2017 Personality 04/05: Heroic and Shamanic Initiations

In this lecture, 04 and 05 combined, I discuss the relationship between the initiatory structure characteristic of shamanism and the process of radical personality transformation, self- or therapy-induced. The basic structure is order/paradise, chaos/the fall, re-establishment of order/paradise. Since all paradises fall, however, the true paradise is identification with the process of transformation itself.
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[@Saphirefenix]

I am so thankful that I can partake in this knowledge, for free, from my seat, with a hot chocolate. Very happy indeed.

[@markboggs746]

I can't believe you did not make us all a hot chocolate. I had to have Cocoa. :(

[@invin7215]

It's a great time to be alive, isn't it? I was thinking the same thing.

[@markboggs746]

Invin Did the Mayans not tell us about it or something? Around 2012 is when I figure the acceleration in the consciousness level of humanity really started to get going.

[@allday7327]

Me too

[@stevej5185]

It truly is amazing...

[@bradsatterwhite2592]

Favorite quote: *shakes fist* That's a mega chimp, man

[@robertjuh]

Brad Satterwhite I found the most hilarious one where he said the chimps almost literally yellow 'holy shot that is a big snake'

[@HolyHubcap]

Get the snakes out of your life...

[@edouarddeflandre]

And that's NO JOKE

[@jeebus6263]

Yea, more-so pyro than arsonist :p

[@tobinkaestner]

38:36 :)

[@sorhanft]

I wonder how many other "jordan Petersons" are out there giving talks to enlighten people and are still not discovered. Thanks to the postmodernist who shined light on this avatar.

[@soren.gaming3730]

amir karimloo Teodros Kiros is one of those people. However he’s well recognized in the philosophical world

[@ChadTheAlcoholic]

Honestly there's a bit of really great AA speakers out there that helped me. Bob D is one. You can find him on KZbin

[@ramram90]

Wes Cecil is one great guy who gives lectures on humanities.. available on KZbin..

[@gcarlson]

In respect to lectures, I don't know any. There are personalities (Dennis Prager) who have had a positive impact on me. But big picture, non specific but inspiring people such as musicians, composers, artists, authors, maybe even (maybe) hollywood actors who have elevated their game, doing what they are supposed to be doing, that have inspired me. I do feel that Jordan Peterson is actually doing God's work, specifically in this type of lecture. It is a blessing for people like myself who find Christianity confusing and dogmatic.

[@BedIntruder2107]

ImaginaryAdversary Dennis Prager is a charlatan

[@donnietompson7472]

What a world we live in. To have immediate access to a man as brilliant as Dr. Peterson, with a simple click of a button.

[@samwallaceart288]

All thanks to the abstract notions of “one” and “zero”. Roughly speaking.

[@raymondmaglaris4149]

a simple button press and the inclination to do so

[@wakeUPdummies]

Is it? We have forgotten who and what we are as a result of this wonder. We are as lost and as anxious as ever, mankind. Maybe, we should stop focusing as much on what we can do, and put more energy into doing what is truly beneficial, not just awesome inspiring. Just saying

[@bababillenial7861]

​@@wakeUPdummiesmat bol bhai!

[@wiley-harris-anderson]

Glad to see that the funding was put to good use, the quality is superb.

[@robertjuh]

Yea the first thing i noticed was the production quality! amazing!!!

[@phoboskittym8500]

not to be a bother but has anyone noticed not being able to add your own comment? i can only comment as a "reply" ?

[@MediaMalable]

"I'm not a fan of moral relativism... for a variety of reasons... partly because I think it is an extreme form of cowardice." I love how Peterson sometimes comes out with these marvelously cutting little asides.

[@abitoffblacksmithing9985]

Marcus Aurelius Ughhhhhhh !! No doubt ! that was my favorite quote!

[@MrMadalien]

Really hits hard, I was raised by a single mother and I grew up thinking that no opinion was better than any other, that all truths are subjective even empirical ones, etc. Through Peterson I think I found out that this is simply an overly effeminate mindset (that needs to be counterbalanced by the masculine).

[@trollmanthatrollington6407]

pretty much no one is a fan of moral relativism. its not a real position taken seriously by anyone, including postmodernists and marxists

[@kevintse2870]

Also, “well-being, which is an awfully weak concept.” A dig at Sam Harris.

[@maxonmendel5757]

@@kevintse2870 I love watching him and sam Harris cause they agree on virtually nothing but they manage to keep things so civil

[@hv4285]

"The strength that you develop in your monstrousness is actually the best guarantee of peace" 20:46. I don't know how JP always come up with these one liner on the the spot, but everytime i re-listen to his lectures i learn something new.

[@rudrathakkar1146]

It's philosophy you're always gonna find something meaningful in it

[@SomeNiceMovies]

Sometimes it's definitely on the spot, but I think he's had this lecture before. Not to take away from that wording, it's perfect just as you say. But he's definitely said that sentence many times

[@FiremarshalM1]

Thanks for the timestamp, I like the Pandora's box 📦 section too, he forgot to mention that HOPE ❤was at the bottom of the box too. 45:45

[@4EyedAnimation]

I am a little less stupid now.

[@4EyedAnimation]

I was making a joke at my own expense..the internet does not know how to handle self-deprecating humor...

[@4EyedAnimation]

I am now more stupider after reading that reply...thanks

[@4EyedAnimation]

is there an app to translate your comments into human

[@askyeshka726]

ObjectiveTenOutOfTen a comment only a four eyed can understand I suppose?

[@askyeshka726]

ObjectiveTenOutOfTen NEVER hit a four-eyed. NEVER hit a guy with glasses. Grab a Louisville Slugger instead more affective. Cast iron skillets work well too

[@williamkoscielniak820]

Something just popped into my head when Peterson was talking about the Lion King, something relating to life and death and good and evil. We normally do NOT celebrate someone being killed, in fact we think of it as one of the worst crimes that someone can commit. But when we kill an "evil" person we celebrate it, and hardly notice that killing took place. So when Symba killed Scar we cheered, because good triumphed over evil. When Osama Bin Laden was killed, we cheered, because good triumphed over evil. In other words, we are more attached to our emotions of what people represent (good and evil) then the people themselves. We don't cheer that a human life was taken, we cheer that what that life represents was taken, namely that evil was vanquished (at least momentarily). Even many pacifists cheer the death of a tyrant. It's fascinating.

[@TheMedWolf]

Reminds me of a great little essay Hegel published in a German newspaper titled "Who Thinks Abstractly." www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/se/abstract.htm

[@pullingthestringz]

Simba didn't kill Scar, he defeated him, then the hyena's killed him.

[@isaacburrows8405]

pullingthestringz the defeat was a representation of the defeat of what scar represented. him being killed was to tie up that loose end for the sake of the story.

[@markboggs746]

Yep pullingthestringz. The hyena's were Scar's" friends" up until then also..

[@williamkoscielniak820]

pullingthestringz: I appreciate the correction but my point still stands. He was killed and Simba played a role in that, and no one felt bad about it. Or again, with Osama Bin Laden, most people cheered when he was killed. People cheered when they learned Hitler committed suicide. And I'm saying that I don't think people are cheering the loss of life so much as what the life represents, since normally people don't cheer on murder or suicide.

[@dawnspence7781]

I live in the Yukon - a place of mystery in the long, and cold dark winter. But I have my fire and Jordy and a bottle of wine and life could not be richer. I appreciate the fact that folks at a distance are tuning in. Makes the mystery kind of shine.

[@lou-annbest1318]

Dawn Spence nice comment, I concur!

[@lou-annbest1318]

Wow, Jordan Pederson ! I've followed Jordan for many years and am as excited and greatfull to have found him as I was when I discovered Dovsoyevsky.. He is a jewel and truely hitting his stride now. Aren't we fortunate ?

[@motorcop505]

Dr. Peterson is Canada’s greatest gift to civilization. William Shatner is #2.

[@andrewmckeown6786]

Envious

[@dammistoaccount]

I'm a professional psychologist and even though I already know most of these things, Jordan's lectures are some of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Amazing guy

[@EmmaHinna]

I've been studying psychology for afew years now and I admit I lost most of my passion for it due to various reasons. While watching your lectures I remembered why I chose this field in the first place. I cannot thank you enough. We NEED more teachers like you. Please keep on doing what you're doing.

[@WalkToPoland]

I love listening to Jordan Peterson while I’m working through my 12h shift at the factory... time seems to exit peacefully without my awareness ever gazing upon the clock or other distractions. So grateful for the lessons.

[@VendaRec]

Man, your lectures are like a potion.

[@MarianoGabrielConti]

jasdjajsdaj right in the peter pan that I'm trying to grew into an adult.

[@dionysusyphus]

An alchemical potion👀

[@kirillazarov6865]

Well, that's definitely something to rub in my face...

[@leacwpc]

16:54 metareal 24:07 54:32 go in the underworld on purpose 1:10:14 adapated to the meta reality 1:11:03 brain can tell when optimally situated between chaos and order 1:13:04 1:15:23 unconcious mediates 1:24:53 1:26:45 slide 1:28:52 Heroic and Shamanic Initiations 1:32:07 slide 1:36:02 slide transformation 1:36:35 creative illness 1:56:00 resentful 2:09:45 agoraphobic considerations, what are you actually afrad of 2:26:18 initiation

[@jaydenrogers8709]

Thank you

[@Kidthatgotit]

🙏🏽

[@Smith.S.sStocHasticSs]

UR awesome!!

[@sethbarroo3409]

Everytime my thoughts are facing an incoherent crisis or when my general thought patterns are in disarray a thought sometimes pops up to watch one of JP's lectures. When I do his sense of wisdom, rationality and experience allow me to atleast make sense of the world again. Thank you.

[@eliasvargas4978]

Felt that

[@thefool1086]

same bro

[@kelvinxg6754]

Same bro

[@sn0wfir3_]

Same

[@BigBird104]

Fascinating man. I'm so glad we have the opportunity, through KZbin and the like, to hear his lectures. As someone who went to an opposing university in the city, I envy the opportunity to hear his lectures live!

[@coscorrodrift]

Exact same thought. But knowing myself, I'm not sure if I would have enjoyed them as much if they had to have been taking notes with the pressure of an exam, and another subject immediately after this same class. Also I'm watching all of these in like a week instead of across a whole semester. I'm quite sure that it would have been my favourite class to attend to during that semester though, Jordan is GOOD at what he does.

[@c.d.9430]

I'm binging everything in his channel. Wish me luck haha

[@ezion6032]

The strength you gain will make luck unnecessary.😎

[@ChadTheAlcoholic]

How was it?

[@ChadTheAlcoholic]

@Robert Spencer how long did it take you. How long have you been following jbp how's applying the principles working.

[@GreaseMonkey097]

Smart man

[@visakanv]

i'm following in your path

[@slappy8941]

I hope these students realize how fortunate they are to have this brilliant man as a teacher.

[@thegunner_7]

"If you want someone to do something, the best thing to do is tell them that they shouldn't and not explain why." Idk why but this resonated with me on another level...

[@PapperLapper]

Sounded a bit off to me, but I tried saying a couple productive things out loud to myself, that I "shouldn't do". I'm very sceptical so I quickly came up with counter-arguments for why I SHOULD get to work on those things. Seems like a pretty practical tool tbh haha

[@SK_TorON]

The theme that Dr. Peterson repeats often - that we are all capable of good and evil and that it is up to us to incorporate both of these tendencies inside ourselves without turning into a "universal victim" - this is actually very healing for people who have experienced narcissistic or psychopathic abuse. For any former target of a narcissist or a psychopath, the challenge is not to slide into a simplistic schema of being a victim, and to become assertive without becoming an jerk.

[@JohnnyTightIips]

Algorithm boost so others can watch this fascinating lecture for free

[@brucecole3263]

Peterson is a true gift to mankind. It’s unfortunate that many people have grossly inaccurate views about him.

[@wolflordy3193]

I love his lectures and how he brings in his family's childhoods as examples. It reminds me he's not just some academic, but human.

[@actionottawa]

This man is the pinnacle of one of the smartest people I’ve ever known of. He has seriously powerful wisdom to offer

[@coventrywildeheart7108]

What a great mind and great delivery of ideas. I watch Jordan's lectures at home - by myself - via the internet and yet still break into spontaneous applause at the end of these lectures.

[@rbtwotrees4725]

Dr. Peterson is a natural teacher, exceeding beyond anyone I've had the privilege to learn by. He generously laces these lectures with easily digested analogies and metaphors. His communication style is engaging and memorable...frankly, it surprises me how he can maintain such a lively pace about it. There is so much content that extends beyond the classroom - - when recalled or applied, they add value to, I imagine, a broad range of people, and their life journeys. Speaking for myself, I'm grateful to be able to hear these lectures. Thank you, Dr. Peterson.

[@offgridhacker]

Production quality is getting fantastic now, not that I had any problems with it before but its nice to see some of that patreon support is showing.

[@mindyschaper]

Always mindblowing. If I were an undergrad sitting in that class, I would not appreciate it the way that I do now as a slightly older adult. I am sure I will appreciate it more as I grow older.

[@DaniboyBR2]

I've been to College down here in Brazil, but I don't remember liking a teacher this much, or him having such an impact on myself as these lectures. I'm an atheist revisioning my view of religion, mythology, I can say I was one of those dumb atheists, that just dismissed all mythology as equally false, when in reality you can call it as much false as you can call it the truth.

[@Vineor]

Same here buddy, i started going back to it after witnessing the cultural collapse of the anglosphere within europe.

[@ODiaboQueDisse]

Idem, cara. Nunca prestei atenção na riqueza da mitologia. Mas a igreja não tem intenção de compartilhar isso nem em parte, ou no caso dos evangélicos, sequer as entendem. Se alguém obtivesse essa classe de informação indo para uma missa eu até relevaria as crenças confusas, mas se usa religião apenas para explicar o empírico, o que é patético. Mas, enfim, esse cara é foda, ele apresentou um novo tipo de espiritualidade, seja em Jesus, nos deuses gregos, Pinnochio ou no rei leão.

[@HolyHubcap]

I'm the same way. I have been an atheist that has dismissed religious truths as well. Dr. Peterson has given me new eyes on the ideas of mythology and the utility and placement in our culture. Truly incredible.

[@jeebus6263]

The truth is not literal, it's what you read between the lines.

[@FlyingUrakai]

Dan 123 k

[@nateauld]

1:18:37 The whole thing about openness and hyper self critical rationality as well as large potential creativity hits me so directly. It's fascinating to hear such accurate categorizations of mental processes, its like reading a horoscope or fortune cookie that's always right like, "oh, that's interesting, and it fits.." I think the internet is a stewing pot for this type of people too; openness in anonymity, critical humility in self assessment and creativity in intent. This is why JP is blowing up now that we've found him imo.

[@eltyo340]

Nate Auld I don't think it's the medium of the internet. I mean it greatly facilitates the communication of these videos to anybody interested, for sure! But really it's that when someone speaks the truth about our own essential nature, we lap it up like greedy pigs. It's so rare to get wisdom/knowledge like this, when we do see it, we crave it like a heroin addict. Unlike a heroin addict though, it refines us rather than destroys us :p

[@dicemm5544]

The more I hear Dr.Petersn talking about facing my fears and opening pandoras boxe, them more I realise why he says you should be terrified of yourself.

[@andresrosel821]

This is a meta class.

[@Faberte]

I don't know if any of Jordan Peterson's student's truly grasp how fortunate they are to be taught by such a mastermind and truly, TRULY, incredible human being. I envy them tremendously.

[@IncomitatusExcelsior]

A few maybe, but most? No. A lot of what he says requires life experience of journeying into that personal underworld to really understand. It's not impossible to have experienced that before being an undergrad - I think this is a 200-level course, so his students here are going to be mostly sophomores, I believe - but it's not common. I'm 35 now, I've been unemployed several times, I've had a failed engagement, I've had PTSD from an accident, and other horrible experiences... and I've come out the other side to a fairly stable and orderly life. Almost everything he says, to me, makes incredible sense. Had I listened to this lecture series when I was 20... his presentation would have still made it engaging, but 80% of it would have gone right past me as unrelatable. Human beings can't understand insights that are too alien to their lived experiences - they're just perceived as gibberish. We can understand things that are a little different from our experiences, especially if they are conveyed to us in a narrative form. Narrative actually makes it possible to learn and comprehend ideas that are fairly different from out own experiences, but it can only go so far. AND... Peterson's lectures talk about narrative a lot, BUT they are not narrative-ly formatted themselves, and that limits their comprehensibility to people who haven't experienced enough of the fundamental tragedies of life that are the cornerstones of his view of human existence in the world. These are great lectures, but I fear they are wasted on the young... except those who've already had fairly tragic lives, which I presume a few of his students will have, but not most.

[@anonunknown7999]

I disagree with what you say about his insights being "perceived as gibberish". I think anyone can relate to the tragedies of life, because they are universal. Everyone understands that life is full of sad events. Who hasn't noticed that they will one day die, and then questioned how they are using their limited time? Who hasn't noticed that life isn't fair, not even in the developed world? Who has gone a single day without some negative emotion? We've all been there, and that's how we are able to relate to the great stories of mankind. I do not think anyone with a brain can deny what he's saying here as meaningless gibberish. There's obvious symbolism with snakes and dragons etc. They're not just arbitrarily chosen animals. Surely everyone can accept that? He even explains in depth his beliefs and insights, so why would someone disregard what he says. Maybe I can agree with him because I'm an extremely open-minded person who has experienced some degree of tragedy (not as severe as your experiences).

[@pinkdispatcher]

I really like how you often go off on a tangent. I used to do that in my lectures, too, even though they were on a very technical engineering subject. There's a lot more creativity involved in engineering than people may think, although what you can and cannot do is not arbitrary. "You can't fool nature", as Richard Feynman famously observed. That also rings true with what Jonathan Haidt said about having to choose one Telos. If you don't choose truth in engineering, things will blow up quickly.

[@phoult37]

I go on tangents as well. To me, it shows that the speaker is actually thinking while speaking, not just speaking from a script.

[@captainfalcon8615]

It's hard to even comprehend how valuable Jordan's lectures and his precious his care for human kind is

[@EvanJHagen]

To me, starting at 1:45:43…this is JBP at his best. If there’s any lecture to watch, that’s it. No political rambling, no talk of “neomarxist postmodernists:” it’s all about shamanic initiation, encountering chaos, CBT, psychoanalysis, all that awesome jazz. I miss JBP before fame changed him. Great lecture.

[@vishvnaik2756]

I absolutely agree with u; old jp = gold jp = KZbin lecturer jp. new jp comes across as someone ideologically & politically possessed THIS JP >> Current jp in my opinion 🌀

[@missphilosophie]

Both can coexist at once. I enjoy both.

[@tristanmoller9498]

@@vishvnaik2756 I understand how that happened. I walked with FridaysForFuture for climate action as a student. As the election in Germany came around in 2021, I looked up all of the climate change plans of every party and it turned out the libertarian party in Germany (FDP) actually had the most effective and efficient plan for climate change. This surprised me because they were well known to be close to industry. Talking to my friends, at least those who were interested in politics as much as I was, I realized that no one could offer a good counter argument. So some of us actually, even though we were protesting for climate action, did not vote for the green party but rather for the libertarians. I'm grateful that I was able to have these civil conversations with my close friends, I wanted to have the idea, that the most unlikely party had the most comprehensive plan, challenged again and again but it stood strong in every discussion. The conversations at the protests were different though. Not only was no one open to a discussion about how to solve the problem, they genuinely didn't care to learn about this party's plan. Those were people I was chanting with and they did not care for the best solution, they just cared for their party to win, like when you support a sports team. If they simply didn't trust the libertarian party, I didn't care, then the Green Party should adopt and implement the plan. I was incredibly disappointed. Made me see many of them in a new light. I became comparatively cynical about the movement and that side of the political aisle. It's like they cared more about fighting than about what they were fighting for. The plan the libertarian party proposed was a CO2-Certificate Trading System, in which the price of a certificate is determined by the market and the overall number of certificates corresponds to the rest of the CO2-Budget that is left for Germany, when you divide the world CO2-Budget by population. A certificate trading system was the main political solution for closing the ozone layer over Australia, the formerly biggest environmental problem before climate change.

[@tacticalvictorian5371]

14:32 - 14:45 - a student looks through the gap of the door. - confirms the camera is looking other way - sneaks in to the class. stealth-master. damn, i am a bad student.

[@moogeyman]

LOL

[@MrSuarezno7]

LOL

[@captainjack6758]

LOL

[@BanterrClaus]

i was about to comment this then saw your comment

[@lyndonstucker6710]

What you need is where you refuse to look. When you hear the truth it is simply energizing.

[@javierlandry7246]

That was an absolute revelation.

[@HaydenPerno]

I am glad the class applauded him for that second lecture. He was on fire

[@lewisfitzjohn]

'Loving the Britney style microphone. It sounds very clear, frees up your movement and comes with the added bonus of making you look like a cyborg from the future.

[@dillonarnold1230]

I listen to these while at work sipping on coffee

[@konan8353]

Jealous of your life

[@ryangibson5554]

I could listen to Mr peterson all day. Such a privilege to be able to listen to him. Thank you Mr peterson.

[@OlliePage]

I just watched 1:39:01 through to 1:39:20 - he made himself vulnerable for a moment talking about the troubles his kid had. His body language changes, his voice quietens as he finishes that train of thought, and if you look closely, even the final double-blink he makes after "so.." feels significant

[@joshuadanlogangu3]

Good catch

[@the-chillian]

You're talking about Captain Hook in almost the same breath as pointing out the Tyrant and the Wise King are two sides of the same coin. I was surprised you didn't mention the theatrical tradition -- as if to illustrate this very point -- where Mr. Darling (Wendy's, John's, and Michael's father) and Captain Hook are played by the same actor. Even the Disney film followed this tradition by having the same actor voice both characters, even though they drew them to be quite distinct. The 2003 film also observed it. NB: "Peter Pan" was a play before it was a novel, based on a character from an earlier novel. So the theatrical tradition is of very long-standing.

[@TilveranWrites]

I have to say, there are some devastating revelations in these lectures. Amazing and eye opening, like little soul-deaths and as-yet-unformed rebirths. Transformations and choices. Boy am I making choices. It's all good though.

[@pcsecuritychannel]

"Clean your room and don't be snake snack" - Jordan Peterson

[@konan8353]

"Be a big strong beaver and protect your community" - J.P

[@darkodosen1025]

@@konan8353 roughly speaking :P

[@videonmode8649]

"And watch out for that snake that lurks inside of you"

[@for_your_entertainment]

Also, lobsters

[@sylvainrobert5156]

Hey, you know, fair enough

[@emilyshaffer4402]

So happy I can watch his lectures with a pause button. It takes a brain a little bit to process what he says

[@paularizona6720]

I am, once again, eternally grateful. I am following you, every word, every concept. And I offer you my humble thanks.

[@qqn4531]

Idk if anyone will see this comment, but as I've watched some of his lectures he gave at the uni of Toronto, I've always wondered how do the sudents in these lectures do to understand and grasp most of what he says and in the same taking notes on their computer. It's really a question that has been tormenting me. And I think the answer is that those who actually take the time to write notes while he speaks don't understand a good amount of his points. I mean, personally, when I watch one of his lectures, I always have to have my mind focused on his speech without doing anything else, and it seems incredible to me that some people can do it while taking notes edit: or maybe it's because english isn't my native language

[@paganlecter6819]

Yep. Same here. I tried ironing clothes while listening to him....didn't work out. I have to sit oat tge computer and watch him, or either play some very easy game and listen to him because otherwise nothing comes out of the experience

[@bonniemegargift]

When Dr. Peterson speaks like this, 40 years evaporate and I am an awestruck student excited about life and learning again.

[@songohan9182]

"If you cant even think about it, you have some thinking to do" that rocked me...on a few different levels. Always learn just a little bit too much listening to mr. Petersen. Lol

[@motorcop505]

Don’t forget the lobsters, snakes, and unhappy clams!

[@rugbyrocks123321]

God. These lectures are so thought provoking. I feel the need to grab a note book and thoroughly write down these thoughts. It would probably be greatly beneficial. I'll do this when I'm done with school this year, can't wait.

[@eltyo340]

Arden P exactly my thoughts! Even from the first three lectures I've gained so much from taking notes, highly recommend

[@royalwithoutcrown161]

How is it going? It has been five years.

[@dc9482]

I thank Joe rogan for exposing me to this man every day

[@jimfelton7895]

I have confronted the unimaginable....finding my oldest daughter dead. She'd been dead some 30-40 hours, alone (she was 28, my firstborn). It's been over three years...I was seized and pulled down into the maw he talks about ...these lectures help understand my helplessness and confronting chaos....I just hope to emerge someday. Been rough. Nothing will ever be the same again, and the "future" has become a foreign concept. I guess I share in hoping a morsel of hope or insight or support might ensue.

[@tristanmoller9498]

I'm so sorry for your loss.

[@dasisleudagar4145]

Thank you for this, Sir. The world would be a much sweeter place if more people taught with your passion and intelligence.

[@PabloGamedev]

It is funny that I just want to attend to Jordan Peterson's classes way more than I want to attend to my actual university classes. I guess it is beccause how good as a professor and person he is, that he manages to engage into loving what he is talking about.

[@elastronaute1198]

This guy is such a good teacher lol, imagine having this standard of lecturer in most universities, it just doesn't happen at ALL.

[@benk.psy32]

"The fact that you have limitations means that the plot of your life is the overcoming of those limitations"

[@rachaelsetzer3917]

I can't get over these kids strutting in like they're not even late. P.S. Professor P, thank you for letting us get your wisdom for free.

[@funygameur]

01:20:22 to 01:24:53 *_Be Useful in the face of death_* _It's useful to put yourself trough initiations, facing your fears or proving (to yourself) that your limits can be pushed_ (also, it's the passage that didn't get out of my head since more than one year, I always think : "Will I be a shoulder to cry on, useful and strong for others, when my parents pass away" this though helped me get stronger)

[@SmarterWithRahul]

59:00 Kali (Maa Kali: Maa stands for Mother) is also called sometimes Kali Devi (Devi means Goddess). So she's the dark side of Shakti (Shakti is Shiva's Wife. Shakti is also known as Parvati). Shiva is also a Hindu god. Kali represents the dark or shadow side of Shakti. Kali literally means a female of dark complexion. The Image where Kali is standing on Shiva was a representation of a battle when Kali got out of control and wanted to destroy the whole Universe. So, in order to calm her down, Shiva laid himself down below her right foot. As JP said, Kali is not giving birth to Shiva. Kali is Shiva's Wife who's just mad angry. Just wanted to note down the correction for anyone who's intrigued by that picture.

[@Shlungoidwungus]

Your skill at teaching such abstract concepts is astounding. You manage to do it in a comprehensive way which helps develop a better understanding of these concepts, but at the same time you do it without asserting objectivity onto an innately subjective framework, and in doing so you apply a sense of rigor which is so painfully lacking in the psychological sciences. I study mathematics and spend several hours a day (on weekdays mostly) studying different problems, and working towards my own perceived end-goal, and in doing that it's very easy to get into a rut of thinking within a logical framework that is _too_ tight. This kind of thinking often leads to severe stagnation in my work, and can be seriously demoralizing. Because of that, it's certainly helpful to take a break and focus on things that are far less logically rigorous, but that still have substance to them, and that still require some semblance of thought. These lectures are precisely that, a good balance of thought and rigor, they're not too painfully rigorous, but at the same time there is still a great deal to think about at the end of every one. I just wanted to thank you for your work, and for providing this kind of an education to the public, your insights and advice have helped me and many others towards a path of self-improvement which can only serve to help in the future.

[@paulcesargonzalez3331]

What I am afraid of is that I will never fully understand how your words have healed my mind, how at times they hold me together in debate, how God's word is your base and from it you build a beautiful bouquet of everfloresent neon flowers. Thank you sir for being there when I need you and thank you for your example to follow. God keep you and yours close to his heart.

[@Davito2000]

I K-Holed during my wisdom teeth extraction over a decade ago, (I thought it was a NDE, but it was likely a result of Ketamine and Nitrous Oxide. But who knows? There is a lot in common.), and it was the single most profound experience of my life. Everything went like your conventional out-patient procedure: slowly drifting away into a deep sleep... but then I woke up inside myself. The drowsiness was gone and I was completely cognizant, but I had no control over my body. Then, after some time, came a wave of euphoria, ecstasy, and unconditional love followed by the opening of a vortex. All bodily sensation slipped away: there was no need to breathe, there was no pain, there was no fear. The only desire was to be closer to the source of this feeling, which I posited as being God. All those stories in the Bible of people singing praises for eternity at the Throne seemed painful and torturous before, but if they felt this, then it was the least that was due. The contentions of the material world? Frivolous. Lust, hunger, desire for material wealth? Nonexistent. There was only a palpable sense of love, understanding, and of going home. And then I came back. Everything hurt, breathing was hard. Emotion was a shallow thing in the material world; only anger and sorrow were more pronounced, and they hurt too. I'm not ashamed to say that I had to fight back tears. If babies feel this coming into the world, I understand why they scream so. If what I felt was even remotely accurate to what it's like beyond the mortal existence, then the concept of reincarnation is torturous. This life is only rich in suffering and all that is good is deafened compared to what I felt. I suppose I still see it as equivalent to a NDE, being as alien as it was. Even the most rich of dreams and the most vivid and exciting of life's moments cannot compare.

[@LilyGazou]

Davito2000. Amazing story. Thanks.

[@lastfreegeneration984]

I K-holed after I got back drunk one night..after a joint and then a fat line..it was the worst experience ever man...hell, i got ripped out of my body, thought i was dead, floated around between worlds in a horrible blackness then got plunged again and again into entire liftimes, each time begging not to be sent to another...it was like zooming out of a black n white 3D spherical fractal then float above it as it rotated under me before getting slammed hard-zoom into another one. Each one felt like a whole lifetime and it was exhausting and terrifying and felt it would never end....the last one i went back into a particular zoom level at a particular place then stayed there and lo and beyond that was my old self....getting back into my body was like pushing out of latex and feeling the world i knew...i saw my room and was so relieved but as soon as my body was deparalysed my back arched violently and repateadly as i wretched n vomited everywhere...my arms worked before my legs so i dragged my self on the floor by my arms to the trash can and wretched into the trash but at the same time i was so glad to be alive and back in my room. never again...awful combo...but i had incredible experiences with k...just incredible...the best...but never mix with alcohol...its the worst

[@jacksobrooks]

People underestimate the glory of God. Its impossible to make too big a deal of God.

[@BanterrClaus]

@@lastfreegeneration984 yes. ket and booze is not good

[@PsychicSploob]

Love this post. I experienced a lot of this kind of thing on psychedelics, but I didn’t feel the dread of life as much. That oneness is something that changes you forever after you experience it.

[@ladyfaye8248]

'don't sit in that chair' is like 'Father Ted' telling Dougal not to press the red button in the plane. it was so hilarious.

[@kimjensenable]

He scares the hell out of me! I absolutely adore him.

[@thomasslynch1]

Jordan Peterson has changed my life. I am now on the cusp of a six-figure employment contract and woman love me. Thanks for suggesting Crime and Punishment and The Brother Karamazov, I read them and they had a profound impact on me too. Man I love this dude.

[@thomasslynch1]

I met him last year after one of his talks, I shook his hand and felt like the only person in the world... haha

[@satyamgoyal2670]

These are dream security lessons as in the movie inception

[@Joel_G_NZ]

1:18:45 Yes sir and I scored 95% for openness and find myself not just watching these lectures but replaying some sections up to four times over. I am an addict of your rants.

[@TheSektorz]

How amazing it is that we can watch this online for free from any part of the world. Him not getting this online would've been a real waste. His lectures need to be seen by millions, they're really interesting and he's giving his all delivering them.

[@ryPish]

Now I know what I'm doing tonight :3

[@giorgichkhartishvili2776]

finished watching 2016 year lectures on personality, but still find these very informative!

[@jmr218]

Everyone should hear Peterson's articulation of chaos and order. So well put, and so applicable.

[@wijkeg4558]

Watching this in Feb/20, I'm thinking how Dr.Peterson is describing his own current life. He got 'pulled down into the underworld' in 2019. May God bless him and his family and bring him to greater strength than ever!

[@jamalramadan9375]

This is not a human being, this man is an angel- really he is.

[@cameronwhitehead6601]

I remember having a dream where I was at the beach and there was a giant wave coming but I was paralyzed with fear, this lecture helped me understand its meaning!

[@MrJohnMarbles]

Thank you so much! I can't wait to get home tonight and listen to this. Your last post was amazing, thank you for the influx of posts!!

[@thesophisticatedtarzan1797]

Professor Jordan B Peterson is one of the most intellectual, and knowledgeable person I know in his field. It's an honour to study your lectures even if it's through the internet. #respect

[@het314]

Your lectures should be made mandatory in school.

[@MrHihi333]

Dr. Peterson, I am truly enjoying the quality of the new content. Please keep up the good work!

[@cyp13]

This lecture is so amazingly rich in content.Thanks Dr. Peterson!

[@aristocrat4676]

Came here for the lecture Stayed for the audiobook

[@2107camilo]

Upselling my friend!

[@klaus2913]

Jordan, I want to thank you for everything you do. I never went to university, but hot damn, everytime I am listening to your lectures I do regret not taking the opportunity and enjoying the privilege of listening to the smartest minds in the world. Kudos to you for sharing this knowledge for free!

[@matthew8505]

I've been forced to sit through several college phych/lit/phil classes. Only 20% of professors in those fields are half as informative as Peterson

[@bjornhouben2594]

Thank you so much mr Peterson. It's just amazing that you put these lectures for free on youtube. Also, good luck with your 'battle' with the ridiculous nonsense of the post-modernists

[@deepdreamswasted]

That was a crazy. Journeyed through history and psychology theories with funny comments and interesting stories. Simply great -

[@richardriveramassa3520]

I have greatly benefited from these lectures. I have the uttermost respect for Dr. Peterson. Common sense is very uncommon.

[@TheVanessalala]

Thank you. For guiding us to the light with your profound soul moving lectures. What you are giving to your students and followers is invaluable.

[@alphadarkocharlie9312]

awesome lectures! also for anybody interested check out Stanfords lecture on evolutionary biology, simply amazing

[@FarFromEquilibrium]

So are Stanford's lectures by Susskind on theoretical physics.

[@YodasPapa]

I second that. Sapolsky's lectures were what led me to JP's lectures (with a little help from youtube's recommendation algorithms). Both have had a major impact on how I think about human behaviour, including my own. I don't think most people really grasp the moral, societal and psychological implications of the fact that we are products of evolution by natural selection and these lectures are a nice antidote to that.

[@markboggs746]

JP and Sapolsky appear to differ on the line between humans and animals RE consciousness.

[@paragon1782]

Thank you guys! I love to get good recommendations by word of mouth. They seem to be of higher quality usually.

[@IrredeemablyEvil]

This comment thread is gold.

[@attyeichholz]

This man is brilliant!

[@reginaluv82]

Dr. Peterson, I would SO sit in this chair. This is a comical class. I am in love with you and you teachings. Mrs. Peterson is very very lucky

[@stefan1924]

This really is a map. It is a guiding light that provides a sense of direction in a confusing world. Without it I might have gone lost years ago.

[@szkoclaw]

This is the best example of how Universities are obsolete. What did the students in that room get beyond what I got? $50k bill.

[@jebbush8491]

Absolutely - I give universities another 15 years and that is only because of the monopoly of access to fields such as medicine or legal. I would love to see the apprenticeship system make a comeback.

[@soolikagsdi]

That and a piece of paper that says they went.

[@HarryManback0]

I slightly disagree. Having to put in the time studying for exams created by a particular professor over the material they present is where most of the real learning and thinking occurs. Unless someone who is watching these lectures on KZbin is taking very detailed notes and spending time doing very in-depth research of the topics, they are not really getting the full benefit of the lectures.

[@supervesp]

They get to actually talk to the guy and other likely minded people hopefully. That's a big plus you don't get from MOOCs. But if you are on the other side of the ocean like me, this is already fantastic.

[@GPaulTheThrashKing]

If you do the reading as well. (assignments are on his website) then you'll get a lot more.

[@drummerscomplex2340]

Ayahuasca is a very difficult process that requires a Hero's mind to continue once you start. I spent a month in Brazil, and every third night I drank the brew. It will indeed bring you to the depths of hell, show you what lies there (within the deepest recesses of your subconscious), and then manages to draw it to the surface like a venom or poison. Shamanic initiation is a part of the old human way that should never have been lost.

[@markboggs746]

It was not lost. It was hidden. Deliberately. By men. To control men.

[@KeenyNewton]

I’m absolutely in awe of Jordan Peterson. He is an amazing man and there is so much to learn.. it’s like learning about LIFE & how to live.

[@anthonyseppi3791]

I wear headphones at work all day and listen to JP. This information has been extremely helpful in my life. I haven't been able to identify with anyone for a long time till I discovered Jordan Peterson. Thank God for him and everyone he has learned from. I wish more woman listened to content like this.

[@SantinoDeluxe]

1:13:00 i love how he sets up and explains the intrinsic nature of music, hands down, the most profound 2 minutes(give or take) ive ever heard on the subject. the man is pulsing with life and the knowledge thereof. and like a psychological graffiti artist, we can see his pride as he scoffs at those who would not understand and yet laughs it off knowing his argument can not be torn down. shits deep, bruh. #shitsdeep

[@rajab2852]

I'm not even dating anyone right now but I want to raise kids the way Jordan Peterson describes and see their reaction when I show them these videos to them.

[@MrJas321]

Everything he says about raising kids to be likable is what I did/am doing with mine (oldest 14, youngest 6), and it works. They socialize well with all ages in all situations and they're always asked back. They're confident, cheerful, friendly, and thoughtful of others. Also, whenever they finger-point with each other (they're still kids, after all😂) I ask them each to step outside themselves and look at their own behavior like they would a character in a book they were reading, analyze what they did wrong, what they need to do to fix it, and how to act next time to both keep from making the same mistake, and move toward the person/character they want to be. Stumbling across Dr. Peterson a month ago and hearing what he says about raising kids and sorting yourself out was so damn comforting. Raising children is the most-anxiety-inducing yet rewarding life experience there is; you can feel more confident about the whole thing, following the principles he outlines. They work. I hope you have a great marriage and lots of great kids one day; there's nothing better.

[@vigotian]

although i've watched this so many times. but now i'm so drunck and can't stopping watchiing this. thank you Dr. JP

[@Theoneandonlyanojan]

This one was so impactful on me. You're such a good speaker and I am so grateful for this series. Truly, thank you.