2017 Lexus LS 460 Review...The Final V8 LS

2017 Lexus LS 460 Review featuring a base RWD model. The 2017 LS 460 will most likely be the last V8 powered LS. Lexus has traditionally always used a V8 since the LS400 until now with the new LS 500. See my Lexus LS playlist: • 1994 Lexus LS400...The...
I have reviewed every model of the Lexus LS. I truly enjoy these flagship luxury sedans however, I've noticed the same issue with all of these sedans, wind noise. If Lexus can sort this issue out, these LS models can be nearly perfect. But would you choose a Mercedes S Class, BMW 7 Series, or Audi A8 over the LS regardless of reliability? Leave your thoughts below in the comments.
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00:00 - Intro
01:44 - Exterior
02:41 - Drive
12:55 - Interior, Features, & Space
16:07 - Conclusion
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[@luxurreview]

One time I was going 80 in a 55 and thought I was going the speed limit. The LS is a mind blowing car, especially for the first time.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

For sure 👍

[@anthonyromero3828]

Even though it’s a V-8 and I know that’s not really much of a gas saver but how was your miles per gallon? Did you had to add gas every week?

[@kgisabeast]

@@anthonyromero3828 you’d be surprised, you can get 30 mpg on the highway

[@dancostaregni5079]

I get 30 miles per gallon

[@jerronwest8412]

I love this body style more than the 2018 and up! That 4.6 liter been around for over 10 years so its one of the most reliable engines on the road! This LS460 will give you years of trouble free driving.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

For looks I gotta take the 500 😅 but I need that V8 tho

[@jerronwest8412]

@@MeynMotorGroup Lol, whats crazy i used to love the 07 to 12 and i hated the 13 and up now that i have a 13 LS460 i love the 13 to 17 the most! I guess it takes time to grow on me, I’m pretty sure after a couple more years i will be in love with the 18 and up😂😂😂 your right that 4.6 liter v8 will be legendary!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Oh yea I know what you mean that def happens when new models drop takes some time to get used to. But unfortunately V8 will never make its way into future flagships so we must buy used to enjoy that buttery power train

[@jerronwest8412]

@@MeynMotorGroup You are exactly right! You make excellent points, love your video! LS460 will be a excellent used car buy for anyone who wants the buttery powertrain and Lexus excellent reliability!

[@JamesKarne]

I have 1990 Lexus ls400 1uz-fe engine almost 3 month, in previous owner that car for 31 years! It is so beautiful sound like new running!

[@kodeys4090]

The wind noise!!! So I own a 16 LS460L executive pkge - I purchased at 22k certified from Lexus. No road or wind noise at all. Ever. Once I hit 60kish I noticed a lot of wind noise from drivers front window. After looking into it I found the window molding up in the drivers front window in the corner next to the mirror was deforming and starting to wither away. Wiggled it back to place and went silent again. Brought to lexus and had them replace drivers front window molding (not covered as a wear an tear item) whatever 200 bucks later and problem solved perfectly until it withers away again lmao.. So hope that helps!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

This is epic thank you for sharing this!

[@Justheretochilll]

I’m gonna look into this. Thanks

[@LilRick96]

You got a 2016 executive LS CPO for 22k?? Holy shit

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I think he was referring to the mileage haha 😄 but $22k would have been epic

[@Justheretochilll]

@@LilRick96 I think he mean 22k Miles.

[@LeeePowers]

The Last V8 Samurai.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

That is accurate my friend

[@andrewnguyen6367]

Excellent content my guy. Keep it up. We really appreciate your review. Honest, bias, no BS, straight to the point. U going to be big.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Andrew Im so humbled by that thank you very much and I'm happy you appreciate the honesty!

[@bobcraig3648]

Although the electronics and gauges are outmoded and the joy stick still there. I bought her Certified Pre-Owned last summer and Lexus refused to give me or install Apple Car Play. Cheap solution? Got a knock-off cupholder insert cell phone holder for $19 and let Siri guide me through bluetooth. Keep the LS reviews coming! I can't handle in and out of SUVs due to knee and hip surgery, nor a Corvette etc. LS460Ls are fabulous if you can find one, apparently owners are hanging on to them. Back seat passengers often fall asleep, a compliment.

[@350zlover2]

Another great review for my favorite car! If it wasn't for all my friends and family buying a LS460 I would have one as well! Pearl white with 22 inch wheels! Keep up the great work.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks so much my friend!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

See my LS Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLpCIzov_mrDNqfRbJDRo1pBJT5m_9mwr9 Also this LS 460 was finished in Atomic Silver really loved this color

[@timboslice45]

I have a 2014 Matador red w/ flaxen interior LS....quiet as a bank vault, feels like riding on velvet (on smooth streets, the 19" wheels are kinda rough on a lot of Michigan roads though) and not one problem with 99,000 miles on the clock. Best all around vehicle in the world, in my opinion.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Wow gorgeous car Timothy and you're so right this car has a layer of velvet on it just makes it hyper smooth. Question, any wind noise that you experienced from the driver side window?

[@timboslice45]

@@MeynMotorGroup No wind noise (or tire noise on my Pirelli Cinturato p7 series 2, which I researched as the quietest, smoothest tire for this car.) I put Shin Etsu grease on every rubber piece, including door seals, once a year to keep them conditioned and sealing correctly as well.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

That's so strange so many LS owners have suffered from this issue but some have not. Lexus initially thought the wind noise occurred because of the mirror design or a trim piece but neither was the cause. So bizzare, this car is perfect without the wind noise just wish I knew what caused it so it can be fixed

[@karraral-bahathly6990]

Hey Timothy I have got the same one but the f sport version with the same color. Just hit 91k miles. I agree amazing car to drive. Just stepping into the interior is very serene. Sometimes here in Washington if we have high winds the interior cabin does get louder.

[@timboslice45]

@@karraral-bahathly6990 It is very serene, I can feel my blood pressure lowering just stepping into the cabin after a busy work day.

[@danrol354]

Love your honest reviews. I've been watching them for a while now..👍

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks!

[@keithquick4682]

Love your review, I'm a Lexus man since 1990, I've owned the 90 LS, a 91 LS, then 2003 LS and currently I own a 2012 LS 460 with 128 K on the clock. Never had noticed or heard the wind noise that you mentioned. Would advise anyone considering a fine luxury automobile to consider a Lexus LS. I have trouble not driving this vehicle, sometimes I go for coffee just to take a ride in this luxury liner.

[@kingjulians1]

Are these also susceptible to the front suspension issues tgat plagued the 2007 2008 models, the control arm, tierod ends and balljoints apparently go due to weight amd costly to fix. Almost bought 2 with this issue

[@grezza13]

Love my 2010 LS460. I don't notice the wind noise though. My brakes do have a noticable sounds to them when coming to a completely stop, regardless of the age/condition of the brakes/rotors. Keep up the good work and his us with some new content!

[@jascam1]

Love my 2014 LS460 F-Sport with 43k miles, had a few more issues than my 1999 LS400, but still a wolf in sheep's clothing. I take it out and let it stretch its legs twice a month. My daily workhorse is my 2011 Tacoma/TRD trim with 51K. Great video and the props for Lexus/Toyota.

[@braddunbar5976]

Great Video. I have never had any wind noise in my 2017 LS. I also love this year LS 460. The engine is awesome.

[@Oliver2020.]

I think this was only an issue on his particular model. I seen a lot of posts regarding this topic and a lot of customers state they don't have any wind noise issues in this generation.

[@LSniumUwU]

And i have the first Lexus with a v8, the 1990 Lexus ls400.

[@bobcraig3648]

I had two; no more Mercedes after that.

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Driving around in a brick of butter wow bro the best way of putting that smooth feel I ever heard 👍🏾👍🏾 and feeling like a pimp lol 🤝😎

[@michelprovencher3798]

As for squeaks and whistles, not to be confused with rattle noises, I’ve found silicone cleaning of tracks and rubber is key maintenance that resolves such noise issues.

[@ktaylor669]

This body style still looks good to me. Thanks for the video!!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey thanks for watching!

[@frankpatton7705]

Thank You for all of your LS 460 videos! I just purchased a super clean low mileage white LS 460 (damn near flawless). Everything you say is almost spot on (I will now listen for the wind noise). Really appreciate your comparisons to the Mercedes and other vehicles, along with your comments. Once you said a person may feel like a pimp in the LS, NOW THAT's pushing IT! LoL -- GREAT videos ......

[@BeesonsCars]

Love this gen LS after the facelift. That engine tuned revs all the way out to 7500 rpm and sounds absolutely glorious!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

For sure the motor is epic!

[@wayneshattuck1684]

I know you made this video in early 2021 but I just stumbled on it today (Oct, 2022), What caught my interest is the car is identical to mine. Same year, same color & same interior. I live in the Tampa Bay area & this is my 3rd LS (2009 & 2011). I specifically wanted this year because as you said this was the last year for this body & V8. Looking all over the country I found this in Dec. of 2020 in New Orleans with 30K miles and Certified. I now have 54K miles on it and it feels just as tight as when I got it. I am going to keep until the wheels fall off... Love the car. I make a few long drives up to Myrtle Beach during the year & I have never noticed the excessive window wind noise you spoke of. You did a good review!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea my friend I’ve noticed the wind noise only occurs on certain vehicles it’s very strange and it was the same with the LS500s I’ve tested as well. I tested 3 LS 500s and 2 did not have wind noise. Most say it occurs because of the weather sealing but I’m not sure. The 460 is a great car you made a great choice sir 👍

[@midnitesnack3683]

I love your review on lexus cars keep up the good work

[@johnryancarmona1409]

Great Review! I really enjoyed. I just bought a 2014 LS 460 L with 38k miles. Loving it!! Thank you!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Massive congrats my friend!

[@rexonmontefalcon]

Gotta love this dude's personality! 😆 Keep going bro! 👊

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha thank you my friend

[@jimmypang8111]

I once owned a 2008 LS600hl that I bought used in 2011. I too, had experienced wind noise on my driver side, luckily I bought it as a certified pre-owned and with extended warranty. Glad you had suggested both points to your viewers, because repairs on ultra luxury car using genuine parts by authorized dealer can be expensive on newer cars. The dealer sent my car in for a test drive by Lexus noise engineer and they finally did a replacement of windows sills. After which, wind noise is much improved and acceptable on highway. I think the earlier 2000's LS 460 models which don't have acoustic noise insulation front windows and windshield will have some kind of noise. In 2016, I bought my current 2010 LS 460 with air suspension, ride is much better controlled and doesn't has the pillow soft, bouncy ride and body roll of a boat compared to the regular steel suspension of LS 460 ( which I happened to test drive before choosing one with air suspension ). I've enjoyed your video reviews of current LS 500 and LC 500, surprised to know the LS 500 F-sport is quieter without the wind noise compared to the regular LS 500. I think at some point, I might change to a 2016 or 2017 LS 460 F-sport, instead of going to the LS 500.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea my friend it seems to be all over the place with wind noise some models have it some don't. Some viewers said that the higher trim LS models like Luxury trims don't seem to suffer from wind noise but it is strange for sure

[@dibaz1]

Only just got around to seeing this great review/post. Any updates on your air suspension? Because I’d prefer that option but read so many comments about issues. Any other tips you have as of today? Any issues with the control arms etc?? Cheers 🍻👍

[@jimmypang8111]

@@dibaz1 I've owned my 2010 Lexus LS460 for seven years now, and still driving it daily. I've clocked 75K miles so far and only needs oil change, battery, tires and brakes maintenance. I didn't have control arm issue. I would definitely prefer air suspension to the regular steel spring suspension. I think the newer 2016 or 2017 Lexus LS460 would be a better choice over the 2010-2012 generation. I heard leaky coolant, control arm issue are some of the common reported problems of the 2008-2012 era. But the newer Lexus are more expensive to repair or replace. Back in 2019, I had a crack on my front windscreen, Safety Glass, quoted a mere $1000 original factory parts price if I had to replace the entire front windscreen. But a 2017 Honda Civic or newer Subaru Legacy with a lane keeping would cost upto $2000 plus $500 calibration! I end up having my insurance company paying just $50 for the tiny crack repair. One note, last year September, 3 weeks after oil change by my mechanic ( non lexus dealer ) whom I've used for six years, I heard the AC fan was working really hard and loud. I didn't pay much attention, soon after while driving on highway, the display shows engine overheat warning and asked me to pull over. I noticed the coolant was below min mark, so I filled it to the max. After filling the coolant tank every 2 weeks for 2 months and took it on a long road trip, the low engine oil light warning appeared. I had to drive to nearby hardware store and buy two 5 quant containers to fill up the empty engine tank! Despite these, my Lexus survived and engine still running strong...I think the mechanic must have forgotten to fill in fresh engine oil after draining the old one away! As for the coolant, I never had to fill up as often anymore but there might be a tiny pinhole leak somewhere. So a Lexus is a Lexus, it is built to last. If I were you, and prefer an older lexus ls460...I would be careful to look how many previous owners, how often the car changed hands, if the vehicle is regularly serviced and never miss important service schedule.

[@LawrenceMarkFearon]

My God man the wood situation is on a sensual level. And the leather is not far behind. I would totally buy this 2017 over a new one. Sometimes prior generations are better choices with fewer compromises. Like that silky instant V8 punch.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea Lexus wood is epic and the highlight was def that v8 for me!

[@drj2039]

The LS is like a BBW, big body, curves in all the right places, and a real head turner!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha it's def a looker in my opinion

[@ejohnson3131]

Like an athletic BBW that has all the jiggle and stamina when you need it! 😂

[@drj2039]

@@ejohnson3131 exactly! Unlike some skinny, high maintenance models they're always up for it, never have a headache and are eager to please 👍

[@MarkHood1972]

I agree! We love fat chicks!

[@drj2039]

@@MarkHood1972 I wouldn't exactly say fat, more of a PAWG really

[@DigitalSwagg]

I'm an 8 year owner of the 2016 LS430 and was so impressed and pleased with the reliability, luxury and tech I am purchasing a 2017 LS460 and my mind is about to be blown! (Which brought me to your channel, great video!) I choose the Obsidian exterior with a all black everything interior. Kid at Christmas over here !!!

[@amirmeiti]

How do you own a 5 year old car for 8 years bro.

[@IIOctaneII]

@@amirmeiti 💀💀

[@AnontheGOAT]

@@amirmeiti pretty sure it’s a typo. I think he meant 2006. No such thing as a 2016 LS 430.

[@omoniyikaye]

@@amirmeiti 😄

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Great way to start off a Saturday thanx bro 😎👍🏾👍🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha glad you enjoyed it bro

[@theodoreyoung8777]

@@MeynMotorGroup O not yet bro but when done watching your Porsche video will comment on this one right after 👊🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Humbled by the support like always!

[@theodoreyoung8777]

@@MeynMotorGroup 👊🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@JustHavingFun_]

I have a 2013 LS and I haven’t noticed any wind noise. I love love love my LS, but I have an itch for a LC 500. I would be getting rid of my LS for the LC. I know you have a LC and with your experience with LS do you think I would regret getting rid of my LS? Also could you fit a person in backseat of a LC?

[@Milkinporsche]

Man, I miss the v8 Lses

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea it really added to the character of the car

[@bobbyb.1743]

Love your comment about the Genesis G90- haha. I’m crushed b/c some nimrod made an unprotected left turn in front of me causing an accident - totaled my ‘08 LS460 I bought new. This video has me thinking I need to turn on the search for a 2017 LS….thank you so much!!

[@Kmasse8]

Great review of a great car. Absolutely love the sound of that V8 engine. At my work I had a Land Cruiser V8s but they sounded pretty bland, also because it was an armored version. Soon we gonna have times with tiny engines and electric cars, so might the last chance to buy what a real car should be! :) Have and had Mercedes (the E-series, W212, has been very reliable but the ML spent more time in repair shops than the road). Next car going to be a Lexus for sure.

[@MarcG7424]

If I were in the market for a LS 460 this would be it I hate downsized engines

[@MeynMotorGroup]

This car is very impressive in terms of smoothness

[@Brofessor17]

It’s not bad better gas mileage more power

[@wanyelewis9667]

@@Brofessor17 I've test driven the new 500 with the twin turbo V-6. It's very smooth--there's no V-6 smoother or more refined than the one Lexus makes--but it's not a V-8. You'd think that Lexus would have at least offered the GSF's 5.0 liter naturally aspirated V-8 in the LS500.

[@Brofessor17]

@@wanyelewis9667 yea I was kinda suprised the 2UR-GSE (5.0 liter dual overhead cam engine) which was first put in the isf. The rcf I drive is kinda has clunky single clutch trans but with an armytrix valvetronic exhaust it sounds great.

[@bobcraig3648]

Love your LS reviews! I have had LS8s most of my life and this is my second Certified LS460, got last summer as second owner with 21,000 miles! It's an L with air suspension, no exec package though. I never noticed wind noise and take her on I-95 twice a month cruising at 90. I often think of getting a 500, then especially after reading reviews, decide... naaaaa.

[@ericr7162]

Yo where you from? I noticed you said i95

[@bobcraig3648]

@@ericr7162 Vero Beach. You? Btw, since I wrote my comments on Kevin's excellent review I found a 19 Matador Red LS 500 with 25,050 miles and black leather interior and black glass skyroof. Twenty inch chrome spoke wheels and Mark Levinson 23 speakers too, perfect and only $66K! Traded my 17 LS460L with 27,000 miles for $42,000. In love with Ginger, new name for my new 500! Ten speed auto with paddle shifters flies compared to 460 V8, and 442 ft/lbs. torque very noticeable. Car flies! Was $93k and change new. Take that, Mercedes!

[@mr.nmoney3554]

I just bought a 2017 LS it had the option with all black interior even the headliner all black suede. It’s one of the nicest cars I’ve ever owned. I get compliments every where I go.

[@dso-nx3jy]

Hi Kevin, on the market for an LS 460 since watching your videos. What range on the odometer should i be looking for is 50k okay? Also which years should i be looking for? 2015-17? Ill appreciate any advice you give me!

[@patricknoll4020]

I have 2017 f-sport 460 and don't have any wind noise.I sold my F-Sport Gs-350 which was great but 460 a couple levels better.The Gs had problem with trunk springs and Lexus told me live with it since new springs would break in few monthsThanks for review!!!

[@srulyp.7428]

Good to hear that the G90 is better in your opinion! Appreciated🙏🏼

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Glad you appreciated the honesty my friend!

[@m.newman7722]

I bought a used low milage Lexus certified 2014 LS460 back in 2017. No wind noise, terrible gas milage in town, 25+ mpg on the highway, and a great riding car. Luckily my wife mostly drives it and only puts on less than 500 miles a month. Other than a wiper rain sensor that was fixed on warrantee, the car has been problem free for the past 6+ years. Great ride, air conditioning is on the polar side. It is faster than my RC350 F-Sport, and both are keepers. I am very happy with this vehicle, and would not trade up to the LS500 (this has a better ride, very good acceleration, and more comfortable seats IMO). I had a prior 1998 LS400 which was also free of problems that we kept for 19 years. There was no need to buy something more current back then, given how effortless ownership was. I never have needed to pay to fix anything in all these years of ownership. I have had LS's since 1995. They are that good, IMO.

[@lemko1968]

My wife and I were looking at a Certified 2017 Lexus LS460 last fall but ended up getting a 2020 ES350 instead. We both LOVED the car, but felt the price was a lot for a car that was about to be four model years old and had 38K miles on it.

[@wanyelewis9667]

I'd have taken the '17 LS in a heartbeat. ES? Really?

[@JetBlackThreat]

i still remember a few years back 15-16 i saw the new LS... holy cow it looked like a damn Big baller mobile

[@MeynMotorGroup]

haha same I saw one in red and it was unbelievable to me

[@richardjosephsr.3533]

I ordered a LS 500 2018 ( V6 ) my previous vehicle was a 2006 Gs430 ( V8 ) .I have no wind noises and the 416 horse power is all I need in the new car . My problem is Staying within the speed limit 😁

[@QUOTABLEPOLOMODEL]

I got one!!! Love it!!!! It’s a superb car! I don’t have any problems with the wind noise!!! Good video

[@MissingLinkGTRS]

I’ve never had a big issue with wind noise in my LS460 it could have something to do with buffeting around the wing mirrors as that can cause whistling or an increase in wind noise it could also be attributed to the door trim around the windows but that’s really all I could think of for it

[@johndavidson1010]

I Love your reviews. I’ve owned the 2015 LS460 and a 2005 LS430. IMO the LS430 is quieter (quiet engine and no wind noise) and rides softer.

[@timboslice45]

Man, I really need to drive an LS430 one of these days just to see what the hype is about. On new asphalt, my LS460 is so quiet and smooth its almost weird feeling, I honestly cant imagine what a quieter or smoother car would be like. Ive also heard the LS600h is on the same level as the 430....up there with the Rolls Royce Phantom as far as cabin serenity and decibel levels.

[@acw5111]

I have a 2005 LS 430 purchased certified used in 2011 with 32K miles she now has 146K and she still turns me on🤗 I love highway driving where it’s such a joy letting the V8 run.

[@larry-notthecableguy]

Love your background music at the end.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha thank you my friend!

[@davidhilliard1350]

I've owned a 2017 LS460 for almost a year. I have also owned 4 Mercedes Benz over the years. I love the car, but it does have the most creaky suspension and brake pedal of any car I've had. The dealership, however claim to never hear the noises. I do not have the wind noise you're referring to.

[@jasonwiercinski5250]

I have an ls 430 and its time for an upgrade. This is the car I want. Too much wind noise is a big deal. How could they screw that up? Not an issue at all on the 430 but I probably won't let a little wind noise stop me.

[@bernardosellers369]

Awesome review

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks!

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Sounds great bro powerful sounding engine and smooth as Lexus LS cars feel 😎

[@MeynMotorGroup]

That engine is incredible bro for sure

[@theodoreyoung8777]

@@MeynMotorGroup Facts bro 👍🏾👍🏾

[@k.suliman1010]

I have driven these LS 1995-2015 all of them are the best cars ever.

[@sportzpickz]

Another 1st class review, something tells me Danny is going to get a call on this car pretty soon after this goes out. The v8 sounds glorious. Did you feel much of a difference in performance between this one and the 2013?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thank you very much my friend! V8 is epic and actually this drives identical to the 2013. I've heard from some viewers that higher trim or specs LS cars are quieter than these base models apparently

[@RevLexus]

great video, what a beast of a car!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks! And for sure it really is!

[@williamwebberjr8045]

Is it possible to switch out the drivers window for an aftermarket dual pane or acoustic window?

[@lsfanatic5954]

I am not aware of any wind noise in my 2015. The beauty with a LS is the backseat, particularly with the L version which you can hardly feel any bumps. Personally I still prefer my older LS 430 for daily commuting because the way a 460 rides is nowhere close to how smooth and quiet its predecessor can offer. It is in fact a wise choice to avoid air suspension. Last year, I got an air strut replaced under warranty which could have costed $1k each. I recommend strongly everyone to invest in an extended warranty, which will "pay off itself" if you are so unlucky enough to come across with the need to deal with $$$$ repairs such as the height compressor ($3000!! no joke) >> Another reason to run away from air suspension. As for the leather quality, they do not resist to ageing as those in older Lexuses. Cracks have started to developed in my 2015. I have heard that the factory offers complimentary replacement of worn out parts like the dashboard, door panels and of course, the front seats for earlier 460s (pre-2010). I hope they will extend the courtesy to newer 460s too. Can't comment on the rear seats because I seldom have anyone in the back but it is noteworthy that the backseat of my 430 still holds up pretty well! My advice is to stay away from the LWB (usually loaded with more options) unless you have a chauffeur! The more toys you have, the deeper your pocket will be robbed! Other than the aggressive headlight, spindle grill and taillights which are 100% subjective in terms of aesthetics, I don't see how a 500 stands out from a 460. First, I am never a fan of the twin-turbo thing. Second, wood trim of the steering wheel now becomes an added $500 option. In addition, the touchpad in 500s is even more annoying than the mouse in 460s. Perhaps there are improvements in the coming 2021 model but the above is a summary of my experience after test-driving a 2019.

[@TheChocolateChamp]

Wow so you think the 430 is better than the 460? I'm on the fence on which one to get.

[@DeathhAngel1]

@@TheChocolateChamp get a hyundai equus or genesis, both offer the same package as the ls460 for cheaper.

[@TheChocolateChamp]

@@DeathhAngel1 ok I'll look into it

[@dibaz1]

@@TheChocolateChampme to, I want a 460 but trying to get lwb with the massage feature in the back but having a hard time finding one!! I’m in Dallas TX

[@dibaz1]

@@DeathhAngel1I’ve reading some horror stories about the Kia engine’s having major problems and not being repaired even under warranty 🤷🏼‍♂️ Mountains of engine’s stored up until they can figure out what’s going on….

[@hambone7777777]

Try rotating the mirror electrically while driving with the window up...The 4th gen corvette had a wind issue with it's very aero mirrors. And they added a flap to the side of the mirror, changing air flow. It was sucking the .jrror away from the seal. Like u said!

[@coryanderson4402]

Add foam weatherstriping to the door. Or put painters tape around door and remove in sections to find noise then add or replace weatherstriping. If the sound only comes from the door being most used. Or you can adjust catch

[@TMartins379]

Is this car still a good buy in 2021? Im looking at this car and the 2020 bmw 5 series.

[@VagueDustin]

I have an 07 460L with nearly every option but no matter what I do I can't get rid of the wind noise from the driver and passenger window areas! So frustrating.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yes my friend I understand the frustration for sure

[@Akus75038]

Why is there a wind noise?

[@zf22raptor]

The trim next to the mirrors gets debris build up. It needs to be removed cleaned and re secured

[@danrol354]

Any thoughts on financing a 2017 LS 460 CPO with extended 10 year warranty from original purchase warranty? After test drive last week, I noticed a creaking type noise on steering wheel, while stopped and turning wheel from far left to far right and vice versa. Lexus dealer said that they replaced the steering column and should be ready tomorrow. Should i still follow through with the deal?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Not a terrible deal 10 year warranty is pretty good its a 2017 so it's got some more value to loose but you already know that since its a newer car. Lexus really takes care of you with a warranty like that you're absolutely set any issues that pop up will easily be replaced by them. Just make sure the warranty is pro rated in case you want to sell the car early

[@HonestMotivation_]

In comparison a mint condition ls430 is about the same price even more expensive than a mint ls460 from 2007-2010. Was super close to getting a 460 but I’m glad I got the 430!

[@stephanieroberts1394]

Kevin what year did Lexus improve the control arms on this model?

[@duvoncooper8562]

I like your content I enjoy my LS460L people sleep on them don't know why but awesome car!!!!!

[@user-hi8um5ns8k]

Last year I bought from copart 2014 ls460 AWD 117k miles with rebuilt title of course it’cost around $17K till now and I am so glad and happy with it 😂😂

[@MikePlacer]

What is that black bar in the front of the bumber looks so awesome is it carbon fiber

[@johnnyanderson3287]

Which LS 460’models does not have the air suspension, outside of 2017 version??

[@Meetoon733]

Dam Kev the lexus freaks came out for this one! 🤣🤣. I just got an 09 LS but I'll probably eventually get the 17 when I'm bored of it. I can't imagine the tt v6 being as pleasurable as the v8. You're right about the wind noise though.. my ls is whisper quiet outside of that. Sucks that they didn't fix it this gen

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha yea gotta give the fans what they want. Nice I like how timeless the 09 LS is that car will never be dated in terms of looks. The 17 is a nice upgrade for sure and you're right the smoothness of the V8 cannot be replicated in the TT V6. I've heard from some viewers that the higher trim LS models don't suffer from the wind noise issue which is strange but might be true

[@Meetoon733]

@@MeynMotorGroup good to know. I'd like to eventually get the L or 600h. I got 4 years of warranty left on the 09 so hopefully by then the prices come down

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Oh nice yea might as well keep til the warranty runs out. Man 600hl is incredible, rare but if you can find one, those are surreal

[@rickymorales5524]

I previously owned an 08’ LS460 and loved it. Considering a CPO 2017 F-Sport due to the paddle shifters, a huge deal for me. Seeing some here in and around LA County for high $30k- mid $40k. What are your thoughts? Thank you! 🙏

[@luisalmendarez1606]

Was your 08' fast? And reliable?

[@johnmorin2371]

wind noise just needs the rubber to soften up, start applying a light coat of vaseline or some good rubber preservative. It might takes several treatments, but it works. Had the exact issue on my 2007 LS 460L...gone now and ultra quiet....BOL!!

[@ToddHDurant]

I have a 2017 Ls460... I found the wind noise is coming from the pass through hole in the rear seat.... It has to be shut tightly...

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Still finishing up on your Porsche video almost finished tho and I’m heading straight back over to watch this one I can now be up to date bro 😆 lol

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Interested in hearing your thoughts on the Porsche!

[@theodoreyoung8777]

@@MeynMotorGroup O I dropped a couple already bro lol

[@fadeysuleiman6423]

Definitely like a BMW 7 series but with a layer of butter 🧈 👌🔥 LS 460 is where it’s at.

[@eldonG407]

I have a 2014 LS460 SWB and I do experience any wind noise a lot of people complain about.

[@princesses2909]

V8 or GTFO. You cant replace a V8 with a twin turbo-V6, it’s not the same thing.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha yea I agree with that. I think Lexus did a good job with the TT V6 I like the motor the silkiness of this V8 can't be replicated

[@princesses2909]

@@MeynMotorGroup as they say...there’s no replacement for displacement 😉

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha facts!

[@mrt2734]

Facts!

[@timothybracken1728]

agreed!

[@andrewklein4509]

Watched while my 2010 LS 460 Sport is in for a checkup: brake pads and tires need attention. Your review persuades me that everything good about this LS has been preserved and likely improved to a some small degree. Mine has relatively low milage for its age reflecting my retirement and cessation of commuting and long trips to northern islands. Should I ever have to give up what I have, it looks as if the 2017 or the 2016 with low milage still would be the way to go. Over time, though, I worry that competant maintenance and parts might become hard to find.

[@kayodebalogun1252]

Yes my LS definitely makes noise from the window when driving. I thought it was just my car

[@turnne]

Are control arms still a deal with the post 2012 units?..I thought they fixed that issue

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I'm not entirely sure about this generation, there are enough expensive components on this vehicle that I still wouldn't buy it without a warranty

[@GrandmasMallCrawler]

is the wind noise due to wear and tear or it's there even when it's new?

[@mkkoper]

As for the wind noise. I have the same issue with the GS iv gen. Very annoying whistle coming from the window..., but it disappears once I fold down the mirrors while driving (just to check)... so a mirror design flaw? Maybe. I would have to check this on the passenger seat.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Very interesting test my friend thank you for sharing this! To me it felt like the Glass isn't closing properly or isn't getting sealed

[@danrol354]

Interesting

[@nickregnier1]

I nearly went for this car instead of GS. I think it is a great car but it was too large to drive in London. Parking spaces would be a challenge including some narrow roads... It is one of the best cars ever produced with amazing V8

[@MeynMotorGroup]

That makes sense! But one can def never go wrong with the GS and the eagerness it displays when driving its much sportier def a great choice!

[@omoniyikaye]

True talk I feel having live in London for over 3 decades. I also drive GS300 on 07 plate my 7th Lexus since 2002 to commute to work.

[@ClassicXL86]

I also own a 2017 Ls460 with 58k miles on it currently . Purchased it with 23k miles , not one issue since.

[@sixdonuts]

Hmmmm... I would think the LS would have no wind noise from the side windows. LS comes standard with double pane windows correct? My RX is really quiet even at 80 mph on a windy day.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yup double pane and all and you're correct many cars especially the new stuff like the RX and ES are almost totally silent. Something with these LS cars the glass isn't sealing properly still an issue with some LS 500 vehicles

[@fredgen4811]

Now I want one Kevin, thanks great video.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea my friend I want one too lol

[@350zlover2]

Don't blame you, I have a 2019 GS350 now but I want a LS as well. This is the perfect car for me.

[@SacRomero]

I first watched the (08 460 or close) video you did. I just missed out on a 08 with 137k but i might get a 2016 f sport version someone else was selling(they posted it and removed it twice) they said it's hard to part with it, (which i understand) Got about 150k miles. He is not posting it anymore and he's going to send me the Carfax. I may be able to get it for 18.5k ( I'm in northern CA.) What are your thoughts? I've owned the 07 is350 (loved it) besides the space factor and I really love the is-f & the gs-f are my first choice but can't get one for a reasonable price with clean title - I'll only buy clean - My question is - is the 2016 much better in your opinion than the 08? I was super bummed when I lost out on the 08 ( it was owned by older couple that took excellent care of it. I'd be paying about 10k more for the 2016. Should I just wait for the right gs 350 to come along? Or pull the trigger on the 2016? What do you think?? I really like your videos man. I am a subscriber😊 Keep up the good work!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

The 2016 LS is truly an epic vehicle I understand your yearning for wanting to buy that car. I will however caution you this is a flagship luxury car and outside of a warranty, this will be very expensive when it comes to repairs and maintenance. If you can afford it so be it but if not, the ES and RX might be a better choice and still great driving machines. Here's a full buyer's guide video I did on the LS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naOWaZ2KotGNa7c Also, please keep in mind this is a overinflated used car market with high interest rates, considering a new refined car might be worth it as well. Thank you for your kind words and support, God Bless!

[@GeNezza1]

You mentioned one of the changes in the 16-17 model, the improved insulation, but not the other change. What was it? Thanks

[@MeynMotorGroup]

It was the improved chassis my friend however there is no difference in driving compared to a 2013

[@Antoshkiv1]

Where is better noise isolation in MB w222 or in Lexus ls ?

[@robertyankevicz9852]

i own a 2017 LS 460 but i'm not happy with the ride. it has the optional 19' tires. i think the ride could be better. would 18' improve the ride or is a waste of time?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

If an LS doesn't ride good enough for you then just buy a CPO W222 S Class

[@eldonG407]

I have a 2014 in the same color but black interior. Love the LS460.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Nice!

[@ahmedgiyab]

Great review! Planning to buy a (2010-2012) mild-facelift of the LS. Haven't decided between the 460 and the 600h....were they improved significantly compared to the 2007-2009 models? What are your thoughts?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I am not sure but I dont think so honestly. I would still recommend a warranty tho especially on the 600

[@ahmedgiyab]

So the 460 is more reliable than the 600....obviously because of the massive battery pack of the 600h. Can the air struts be replaced with conventional coil overs?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yes! Air suspension can be replaced with coilovers for sure but I would still get a warranty on the 460 as well

[@sprague49]

Is that Zebrawood on the steering wheel and center console? What's up with the exotic woods lately? Walnut and Mahogany aren't good enough anymore?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

It is a fancy wood process for sure

[@Honja999]

Love the 460 but damn they are pricey to fix and harder to fix, going to stick with my ls430 🥰

[@ms3173]

These large luxury sedans look like cars for a king

[@MeynMotorGroup]

That's def true fit for a king

[@mrcl3an116]

Luv my 15 ls 460l awd executive package very rare I’m never selling will be a classic 20yrs from now the last of the v 8 test drive ls 500 hated the twin turbo v6

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Very nice my friend!

[@eyang7]

This is the best looking LS imo

[@MeynMotorGroup]

It is def nice!

[@kevinscott4189]

Haf an 09 awd very fun loved that car going to get 2 more another 09 and 13-17 im really liking those year models

[@bbustin1747]

Don’t have any air sound on my 2014 LS460F. And I certainly notice the air suspension at sport ++. and yes I have put in 25/26 hwy mpg avg 80/mph going to LV. I didn’t know that drag co efficient was that low.

[@derekmitchell6083]

This my exact car. Same color and everything! I do get some wind noise from the driver side but nothing major. The dealer calls all the time trying to buy it back but I’ll never sell

[@ravipeiris4388]

Absolutely beautiful car.

[@henrytruong9421]

Is that atomic silver or liquid platinum silver?