2015 Schoenstein organ - Ladue Chapel, St. Louis, Missouri

[@Nelsonbrook33]

Thank you so much for this beautiful look at another superb Schoenstein installation. Brett, I appreciate so much the work you put into this channel to expose us to so many wonderful instruments we otherwise would never hear. Great job!

[@Aeolian4]

Wonderful instrument, beautifully made.

[@michaelmiller1215]

Very interesting tour of the organ internal parts!

[@garfixit]

Beautiful organ wonderful sound❤❤❤🎶🎵

[@wphubert]

Another Schonestine gem. Very wise decision on the part of the church to listen to people who understand pope organs. Thanks for this video.

[@fnersch3367]

Incredible instrument. Would love to play it.

[@noahpierson440]

HO-LY MOLEY! An HOUR long video! Great job, Brent! Hope you're thinking of coming down here to OK sometime! Keep up the good work!

[@JohnBoyDeere]

Very well done, thorough organ crawl. Many thanks and Blessings!

[@stephenkunst7550]

Thanks for the demo The 4 organs by this builder I have serviced, do not have a 12th. GLAD that this organ has one. I think it is too often left off and too often aggressive high pitched mixtures are inserted on organs. No problem with them in large reverberant rooms, but not in most dead acoustics we suffer in this country.

[@robertramsay5963]

Thanks for showing the pipe chambers. I don't understand how anyone can tune these instruments without dislodging or trampling upon other pipes.

[@richardlowe4751]

The round valves are bleed/outlet valves for the humidifier. They ensure that the humid air can flow though and not get trapped in the soundboard, building up too much humidity.

[@hismajestysmen]

I played the Bosch tracker organ when I was in high school. Thought it made an excellent sound. There is (or was) a smaller Bosch in Lebanon, Illinois, not far from Ladue.

[@dalerider5388]

Interesting

[@jimsummers9704]

They made my dishwasher, too!

[@Sokx41]

Leo Schoenstein installed a used Moller organ into my father's new house--it was designed to incorporate the organ--in 1941 in Atherton, CA. Leo was the brother of the founder of the Schoenstein Organ company but did not participate in his family company in the San Francisco Bay area. The organ was removed sometime after my family moved out in 1962.

[@rbaltimo]

Dave Erwin-went to college with him!

[@markrocovich2234]

Ahhh..talk about a time warp!!!Wicks installed a 12 rank organ in my church in 1971-1972..and two of my favorite stops in the swell were the Lieblich Gedeckt and the Rohr Gedeckt..a wonderful instrument despite its lack of size...

[@mitchquade]

Great video, Brent! You're really setting the standard for these organ videos. Thank you, David, as well. Love to hear from an organist who knows every detail of his organ. Brent, do you ever have reason to be in Lincoln, NE? Another Schoenstein that I think would be fascinating to get your take on is the Lied/Amen Organ(s) at First-Plymouth Church. I don't have any personal connection there, but Tom Trenney, their organist and music director, has a lot of great videos on KZbin, and the organ strikes me as really interesting. Thanks again for all of the great videos!

[@OrganMediaFoundation]

Thanks, Mitch. I am occasionally near or in Lincoln. I know Tom and have played the Schoenstein organ there. I would love to show people that organ someday. It would be a huge project, though!

[@OrganMediaFoundation]

I just remembered we did a whole podcast about that organ a few years ago: www.attheorgan.com/august-16-2015/

[@mitchquade]

@@OrganMediaFoundation Thanks, Brent! Just listened to it--very interesting. I didn't know about their stops that couple the three tubas and clarinets at 8' pitch or the variable wind stops. Thanks again!

[@bobh5087]

A fascinating organ tour. Thank you. I'm wondering what is meant by pipes being "haskelled" (sp?). I'm not familiar with this term. Can anyone educate me on this?

[@phillipbaggio7915]

"Haskelled" pipes are open pipes that have an entrant tube or block in the tops of them to lower their pitch but remain open at the top, as well as still behaving like open pipes. This is a technique that is used mostly on pedal string pipes because Haskell pipes tend to sound string-like. Also, it is used when there isn't enough vertical space. The technique was developed by an organ builder working for the Estey company, C. S. Haskell, who went on to start his own firm, hence the name of his technique. I hope that answered your questions. Nonetheless, great video and great organ.

[@bobh5087]

@@phillipbaggio7915 Thanks for all the info. They say we learn something new every day. I appreciate your reply.

[@karlrovey]

Bosch built my favorite practice organ. It's amazing what 6 ranks can do in a practice organ.

[@jimsummers9704]

They made my dishwasher, too!

[@petermacander5039]

Interesting that they did not paint the console white to match the colonial interior of the chapel. Same thing with the new Randal Dyer console built for FUMC of Orlando, replacing the original white AE-S Opus 1410 Whiteford console in 2008. Are the white colonial churches changing their custom of matching their white interiors with a white console in favor of going with an unmatched brown console?

[@stuartjackson01]

Wonderful instrument, could they please make organ seats that don't creak.

[@Richard-vq7ud]

The organ is magnificent, but imo they forgot the most important feature, acoustics. An organ like that deserves a sanctuary w 100% hard surfaces.

[@Chesterbarnes1]

The Mormon Temple has installed a Schoenstein Pipe Organ, in the Tabernacle is an Aeolian-Skinner much larger

[@Nelsonbrook33]

Actually, I think you may be referring to the Schoenstein organ in the LDS Conference Center. Indeed this organ is smaller than the Tabernacle Skinner, but it's built on a very large scale to fill the room, which seats 21,000. The console is laid out in similar fashion to the Skinner in order to make it easier for the organists to go back and forth between the two. The Schoenstein is a magnificent instrument in every regard.

[@mr.booker9263]

@@Nelsonbrook33 Yes, it's magnificent, but...it ain't the Aeolian-Skinner in the Tabernacle which is unsurpassed!

[@Chesterbarnes1]

@@Nelsonbrook33 No I'm positive I'm correct Nelson. In Salt Lake City the Tabernacle has the old large vintage Aeolian-Skinner Pipe Organ. Also in Salt Lake City the Temple Square which is a newer facility, the sanctuary has a large Schoenstein Pipe Organ. Please check my research out....but I'm certain I'm correct. Chesterbanes. Thanks

[@Chesterbarnes1]

@@Nelsonbrook33 I think we are talking about the same building. I call it the Temple, and you call it the Conference Center, that probably where the rub is. I was thinking about the other Momon Temple in I think Kansas or Missouri, it was a breakaway from the Salt Lake City Mormons. I think it's in Missouri.

[@Nelsonbrook33]

Chester, yes, I think it’s just our nomenclature. Keep in mind that only members can enter Temples except for a brief period after they are built or renovated. Neither the Tabernacle nor the Conference Center is a temple, so non-members can enter them most anytime and hear those two grand instruments.

[@Pipe-organ-recordings]

Nice going 👍

[@praestant8]

The “portals” on the 32’ reed are for the pneumatic starters on the reed tongue.

[@jamespkuzman]

Good golly! You need a Sherpa and a guide if you’re going to get to the blower, and a good set of maps to get around the chests. I’m not sure if I’m horrified or impressed! As someone who gets the heebie jeebies on the second step of a step ladder, I was sweating looking at the myriad pitfalls (complete with warning sings that contain the word “death”). Yikes!

[@jrzzrj]

👍

[@WAX6428]

Dear God, that name plate is a grand display of ............................

[@bryangl1]

An interesting well-thought video of an interesting organ (that sounds very English to me). But I couldn't help but reflect on the number of organs this church has gone through in a relatively short period of time, and the money that has been spent, ending up with a pleasant but not outstanding instrument. Surely some of those funds could have gone in more worthwhile directions.

[@parrotlover9035]

Ladue has plenty of money to toss out "old" organs. It's St Louis' affluent suburb.

[@Richard-vq7ud]

Bryan Leech, imo, they could have improved the acoustics to get a better organ. It is not completely dead, but seems to be minimal reverb. I would rather play a good electric organ w the best acoustics than the best pipe organ w out natural acoustics.

[@bryangl1]

@@Richard-vq7ud Hi Richard. Not sure this is really relevant to my comment but I agree with your thinking ─ the acoustics are a critical component of an organ. As to a digital instrument; that in itself isn't going to solve the acoustic problems of a church, but it's possible to design a sound system for a digital organ that can go a fair way to simulating a good acoustic. The other aspect is that with the best digital organs you can have, at reasonable cost, an instrument superior to a mediocre pipe instrument and/or one with a more versatile specification. Just because an organ has pipes doesn't mean it's inherently a superior instrument.

[@kilgenbuff]

@@bryangl1 I think it is interesting that they started out with Kilgen then went full bore tracker in vogue at the time and finally back to the romantic ensemble that they had in the first place with the Kilgen.

[@renfredclowes4297]

@@Richard-vq7ud Presbyterian churches are notorious for dead acoustical buildings.