.4 seems to have not changed. For some reason I'm having trouble with finding a throttle body spacer for 14 Accord.Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for the great video.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I don't remember the part number, but if you are having trouble, just look for the 2012 Honda Civic Si throttle body spacer, it uses the same engine as the 4 cyl. Accord.

[@joey1458]

The afe body spacer adds like 8hp ,thats crazy

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

It really surprised me!

[@sumdood2035]

So, this was bone stock without a cold air intake? If so, that's impressive! I'm a Mustang guy, but this video makes me want to pick one up. Low end torque is where the 3.7 v6 needs the most improvement. Sorry PSR. May have lost your last reply. I deleted and reposted because my phone wouldn't let me edit :|

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Sum Dood It's all good man! Yeah, this thing doesn't even have a cold air intake, just a throttle body spacer, with an intake, it could have another 5 or 6 horsepower.

[@iTz_RaptorV1]

Did you only get supplied one gasket for the tbs? If so, what did you apply on the side without the gasket so there wouldn't be any vacuum leaks? Thanks

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Mine came with both, but you can get any sealer from an auto parts store for just a few bucks.

[@jesusojeda6310]

Oh nice answered what I was asking

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Glad to hear it!

[@cljerjr31]

thats totally worth it thanks for the insight I already have a Takeda intake and exhaust on my civic so it will be a great addition thanks again

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Carl Jeremie Yeah man! Coupled with your intake, this will do even more!

[@Tiberiumfreek]

3-5hp doesn't seem much. But considering, its a simple mod for a N/A vehicle, that's actually not bad for simply bolting in a helix spacer. I got a CAI and at custom cat-back on my Spec-V, so I am curious to see if a spacer really does actually do something. Nice to see people actually dynoing these and not just saying "oh it adds power." Course to add, I love some companies say you get 22hp just by adding this on to your throttle body. Needless to say, don't believe that, there is no possible way that these could do that.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Yeah, for what it is, I was honestly surprised by he results. I've seen numbers as outrageous as "10% increases" in power. It's insane to think they could do that much. I mainly just wanted to do this to myth bust these.

[@dalegribble8140]

Yes I agree with a good cold intake with pipe and throttle spacer will increase horsepower by a few but not too much but ever horse under your hood does help 👍🏻to skip all the bullshit just add a bigger throttle body to your project car 👍🏻👍🏻

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Yeah, it really depends on what kind of build you're doing. My plans for this thing did not include any track time, so I just wanted to make it a little zippier over time.

[@ericecho5118]

Great info and video! Thanks!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

👍

[@jagenigma]

Thanks, been looking at getting a bit more kick out of my 17 sport. Now I know that there's a 30 hp difference between the crank and the wheel. It's gotta be the cvt loss

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Oh yeah, the CVT is inefficient from a power perspective, I'm sure. The problem, however, is that the CVTs cannot handle much power. I was told not to push more than 250 hp at the crank to avoid busting it.

[@keithbellair9508]

The cvt’s must be efficient, they all get good mpg ratings better than geared trannys. A 30 loss is typical for all cars.

[@brichaelargueta9196]

Keep up the great work. Very thoro

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

brichael Argueta Thanks a lot man, we try! We appreciate the support!

[@davidsimmons4091]

Thanks for doing test.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem!

[@naoatsumi5576]

Interesting video man. I have a different car which is 2015 Mazda 3 2.5l but I am debating whether to buy throttle body spacer from afe power. But after doing some research and reading forum, some people believe its waste of money claiming they don't do anything. Do you think throttle body spacer works depending on the car?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Well, I only have evidence that a TBS increases power on Honda K24 engines. However, I don't see any reason why a TBS wouldn't work for a Mazda 3. The big problem with TBSs is that they don't make enough of a change for you to notice anything. Your car won't feel faster and, unlike with some other modifications that sometimes don't add much power (like cold air intakes),your car won't sound faster. So, spending $100 for no noticeable difference is a kind of a waste, from that perspective. Of course, if you want some additional power which is easy to obtain, since a TBS is easy to install, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get one.

[@naoatsumi5576]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals Ahh I see your point. Yea some people believes its better to spend on something else like ecu tuning which I understand that, but I kind of don't want to do that. I will modify my car but not turning into 100% racing car. Maybe way later in the future but I doubt it. Looks like I'll debate myself little longer. Thanks for quick reply!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@naoatsumi5576 No problem! Always happy to help out when I can.

[@josem.9700]

So this throttle body spacer would add some actual HP increase? Got a 2017 accord sport and want a bit more power increase. Got a intake but don't seem to get much but like 2-3 HP. Thanks.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Yes, it definitely does. The difference is not noticeable, but maybe it would be a little bit with the intake. Just keep in mind that the TBS will move your intake a little bit. So, if you don't have much room to play, you may have to modify the placement of the intake's mount. One of my friend's had this problem occur with his aFe Takeda intake.

[@mr.speyside5240]

You won't get much power from that motor. It's the bastardized version of the Si motor. They detuned it on purpose for "mpg" numbers and it isn't really a great motor designed for performance. Sadly because it does have a nice torque curve in the mid range but that's it.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

You can clear that tune just fine. It's hardly down on power compared to the Si. With a free-flowing exhaust and a K-Tuner or Hondata setup, you can match the Si. Of course, this car still weighs more, but it isn't meant for racing anyway, so it's not a problem in my eyes.

[@mr.speyside5240]

Project Street Royals My concern is I want to keep my 2015 but am considering getting the 2017 with the v6. I want the new Si but don't like the 1.5L being over tuned the way it is. That motor won't last long but the v6 is only automatic. First world problems lol

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Well, I like Sedans more personally, but if you wanted to get the coupe, I'm pretty sure you can get a V6 manual in at least one of the models!

[@mr.speyside5240]

Project Street Royals You can. I'm considering the v6 coupe EX-L which beings the leather and sunroof. Color choices are limited but you get all the goodies and a strong motor. Wish the sedan v6 came manual.

[@garynapoli3042]

I hope it fits do you have a video putting it on paperwork set it only fits older body style with the VTEC

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I am not sure how easily a TBS would fit your application, since you have an aftermarket intake. I have heard that people with both a TBS and an intake needed to built or add a bracket extension.

[@garynapoli3042]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals yeah yeah I think you're right when I first got my intake it was an inch Too Short the bracket so I still have that maybe it will fit if I have to I might have to cut or custom make a bracket I mean if it shakes a little I don't think it would hurt anything

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@garynapoli3042 In my 1996 Honda Civic, my Password:JDM carbon fiber intake is only attached to the throttle body. I don't have any additional bracket. The intake has literally just been floating in my engine bay for years. But getting a custom bracket made shouldn't be difficult, either.

[@txtommy713]

Great review. Installing this spacer will it cause check engine light to come on?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

It did not happen on my car, and I have not heard of it happening on anyone else's car. I think you will be okay!

[@Piccobow]

Thanks again.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem!

[@ageofconner]

Great information Vid!!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thanks!

[@Vic_SF415]

I am maybe off topic. But I had a question for the Honda accord sports. Have they made any turbo kits out there for them already? I like the 2016 accord sport manual and was thinking of different options of putting in more power. I haven't seen or herd of a turbo accord sport out there just curious.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Victor Rivera Technically, any car that is gas or diesel powered can have a turbo setup. Some cars, like Honda Civics have a lot of companies make turbo kits for them specifically, however, a lot of cars do not have this luxury and require a custom setup where you buy the turbo, piping, intercooler, and everything else separately and then get it all to fit. I know someone with a 2014 Honda Accord V6 with a custom turbo set up making over 400 hp, however it usually costs more to do a custom set up like this because you will most likely need a shop to fabricate all of the piping and such.

[@cebastienlarochelle8182]

What if you put many spacers in a row. Does it improves or decrase the performance? I know it seems to be dumb but what if it really adds power?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Well, if you wanted to try that, you would need to get extended bolts. The spacer comes with extended bolts to replace the stock ones, but you couldn't put another one on there without finding ones that were even longer haha. I do wonder how that would work, but I doubt it would do much more anyway.

[@cebastienlarochelle8182]

thanks for your answer and for the video.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Cebastien Larochelle No problem, anytime!

[@darkeknight5591]

Well the spacer basically adds more air into your engine so you can just get a aftermarket intake manifold and that would increase soo much more hpw than adding a bunch of spacers

[@tretaylor_]

Hey. I would like to know if you needed a computer flash after installing the throttle body spacer?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I am not an expert. However, I do not believe you would need to for this mod.

[@askaliu2943]

hi dude, i know its been a while but just wondering if you still have the dyno sheet for this session? or if you remember the change in the way the power/torque line progress before and after the TBS install? rather than how much power it increases, i am more interested in if it had any effect on smoothing up the lines and such

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Hi, I very much apologize for the late response. For some reason, your comment was blocked, and I only now noticed it. I do have the dyno sheet, and I would love to share it with you. Do you have an Instagram?

[@askaliu2943]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals yah its Icarus1314 :D thanks man :D

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@askaliu2943 Great! Want to message us on our Instagram? Then, I can send you the photo.

[@peterpumpkineater5927]

It sounds more aggressive too

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Not that I noticed. If it seems that way, it's probably due to the camera's positioning.

[@peterpumpkineater5927]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals gotcha

[@peterpumpkineater5927]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals Do you think it would sound different if paired with a cold air intake?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@peterpumpkineater5927 The intake would be the catalyst for the louder and more aggressive noise. The TBS would likely not change the induction noise. Even if it did, it would be so minor, that you wouldn't notice it. An intake, though, would certainly liven up the induction tone.

[@peterpumpkineater5927]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals gotcha. I appreciate it

[@recycledproductions1]

nice video. saw that you from boise. what are some good performance shops around there? i live north of boise

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Recycled Productions This shop I went to is in Washington, but Boise is honestly not very good. There is Rich's Auto Care, but they are a little sketchy and they totally try to rip you off. They have a dyno though!

[@cesarruiz1999]

Great job 👍 keep it up

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thank you, will do!

[@ABTHEHOOLIGAN]

Where did you find the red honda logos?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

They are official Honda of Japan emblems, and I got mine from ProImportTuners.com!

[@evan7710]

I kinda want one for my tundra but I'm not sure if a couple horse is worth 100 bucks. but they do sound cool and it would probably help my throttle response. hmm. decisions decisions

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Evan Baker My engine is small, your motor is almost 3 times the size of mine, it would be much more horsepower, probably around 10-12 in terms of increase.

[@cyberpunksoldier5047]

great job

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Thank you!

[@3rdzodiac]

Awesome review. Can you tell us where you ordered from & what the part # is for this product cause all i keep finding are the V6 spacers which they say dont fit?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

This part is from aFe Power (afepower.com) and the part number is 46-37001.

[@3rdzodiac]

Project Street Racing Thank you. Any ideas in the future to do a dyno w/ the RV6 downpipe & then maybe later the Takeda axle back?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Originally, yes I was planning on doing both, however there was a change of plans and the Accord is no longer on the team. An update video will be uploaded soon to explain everything.

[@3rdzodiac]

Project Street Racing Cool. Thanks man

[@samwh4775]

Hey do you notice any difference while driving ? I have a 2015 accord sport CVT and I have another car but I plan to use this car as a daily driver and I like the fuel economy that the car have but I want at least a little more power nothing crazy, and I want to see if this make a difference that at least you can feel

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

To be completely honest, no, there is no noticeable difference when driving or in terms of fuel economy. If anyone tells you they feel a difference, it is only psychological. If you gave the car to someone who didn't know the TBS was installed, they would have no idea you did anything to add power.

[@samwh4775]

Project Street Royals oh okk, thanks !! Good to know that !

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@samwh4775 No problem! The primary purpose of this video was to test a TBS, and to determine whether it actually made any difference. On paper, at least, it does.

[@mikem7333]

Nice Video! Does your Accord burn any oil?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I'm sorry I missed this comment. No, it did not burn any oil while I had it.

[@Kro_man_tx]

I've watched a few of these videos about spacers and I still believe that if the distance of the throttle body from the intake manifold made a significant increase in power without sacrifices to fuel economy, Honda engineers would have placed the throttle body at a different distance from the intake. IF this half an inch gains anything, why wouldn't Honda place the throttle body over by the air filter? That would be a gain of over a foot? Just imagine the gains in power if all you have to do is move the throttle body away from the intake manifold! I can't believe Honda would not go for the basically free power if they just tweak their intake design by an inch.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

That is a fairly valid argument. However, think about all the things companies, especially Honda, do to save just the tiniest fraction of a mile for gallon. For example: I own a 1996 Honda Civic LX. On the EX, the intake manifold is different. It allows for better and more efficient air travel, whereas the LX has one that specifically restricts that same air travel. The differences in fuel economy (just based on the intake manifold) is so minute, you cannot even tell the difference in day-to-day driving, but you get a 6 hp boost off if you swap the EX's manifold onto the LX, which I have. Further, it is especially not Honda's goal to "make power." They want their cars to make sufficient power to not feel unbearably slow, be able to pass people on two-lane highways, and maybe be a little bit of fun when you want it to. Cold air intakes, in some cases, do the exact same thing: increase hp without sacrificing any fuel economy; in fact, they increase fuel economy if you drive properly. The jist here is that Honda does NOT want to give us more power than is necessary to accomplish their goals for the car and Honda wants fuel economy over everything else, for the most part.

[@dogsandcars202]

Kro- Man Not necessarily Honda engineers weren’t totally focused on performance but also feel economy and a more relaxed response

[@thefunyunconnoisseur2995]

Project Street Royals you're totally right, Honda would never allow such a savage gain of 4 hp for increased fuel economy. We wouldn't want everyone driving around in hyperspace Honda's 😂

[@MrJosuepando]

is there any way you can put a video of how you put your emblems on or send me a link so i am able to do it. thank you

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Josue Quintero I am not in possession of the car anymore, however, for the front, you need to remove the front bumper. However, if you break off the old emblem, you don't need to remove the bumper. For the rear one, you need to remove the trunk lining and then un-clip the rear badges from the inside.

[@ussjess5844]

Thank you slim shady now we know

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

😂

[@johnnyk617]

Will a throttle spacer fit if I already have a takeda intake. Or will it push the takeda past its proper positioning. Is it worth it to get both. Cus the intake already gave me +13hp for 100 bucks idk if I should justify the 2hp less on midrange

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Jay Bisky It will fit, but you will have to "modify" the placement. I know people that have just gotten a couple of brackets and a bolt to extend it back to the original spot, so it won't be impossible. And having both definitely will not be a mistake if you want more power, but if you are just looking for "bangs for you buck", then no, don't get both.

[@GModBMXer]

Jay Bisky

[@81quiroz]

Can you do more upgrades to the sport and see the power

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Actually, I do not have this car anymore. A family member totaled it last year.

[@81quiroz]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals dam that sucks what did you have on it to pick up HP

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@81quiroz Nothing else aside from the TBS. I didn't get very far into this build before my 1996 Honda Civic got fixed. At that point, my parents took over the payments on the Accord.

[@81quiroz]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals oh ok thank you for replying and hope all is well

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@81quiroz Thank you! Yes, things are definitely going well over here. I hope the same to you. Stay safe!

[@Sierra8one8]

does the throttle body space make a whistle noise?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I have not noticed any noise change by adding this piece. I've heard some people say that it does, but not from what I have seen.

[@talhamohsin6195]

with a cold air intake how much hp and torque do u think it would increase?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I have not seen any dyno results for these cars when they have both a TBS and an intake. I imagine there would still be gains from adding an intake, but I am unsure of how many gains there would be. If you go to aFe's website, they estimate what kind of power increases you should see from the intake, alone. Those numbers would probably be a decent indication, as long as you subtract a few horsepower and lb. ft. of torque from them.

[@pranavn12]

Is this the aFe throttle body spacer? And, how did you manage to pass inspection for the downpipes since it's a PCD?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Yes, this is a part from aFe and I don't have a downpipe. Also, Idaho does not do any inspections except for emissions, and in my area they don't even do that haha.

[@saulgoodman9193]

Just curious if you did 3 runs on each set up to get an average of hp and torque ?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I don't remember exactly how many runs we did for each setup, but I know we ran each setup at least twice.

[@saulgoodman9193]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals Good to know and it would be a good idea to mention that in your videos in my opinion. Just so people know what the average numbers are before and after . Thanks for the video though it had good info 👍 and sorry to make suggestions, probably annoying you but thats not my intention. I know you can't make everyone happy . Lol

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@saulgoodman9193 I realize that now. I didn't put much thought into that 6 years ago. I didn't even think this video would take off like it did. I just wanted to make a short little deal explaining that a TBS provides a tiny benefit haha. I am certainly not annoyed by the suggestions. I definitely appreciate them! You are correct though; not everyone will be happy with anything I do lol.

[@zmoney1212]

Hey friends, what are the downsides to this thing? Does it increase engine noise? Also I saw you recommend the Takeda intake in a comment below - how is that on noise?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Zlatan Omeragic No, it does not increase engine noise, although that would not be a bad thing. All intakes create extra noise, but it you do not like those noise increases, you are clearly not a car enthusiast. Many performance upgrades change/increase noise, so if you want power, you have to like the noise haha.

[@xpdj6557]

Can you do one on the spacer for the manifold

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I actually do not own this car anymore. However, I am unaware of what manifold you are talking about. Is there a spacer for the intake manifold? And if so, who makes it?

[@kamarsh94]

Do you have any other intake modifications on the vehicle?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

The car has, unfortunately, been totaled by a family member somewhat recently. However, no, it did not have any other intake modifications, at the time.

[@Roosterfishh]

Does the HP and MPG gain happen automatically once the TBS is installed? Or do you need to modify the ECU for the TBS?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Sergio Alcaraz The two dyno tests were done back to back, so the horsepower and torque numbers were instant without ANY tuning of the ECU. It is actually a very simple part. The MPG gain, I did a test on not too long ago, but it did not even increase 1.5 in total. It you are looking to gain MPG, this would not be the only part you need to make a substantial increase. I would recommend adding the Takeda intake to it to improve it further.

[@rileyforce3511]

Thank you for using data and not “I TotAlLy FEel tHe DiffeReNce!”

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Hahaha! Yeah, nobody is safe from the placebo effect!

[@Piccobow]

Yes!! That is what I need. YOU must forgive me. I am a woman and I'm not so concerned about being a show off or car enthusiast. ( though I don't mind making my car look better!) Just wanna be able to drive thru some busy roadways. Hey I live in Atlanta and they got the most horrendous thruways- especially the 285 perimeter is RACETRACK!!! THAT perimeter around the city IS WORSE THAN YOUR average city to city interstate!

[@Piccobow]

Unless you love speeding.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Mscellobass Oh yes, of course, I am not one to judge, so that is perfectly okay. However, increasing power gets pretty expensive most of the time and you won't get very much with minor modifications. A safe estimate from all the parts I listed previously provide 25 to 40 horsepower altogether, which is a nice boost. However, not including install (since I install all my parts myself) it will surpass $2,000 for all of those parts.

[@PLATINUM2U]

Hybridlancer2000 *how... that darn spell check lmao

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Haha it's all good man, I have to edit each response like 3 times before it is spelled properly. Honestly, I would prefer a manual in a performance vehicle, but this one is not going to be a performance build. It is nice to be able to control the gear you are in with the CVT though. It drives very smoothly, but another downside is that you are limited to how much power you can have on the motor. I spoke with Honda officials about it and they said they would not recommend putting a turbo on when you have a CVT, but exhaust and CAIs are just fine.

[@Jordan713Weed]

How has the throttle body spacer been holding up and is it a must to have the gaskets put in it mine came with 2 o ring gaskets.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Mine held up just fine!

[@canteenpapi3040]

Where did you get the red honda emblem in the front?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

xRaviing On proimporttuners.com.

[@thaivo5550]

Oh okay thanks!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

No problem!

[@henryc.5109]

Awesome video! I have two questions.. I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sport CVT, I would like to upgrade it but Im not quite sure what to do as well as what my limitations are. So I could get a throttle body spacer, a performance intake system, a RV6 downpipe, & an exhaust system to maximize my performance without harm? Secondly, where can I find the throttle body spacer for my car?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Henry Chinique Yes, you will not harm your car. Now, if you were thinking of doing much more than that (internals, upgraded block, turbo, etc.) then you would need to consider swapping to a manual transmission. It's not a good idea to put much more than 230-250 hp on the CVT trans because it is not meant to handle a lot of power. You can find the throttle body spacer on afepower.com.

[@Baby-wick94]

Thanks a lot where can I purchase throttlebody spacer ??

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Rene Cruz I actually do not know for a fact if the same company makes one for the V6, but aFePower.com.

[@flacoperez4406]

Where did you buy the throttle body spacer and how much was it? What brand?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+flaco Perez I bought it from afepower.com. The brand is aFe Power and it was a little over $100 when I bought it.

[@flacoperez4406]

+Project Street Royals Does it fit on honda accord sport 2015?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Of course it does, that's what this car is haha a 2015 Accord Sport.

[@iTz_RaptorV1]

I was able to install the afe throttle body spacer and can tell the torque difference off the line from a stop. I also like the hiss it makes when rolling around town on sport mode. It is definitely audible and this along with my kandn cai makes a big difference in throttle response, engine tone and power. No check engine light either and I don't think a tbs and cai would cause a cel. Any more mods and yes I could see the Accord throwing a code but none so far. Also, I've ran 89 gas/mid grade and felt that I got a little more power. Is it bad to run 89 or even 91 in a car that requires 87? I just noticed the car was me responsive and effective at producing power when at like 75% throttle on 89 than 87. I am just a little worried that the engine won't adjust the timing properly in the motor and will run improperly and cause issues later on. Also, do you know what cvt fluid I can get aftermarket that is of much higher quality than hondas oem cvt fluid? I also run pennzoil ultra platinum with pureplus technology and noticed a difference in how my engine performs. Thanks

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

Glad to see the product worked for you! And no, there is absolutely no harm in running higher octane like that in a car that requires unleaded fuel. What you do have to realize though, is that running 91 in a car that doesn't require premium will not benefit you and even if it does, the extra money you spend will cancel it out. Unless you have big mods like forged internals or an upgraded turbo system, there is really no need in going above 87 or 89 octane.

[@definitionXrp]

If your car throws a code from installing this how do you fix it??

[@SortaProfessional89]

hey man so i was wondering what kind of mods you have on your car i just bought a certified pre owned 2015 accord sport with 18k miles on it. i was thinking about doing a cold air intake and the hondata flashpro .. now maybe a TB spacer as well. do you know anyone that has done the flashpro on this motor. im familar with the k24a2 as i used to have a turbo 2004 tsx . but not with this motor..

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I don't know anyone who has used a flashpro on this motor, however, the K-Tuner works really well, especially with the RV6 downpipe.

[@joesipr]

if i made a tune of my car and installed that now can affect the tune?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I am not sure, actually. My gut tells me no, since this is such a simple and somewhat insignificant part. But I would find out from someone who really knows what they're talking about.

[@joesipr]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals and if worth the money for u?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

@@joesipr I would say no. Primarily, I made this video to prove that these parts make power. However, I do not believe it makes enough power on its own to justify the purchase (you likely will not notice a difference when driving). Furthermore, it you were to get an intake, it would likely replace most of the power you gain from this. So, what I am saying is that you are better off going with just an intake, really. But, I would need to conduct more research and tests to find out, for sure, whether an intake + a TBS would make extra power, which I do not believe it would, at this time.

[@joesipr]

@@ProjectStreetRoyals and they are not cheap cost 70 so i pass😂

[@Piccobow]

Thanks!! I have a new pre owned Honda Civic 2013 lx coupe and my ability to merge into traffic is hazardous. Car is fun to drive but with not a whole lot of power to safely drive into thruway I have plans to put in new air intakes, new exhausts, throttle body spacer and better wheels hoping this would help!! Any suggestions is welcomed!!!

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

So tou are looking strictly for performance modifications? I would recommend the company aFe Power and their Takeda Intake and Dueal exhaust. Then get an Rv6 downpipe and K tuner programmer!

[@Piccobow]

No this is for safety issues. Just to give the car enough power to safely merge into thruways.

[@MatTZI014]

Mscellobass I know what you mean! I have 2013 Honda Accord Sport CVT and it's very hazardous when merging into traffic on the Highway especially when Econ Mode is on. When Eco mode is on I have to nearly plant my feet to the ground and let the engine scream in order to get up to speed and not get hit from behind or side swept. I just now usually turn off eco mode and it helps acceleration a little bit more. It's the CVT that makes throttle response slow from a start. Next car I will buy will be the Honda Accord V6 regular Automatic or another car brand 4 cylinder with a regular automatic. No more CVTs for me from now on. Too hazardous. Safety > MPG. Honestly, my mom's 2009 Honda Accord 4 cyl EX regular auto is way faster and get up to speed without being hazardous. Not to mention, it's more fun too. Honda definitely cut costs and corners and made their new cars substandard all around. It definitely shows in comparison.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I honestly do not understand the whole "lack of power or throttle response" issue here. I NEVER drive in auto and if you want a quicker throttle response, drive in "S" or "Sport" instead of regular "Drive." Uses a bit more gas, but is much sportier with a faster acceleration.

[@zmoney1212]

+MatTZI014 Use the paddle shifters to shift down right 2 gears before you are ready to accelerate onto the highway...the car has near 190 horsepower and does 0-60 in around 8 seconds....its plenty fast for daily driving.

[@dizzyknutsak9462]

They really don’t do much if anything I only put them on my vehicles for the sound.

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

They do something, but not anything really noticeable. This would really only be useful for squeezing out those last couple of horsepower from an already bolted-on engine.

[@martingonzalez617]

it says for 2012 does it still work with the 2014

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

The last I checked, this product was only meant for the 9th gen Honda Civic Si, 9th gen Honda Accord, and Acura ILX. The 2012 Accord is from the 8th generation. So, I cannot comment on whether it will work for that car.

[@junjengken]

Nice video, any check engine light on with the throttle body spacer?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+arturo panganiban Nope, none at all!

[@Piccobow]

Were u going to suggest anything? Am I going the right way about this?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I guess I am a little confused as to what it is that you are requesting. Those performance modifications increase horsepower, which is what you want, isn't it?

[@DR.JAM777]

I got the throttle body spacer! Unfortunately I got a check engine light and code P0108. Did this happen to you? If it did what did you do about it?

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

I have never had any engine light on this car. Maybe you disconnected something in the process of installing it? Maybe something around the intake manifold?

[@MrJosuepando]

where did you buy your honda emblems from

[@ProjectStreetRoyals]

+Josue Quintero From ProImportTuners.com. They are genuine, so they cost a pretty penny!