2016 Triumph Trophy Review

This is my first impressions type review of the 2016 Triumph Trophy, a "full dress tourer" that Triumph introduced to take a slice of sales from BMW's class leading R1200RT....have they succeeded??

[@gordonzolla]

Hi, I know the review is quite old now but I thought I'd just add a wee note to say that when the screen goes down, once you switch the bike off. Switching it back on will return it to the position you had it in the last time you rode it. I'm also 5'8" and ended up having to buy a set of dog bones to bring the height down a little. Before I installed them I had unfortunately dropped the bike a cpl of times. Now, though, it's far better, and although the suspension is electronically adjustable, it made no difference to the actual working of the pre-set modes.

[@slipperyfish]

Having the triple cylinder engine gives boat loads of low end torque, and it really does make it a very easy bike to ride, incredibly easy and relaxing experience, but will still throw down in the corners in ways you wouldn't believe by looking at it.

[@theoapbiker8398]

Another excellent video! I think I am in a position to comment as I have owned both the Triumph Trophy SE & the BMW R 1200 RT LE. I had the Trophy for 18 months & put 11,500 miles on the clock with no problems whatsoever! As for the RT I owned it for 16 months & put on 12,700 miles & again no problems whatsoever! If I had to pick one over the other it would be the Trophy simply because it is in my opinion the most comfortable bike for touring which I did throughout Europe but most importantly for some people it is a lot cheaper too! My present bike is a BMW R 1200 GS Adventure TE 2016 Model & love that too!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for that Robert - as you say a great position to comment! Was the RT the current liquid cooled model? I ask because if I had to choose, then I think the BMW was a nicer bike overall....but then I've ridden neither for hundreds of miles (and like you, I love my GS)....

[@theoapbiker8398]

The RT was the Liquid Cooled engine & one of the first. I say the Trophy only because you are getting the same 'toys' on the Trophy as you would on the RT but for a lot less money & the fact it handles just as good as the RT & also I really found it much more comfortable on long trips in Europe.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Got ya - yes, I was conveniently forgetting the BMW is a much more expensive machine when fully spec'ed up....

[@colingoldthorpe3249]

I agree OAP in Canada the BMW is $12,000 more than my Trophy was brand new which for me was a no-brainer. Plus I'm an Englishman, and it's all about principal :-)

[@nurglerider781]

I know this is a bit of an older video but as I just recently test rode this bike and am actually buying the one I rode this week for future touring with the better half, I wanted to give my input in case it helps other viewers. I have four inches over MF and I found at max screen height no wind at all so either the deflection is enough or perhaps they modified the screen some. I do agree with MF though that I don't like looking through the screen. While it is a heavy bike numbers wise I was amazed at how light it felt both standing and riding. I never felt like I was at risk of dropping it though I agree a pillion + luggage might change that. While I do agree that it would be excellent on the motorway my test ride involved some twisties and I felt like it carved them up great. I absolutely hate riding on freeways so alternate routes with lots of turns are no problem imo. The suspension was great and the motor is, as MF states, incredible. I didn't play with any of the electronics or other features because they are just veneer imo I cared only about how it was to ride and the weight. The short story is, I sat down on the bike just to feel the weight still not convinced I wanted a "flying couch" (as I call the big touring bikes) to 30 minutes later after the test ride saying "I want this bike right now!". It really was that amazing. The salesman (someone I've known and trusted for years) just laughed and said that he knew I'd want it as soon as I rode it because the exact same thing happened to him when he bought his.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations and enjoy the new bike Nurgle - might become a bit of a classic that as I heard a rumour (well read it in MCN) that Triumph have now stopped production of the Trophy......not sure if that's true or not....

[@nurglerider781]

Yep my dealership said it's being put on a production hold. I think they are doing one of their line up re-works. Certainly they seem to be putting a lot of focus on the classic line. We still don't know the fate of the Daytona either though I'm holding out hope for a 765 version for MY2018.

[@trixie5111]

Nice review as always. I've just bought one of these and agree fully with your comments. I must say I've fallen in love with it very quickly. Can't wait to get some serious touring done. Love the channel, keep the videos coming.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Richard and congratulations on the new bike...enjoy!

[@gopher1471]

Owning one of these and having had both the RT and the K1600, I can say it drops somewhere in between. Suprisingly nimble, great engine ,gearbox and dead easy controls. Well made,no rust yet and very reliable, oh and a lot cheaper to buy and service than either BM.It can feel heavy at rest, is noisy at times, character ?? and some feel it vibrates, its a triple after all. Anyway nice to know your thoughts on the bike, ride safe. :)

[@stuartmcloughlin]

Completely agree. I had a 2015 K1600 and got rid of it last year and bought the Trophy 1215 SE - maybe not as refined as the K1600 but value for money wise it was a no brainer. Easy to service (unlike the K1600!) and a very nice to drive all round. Very nimble bike considering the size.

[@IkeBrider]

For anybody still riding or considering one of these beauties, pillion is a dream. My Mrs is about the same size as Mrs. Flyer and I barely know when she is on the back. That said, my Mrs is an excellent pillion.

[@jimcoleman3444]

Have a 2013 se. Your review of the bike is right on. I ride two up a lot and my wife loves to be aboard. Storage is a problem for two up. The kick stand could be taller. I’m 6 ft tall no problem with bike hight. Seat is very comfortable. Top case could use more padding for the passenger. The bike is very nimble and is a cornering champ especially two up. Reliability is superb. Have all maintenance done by dealer. Absolutely no issues with the bike. Goes 300 miles plus on a tank of gas. Have 65000 miles on her. Really not that much for a 9 year old bike. I looked at a new 2023 art. Sweet looking bike with all the bells and whistles. Very nice machine, but I just can’t justify spending $30 large for a new one.

[@seannicholas363]

I bought a 2013 TTSE 2 months ago after looking for a another bike and big tourer for quite a while. 12k miles, 2 owners, FTSH, from a Triumph dealer for under £7k. Amazing bike, great bang for buck, handles fantastically and compared to my S1000XR and KTM1190A it's not as fast but has endless grunt is all-day comfortable; the engine is just beautiful. I've put 2k on it in 8 weeks and the only things that annoy me are the small topbox (doesn't take two helmets) and the fact that it's difficult to find much aftermarket dedicated kit for it. Build quality far exceeds BMW and yes, it is heavy but in comparison to a Goldwing or K16, it's light. Weather protection (mine has a Vstream screen) is the best I've experienced. It's also fitted with a Pipewerx (UK made) exhaust that gives it a lovely howl when you give it the beans. Brilliant bike and you won't find many used bikes out there where you get so much for your money.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you like it! Enjoy….

[@grampageorge3407]

I have a 2014 model,so far I have put 21k on it and it still great fun to ride.

[@stardustdreamfactory1947]

Love this virtual bike tour on UK roads riding the Trophy! I just made a verbal commitment to purchase the new '15 Trophy from my dealer. Insurance about 25% higher. Deep discount and nearly every factory accessory installed before delivery. Never took my '08 Sprint on a long trip as 120 miles was crippling me and the '08 was more comfortable than my previous '01 Sprint. Age I suppose.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Great :0)

[@stardustdreamfactory1947]

My dealer has a left over blue '15 - I want it badly!

[@johnball4983]

Thanks for the review. Earlier in the week I had the good fortune to bump into a guy (while queuing for the ferry to Belfast) who'd just taken delivery of one of these. I'm sure they are every bit as good as a BMW. Which in fact he'd traded his old RT in for the Trophy (sadly he'd had quite a few problems with his old RT). Anyhow I thoroughly recommend Ireland to you. The roads are brilliant and four cars in-a-line is a traffic jam over there. Also- the Craic was mighty and the Guineess was smooth. 😂. p.s. Have you been watching Royal Jordanian on his tour in South Africa? He's riding our GS's and he surely makes it shift on those dirt roads. Gladdens the heart to see the GS in its natural habitat. 😊

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Hi John - Yes I have been watching RJ's exploits, and enjoyed watching him on the GS. Thanks for the recommendation re Ireland - it's defo on the bucket list! Thanks for stopping by, all the best - TMF

[@dennism1919]

Hey Andy! It's fun to go back and re-watch certain pieces of interest. Funny I never commented on this one! I could tell in the way you covered this bike that you weren't moved by it. I got the impression it was just too much bike. That's fair, it is a fairly big machine. She's a WIDE machine, which can make her difficult to handle at slow speeds etc. But that is also what makes it ride so nice. This is a fantastic bike. I fell in love with this bike in 2014 when I first saw it at the international bike show. It was a bit too expensive for me then, but something always told me I would own one some day. I got to finally make that wish come true in 2017 when I was lucky enough to come across a brand new SE in Phantom Black with 3 miles on the clock. It was the last Black one they had. Needless to say I made an incredible deal on it and brought her home. 3 years later I am still in love! I agree with your assessment that the bike isn't as punchy as, say, the RT. But I prefer the triple. Far more character. And it's plenty fast, fast enough for me anyway. Brakes, suspension etc. is world-class. And what it lacks in punch, it more than makes up for in pure luxury. With near sport bike handling. And incredible range! I just had a custom made Corbin Touring Saddle fitted, and let me tell you, out on the road there is not a better place to be! Imagine what this bike could have been if they would have developed it like BMW continues to do with the RT. Oh well, what might have been. Anyway, thanks for the walk down memory lane. For me, the story continues. I wish you good weather and open roads. Cheers!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Dennis - I so wanted to love the Trophy as on paper it sounded great - it was just so heavy at standstill (as is the Tiger 1200 which shares the engine), I guess others felt the same as Triumph soon dropped it from the line-up, if you can handle the top heavy weight then as you say a cracking machine! All the best - Andy

[@gwynnromano5881]

As far as copying BMW, I think once you start designing a bike in the wind tunnel, you end up with a similar profile as physics dictates air management. Here in the USA, the Triumph enjoys a big price advantage over the RT, also over here, BMW suffers a reputation of being quite expensive to maintain and a spotty dealer network once you leave the northeast and the west coast. The old saw is that after the bike is out of warranty, BMW stands for "bring my wallet."

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+gwynn romano Sounds about right Gwynn!! Interesting to hear your perspective and take your point re the wind tunnel - thanks for stopping by, all the best - TMF

[@listairgin]

gwynn romano I won't buy a BMW ever again for the very reason you have stated.

[@RBEmerson]

Thanks for adding to my info for making the "which bike wins" decision. FWIW you mentioned the TTSE doesn't demand a lot of shifting. The RT, by comparison, goes on strike if the R's drop much below 3K - "ride it like you hate it" was how it became in the Alps. One thing I'd like to see is the TTSE in twistier roads.

[@RBEmerson]

Um, er, well, yeah, the TTSE wasn't very demanding with the gears. But in the twisties, it was a nightmare. It kept giving me conflicting signals. Start into a tight turn, and it would actually /resist/ the turn. And, at the same time, do little wobbles. Say what?!? My first thought was the air pressure was off. I specifically checked that before leaving - the display pressures looked good, too. This was a dealer's used bike, but I know the seller and his reputation is outstanding. Bottom line: I gave up. IIRC this is only the second bike left me cutting the demo short. Nice on the road, quick to come up to speed (80mph/130 kmh), comfortable, but the steering was a mess. I suspect there's something up with that particular bike. NTL I was borderline on the TTSE to start, and this put me on the "no thanks" side of the line. My FJR is due in the next few days. While looking for a TTSE, I found two used TTSE's with 100 miles or less on them, each at a different, unconnected dealer. Either buyer's remorse, threat of divorce, or poor steering... you decide. FWIW, if my sources are right, this is the last year for the TTSE. It appears that Triumph have decided the sports-touring isn't doing well for them.

[@johnbuchanan3671]

Excellent review of what is needed for a touring bike... Wet weather happens more then you like. But it's almost always prove how good a bike, tires & rider is to the situation. 👍

[@Reclaim68]

I had a TT from 13-16 and enjoyed it very much. I'd have bought another only Triumph discontinued the bike.I heard various reasons..emmisions not being up to EU standard, etc but I think really it just wasn't selling enough. I'm now a RT1200 owner and very happy. There are times when I miss the Triple and the tank range on the Trophy was better than the RT but overall I think the RT is a better machine. It's got bit more poke and I love the look of the bike. I like the Hill hold control and the daytime running light. The quick shifter is useful although you don't use it all the time. The Triumph luggage was really good but so is the RT's and the BMW top box is better, the addition of the brake light is a plus in my view. Both lovely machines but I'm more than happy to be a RT rider now.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Do you notice much difference in weight?

[@Reclaim68]

Yeah when walking the bike, the RT is definitely more manageable. I think about 270kg wet compared to over 300 for the TT!@@TheMissendenFlyer

[@akepettersson4847]

I met a swedish guy with his girlfriend earlier today with this bike , but a 2013. He bought it new and he has driven 134.000 km with the Triumph. And he has serviced according to the instruction manual and replaced wearing parts at his Triumph dealer , never had a problem. The panniers was full with stickers from places all over Europe. But I haven’t seen much Trophy’s out here in Sweden. ( I was searching testdrives , therefore yours came up 😉 ).

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Don’t know if I’ve ever seen one on the road here!

[@akepettersson4847]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Well ; this bike deserves to be seen more ! I think this one is a bargain !

[@rowlandgilbey7494]

Another great review as expected.....can I ask what seat was you using, standard or low and is it more comfy than the RT LC. I have the RT LC and the seat is not good. the reason I ask about the seat is we are both 5' 8".

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

It was the standard seat....and I have to say the RT LC is the better bike in every way in my opinion....sorry Triumph!

[@rowlandgilbey7494]

For me the uncomfy seat is a big down side on the RT, it's a BMW don't look into this and the after market options are expensive.

[@GIGABACHI]

I could use something like this VERY much. Gotta start saving. Good work, Mr. Flyer.

[@busterrabbit]

As ever a great, balanced review. I'd go for the RT, mainly because the extra weight and higher c of g of the Triumph makes it harder to handle and walk/push around (I'm 5' 8" too). In fact the Trophy feels heavier than my old K1600GT which is in a totally different league in almost every respect.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I think I'd go for the RT too for that very reason, the Trophy felt heavy at rest and the RT didn't - that plus I think the RT overall is a better bike - colour screen, integrated GPS, more oomph, etc (purely only based on the two brief rides I've had on each)...

[@itsthebike6672]

Good review. May I suggest you mention your leg inseam in inches instead of your height when sitting on a bike? Thank you for this video.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks and sure (if only I knew what it was!!)

[@SirBitchalot]

Hah. if I take the measurement from the very tip of my "Sir Bitchalot" then my inseam is 2". ;-)

[@GordonHunter]

Great reviews - keep them coming. One area of interest is the ease to which you can pull a bike of this weight out the garage, turn it around etc - this would potentially put me off what otherwise might be a great bike - some tips and comments appreciated - try the K1600 GLT next!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes the Trophy is a big ol girl to manoeuvre on the driveway, it would put me off this machine too (the lower weight of the BMW RT is much easier to deal with when lugging around)....the GTL is on the list! Thanks for your kind comments - TMF

[@brucejones4383]

I should add regarding weight, it is similar to the weight of the ST1300 so that is not a factor for me. The CofG is higher though, although I have already taken the Trophy on dirt roads without mishap.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Wow, brave man Bruce! Was that on purpose???!

[@brucejones4383]

Only in the sense that sometimes you need to go on dirt of various kinds. I felt reasonably confident though as the balance of the Trophy is superb. Notably I was a LOT more nervous riding a BMW K1200LT I once had. With that bike, I did everything I could to avoid dirt and would be wet with perspiration if I did go on dirt, even in the middle of winter.

[@brucejones4383]

Like your review. I rode the R1200RT model prior to the partial liquid cooling and as I was coming off a Honda ST1300, found the handling and smoothness suited me better on the Trophy (I now own a 2013 model). The serendipity I found, particularly relevant here in Australia, is the range. I'm not sure of the mpg translation but I calculate touring distances on 4.3 ltrs/100 kms which, combined with the 26 ltr tank, allows me to rely on 500kms, or refuelling after 400 kms.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Hey Bruce, yes good point re range - I can see why that may be important down there! Thanks for the kind words and thanks for stopping by - all the best - TMF

[@alexmorgan3435]

Hi TMF, Nice review. I totally get what you say about the Trophy. I test rode one, albeit an older model, before I got my Sprint 1050, and it felt like riding a cruise liner. Seems to me that Triumph Triples have quite a high CoG as my Sprint can be quite top heavy at low speeds and manoeuvring it I have to careful. Like you I am not the tallest. Don't know about the Street Triple though, whether this has a lower CoG? For these types of large over 1 litre long distance touring bikes you can't beat the old Honda Blackbird, although it doesn't have all the modern trickery on it, it was immensely comfortable and a fantastic engine. But your GS is rather a different type of bike altogether having more off road capabilities. I'd like to see you green laning on the Trophy. Maybe one day I will submit to the GS way ...... but not yet ;@)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Alex Morgan Green landing on the Trophy!!! Now there's the stuff of nightmares :-0

[@alexmorgan3435]

It would be up there with BVGrumble green laning on his Suzuki GSXR. You have to watch this one if you've not seen it. MF - What is your Street Triple R like riding in terms of CoG / height?

[@dennisgreene7164]

The TTSE weight is distributed extremely well given the nature of the triple engine. I have been riding one now for nearly a month. The fuel tank is wide and low to help weight distribution also. I agree that the switch gear is a bit iffy and definitely needs illumination at night. But handling is superb, comfort excellent. Shame Triumph didn't give it a longer run for its money but I am guessing the market decline and Covid meant it was too late to the party. That doesn't stop it being a great British bike, I'd say.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I just don't think it could compete in the market against the BMW RT which is so much better to ride....so they dropped it.

[@dennisgreene7164]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Planning to take mine to Spain this year so I'll keep you posted. Never had a prob with it so far two-up - better than my old Pan tbh

[@janiceparsons6475]

Adding the Triumph Tiger mirrors really makes the difference for me - the plugged mounting bosses are already there.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Really? I thought the Trophy mirrors were pretty good....

[@janiceparsons6475]

TMF - Find one to ride with the Tiger mirrors installed and tell us what you think. I found myself constantly looking over my shoulders when using the factory fairing mounted mirrors alone - a bit disconcerting. The different mirrors do compliment each other - good to have both.

[@MotoGoYo]

Will have to try one. The RT doesn't have quite the same level of GPS integration as the GS unfortunately.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+gadgetsandwheels No, and that's a major plus of the BMW in my view...

[@lawnranger3432]

Very nice review. I currently own a 2015 TTES and a 2013 BMW K1600. About a week ago I test rode a new 1200 RT. I felt the handling and the power of the Trophy vs RT very similar. I like the handlebar controls on the RT MUCH better than the Trophy. I have thoroughly enjoyed the Trophy for the last 18000 miles except for one thing I simply cannot get past,......the mechanical noise coming through the fairing while riding. Probably some of the problem is coming from 20 years riding a Gold Wing (super mechanically quite) and the K1600 is pretty good also. Right now I have the new RT in my sight for next spring. The K1600 stays as it is in a class of its own.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes to me the RT was leagues above the Trophy, definitely the bike I'd have if I was in the market for one of these (although I've not yet ridden the K1600 so I reserve the right to change my mind!)....

[@lawnranger3432]

For the last 16 years I have owned at least two motorcycles at once and at one time 5. The K1600 has been the only motorcycle, among many, that I probably could have gotten by with just one and be satisfied. The K1600 has the power/thrill of a sport bike yet the comfort of a cross country cruiser. The one thing it doesn't have is the light weight and easy maneuverability of the Trophy or the RT.

[@mikeburton7662]

I've been riding my '15 Explorer for the last 6 years and have just bought a '13 Trophy SE. Can't wait to evaluate the differences, particularly seeing as they share the same engine.......which is a beaut.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

They are both similalry heavy - but great bikes on paper.....and rarities now!

[@mikeburton7662]

@@TheMissendenFlyer I regret letting the Explorer go. Long story though.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Sorry to hear that!

[@Ian-bq7gp]

The explorer is something else and would be so versatile for on and off road. The trophy is an absolute bargain. In the real bikers world it's a no brainer so well built and built for high mileage for less than Ferrari or Rolls Royce type service bills.

[@gunton21]

nice review, TMF, I had a gtr 1400 for three years and for me yes they are comfortable, have all the toys, loved the car type mirrors and electric screen, but found it heavy when maneovering and at slow speeds, didn't like the short distance between pegs and seat, I did 1,300 miles on mine in one day two up, tried a trophy on demo and would totally agree with your review, bfn.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad we agree Peter - and I'm with you, it's the seat to peg distance that is too short (I hadn't thought of it like that) - great cruisers but that weight would be a killer on my gravel driveway and in the garage!!

[@stevesixtysix7630]

See what you mean by the same sound as an old Mini..........those were the days........good review as always, you must be on first name terms with the guys at Hemel triumph!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

well I am now :0)

[@stephenhadley2490]

Watching the back catalogue as I’m in the market for a budget tourer. These bikes are dirt cheap second hand. Might be a good choice as a dedicated mile muncher.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

So very heavy at a standstill though....I’d take an older RT any day....

[@lipsee100]

I have an RT ,I think the downside of these kind of bikes is hot weather,,behind big fairings in hot weather ,my gawd you just cook...The weight of the RT is as much as I can manage,,although I have not tried the Trophy I suspect it just too heavy for me!!! oh yeah good reveiw..

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Lipsee100, yes I've not thought of the heat thing, but I suppose you can just wear your Summer gear for longer! Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated - TMF

[@paulmoncaster5870]

Having a look at one on a 15 plate this saturday and thinking of swapping in my 06 k1250 - thoughts ?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Don’t do it!!! Very heavy bike...

[@paulmoncaster5870]

@@TheMissendenFlyer lol im 6' 1 and 18 stone i think ill be ok bud nice video you put up btw 👍

[@jeffveraart2695]

I'm a boxer man myself but I do like how that tripple sounds.

[@dl0454]

Great review. What sound equipment do you use? I cannot get rid of the wind noise??

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Doug Lord I just use a £9 lavalier mic from E-Bay taped inside my helmet, experimenting with position is the key I think.....good luck!

[@Ian-bq7gp]

I've had a triumph Daytona 900. What a solid over engineered lump, so stable on the motorway and I did 100 miles a day going to work and back even in the winter. What a lovely, torquey economical bike it was, a great gearbox. This trophy will be far better. No sprag clutch weakness for example and it will be very robust with shaft drive too and far cheaper than BMW for spares and servicing and a bargain . In the real world it's certainly a no trainer to buy especially as when the warranty is finished you don't want to keep the BMW which will become a moneypit and I've heard some stories about shaft drives giving problems.

[@112oxford]

Hi TMF, Another great review 😀. If you get a chance I recommend you take a Kawasaki 1400 GTR for a spin. I own one and can't believe it's sheer power. It may not have all the bells and whistles but riding it is second only to a ZZR 1400 (on which it's based).

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+TigerRider Hi TigerRider - yes I'd very much like a go on the big Kwak, I just need to find a friendly Kawasaki dealer who is willing to lend me one! I only read good things about the GTR and I think it looks fabulous.....great value too especially when compared to the Trophy or RT. Thanks for stopping by, all the best - TMF

[@davewilton3101]

I have a 2012 GTR. Got a custom seat and the McCruise cruise control. Power is lovely. Put PR4 tires on and it handles very well for a 300+kg machine. Plus there's lots of people who have put 100,000+ miles on with no problems. Many with much higher mileage. Only negative point is the top heaviness that affects low speed handling but you get accustomed to it.

[@1A2Blueboy]

Great review as always, in fact I just swapped my Tiger 800 XCX for a new Trophy as I like Triumph but wanted the comfort. I tried Boxers and I know they are good but just couldn't take to the gearbox even though they have improved a lot. Plus I like British engineering just like the Beagle Pup series 2 150 I used to own/fly ;)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yeah I get the whole Triumph thing too 1A2Blueboy, can't imagine the garage without one..... You still flying now??

[@bobuk5722]

Hi again, I'm delighted to have found your channel. Almost like being back on a bike! I really liked tyre pressure monitoring. Gave me a sense of reassurance. I had punctures on my Norton 750 (fastback - British racing green - Dunlop TT100's.) many years ago and they were very, err, annoying (mobile phone had not been invented back then ......). Modern tyres are so much better, but I still liked to think that I would get advance early warning of slow punctures. Incidentally, your on bike audio is really good, what's the set up? Keep 'em coming! Bob.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Great stuff Bob, glad you're liking my videos - what kept you! Details of my set-up in the description of any of my recent videos....cheers - TMF

[@davewilton3101]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Tire pressure monitoring...I ride a Concours 14 (2012). A couple years ago I had a back tire pick up a nail and let go. The TPM flashed a red light and the display automatically displayed the affected tire's pressure and I could watch it decrease. There was sufficient time to slow from 75mph (120 kph here in Canada) and easily, safely get to the side of the road with 9 psi remaining. Not having a TPM system is a deal breaker for me. I'm considering something new and it will have a good TPM system.

[@vnohelix]

Any chance you can do a review of the FJR1300 as well? I'd like your perspective how it stands up to both the Triumph and the RT.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I would love too but so far have not had any access to one unfortunately :0(

[@vnohelix]

Damned, just bought a new 2017 TTSE :-), your review was "dead on". 30 inch inseam and both feet comfortably on the ground with the low seat. 12.5K/US out the door, could not pass on that.

[@Ian-bq7gp]

My nephew has that yam 1300. He loves it, great build, solid reliable but less than 100 bhp. Might be xjr .

[@LenScapoff]

I think the weight and centre of gravity considerations would push me towards the Beemer, despite the "hefty" price difference. I miss the balance of the boxer configuration when compared to the top heavy lump of my triple.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I'm with you there Len, surprising what a difference in your confidence levels a low COG makes...

[@vincentlawler4020]

I have never seen one of these on the road. I think the msrp over here is a $18k and change and I see a dealer in New Hampshire is listing their 2017 models for $13k with free shipping nationwide. When I was moving on from my GTL last summer I considered one briefly because of the value for money but ended up going with the RT because of the weight difference and the lower center of gravity.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes the RT is leagues ahead as far as I'm concerned....I really didn't get on with the Trophy....

[@vnohelix]

Would you mind sharing what dealer this is? I am in the market for one. Thanks.

[@vincentlawler4020]

Helixx I believe it was National Powersports.

[@vnohelix]

Thank you.

[@JLOSTAFF1]

Another great review! Which bike would you choose for a long tour then - GS, RT or Trophy? Cheers, Jon.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well any of those would be brilliant on a long tour, but if pushed I'd got for the RT, then the GS then the Trophy (in that order)...assuming we're talking all on-road riding of course.... Thanks for the kind words as ever, appreciate your consistent support and encouragement!

[@JLOSTAFF1]

With no more room in that garage, that looks cleaner than an operating theatre, I sense the GS being replaced by an RT then? :)

[@johnjones-xz9vm]

I had a 2014 model. Fantastic engine and handling but the electronics were useless. Ended up after 15 months with a new loom, new front discs and new fork seals. I rejected it in the end. So disappointed. I still think its probably one of the best gt bikes out there. if you find a good one you're in for a treat

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

.....and given I read in MCN last week they've announced they're stopping/ed production there are likely to be some bargains to be had as show rooms clear them out....

[@johnjones-xz9vm]

Secondhand values have taken a bit of a kicking on the back of reports of poor reliability. Such a shame. I loved mine, it had everything and more. A black one at my local dealer for 13100. A bargain. Mine cost 15500. Wish i'd waited for the bmw rt1200

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yeah the RT is a far superior machine I'm afraid....

[@steveclark..]

Many ex RT owners have experienced driveshaft failures, ABS pumps and other electrical gremlins etc,....I don't think that they are superior to the Trophy.

[@chrisw4215]

@@steveclark.. and BMW owners love their bikes. Interesting

[@The_Touring_Jedi]

I was wondering how acts that CBS sistem at high speed? Saw some other video where they said it was one of the best in test when hitting rear brake.

[@UnknownProdrive]

Nice review sir. Not my thing but clearly an accomplished machine. I only have one bike at a time so they need to do a few things well. Just watched RichyVida's tour of Norway last year. Ideal for that (not their pump prices though) particularly the weather. Ride safe pleasure as always.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Sleepingdrgon, these bikes are very much one trick ponies, and if that's not your thing then fair enough....having ridden this and the big BMW RT I completely "get" what these are about now....but for sure, if I could only have one bike, this it would not be!

[@Jon-zj2nj]

A bike I so wanted to like when it was first launched! But, within the first hundred yards it was obvious that even at 5” 10”, but with short legs, it was completely impossible to stop and hold the bike up safely. It’s not just the height of the seat, but the immense width of it! At 5’ 8”, you must be all leg! I took out an Explorer afterwards and it was so much easier (and fun) to ride and I bought one of those instead. It’s a shame that the Trophy flopped as there’s so much to like about it, but the touring oriented Tiger 1200 XRt now makes so much more sense.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed!

[@hughdixon752]

There's 2 settings for the seat height. I'm 5'10 with a 30'inside leg and the lower setting is perfect for me.

[@IkeBrider]

I am 5'11", 31" inside leg, and on the lower seat level still found it necessary to fit a lowering kit. It is a very heavy bike and so easy to drop at traffic lights if you get it wrong. That said, we'll worth the challenge.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

@@IkeBrider It's funny looking back on these posts as, about 5 months after I made my original post, I had a mad rush of blood to the head and went out and bought a Trophy to add to the Explorer! After having owned the Tiger for 7 years, I'd got so used to the weight and bulk of the Explorer, that I now cope with the Trophy very well and it's now my go-to bike! I'm even running it with a standard seat and links. I have a low seat, which I keep in reserve if I have the bike in pieces in the workshop and it's useful to put in place as a temporary seat to make it easy to maneuver around the workshop. It's funny how my opinion of it's changed so much since originally test riding it just after launch. I wonder, could the dealer (who knew very little about the bike) have messed up the seat height setting before letting me out on it?

[@IkeBrider]

@@Jon-zj2nj More than possible that a lanky rider tested it before you, that is exactly what happened to me on my test ride. Glad you got it resolved. I am just extremely careful about stopping on extreme cambers or any road surface that may put a bit more fresh air under my feet. Funny how quickly we get used to the weight, I quite happily take the wife pillion now.

[@aidandoyle7982]

Why are there radio's on motorcycles? I don't understand it. Any suggestions?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Entertainment maybe?

[@BN1960]

If you truly fancy riding a behemoth that belies its weight, try a Honda Goldwing 1800. You may not believe how agile it is. :) And the screen resume thing may be the same as the RT which is that it returns to where you last left it when you turned the bike off.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I think you may be right about the screen....in which case a fun feature! Thanks for watching - TMF

[@bigbadbikerbaz]

another great review

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Baz :0)

[@grampageorge3407]

But I will say,Triumph should have advertised it more.I spend a good amount of time telling people"yes its a Triumph".It is a great bike,too bad they quit making them.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes they didn't make them for long did they - just kinda got swept under the carpet and quietly forgotten....

[@a.r.t.4611]

I'm thinking of trading in my 15 year old Honda Pan European, which is in excellent condition, for a 2016 Trophy that has very low miles on it and almost show room condition. Was very impressed with the Trophy when it first came out and rode it for about 30 miles. So folks, thanks for the feedback in these comments.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

The Trophy is a very heavy beast and was fairly quickly discontinued….I think my advice would be to keep the Pan! …or get a 2nd hand RT

[@a.r.t.4611]

@@TheMissendenFlyer well, my Pan is 32w Well, the Pan is 320kg, so no lightweight either.

[@steverhysjenks]

What rt review did you do that you mentioned in the video, can't seem to find it?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well I did link to it at the end of the video (you did watch all the way through didn't you? ;0) ...but it's here >> kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIu7XpWApNeYmqs

[@wayne_coleman]

Good video. I think if you were after this type of bike then it would really be a case of whether you wanted the German efficiency or whether you wanted to fly the British flag. Every review I've read says the BMW nips it for the title but there is something about the Triumph which I like. Maybe because I own a Street Triple and love the engine or whether its because all Triumphs handle well I don't know. It wouldbe interesting what you think of the Kawasaki GTR1400. I took it out for a test ride and didn't like pretty much everything about it. Could be in one of your future tests???

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Wayne Coleman Yeah I do like the look of the Kawasaki - would love to try one someday, interesting to hear you thought it was a pupp! Thanks for watching and for stopping by.

[@Butlers_Bike_life]

Great review.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@davidt343]

great video so far, just thought i would comment on the weather, it's slowly coming. Dark nights, wet days, cold hands.... and the rest :).

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Tell me about it David!

[@waynecompton7612]

Good video if you get a chance try to get a ride on a Honda st 1300 Paneuropean many thanks take care

[@jackpeterson8549]

Love the reviews you keep doing

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Jack - very kind of you to say so......

[@Ianjeffery2500]

Very helpful, thank you.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you found it of use/interest!

[@jgoddard0757]

'a bit like driving a starship'....Id really like to hear your review on that. When is it coming...soon?? :)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

...star date 2053.16

[@harrypalmer7169]

As always a great commentary. Thank you.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you approve Harry - thanks for the kind words...appreciated.

[@markmasztal2253]

Funny that you review this bike now...Captain Rambunctious just rode it and reviewed it.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Indeed I said the same thing to him - difference is I rode the bike yesterday and uploaded today, he rode it in July.....nuff said :0)

[@markmasztal2253]

Still, a great comparison from two great vloggers.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks :0)

[@Boodieman72]

TMF, I wish Triumph could do an integrated GPS setup like BMW does.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

So do I - I don't get why only BMW does that, massive plus point in the BMW's favour to my mind....that integrated wheel thing and all the extra functionality in the Nav V is a deal maker for me...

[@Boodieman72]

TheMissendenFlyer I wonder if BMW has some kind of patent on it or a special deal with Garmin.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Boodieman72 I imagine it has both!

[@Boodieman72]

TheMissendenFlyer That rules out the Triumph for me, which frankly is a shame.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes and no - despite the SatNav the BMW is the nicer bike on reflection, just feels more premium and light to ride (but then it costs substantially more fully spec'd).....

[@commonsense769]

What's the tank range on this model?

[@hughdixon752]

I get between 265 and 285 miles out of a tank and I don't take it steady.

[@johnclachan9223]

Why did they stop making them ?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I guess they didn’t sell - the RT has this market sewn up!

[@stardustdreamfactory1947]

Word is Triumph is stopping production of the Trophy? :(

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Really? ...not surprised, I don't think it has been a big seller for them...

[@stardustdreamfactory1947]

They are still listed along with accessories on the factory website. All local and regional dealers have at least one on the floor, if not more. No one on the RAT website talks about them anymore but that place went downhill years ago (source of the rumor). Thinking I've seen exactly one on the street over the last couple of years. I still want one but have to get my '08 ST started first LOL! Testing the battery shortly. Update: Bike needed a new battery; 3rd within 9k miles. Everything working properly - filled tank with fresh gas and the annual fuel treatment. First ride since november - approx. 25 miles. Many medical issues - doc says to stay off bikes LOL!!! Annual oil/filter change coming up shortly.

[@someguy9520]

Yeah yeah its not the best of its class But on the used mrlet where I live they are an absolute bargain Fjr is on average 5-8k more expensive with similar year but more mileage. Same with the BMW Found a 2014 ES model with all the bells and whistles with 14.000km on the clock. 8k eur

[@vstm3950]

Hi TMF, have you any personal experience with Rukka jackets & pants, what is your opinion on them? Slowly growing to consider such investment, getting feedback from genuine users. Ta

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Hi Vstm - No I've not used them (due cost mainly) - I only hear good things about them but for me they don't do enough in the pockets department!

[@ElliottJackKeen1]

Hi. Sorry to jump on your comments section but thought I could help. Bought top of the range Rukka jacket and trousers end of last year, for a combination of work and touring riding and through 12000 miles of all weathers ( including near monsoon ! ) they are superb. By far the most expensive kit I've ever bought, but also the very best I have ever experienced. Damned expensive but simply awesome. You won't regret the investment.

[@eoghanhennessy15]

Too hot for summer, but great for rain

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for the input Simon..always good to hear from someone with real world experience...

[@vstm3950]

Thanks for sharing Simon, much appreciated

[@albertheaton6455]

Great review not my cup of tea to heavy but sure will suit a lot of people ride safe.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Albert - and yes, heavy is not normally a feature I look for in bikes either! ....but on a long journey these things are very comfy (as long as you don't have to stop at any point!)

[@TheDervMan]

That's a BIG bike! When you going to try an Africa Twin?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+DervMan I'd love a go on one but don't have a Honda dealer nearby that I can borrow one from.....don't have one you can lend me do you?

[@TheDervMan]

Oh! I don't own an AT so can't help you there. 🤔

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+DervMan ....so you can see the problem 😕

[@keyop1970]

Test rode a Tiger 800xcx, an F800GS, a DCT Africa Twin and the KTM 1050 and 1190 Adventures before buying my Street Triple R. Hoping to pick up an Africa Twin next year, would definitely recommend a test ride, although the KTM 1190 blew me away, if money was no object...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

keyop1970 .....wouldn't that be nice!

[@melciveng]

Great review as usual. Nice bike but the instrument binnacle is a bit ugly with that slab of plastic around the dials.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I agree, not the most beautiful looking "dash" I've ever seen.....

[@faithbiker8262]

Nice review. Best to you!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you - and to you!

[@ronsmith9251]

I think bike has a fantastic engine, great ergos, and loads of technology. The only problem with this bike is the somewhat bland/generic looks.

[@Asperaetastra]

We do not have there roundbound in Russia! ;P

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Too bad, you'd enjoy them!

[@Asperaetastra]

TheMissendenFlyer Hardly! Since not many around here like to follow the rules and sense...any sense. I bet, we would just drive straight since there is no barriers on that type of doundbounds. With no turning signals or moveing heads from side to side.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

To be fair they are pretty dangerous for motorcyclists and do depend on everyone following the rules! All the best - TMF

[@michaelfisher2540]

I with Triumph had more CHAIN driven bikes over Shaft Driven. I need a Chain driven bike for my special purpose. I will be making the bike in to a Wheelchair Trike and the company involved in this say it must be a Chain Driven bike only. I love Triumph bikes the Trophy and Rochet 3 but they are both Shaft Driven bikes :-( I hope to find a Triumph Chain driven newish bike

[@thedarrendasher8134]

Perhaps next you need to ride an FJR 1300 next, as it's slightly more sporty than either and doesn't have the silly radio nonsense either.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I'd love too - best looking of all the touring bikes in my opinion....

[@thedarrendasher8134]

I've had two FJRs a 2009 Gen3, and now a 2016Gen4 AE. Tried the rest, the Bee-Em I couldn't get on with because of the boxer motor and questionable reliability, then the Trumpet was a no-no because when the bike was idling it sounded like the valve guides where falling out which is apparently "normal". The only one I didn't try was the GTR, a Pal has one and rates it highly. Interestingly though, Mrs Dasher reckons our Duke ST3 is as comfy as any of these bikes and we have toured on that as much as our FJR. So it begs the question (for me at least) do I really need to spend vast amounts for all day comfort for either me or Mrs Dasher?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Mmm, interesting points - I think we sometimes look too deeply into he nuances of different bikes (I'm certainly guilty of this), these days pretty much all bikes are good regardless......

[@thedarrendasher8134]

Agreed, no-one bar the Chinese (and they will soon catch up) makes a bad bike, but who'd have thought twenty five years ago that Ducati would make something comfortable, let alone reliable?

[@kevinvoeks7422]

Plenty of GO

[@LeeLorrie]

Another great review, when are you going to review the Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster 😎 can you handle the power lol Tally ho old chap

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

....it's not the power I'm worried about, it's the gargantuan size and mammoth weight......had a close look at one a few days ago, one helluva motorcycle!

[@LeeLorrie]

They ride lovely, and yes you have to respect the weight but that disappears once on the move. One thing I liked about it was I don't notice my wife on the back which was nice. The bike can be a right monster and all so a gentle giant lol I have had most triumphs but this one puts a very large smile on my face every time I ride it. Safe riding buddy and keep them videos coming great stuff 😎

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks Lee, will do....wow "makes the wife disappear" now there's a thing!! :0)

[@gilberto107]

Is the gearbox clunk as evident in the BMW ?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Gili oberhofer No, the gearbox seemed a little less clunky to me....

[@TonVerkleijT3]

It's history. As a previous owner it was a cumbersome bike and quite a handfull at slow speeds. Triumph failed with this one.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed!

[@handsfree1000]

Any chance you would own a trophy over you BMW?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nope - not unless they brought out a new model considerably lighter than the current one...

[@CAIGNOT]

Je viens de changer ma VICTORY VISION pour l'achat d'une TRIUMPH TROPHY vraiment une super bécane

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes well it depends of course what you're comparing it with....Merci for watching! All the best - TMF

[@CAIGNOT]

My comparison is made from the different motorcycles I have owned, Yamaha 1600 WILD STAR, Gold wing 1500 Suzuki GSXF, VICTORY VISION, and now TRIUMPH TROPHY which is for me now a very good compromise weight power for a beautiful GT.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

c'est bon!

[@davidburns6784]

Ride by wire?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

No direct cable linkage from the twist grip to the throttle - instead the grip turns a potentiometer which drives a motor controlling the throttle opening.....make sense?

[@davidburns6784]

Yes it does thank you

[@Xerdoz]

The gearbox sounds horrible. Clunking and rattling. Otherwise seems like a nice bike.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yep...!

[@kevinvoeks7422]

Buy the BMW. Last year for Trophy

[@libertyman3072]

🏁🏁🏁💪👍💪👍💪👍💪👍💪👍🏁🏁🏁

[@taol3944]

never so early...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Explain????

[@taol3944]

when I watch your videos, it is usually already 2 or 3 days old

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I see...well done for being more punctual this time ;0)

[@SAOProductions1955]

You're on the wrong side of the road.

[@janschkeuditz6065]

I suppose you will not be riding the Harley or Indian big boys , maybe a trip to the gym is called for . Comment based on replies to people regarding the weight. Plus K 1200s have a terrible maintenance reputation.ref BMW forums.