2016 450 Motocross Shootout - MotoUSA

[@danoincali831]

So awesome you post such a thorough test online. Other magazine companies only tease you with ads promoting their tests. Thanks guys.

[@andrewford80]

Amen. Best shootout video I've seen in ages. Thanks guys

[@nickclarkuk]

Thank you for posting a proper shootout video! So much better than the offerings from mxa and dirtbike magazine. I'll be buying a 350 sxf as the power is right and I love the electric.

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

yz450 can race around that stage for a year non stop..while all the others we need rebuilds..valve check...last bike standing is yz450...and that is what a rider really needs 100miles away from home...reliability is worth 5 times the price of the bike

[@LolliWANG505]

Crf is more reliable.

[@nortondlcl]

They're all bad ass bikes !

[@TGSP16]

*they're*

[@mmholling87]

+American Inventor I can almost bet you don't ride..

[@TGSP16]

+Mark Holing well you're wrong

[@aklaunch]

The narration and descriptions of this video are as laid back and professional as i have ever seen. Very nice job. Very nice!

[@mworld]

Best motor bike review I have seen to date. Thumbs Up !

[@benc82]

Just bought a 16 yz450f about a month ago. Best purchase ever. Bike is stellar all around.

[@frankhartsell175]

Funny, I have the Suzuki is awesome, I haven't ridden the other bikes, I got a deal on it that's why I bought it. The bike is so easy to ride and handles well, it feels light and small. The forks are fine, again compared to what? I may send out the forks to get re valved because I sure they will be better and I am adding a pipe. If this is the worst bike, Wow!

[@JoeGo101]

I want that Yamaha :D

[@SwiftKill]

Yamahas suck ass big time Kawasaki all the way bro fastest and most powerful bike out there

[@MegaElkHunter1]

+SwiftKill 1234 fastest and most powerful literally got proven by facts in this video bud..

[@MegaElkHunter1]

+SwiftKill 1234 huskies are most powerful and Yamaha's are fastest. sorry bro

[@MegaElkHunter1]

+Steve Johnson they're third in handling behind the KTM and husky which, BTW, are photocopies of each other.. and fastest around a track, yes they are

[@DehxterX]

+SwiftKill 1234 Yamaha is faster than the kawasaki

[@MichaelHayward-ym8ht]

MotoUSA is the only guys who know what the hell there doing in a Shootout great job boys awsome

[@Maicowerk]

Bring back the two stroke and see how much power you can really fit into a small chassis :) These things are heavy.

[@beauthebow812]

Hell yeah! Long live the smokers!

[@infidelmat]

+Opferman Motors Dirtbiking The new KTM 4t's are matching their 2T counterpart weights now. Hopefully the reworked 2017s 2Ts will get them lighter again.

[@TheOfficialKC]

+Zedro nurinburg The reason the 4-strokes are approaching the weight of 2-strokes is they only put about $10 a year into updating the 2-strokes. The only new 2-stroke engine from KTM since 2004 is the 2016 125/150SX and they dropped like 7 pounds from the engine. 2-stroke tech in dirt bikes has mostly been frozen since the mid 90s, so it's no wonder 4-strokes are getting close. So not very impressive that a brand new 450 weighs nearly the same as a 12 year old 2-stroke.

[@infidelmat]

TheOfficialKC totally agree, and the 4ts are probably sacrificing alot of durability in that pursuit. But even if they are the same weight, the 2t will always feel lighter. Perfect singletrack machines.

[@akshooter762]

+Opferman Motors Dirtbiking love my yz250..... im slow any way compared to good rider's don't matter what bike I ride.... 2 strokes are so much more fun.

[@timrussell8193]

Brilliant video, major props!

[@davebrown6904]

Great shootout vid you gave us all the info instead of snippets of bits and pieces like other mags well done guys

[@scottbolen5246]

Great video and great job sharing the details behind the surveys. I always liked Yamaha but they have been working hard to make improvements over the last 5-8 years.

[@miloraca]

rmz450 is a beast!

[@davidatscp]

Thanks for a great review. It would be interesting to do a comparison of the different lap times for 5 laps of a track for riders of different skill levels on each bike. Then it would be interesting to see what level rider (pro, amateur, vet etc) had the best lap time on which bike. I'd be very interested to see how the KTM 350 SFX lap times compared to the 450s!

[@snowfreak551]

I have a WR450F but i would love a RMZ450... Looks like a sweet bike

[@superboy2336]

i have a yz450f the best wheelie bike i ever had

[@MatiasMatusAcebo]

There is some link to see the HP/torque curve comparison with more detail?

[@motorcycleusa]

+Matias Matus Acebo , Get more details in our 450 Shootout article: www.motorcycle-usa.com/2015/11/article/2016-450-motocross-shootout/

[@bwtegu7135]

When is the 2017 450 shootout coming

[@Ammaranjum]

In 2017 LOL

[@Jacklee-qh1cv]

If the Husqvarna is essentially a KTM, will it eventually snap in half and catch fire?

[@Jacklee-qh1cv]

+tubeyou123863 haha you actually feel for it!

[@tubeyou123863]

+Jack lee no i,cant be be bothered with people who comment on a bike thev have no knowledge of

[@Jacklee-qh1cv]

+tubeyou123863 You're not the sharpest tool eh? Probably earn minimum wage, judging by your foul language.

[@tubeyou123863]

+Jack lee no,pretty sure i've got more money in the bank than you will save in your life time....yes pretty sure of that ..talking of tools ,you were the one who originally posted a stupid comment

[@Jacklee-qh1cv]

+tubeyou123863 A stupid comment you fell for.

[@blakemusiccarter3102]

I need that Yamaha!

[@MX-127]

Imo Ktm is an Ez 1st all day with electric start and hydraulic clutch and sick plastics you can't go wrong

[@threefiddyone]

I never thought Id say this, but man I really want a Husky now

[@shereemitch]

Love all the in depth info, Great Job!!!!!

[@deadeyenic6833]

What about the yamaha yz450fx? Is it the same but with some other stuff?

[@draykemooney2994]

+DeadEyeNic That is a trail bike, comparing to the KTM 450XCF

[@DiggersDozers]

Please review the CHRISTINI AWD 450DS Nobody has given it a proper review

[@markjackson7650]

I'm thinking of buying a husqvarna fc however I'm put off a little by the air fork being considered high maintenance and very difficult to get dialled in could anyone with a bike with air forks or better yet a new husky share their experiences with air forks and how often they require maintained thanks

[@Motoxryder247]

What about the Husqvarna FC 350? if your throwing in the ktm 350!!!!

[@jonathanoxlade4252]

husky is a KTM this is why it's pointless buying a husky they run the same engine

[@infidelmat]

+jonathan oxlade the trail bikes are tuned different tho, people tend to prefer the Husky tuned suspension on the trail, the power delivery might be different too, not sure. No idea if they do that for the mx models tho.

[@johnsmith-hi4kk]

Congrats on showing us punters the full test!!!

[@scottmetz728]

what was the weight of the kx450f?

[@mathewmansell1738]

1 tone. still wunt one?

[@scottmetz728]

got one

[@motorcycleusa]

+Scott Metz , weight for each bike is listed in the conclusion of our 450 shootout article: www.motorcycle-usa.com/2015/11/article/2016-450-motocross-shootout/

[@PS3REACTIONSv2]

Gotta give it to KTM to see how far they have come with there motocross bikes. Need to see Suzuki do some updates i have a 2012 rmz250 and besides this 2016 model it seems that it hasn't changed in 10 years. Kinda disappointing to see that when they have had so many years to step it up... Good to see Yamaha and KTM at the top. It will be interesting to the sale numbers for the two bikes.

[@younggungarage5303]

I ride a 2015 rmz 250 and I am disapointed with them not changing the bike in a while too. I still love the rmz and I did way more than I thought especially after riding a yz250f

[@KathiellydosSantos]

só falto a aprilia sxv 450 !

[@steviedee71]

Now there's a proper shootout video no stupid robot voice and bullshit music Thank you! 💯👍

[@dukecorso80]

Pls do this for sport atv if u havent already

[@dukecorso80]

+Steve Johnson im not a quad rider but i thought it would of been cool to see whats new in 2016 in the sport quad world.

[@theDugonator]

Which classes can you ride a 350 in?

[@Thom1883]

+Joe Mamma the 450 class.

[@billmcgregor4112]

If you're a really small/light rider, the 350f would work well in a nationals setting against the 450s.

[@dave32228]

They are to hard on the rmz ... I think its a good looking bike . This comparison is only for pros who ride the bikes to there max and honestly can you really tell the difference with 2 or 3 extra horses ... I doubt it .. Maybe I don't know anything but I know I love the rmz 450 . I just bought one .

[@MrSkidelite]

Street Hawk... your right mate that's my opinion aswell these guys ride everyday and different bikes all the time so they are able to notice pros and cons otherwise there all great bikes and these shootouts are still a good guide

[@LolliWANG505]

The video says that the ratings depend on age and skill level

[@LolliWANG505]

And yes 2 to 3 hp on a dirtbike is a huge difference

[@mma866]

Which one has the highest top speed?

[@devingiles5576]

that doesnt matter in motocross

[@mma866]

Yeah I know, but I'm planning to buying one, I'm not gonna use it for motocross, so I need to know which one is the fastest 😁

[@devingiles5576]

chill out development the ktm or kawi

[@mma866]

Thanks man

[@mma866]

You right, I was thinking about buying 250cc but then I thought that I after some time I will to upgrade the motorcycle to go faster, so I think the best solution is to buy 450cc straight away. No it won't be my first ride. Btw I'm not tall but heavy 😁

[@jerryp1392]

The husky may have the most horsepower, but like they said yamaha has the most usable horsepower.

[@mathewmansell1738]

you can't beat the electric start it is awesome! the only way to beat them is to join them. the day's of kick starting are gone. not trying to sound lazy! y kick! just push the button. great vid.....😎

[@colbytobin7917]

Steve, I think you can buy something from KTM that adds a kickstart while maintaining the electric start, but it (obviously) costs extra. Some redundancy would have been nice, like you said just in case, but I think it was out to keep weight down with electric start. Electric start and kickstart weighs more than just the electric, and they wanted to make it as light as their design allowed.

[@glenne3868]

Y no betas ?

[@mxr7586]

I have the 16 Yamaha 450 all I did is change the front tire and bring the forks up a little and it corners awesome and the motor just pulls and can be ridin a gear up with no problem.

[@n2motocross]

This is how a shootout is suppose to be done. Bike analysis and bike sounds without the crappy music that some mags use.

[@goyslop4289]

good comparison vid unlike many others where they ride the bikes around for 5 minutes with music blaring lol.

[@stevemack389sm]

it's not like how u get the bike and a few clicks this way or that wat and a pipe and silencer and jet's or bigger piston an bore ur cillinder an heads and there's all ur power an reeds

[@stevemack389sm]

it was said that the Yamaha won because of overall comfort and other than that I mean like I said if u don't have the computer plug in system to change your motor spec's ur stuck with whatever ur stock bike is set at

[@vivalaphill]

you forgot the composite subframe that the Husky has, compared to the aluminium KTM subframe

[@MrKdr500]

+vivalaphill 9:35 selective hearing?

[@vivalaphill]

+MrKdr500 ahh shit didn´t hear that. thanks

[@TheOfficialKC]

The reason the air vs coil spring forks debate isn't as heated as 2-stroke vs 4-stroke is because people have realized that air forks suck compared to coil. Not much to debate.

[@jaysonwatts7853]

Great info! You guys are awesome!

[@stevemack389sm]

now yea u buy the bike but u have to buy over 5 grand worth of computer plugins and to dial in settings an suspension pump's whatever else just to get the bike the way you want

[@64maxpower]

glad everyone likes thier super techno 450s. 10k you can have one too

[@skimbo72]

Brilliant - cheers guys!

[@s.backes4917]

Would like to see a 400-450 supermoto shootout

[@Sejz577]

Best shootout 4shoo!!

[@ВиталийГасанов-е3з]

так что ямаха победила ? и что такой темы на русском нет.

[@ВиталийГасанов-е3з]

Спасибо добрый человек

[@craigloomis20]

excellent review

[@andrewpoulson2584]

I still don't get how husky and ktm took third and second

[@XxHackerxX014]

The yz450f is the most improved bike and has much more features

[@MrIh8hondas]

Who would have thought ten years ago that KTM could make a bike that handled? I love current KTM (desperately want a new 250SX), but their pre-2007 bikes handled horribly.

[@Adam_Krezai]

in the words of Royaljordanian: people buy a husky for its heritage. people buy a ktm because they want a ktm. thats the diference between them

[@coreycouch9841]

Yamaha and Kawasaki all day ! for me ! I'm 240 pounds 6 foot 7 inches

[@joeljanssen8986]

the ktm also has air forks

[@colbytobin7917]

Not yet. 2016 still runs the 4CS fork. Next year they're using the WP AER48 fork or something. Thought it wasn't a pure air fork either, could be wrong though.

[@Kawasakimoon88]

Was it just me or did it look like the kx450f was getting head shake?

[@stevemack389sm]

if you all seen the spec's it shows the FASTER bike and the most power and EVERYTHING else so just cause Yamaha so called won the shootout it wasn't nothing but comfortable and in handling

[@cheyennemarceau9345]

that husqvarna is beautiful!?

[@sebe1015]

I would still go with the Honda.

[@catalyst7809]

Honda is way better than 6th

[@haydenchandler9217]

No it's not aha the suzukis way better then 7th

[@catalyst7809]

Hayden Chandler no. My statement is the correct one.

[@luvinruano9720]

You are wrong Suzuki's are life!

[@catalyst7809]

Luvin Ruano no

[@hondaalldayh.a.d8877]

Suzuki is the ugliest bike out there and doesn't compare to Honda at all

[@zbb2stillalive]

cool bikes! bam first comment!

[@ljwalsh17]

I still go kx all the way its never failed yet and it never will

[@yamahadt241]

my friend is talkin sh!t that ktm 450 SX-F has 68 hp answer pls????

[@RandomVideos11100]

Thats hp at the crank. The dyno shows wheel hp

[@yamahadt241]

Liam Ryan thank you

[@chandlerharrison539]

I knew it yz is the best

[@bobeleksen8386]

1 rmz

[@steviedee71]

Now there's a proper shootout video none of this bullshit music stupid robot voice! Thank you! 💯👍

[@stevemack389sm]

I rather try and go back a few years ago before they really complicated things with mode's and all that other shit that messes with their electrical system and ENGINE and if with the new bikes if one off the engine is off an your going be screwed

[@supersubes]

So what you're saying is you haven't ridden any of the new bikes? These things are way way better in any circumstance, that the bikes of 5 years ago. No manufacturer is gonna go backwards, and offer less. What you propose is doing just that.

[@RyanMcIntyre]

+BIKES BLADES/GUN'S I'll second what +supersubes just said. Plus, you haven't seen anything yet; if you long for the caveman era of motorcycles, get one now because they're only getting more electronics in the next 5 years. If you want a glimpse into MX future, look at the current Yamaha R1.

[@jamionautry6843]

can't wait to get me a Husqvarna tomorrow🙌

[@swifttone]

1st. love it!

[@mesranhobbies3799]

padu dan mantap

[@grantoyamaha]

Yamaha rules

[@KOSx15]

Yamaha ftw!

[@Randomhero44122]

Yamaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@stupidmoto]

aaaaaaand the Suzuki won the 2016 outdoor motocross championship

[@hussledrops2648]

come on Suzuki step up your game.

[@stevemack389sm]

basically if u don't have the computer to dial in ur settings ur fucked now there's buttons and settings to change how about the 2strokes it was so much more easier

[@haydenchandler9217]

I ride 2 strokes and big fan but I have my 2 stroke as my practice bike and four stroke as race bike and you don't really have to do anything but I get what you mean if you start messing with them your fucked

[@stevemack389sm]

If there is a way that we could put the low end torque from the 4 stroke into the top end of the two stroke and power than there's the perfect bike right there all together right there! But how the hell do you make that happen? It's an idea but it's an awesome reality if it can happen! And if it did happen or does happen I can't Patton it cuz I don't know how to build it..... It will be the best of the best of the best of the best bikes in the whole world.....

[@stevemack389sm]

The one bike that's actually come close is the betta 300 RR and now the new betta X I think it is I don't know how I forgot the actual full name. But it does have a nice low end torque but it really don't have that big nice topping but it's just an indoor 04 and oral riding so when you're in Doral racing or riding you really don't need too much hi and how are you just need a lot of talk to get you through obstacles! But like I said the betta is the best 2 stroke in my opinion so far but KTM seems to be dominating!

[@mistergc.c.481]

honda is the Best number 1.

[@vevohoeyo]

the voice on this video is terrible

[@Itzak15]

I just pick the one with the most stickers

[@albertptran]

ARiemann1 likes Yamaha suspension.

[@johnathanyinger]

Tryin' to catch Trey Canard on da Yamaha, on da Yamaha 13:38

[@haydenchandler9217]

That was Adam enticknap dumb ass

[@johnathanyinger]

Hayden Chandler No fucking way!? Have you even seen Moto 7 shithead? If you did, you would understand the joke I was making.

[@devodar2579]

What's really funny is that the Suzuki takes more titles than all, even as this article is applicable Rockzen is taking the outdoor title. Go smoke that in your pipe

[@MotoMarv-Micahboy]

Great Shootout! I want either the Yz or KTM, but will take any bike if it's given to me!😃 #Islandridersatvmc

[@weeb5707]

Let’s Go Yamaha YZ450F Owners🥱💙

[@jaymarrosario9456]

Still love the Kawasaki

[@Bakersfanclub]

Yz and crf

[@Rapbando]

KTM 350 SX-F IS DA BIKE!

[@HenkeEdge]

+Rapbando Yeah think I´ll keep my 2014 =)

[@nickestnickthereis]

+HenkeEdge yeah think ill keep my 01 yz250 smoker

[@Thom1883]

+HenkeEdge I'll keep my 2013 KTM 350 SX-F :)

[@gamer2350]

I'll keep my 2014 250xcw

[@chris425amp7]

Yamaha ☝

[@dfcvda]

63 harley owners looking for a HD motorcross bike..

[@smiteriuszryceriusz1258]

Yamaha 1th Ktm 2th Husqvarna 3th Kawasaki 4th Ktm 5th Honda 6thSuzuki 7th

[@ceethelight1239]

Always loved Yamaha but as for me kick starting these bikes suck electric is the way love the ktm or husky .

[@panditch_za3001]

Suzuki😥

[@dergerat2352]

💪💪👍👍👍