2015-17 F-150 Vista Roof Lube Fix

Fix for F-150 Vista Roof sticking, dragging, noise when driving
There is now a fix from Ford for the problem with these tracks.
I did a video on how to install the parts
• 2015-18 F-150-350 Vist...
Other helpful videos on this topic:
How to replace the upper guide arms if they're broken:
• 2015-18 F-150-350 Vist...
How to remove your glass to inspect the carnage:
• 2015-Up F-150-350 Vist...
How to tell if your upper guide arms are broken:
• F-150 Sunroof Arm Fail...
How to tell if you need the entire track and not just the arms:
• Does My F-150/250/350/...
How to manually align your lower guides if they're out of sync:
• Ford sunroof lower gui...
How to lube the seal to prevent excess strain on the guide arms:
• 2015-17 F-150 Vista Ro...

[@SealofPerfection]

See the links in the description for other helpful videos about diagnosing and repairing these sunroofs

[@rickeyb450]

Thanks for the video! My sunroof was making a loud thump when it was opening. I ride with it open a lot and I know it was only a matter of time before something broke because of this. I bought some 3M Silicone Paste from Amazon and followed your instructions. The thump is completely gone. It opens and closes as smooth as silk now.

[@SealofPerfection]

Lubing that seal does the trick. Keep an eye on the other noises in case the lift arms start coming apart.

[@TStrey05]

Really appreciate the video. Was pretty concerned I had a big bill coming on a recent used truck purchase. $20 of lubricant and a helpful video was all it took. Add me to the list of people you’ve helped.

[@SealofPerfection]

Glad to hear it! Be mindful of the operation from now on. It's very likely the sticking had damaged the lift arms and they might break and cause the sunroof to get stuck. You'll likely hear a pop noise if it does. I have a video on how to fix that, too.

[@titoalvarado29732]

You are a life save and will add this maintenance to my routine every time I service my truck. May be over kill but it’s not a bad idea. Thank you for posting this . Super helpful

[@miruanjoyhdez1281]

I just did the lubricant and reprogramming of my sun roof. It works great now. I had to push the to open and close like 3 times before so it can get unstuck. Great help

[@SealofPerfection]

Glad to hear it!

[@jjone174]

This fixed my 2016 Ford F-150!!! I went with the Krytox by Chemours GPL 205 Grease... worked like a charm! Thanks for the great advise and how to video man!!

[@wdeahl]

Thank you again, your other video on calibration is also appreciated!!

[@blackbrd99]

Thank you! 2018 Platnium Super Duty sunroof was making noises closed. Would not open but now thanks to your video it opens fine.

[@SealofPerfection]

2 things: Always vent it first, before opening it. And keep and eye on the operation and any pops or cracking sounds. Your lift/guide arms are probably damaged and may fail later on. And keep it lubed every so often.

[@johnmcintosh6027]

Thanks for the tip - it solved the rattle on my 2016 F150 sunroof

[@rmann4946]

Thank you for your help... fixed annoying rattle on my 2018 F150

[@PTucker0864]

That was all mine needed....Thanks! 😎

[@ShawnandJillHaynes]

Thank you sir! Fixed my 2015 F150 sunroof...

[@malackfortar]

Thanks for your vid!Working on replacing my tracks and will lube too. I have dielectric grease on hand. Do you think that is suitable? My logic tells me that if it doesn't harm sparkplug boots it should be OK for rubber gasket, but I could be wrong.

[@SealofPerfection]

As long as it's not petroleum-based it will be fine

[@malackfortar]

@@SealofPerfection awesome! Installed new rails, performed initialization, greased the gasket and went flawless! Thank-you so much. Gratifying. BTW it was permatex brand dielectric. containes dimethylpolysiloxane which seems to be silicone. I think I'm good. Too late anyway as I've finished the project. I'll know next rainfall haha.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@malackfortar Silicone is good. I use 3M silicone paste

[@scottsheffield2594]

My 2015 F150 rear sliding window when opening sounds like it has grit or something dirty in the tracks maybe. Do you have any recommendations or videos on cleaning lubricating the rear window?

[@SealofPerfection]

I don't but what you describe sounds more like the cables are starting to have a problem. They are kind of gritty or crunchy sounding when they start to go bad

[@joshhassler]

Was wondering if you could give me alittle advice here, i bought my f350 used, guy said he never used the Sunroof bc it wouldnt work. I tried to open it to see and it seemed like it would move a very little bit and was trying to pick up the whole vista glass. Rear and all. Wont go down either to slide back. Trys to but seems stuck. And my sunshade will only close halfway. Doesnt seem like its mechanical issue almost like it thinks the roof is open and wont close. Any ideas? Thanks! I havent tried pushing up on it or anything didnt want to break it... was thinking about messing with it but its about 30 degrees outside

[@SealofPerfection]

Okay the reason the shade won't close all the way is because the glass is not quite fully shut. If it doesn't think it is, it will only go halfway. The reason it's trying to lift the back glass is because the seals are kind of basically stuck together because they've never been lubed. You can get up there and manually push it and break the seal between them, but there's a high probability that the sliding parts inside the track are going to be broken. How do you have a video on how to remove the glass and also one on how to inspect the broken parts if you have any and tell what they came from

[@hokie9910]

Do you only lubricate the rear gasket or do you lube elsewhere? Thank you for all of your great videos!

[@SealofPerfection]

To keep the sunroof from sticking you just lube the rear of the front window. If you have a rattling or squeaking noise when driving I have another video showing where to lube the seal on the rear window, but it's unnecessary unless it's making noise. Most of them don't. I don't really use the krytox anymore, I use 3M silicone paste.

[@hokie9910]

@@SealofPerfection Thank you. If I do this regularly do you think this will keep me from having to replace the rails?

[@SealofPerfection]

@@hokie9910 Hard to say. If you have the old-style rails, they are most likely eventually going to fail.

[@hokie9910]

@@SealofPerfection Do you know what year they changed approximately to a different rail?

[@SealofPerfection]

@@hokie9910 2019. I don't know what month the production units starting having the new ones, but I do know the first ones I saw were in fall 2019. I noticed when I got a set that had grease on them already. They always came dry previously. I thought someone had bought them, lubed them and then returned...but the next set was just like it, and also noted they had been noticeably beefed in the front "feet" area as well. I have also observed they have changed the lower cable guides as well, I believe in late 2018/early 2019. Haven't seen any of those break so far, either.

[@CarsAndGuitarsTV]

Thank you for the video and the other one on the same truck! Big help! Although I don’t have any of the problems that the video is for, but I have the same sunroof on my truck and I’m just looking to do some preventative maintenance. Is there anything I should do for the tracks or any other maintenance on this sunroof to prevent and problems?

[@SealofPerfection]

Keep the sunroof drains clean. Not much of an issue on these so far. Keep the seal cleaned and lubed like in this video. That's the biggest thing. And every time you want to open it....don't. LOL, just vent it first. That breaks the "seal" and it a lot less strain on the lift arms.

[@leeburns9782]

Thanks for posting this, I just bought a tube of the Dupont to lube the seals. I looked at mine after I opened it the other day and they are dry. My 2015 had been sitting several days in the hot sun, when I pressed the button to open the roof it was stuck momentarily. I had to press the button the second time and it slid open fully. Looks like this fix should take care of it. Again, thanks! Also Pacfanweb, is there maintenance on the drain tubes that need to be done ( or can be done ) so there is less of a chance for a backup when the water drains in those tubes?

[@SealofPerfection]

Sure, look at the size of the drain holes, and get you some tubing from Lowes or Home Depot that will stick in there and blow them out. Do NOT use compressed air. If they already flow okay, you can use detergent....windshield washer fluid is great, since it's designed to dissolve exactly the type of crud that's in there. Pour some through, let it sit a bit, then run water through there. They should slurp when you're done. Do that at least once a year.

[@leeburns9782]

Boom!.....Thanks buddy!

[@leeburns9782]

One more thing Pac, what type of maintenance do you recommend on the tracks or the other moving parts to the roof? Is there a type of spray lubricant or anything that can help decrease the risk of those parts failing?

[@SealofPerfection]

@@leeburns9782 Silicone paste is good. Liquid Wrench Lithium is good. I like it because it has ceramic teflon in it.

[@Ricardo_C]

I used the 3m silicone paste , hopefully it works as well.

[@SealofPerfection]

That's about all I use these days. Works great.

[@ICEGOD68]

Can you post the lubricant again please.

[@SealofPerfection]

Been using this for a few years now. Very pleased with it. www.amazon.com/3M-08946-Clear-Silicone-Paste/dp/B005RNEH5O/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=silicone+paste&qid=1619489367&sr=8-3

[@Mustgtcs07]

I have a 2016 F150 that's still under warranty. Will Ford replace the plastic guides under the warranty? If not, that really sucks.

[@SealofPerfection]

Yes, if you're under 3/36 they should. I've done a couple dozen already.

[@douglasstewartiii6509]

So which of the two products lasts longer? Krytox or Silicone paste?

[@SealofPerfection]

I'd say the Krytox probably lubes it a bit longer, but the paste is so much less expensive that you can lube it more often and still be way ahead

[@TheBanks148]

I have a 2015 f-150 with the panoramic sunroof. The issue I'm having is that when I press the button to make the roof go back, it gets stuck on the drivers side. Will doing this help?

[@SealofPerfection]

TheBanks148 it very well may. If you can push down on the side that won't move enough while you're pushing the button and that makes it work, this will almost certainly fix it

[@TheBanks148]

Pacfanweb I actually have to hit the back button a couple of times before I can get it to move back. I've been observing it the last couple of times that I've tried to let it back. It seems like the seal is catching the back glass seal.

[@TheBanks148]

I ordered some silicone paste. I hope it does the trick.

[@joemattress6177]

Great video!! It works. Thx!

[@joshherbst295]

My Problem is that I can't even get the sunroof open... When you press "open" the glass initiates its process and goes down and then it just gets caught and cannot move backwards. It looks perfectly aligned though and I cant see anything in the way. It will vent, however I tried to close and open from vent and it does the same thing. Any suggestions on getting it open?

[@SealofPerfection]

Is the back seal of the front glass completely clear of the back glass? If not, give it a push downwards. If it is clear, then the guide bracket is probably broken. Ford now has replacement brackets available to fix this. You have to do them in pairs. I just did the first one today.

[@joshherbst295]

Pacfanweb it is completely clear of the glass and I was able to get it to go back one time prior to watching your videos similar to the video I commented on earlier however it will no longer do that it just keeps trying to go back and makes minimal movement in doing so. How does this bracket break? Where would I order the parts and is there a video to show installation? Is this something I can do? Thanks for the reply and help!

[@SealofPerfection]

But it shuts okay? And vents? Sounds like there may be some broken pieces of the guide bracket restricting the movement. If so, front glass needs to be removed and find/fish them out. The parts are available at the dealer only right now. It's not too hard, but there won't be any instructional videos on it yet. I just did literally the first on in this state 2 days ago. I will make one eventually. Weather was bad that day and I was learning also.

[@kranch173]

If i clean and lube the gasket, do i need to reprogram it?

[@SealofPerfection]

You are supposed to, yes. Programming it helps it learn to either push through or stop for resistance, or lack of. Such as: I replaced a track once. Had not swapped over the pop-up deflector yet. Went ahead and programmed it anyway. Then put the deflector in...just the spring pressure that had, when the glass was closing it would feel it, stop and reverse, thinking something was in the way. I had to program it again to account for that bit of pressure, so it's best if you take pressure away (by lubing) that you program it afterwards.

[@kranch173]

Ok, i just noticed as i drive down the road it rattles bad-then i open it and it pops open like it is getting hung up.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@kranch173 Have you lubed it yet?

[@kranch173]

No, to cold or rainy. I will. Called my Ford dealer looking for the stuff , said they dont carry it. They said they use the stuff in the can and spray the rail.

[@kranch173]

My ford dealer recommended just the spray? Where can i purchase the paste at a local store?

[@guaripolo69]

question, did you ever had the plastic pieces break? mine did that the other day, but it still works no problem, but i found those plastic pieces and now i am scared to use it :/

[@SealofPerfection]

Yep, I've had loads of customers bring in broken pieces of plastic and say it came from the sunroof. What that means is that the guide brackets are coming apart, and yes, it will probably cause the sunroof to get stuck if you keep using it. Ford now makes replacement brackets so you don't have to replace the whole track.

[@guaripolo69]

Pacfanweb oh awesome, i kept reading you had to do the whole thing. Is the fix a diy thing? Or still do the seats and headliner need to come out?

[@SealofPerfection]

No, for the new brackets you only have to remove the front glass and it comes out the top. Even for the whole track I don't remove seats, but he headliner does have to be dropped. Which is pretty easy.

[@guaripolo69]

Pacfanweb i am so glad I don't have to spend 2k to replace the whole thing :) thank you so much Hopefully my dealer has the part so I can replace it asap. Again, thank you so much sir!

[@guaripolo69]

is this the part you are talking about: parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/guide-6510359-1 thank you for all the help!

[@DanielRodriguez-oc4fo]

Does anyone know if vaseline will work?

[@SealofPerfection]

It will lube it, yes. Far from the best thing to use, though.

[@jagsidhu4559]

My 2019 Raptor is making really bad squeaking noises. Ford better fix this crap or take it back.