2017 SPECIALIZED S-WORKS STUMPJUMPER FSR 6FATTIE MTB TEST RIDE | The Singletrack Sampler

[@1000stevenbl]

First video on KZbin that I watched about your mountain bike journey... dude you have gone a long way in the past 2 years... friends, car, van, trips, redemption... yeah... you most definitely have had a epic journey!!! Keep sending it!!

[@jakonovski]

I really like the non-gearhead angle of your test rides. Makes for a refreshing change compared to the usual formula of focusing on the spec sheet. Keep up the good work!

[@The_Sampler]

+jakonovski thanks dude!! I like to ride for feel since that is what will translate to most viewers anyway!

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

Great vid and review. Thanks for concentrating on the ride, how the bike felt, not the gear. For those interested, this Stumpy was Outside Magazine's 2017 bike of the year, after multiple rides over varying terrain.

[@SobanBhatti]

We have the Jeremy, James and Hammond trio in the car world and then we have Brian, Alex and Seth in the mountain biking world.

[@DavidGamero]

No that would be gmbn

[@marcwittkowski5146]

The energy you emit while riding is amazing. I cannot help but smile throughout the footage. Great video.

[@The_Sampler]

Wow dude, that's so awesome to hear that my vids make you smile. Powerful 💪

[@zackarina0576]

I just started watching your Chanel for like 2 months and you are the best mtb Chanel out there in my opinion. Keep up the great work

[@The_Sampler]

Yeeewwwwww I love hearing that!! I'll keep creating videos, if you keep watching. Deal?

[@E2tge]

I made the change to 27.5 Plus from 29er! love it!

[@olliechristopher467]

Holy shit! Talk about multitasking. I can only imagine how fast you would be flying down that trail if you were 100% focused and not describing the characteristics of the bike. I'm actually taking the dust off my old 90's Bianchi road bike and get back in the saddle. You have inspired me young man. Thank you!!

[@The_Sampler]

Don't forget to smash that thumbs up button if you enjoyed!!! :D

[@khyrenhoskovec2584]

The Singletrack Sampler That button is dead because of how much I smashed it. Someone's into fat tires 😁

[@The_Sampler]

hahaha 👍👍👍👍

[@MTBdropIN]

LIKED baby!!!! Great Vid!

[@bubba41123]

I enjoy your videos, and your good vibes! Keep up the hard work!

[@The_Sampler]

+bubba41123 Thanks dude!! :D

[@txstumpy5536]

Hey man, I was on the fence about bikes and lost in a sea of indecision, but the Stumpjumper fattier was sticking around the top of my list. Then I watched this video and, well, decision made. Just bought the 2018 Stumpjumper 6fattie. Thanks for the advice and all the great videos. Keep up the good work!

[@drumsxo]

Another epic video, my friend! :D I'm actually really glad that you made this video too, since the Stumpjumper FPS Comp 6Fattie might be my next bike! I've had my eye on it for a while, after having ridden my 29er all season, and then taken a ride on a friend's 650B+ setup. I'd be opting for the less expensive model just because it would take me a long time to save up for the super expensive model. But, I still think it would be a good choice, and a huge step up over my 29er Hardtail that I ride now.

[@The_Sampler]

+Patrick Williams dude that is SICK. I think it'll be a huge step up from a hard tail for sure. Think you'll have it for next season?

[@drumsxo]

Not a chance, unfortunately. Had Brian not been participating in the Chasing Epic ride in Utah next April, I'd be saving my money for the bike. But, since I am determined to attend that trip, the new bike has to wait. I've already given my deposit for the trip!

[@The_Sampler]

Holy shit Patrick THAT'S FREAKING AWESOME!! Dude I'm so friggin' jealous!

[@drumsxo]

Dude, it's gonna be such a good time! It'll be my first time far away from NY, my first real vacation, my first time on a Mountain Bike Trip, and my first time meeting KZbinrs! Hopefully you and maybe even Seth can make it out there along with Brian!

[@odogtriever]

Patrick Williams go for it! Got that exact bike last year. All smiles all the time! Not sure how everyone is not already on + size bikes!

[@Rambleon444]

Since we are comparing. Doesn't the S Works cost at least twice as much as your bike?

[@neilk22]

Carbon vs Alloy frames too, don’t recall a comment on weight difference. Also I’m sceptical about the ohlins kit on the Sworks, fox is impossible to beat.

[@jaimejimenez4794]

Thanks for the comparison! I'm currently looking at purchasing either a stumpjumper 29er or Enduro 29.

[@Johnroberts2013]

Hey Alex, Next year you should go to Copper Harbor, Michigan in the summer. It is a really cool place and really far way from any other civilization and is a small place with really good riding. They even have two downhill trails there! I definitely recommend it, even though I'm only 14 I've been to Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and California for mountain biking. Even with that I can honestly say Copper Harbor is the coolest place I have ever been to and some of the best riding. What really makes the place special is the atmosphere and the people there. Best place ever.

[@TheSoldkall]

Very Nice Alexander, pure happiness to see you doing the revue and trying to survive!

[@georgeredbranch1186]

my first Specialized FSR was in 1994 l think. had a rear coil spring suspension that ran vertically from the rear triangle to the top tube/seat post the bike was chromoly front fork was a rockshox using rubber inserts.Was pretty heavy but fun to ride. l would love to feel how things have changed over the past 23 years. keep up the great videos.

[@b.r.3232]

that was a complete blast!! I ride a Specialized Trail SX-III which is like the Stumpy, although mine is older, but faily modified/upgraded, which I can relate to some of your findings. FSR's are really nice bikes. Loved the video, was a complete blast. Makes me want to ride, but is winter, and have stored the bikes for the season. Thanks for a fun watch!!

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks for watching!! Stoked you enjoyed it :D

[@ilirmirzo5459]

Weird, when I went from stumpy 29 to stumpy 6fattie and I crushed literally all my usually segments and PR'd them across the board without having a solid feel for the new plus tires, the setup etc. Also I'm surprised you feel it's not as responsive to turning with the steeper head angle than the enduro. I think it's the tires, not the head angle. Plus tires are super finicky to PSI and suspension setup. I think with some more seat time and setup, you'd enjoy it more as I have. Keep up with the great vids man!

[@mtbboy1993]

good points. tyres can make a huge difference, I had bontrager se 4 team issue on my fuel ex 29er, then and maxxis high roller 2s on the other, the sea 4's had a knob pattern that made the steering a lot faster, but the tyre did not grip as well,it was not as sticky or as soft,and did had less open pattern on the side than high roller 2s, which resulted in me washing out on a fast corner, I run high rollers 2's on both bikes now. head angle will play have most effect on steering stability,more stable steering with slacker head angle,but fork offset bar wight stem length play a role in this too. a very steep head angle can of course effect how fast you are in rough terrain because it will give aggressive/fasts steering which can result in you steering when you did not want to steer,which makes you slower. but on these bikes it does not matter that much, if it was a xc bike with steep head angle and narrow bars it would,but as you get used to it it can be a lot easier, but it would still have a noticeable effect.

[@ilirmirzo5459]

I agree with you on that. In the vid tho, he states the enduro was more nimble in steering (I forgot exactly what he said but something along those lines) and he thinks it's because of the head angle. The enduro head angle is slacker, which does not make it more nimble in the steering department over the Stumpjumper which has a steeper head angle. So what he's feeling is the delay in steering From the plus size tires.

[@ilirmirzo5459]

Listen from 9:40. He said the enduro feels more nimble and he thinks it's due to the head angle. A steeper head angle (if chain stays are same length) will Make for a more flick able and responsive bike. Not trying to sounds like a know it all, just sharing all the things I have experienced by switching over to plus tires after years of riding and racing "regular" sized tires. There's a lot these tires do that makes the suspension feel off or the steering etc. Took me a solid month to really dial my plus bike down to understand the new tires since they also play a role in "tire suspension". Everyone said low psi and normal suspension settings. I found higher psi (20 psi range) with suspension setup for someone slightly lighter than myself but used bigger volume spacers to be key to get the most out of it

[@MTBdropIN]

Wow thats awesome valuable information, thank you very much for the insight!!

[@mtbboy1993]

Yea all true.

[@bajaigo]

Brother, at 11:57 you said exactly what I was looking for - "We had a 10 mile climb up to the trail". That is now my main need ( Im now in my 60's, and damn, Im learning that you actually slow down on the uphills!- fuck ) I have a 10 mile - gravel road that goes from 2k to 4.7K in elevation. I just need the E for a half power assist. Once I tackle that hill I will turn the E-off, as then I jump one one of many single tracks and just fly home!! Its cake everyday! What would you estimate the range of a continuous uphill grade on a gravel road, and would that just fry the motor? Thanks? Great review.

[@camo2010]

Looks like you're having fun Alex. And that's what it's all about. Keep up the awesome videos.

[@The_Sampler]

AGREED 👍

[@kevinsbott]

I have the S Works Enduro. (2016) . Total game changer for me. Does it all wonderfully and i am riding rocks etc that I never thought possible.

[@MitchWarren44]

Nice job Alex !!! I went from Scott Genius carbon LT 26 to Enduro 29er dumped a 34 tooth on it ! It's so fast I only go out on the Scott when the Enduro is in the bike shop!

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Mitch! Ooooh I wanna ride a 29er Enduro. I've only been on the 27.5 thus far

[@MitchWarren44]

Alex the 29er is like your bike but on steroids!!!

[@blueage1560]

I also demoed an S-Works 6Fattie Stumpy, it was such a fun bike until I broke it... Definitely keen to get a plus bike.

[@joeldh7567]

I love this video man. I definitely think that the Enduro won because its a little more on the competition side. The Stumpjumper, fast and capable as it is, isn't built to race. The Enduro is, and that is why, despite being heavier, the Enduro won. Enduro forever man! I also have been curios about this issue, and I have this on my favs list now! Keep these quality videos coming!

[@The_Sampler]

Yo, thanks Joel! You keep watching, and I'll keep making them!

[@mattschraidt4836]

Thanks Alex for answering me on last nights stream, you have helped me decide on which bike to get. I will be buying it in 4 days and will ride some trails at Mountain Creek for my upcoming birthday (October 3rd), thanks again man. Stoked about this new stumpjumper fattie !!!

[@The_Sampler]

+Matt Schraidt dude that is awesome!!! So stoked to hear that and couldn't think of a better way to spend a birthday!

[@dirragon1]

Cool little comparison. I would say more comp would be needed to be able to get a clearer picture, simply because there are so many factors that affect speed on a ride on different days. But I like this basic comparison, and it makes sense to me that the Enduro would wallop the chunk just a little better. However I do have to say that plus tires can make a pretty huge difference on downhills. I've been riding a Pivot Mach 429c for a couple of years now, and just got a Trek Stache 9.6 29+, and even though the Stache is a hardtail, it definitely feels more confident on downhill rips than the Pivot. This is down to lots of factors that combine to give it that confidence of course (Stache is a bit slacker, has a dropper post, and has a burlier fork), but the 29+ tires have so much grip, and feel so stable that it really makes a huge, huge difference. Of course it's a little easier to compare a full suss to another full suss than it is a full suss to a hardtail, and I'll have to get quite a few rides under my belt with the Stache before I can genuinely go for a realistic Strava segment comparison. Anyway, I digress. Thanks for the vid man, keep 'em comin'! Love it!

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Zach! It's not perfect for sure, but it sure was fun!

[@BenParman]

Awesome video. That whole trail network is so much fun.

[@notsponsored103]

one of your best! you're a great entertainer! Really good and relevant bike test/review, actually better than any other test/reviews I've seen. loved it!

[@The_Sampler]

Thank you so much!!!

[@MaxWilliams]

I rode the stump jumper fsr at revolution bike fest and it's the best bike I have every ridden

[@brandonburchett3292]

The commentary while you are riding is freakin awesome.

[@Reddingadventurehub]

I did the same debate before opting for the Stumpjumper 6Fatty. In the end it came down to where I ride having lots of technical riding and climbing, and the plus tires are just so incredibly smooth. I did upgrade to the dual position Rock Shox Talis, and that made the bike for me. Great review, and man do I need to go to Salida and ride, that trail looks incredibly fun.

[@The_Sampler]

Oh dude, you would freaking love it in Salida, there are trails for dayssssss

[@trialfahrer1]

Hell yeah dude. Thanks for the vid. Been going back in forth between the stumpjumper and the enduro. With my background in trials and local trails I think I will have a lot of fun with the stumpy. Also I want to get out on the trails as quick as possible with a complete build. With the enduro I would want to create a custom build but that's for another time.

[@BlindstuffMTB]

Great video and comparison! They're so close that I feel it would be more of a personal feel kinda thing, some people will probably be faster on one or the other depending on what kind of riding they favor. The stumpy strava link isn't working btw.

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks dude! I had it private for some reason... all good now!

[@testalino]

Hey Alex. Great Video, I really liked the comparison aspect. Please do more of these. One thing I want to note: It is pretty difficult to compare Strava times. Without heart rate it is pretty tough to compare uphill times, because sometimes you just don't push as hard and even 5 bps make a difference on a 20min uphill ride. Also sometimes you just have a better day, better legs, weather is different and stuff like that. I'm just saying that because it seemed like you judged the bike a bit by the times (like the tires that you think slowed you down in the uphill section which I can't really believe). Other than that I think it was a great comparison, I also liked the strava aspect, just not the conclusion :). Btw sick time on the DH - 4/564 is not bad at all.

[@MrCaiofern]

there is one thing: you are more used riding your Enduro... so you should get used to the stumpy fatty , ride it more times and then post the results again to check the diference. And please, do it making more vids like this one, it was great, wish I can one day ride this trail.

[@The_Sampler]

You are totally right, there was no way to do a 100% accurate comparison as I have countless hours on my Enduro and this was my first ride on the Stumpy, but the commentary during the ride I think was still worth while as I can immediately tell the difference in ride feel.

[@MrCaiofern]

lol, Your vid is a blast and I do consider what you said.... for three months I have passed in front of the store and watched both bikes and have had this issue about what should I get. Dude ,I am holding the money in my hand but can't decide. Actually, the stumpy I am thinking about is the STUMPJUMPER FSR COMP 29. I am considering a Trek Fuel EX 7 29 too. It took me years to save this amount of money and I don't want to make the wrong decision. Thanks. Cheers!!!

[@mtbboy1993]

Test out the fuel ex before buying, I don't know about the 2016-2017 models, but 2014-2015 are too flexible, the frame touches the tyre when riding berms or lading jumps badly. but with the stock bontrager duster wheels it was worse because the wheels were too flexible,nipples were junk. I am 75kg with all gear on here is a review of my fuel ex 7 29e. wp.me/p60aTF-aK But those newer bikes got boost hub spacing, which mine does not have, the boost spacing allow bike makers to make stiffer frames, but I don't know how stiff the new trek bikes are. you should really test the bike out in the woods,and do some flex tests, with all your gear on, to test if it its too flexy or not. watch out for the cheaper trek models, some of them got awful components, you can read more about this in my review. I have not tested the newer or high end bikes, but one thing is for sure I will build my own bikes from now on. I have never tried any specialized bikes, so I can't comment on them.

[@MrCaiofern]

wow, that link is very helpful, thank you for the advise , I will certainly consider that. For coincidence I am 75kg with all gear too. Here where I live there isn't a way to do a test drive on the bikes so I must rely on people's experience and opinions.

[@mtbboy1993]

just few store demo bikes in Norway,and some demo day at bikeparks, at trysil bikepark brands like canyon come, but thats once a year but so to really test out those bikes i have to travel faraway, and plan long ahead,and still note be able to test them all. but there is no place where you can test many bikes at the same week. so far i found a store demoing YT,one that demo Santa Cruz, one that demo trek. there aren't to many stores that have huge stock like you see in those us stores. but getting rental bikes from bike parks is not that great, they usually got only lowest base model.

[@billclark1767]

Killer video, man. Subscribed. I've been on Enduro's since the year 2000. I switched over to the Stumpy 6Fattie in 2016. Just an incredible bike. I can't help but wonder if you had more time on the Stumpy if you'd close the gap on some of the Enduro times. I think they do ride a bit different. The 6Fattie you do have to turn the bars more and lean it over more... But this is THE best comparison I've seen to date. Another thing I've noticed which isn't reflected in times is my stumpy is much more nimble in tight switchbacks. Maybe it's just me though. I enjoyed your enthusiasm as much as the awesome video and enviable bike handling skills. Keep 'em coming...

[@jabrobbins]

Fun comparison. Did Brian keep up on the Pivot with less travel and regular 29er tires? I've heard great things about the Pivot 429. For some of us XC geeks the Enduro and Stumpy are a little overkill on less technical trails.

[@The_Sampler]

JoJo he flew on that thing!! Right behind me the whole way

[@nobomoto5638]

Love this video! Watched it a few times but forgot...To SMEASH that thumbs up! I really enjoy your comparisons and commentary. Really enjoyed the more recent Yeti comparisons too! Please consider including more "new bike review" content in the future. You've said that you're not one to obsess over bike tech, But I think your fan base would love it if you did some more casual ride/reviews! Just my .02 while I contemplate new squish! -Big fan from Boulder, maybe i'll catch you at Valmont some day

[@Andrew-gr2ex]

Just got my first mtb bike. Specialized Fuse

[@DavidGamero]

Mountain bike bike, you still got the fuse If so hows it running

[@tristandubreil9470]

This was the video I was looking for I'm buying the 6fattie in 6 days definitely the video I needed to see

[@brandonwilcox2886]

Dude thank you for doing this video! I'm hoping to buy a new bike in the next few months and I was considering the Enduro but was afraid it would be overkill for stuff I'll be riding between Columbia, SC and Pisgah, NC. After watching your video I think the shorter travel may be best for me.

[@The_Sampler]

+Brandon Wilcox you are exactly the person I made this for, I was in your position not long ago, and it's such a tough call, but I think your making the right one. The shorter travel will still be able to handle Pisgah no problem

[@themonkeydoo3]

I got a 2016 stumpjumper comp on clearance from my local bike shop, I love mine!

[@Friskee62]

First time seeing this vid. Very amusing with you and Brian, yippin' and hootin' it up on the trails. Always informative and entertaining...

[@nikhilparker5906]

Just got my stumpjumper today, so exited!

[@The_Sampler]

woohooooo NBD is so exciting!!

[@mainetroutwhisperer]

I have a stumpy fattie and there is a difference when you toss on some 2.8s and make them tubless vs the 3.0. Climbs way better. Makes it a little more nimble.

[@markkligerman6861]

Akexander I dig how you can review while riding. I also like picking apart the ride on Strava. What you did here is just what I've been doing. I've been demoing different bikes while trying to figure out what to buy. On my local trail I set a couple of PR on a 2016 Pivot Mach 429 Trail while hating the bike. Go figure that one out. Then I demoed an Epic and loved it while getting 7 PR. I guess the take away is pick the bike that is best suited for your trail system AND pick the bike you enjoy best.

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Mark, I totally agree!

[@brettcolliton3918]

That trail looks so fun!

[@bullseye0112]

It's not geeky to know geometry, at least how it functions for the type of riding you are doing. I've learned the basics of geometry and ridden bikes with almost exactly the same Geometry, but felt totally different. It's just a good starting place to guide us towards the type of riding. Stem length and bar width have definitely made the difference for me as far as a comfortable and stable cockpit. I learned really quickly that I was going to have a hard time keeping up with my friends going downhill on a 68' head angle OTB haha.

[@darrensmith9182]

that was sick man well done i have a stumpy and the thing flys.put a 50mm stem on it 780mm bars 30mm rise .2.3 wide tyres and hang on.cheers

[@jimjigga]

Hello Alex, I heard you say at the end that you would go with the stump jumper now that the enduro elite is up to 170mm travel? Is that too much travel for your liking? I have a cannondale trigger and the rear shock is the fox dyad rt2 dual shock with climb mode at 80mm and open flow at 140mm for downhill. I happen to love it and debating if more travel would be even better. Are you familiar? Lastly, I've been following you guys and enjoying the redemption videos as well as the others, I've followed your videos with the shoulder rehab. Now imagine if your shoulder was your neck. That's what happened to me, fractured my facet joint C6 in 2 spots 3 years ago. No lingering effects Thank God. So I know what you kind of went through. Am I crazy to keep on riding? anyway if you guys come back up to Long Island or the surroundings, give a shout and tell us what's good ! peace brother

[@14manny24show]

Nice job putting this vid together! Which one would you say you were having more FUN on? I just got a carbon 6Fattie a couple months ago after being on a alum 26" hardtail since 2005. I'm wondering how much better the Ohlins setup is than the Rock Shox or Fox versions. After several rides I wanted some easier rolling tires so I put on Schwalbe 2.8 Rocket Ron lites, and it's an improvement. Saved ~ 3/4 lb per tire! One thing I noticed right away was the top gear on the 6Fattie is not very fast, maybe 23, 24 mph at most.

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks dude! I honestly don't know the answer to that... they were both just so damn good!!

[@panithoward5518]

Bought this bike (well not the Sworks version)!!! Thanks for the review. I'm upgrading from my 2009 fsr stumpjumper so it was nice to have a direct comparison to my old bike. Thanks for all the great videos! Really love your content keep inspiring!

[@florinprecup2909]

how is the bike after 3 years , which stumpy did u bought what year ?

[@panithoward5518]

@@florinprecup2909 I picked up the 2017 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Carbon 6Fattie I love it!!!! Has been great for me and the geometry was perfect

[@florinprecup2909]

@@panithoward5518 i want to buy the exact same one except the 27.5 / 2.3 found it good condition for 1500 euro . I'm not yet very sure because it s an outdated geometry they say

[@panithoward5518]

@@florinprecup2909 I honestly don't think anything's really outdated just check to see if the components are in decent shape. I tried to upload the link to the bike schematics. I think the only hard thing to find is the center shock as the geometry is a little bit unique for this bike. But I've had no issues with my bike and they also offer rebuild kits. You should be just fine. The main thing is get something that you like and will ride

[@florinprecup2909]

@@panithoward5518 thanks for the advices , i like the bike how it looks , a tiny bit tall but it s a nice design and color ( blue ) hope it will ride well on flat , climbs and descents and on long rides

[@Thumpermad]

Great review man I have the 2015 29er stumpjumper and Enduro Elite 650b, I find the Stumpy a little different to loft the front wheel due to the ergos and the Enduro is a whole different animal the stem lengths on the Enduro change it significantly I actually prefer the longer cockpit with the 45mm stem on both. Great review thanks for sharing

[@onilovni1234]

I have a Specialized Epic, it's an XC war machine so every climb is a joke, but I'm starting to hate the bumpy feel when I try to have fun in the descents, plus the head angle is close to 90 degrees (71 degrees in fact). Would there be a big difference between a Camber and a Stumpjumper. I mean, can the geometry of the camber make it fun on the descents, or do I need the longer travel of the Stump to have more fun. I wish I could just try those bikes like you did, sadly it's winter in Canada...

[@mikem8083]

First off, thanks for all the videos Alex. Great stuff. Onto the "strava" comparison of the two bikes. I agree as well as disagree on some of the things that came up through this video. First off, I agree that both bikes are awesome. To be quite honest, It's very difficult to find a "crappy" bike these days (assuming you're picking up a known brand with at least mid level components ... you know where I'm getting at). I also agree that stumpy 6fattie is going to be slower on the climbs in certain sections. Specifically, smooth sections that don't require the extra tires for grip/traction. That said, I think the 6fattie tires would actually give you an edge over loose terrain climbs and cut your time. On the DH side, I actually think your enduro will be faster due to the 29'er wheels you have on there. Specially through the smooth sections that flow really nicely. The 6fattie will help you out on the loose rocky sections. It's amazing how much of a confidence booster it is through loose rock gardens. You almost feel invincible ... lol. I think to get an accurate comparison, you would need to get similar setup bikes, same tire size and preferably, same run on the same day (back to back with maybe an hour break between ... and stick to at most a 30-45min climb and 20-30min descend so you don't gas out for the next run). Then repeat the same run the next days but switch the bikes order. Average the time and that should give you a good idea what to expect. I know ... no one in their right mind should go through such an ordeal. But there is a reason why I'm mentioning this ... READ on! :) Best way to compare a bike is get out and ride it in a familiar trail and see for yourself. I have ridden soooooo many different bikes and tried to compare geometry, time, etc. and finally came down to the following .... What bike feels best and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling when you walk by it every time you walk in and out of your garage? That's the bike you purchase .. Period! :) Thoughts? and be nice. Don't be an A-hole with your comments :P Once again, thanks in advance Alex. Your video's are awesome! even this strava comparison ;) .... Side note: How is the shoulder? I watched Seth putting your shoulder back into its' space a few times. Your face reaction!!!! Freaking AWESOME! lol

[@RyanMarcyesOutdoors]

Awesome stuff!!! Hope to see ya on the bike again soon.

[@evanc985]

the 2016 stumpjumper is much better, it has fox 34 float elite front and rear. It's the most crazy suspension ever! It feels like your floating on a cloud

[@rollinface87]

One thing I haven't seen on youtube yet is a legit review of the 2017 S works Stumpy 650b. Not sure why there hasn't yet, but this was the ONLY video that I could compare or review. thanks!

[@The_Sampler]

that is indeed strange as it's a pretty popular bike. Glad I could help though! The bike was quite rad

[@S_man89]

awesome video man. I'm really thinking about getting this bike. one due to the fact I'm a bigger guy. the weather in western ny can change from dry to really wet. how did it feel in the climbs, and what did feel like on the flats. thanks Alex.

[@The_Sampler]

+Seth no a little sluggish on flat ground but great on the climb

[@mtbboy1993]

That's the tyres definitely.

[@S_man89]

Yeah I'm thinking that when I do get around to getting a new bike I'm more than likely going to get the stumpjumper. I like it's over look and handling from all the videos I've watched. I'll check one if my local dealers and see if they have one I can test out. Thanks

[@efrenilustrisimo6908]

Nice video! Is that a go pro? What setting are you filming at? just curious!

[@jackfederski7646]

off-topic, but how do you compare your original specialized stumpy to the newer bikes? I have a 2011 FSR stumpy 26". I am not going to race anyone, and my bike is in great condition because I couldn't ride for several years. Bike is old, but not used very much. I am older and not very good, so I just want a really safe trail bike. I am very slow, so I think all of the bikes are way above my level.

[@Mr_RichardH]

All bike reviews should be done this way... do you think the Plus tyres contributed to that 'not-as-nimble-compared-to-your-Enduro' feel?

[@The_Sampler]

Yea, i definitely do. They were nimble, but not quite as "fun" is the best way I can say it. Does that make sense? But I definitely appreciated them in the rocks, so two edges of the same blade

[@ridelove]

I met Brent at Montrose bikes in California when I lived there (before 2015- my white Blur LT) I bet he prefers Colorado!

[@TheDan0311]

great vid I'm planning on buying a new bike soon narrowed it down to a kona honzo just can't make up my mind on the plus size or not. I'm currently on a 2016 camber comp but wanting a hard tail to rip on.I live out side of Chattanooga

[@The_Sampler]

Have you ridden a plus bike yet?

[@TheDan0311]

Yes a specialized fuse with 3.0 tires and tubes but only for a few minutes I rode a honzo with regular size tires and really liked it tough hopefully I can demo the big honzo.

[@ericramin1576]

Nerd question for you Alex: were those 2.8 or 3.0 tires? I'm finding 2.8's to feel nimble and fun.

[@JesusAguilar-yr4wp]

Hey man, since youve worked in a bike shop before, would you make some maintenance/repair videos?

[@The_Sampler]

I may do some of those for the time while I'm off the bike. Anything in particular you'd wanna see?

[@brandonreeves7920]

personally i want to know everything you know about bars, stems, spacers, grips, shifters, and dropper seats

[@SalvadorFrieri]

Great review, Alex! It would be great if you could continue the same comparison analysis with other bikes!

[@The_Sampler]

+Salvador Frieri I don't have access to bike demos very often, but would consider this format for future ones

[@just.some.dud3]

Love your vids man, great energy, always make me wanna ride. :)

[@mtbyumyum]

This has been my fav vid to date! Nice work hommie ;)

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks yumyum!! It was super fun to make as well, which I think goes hand in hand as it always shows through. Congrats on that 2K dude!

[@trevertify]

Did I hear you say the friend behind you had a pivot 429? Kinda makes me think why get all that travel, when a 4.5" was hanging with you, and only seconds slower than your enduro time. Im interested in a new bike, this vid kinda steered me back to short 29er direction.

[@christopherchilds7234]

The first 30 seconds says it all lol. My sworks stumpy will be in at the end of this month, so pumped!!

[@The_Sampler]

Holy cow I'm jelly. That bike is super dope!

[@havefunandbikestuffOver40]

you got a new subscriber right here! thumbs up for commentary during the ride. those are both nice mtb bikes. I primarily ride road and tt. but I enjoy seeing the trails from a spectator standpoint. just started vlogging my rides here in Hawaii. Happy trails brah. regards- Bernard

[@The_Sampler]

Hey dude! Thank you so much, and welcome to the channel!!! Stoked to have you on board. Cheers!

[@pandevant]

Yup, I think this is your niche. I think your reviews are more informative and enjoyable than the more established mags. I'm trying to choose between the Bronson and the '17 Enduro. Would be interested in your take on the new Enduro with the 2.6 tires. I demoed one during Crankworx and was intrigued.

[@The_Sampler]

+pandevant hell yea man, thank you! Careful with that new enduro, they increased the travel again, so it'll be quite different from the Bronson

[@pandevant]

I'm hoping for an all around bike. I want something I can do Top of the World with but still be able to manage Lost Lake without too much hassle. I've demoed both. They actually felt similar to me. I had broken ribs when riding the Enduro so didn't take it into the park.

[@pandevant]

I've also ridden the new standard Stumpy. Way to sketchy with the head angle.

[@FreeworldOL]

interesting video, unless you have one bike for trails and dh i dont see the need for more than 150 travel on a trail bike. have great fun on mine and have never thought i needed an extra 10-20 mm

[@bbarker5766]

I really like your reviews man! BTW I noticed that there was some differences in the elevation and length on the Strava do you have any idea to why. Maybe a section was changed or ???

[@John_D2]

2017 enduro went back to a threaded BB. I wish they would bring it back for the stumpy also.

[@The_Sampler]

I did see that, which is awesome, but not sure how I feel about the 170mm travel Lyrik up front

[@mtbboy1993]

awesome video as always.the stump jumper got 27,5+ so the wheels are 27.5 but that means with the tyre its actually a 29er. so the fattie should be bit faster straights and technical stuff, and on climbs and cesents,the 26&27,5 will accelerate faster,but of course weight and how much energy the rider got when testing them. yea the plus tyres will have a effect at the steering,so will get slower steering,but will of course gain alot of grip, but if you go too low on the pressure the bike might steer on its own, I tried a kid's fatbike and I am a 1,80 guy, with low psi,it was almost rideable. the only thing I trust is the time. the rest of the stats can be inaccurate,so the how fast you ridden it can't be trusted 100%. one thing I hate about using a gps based app like Strava, is that its very inaccurate, +- 10km/H the distance can be diffeerent,speed can be different,but I got really bad gps signal i think. differences, and very inaccurate mapping , I have had it good,it only looked bit similar to the actual trail by few meters inaccuracy, but only few times. but this might work better on you local trails. it almost never works properly in my area properly. but I see that you line shows quite accurate.

[@The_Sampler]

I agree, gotta take the stats with a grain of salt, as they can absolutely be off

[@bnet7608]

The ultimate test s-works 29er hardtail against the Enduro with long up hill short downhill will it make up for it going up

[@bullseye0112]

Thanks for the video Alex! I don't think the comparison between a "Stumpy" and enduro is really a comparison of those 2 bikes when you have plus size tires on one. I'm curious to see the same ride with a 27.5 Stumpy. I was trying to figure out the same thing as far as 150mm vs 160mm+ travel. I also went with the Enduro. I really like riding in the Plus Tires because they are so plush with climbing and stuff but I haven't really got a chance to go downhill yet. to me this video was more about showing the plus and minuses of a plus Tire. I really enjoyed that part. it definitely shows that it makes the ride smoother although a little slower and a little stiffer at times

[@The_Sampler]

+Bullseye Fowl thanks dude! Yea, it's not a direct comparison, BUT it was still super fun and insightful for me, and hopefully you as well!

[@bullseye0112]

The Singletrack Sampler of course, definitely insightful, in fact if I was specialized, I would hire you to attract every day buyers

[@Thumpermad]

bonus video boys I have a 2015 stumpjumper carbon comp 29er and a 27.5 Enduro elite they both have their advantages I like the chainstay length on the Enduro and the lesser rake of the Stumpy the Enduro is my weapon of choice though the suspension leaves the Stumpy for dead thanks for sharing it's helped clear a few things up... been dreaming about some 26+ rims and tyres on the the 29er but cost and availability prohibitive 😕

[@jvlienj]

the new stoppie is just insane want to buy it why 29er wheels to begin (got a 29er enduro right now )

[@nickrogers6441]

Great video! Again. Too bad you couldn't of compared bikes with the same size tires. Either way great video. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on the Norco carbon sight. It's a 140mm travel bike but I put a 160mm fork on mine and I find it great but I haven't ridden many to compare it to.

[@The_Sampler]

Just working with what I have access to, ya know? I sure would love to try the Norco, but unfortunately they don't carry those at this shop

[@nickrogers6441]

Yeah I hear ya, you can only ride what's available.

[@claytonfischvogt1676]

This channel is the best #keep calm and ride on

[@MrJay7777]

I'd love to try my Lynskey Ti 29- 140 full susp there

[@Longevityfit]

I'm in the flatter Midwest, got a chance for a deal on a ''18 Enduro comp 29. I'm a novice but would 160/160 be too much for my local trails? (I don't know if I've even seen "rough" trails...) Would it be ok to ride in the "pedal" mode of the monarchrc3? Of I needed to shorten travel? Thanks for your opinion!

[@BrianSchade2016]

I have a Specialized Fuse Expert 6Fattie. It's a hardtail, and I absolutely love it.

[@jackmccafferty3]

thanks Alex great video myself I have an EVO Enduro and I love it. thanks for another good video I needed to watch this

[@tomprevost2477]

Great comparison Alex. Not sure I've seen a better one. Love the enthusiasm, stay safe. T

[@The_Sampler]

Wow, thank you Tom!

[@HyLifeSociety]

I love them all, I want a different bike for every day of the week, some bikes where built to shred certain trail types.

[@stephenwhitington4525]

I really enjoyed the video, it's the best independent test on tire size I've seen,but I am still riding the old 26" wheels ! So would love to see you blast this segment on an old enduro 26" to see how you feel the wheel size has impacted you riding .

[@The_Sampler]

+Stephen Whitington thanks Stephan! It wasn't more than 2 years ago that I was on my 26er as well my friend ;)

[@samuelzurcher9949]

Fully and exactly what I was loooking for! Thank you for this awesome review. What do you think in uphill comparison, was it "harder" on the Enduro to uphill or did you not feel any difference? Would you Cross the Alps with your Enduro? Thanks!

[@mikebussart2575]

Good look at 2 really good bikes, cant go wrong with either. Killing it on the trail by the way.

[@The_Sampler]

Brraaaaaaappppppp

[@mattmitchell5320]

awesome video. 2 bikes I'm both considering. Not sure which route I want to go.

[@The_Sampler]

Let me know when you choose dude! I don't think you can go wrong though

[@mattmitchell5320]

The Singletrack Sampler thanks again to this video. Just layed down my deposit for the '17 Stumpy Comp 6Fattie in dbl xtra huge size. Now I need riding season to start...sigh...

[@andrewbartlett3100]

How did you find the Ohlins Suspension on the climb? Did the climb switch make a difference? Im working with Absolute Bikes on a new 2018 Stumpjumper 29er. On test rides, I have been unable to get the climb switch to actually lockout.

[@hamderole]

That's an insane selection of rental bikes! Cool trail! When's the next flight for the US? :)

[@DamnTrue]

The enduro is just a bit too much bike for me. My preference is for the Stumpy....I am struggling though with the decision between 29er and 650b. They definitely both have their pluses and minuses. What to do? What to do?

[@The_Sampler]

I think I agree with you, the SJ is the better all arounder

[@DamnTrue]

The enduro is astonishingly capable and unquestionably a great bike. But for probably 80% of the places I ride it's overkill.

[@angelvicente9224]

Hey Alex I'm looking for a new pair of mtb gloves. Can you suggest any to me? What brand do you prefer?

[@spencerbrehm1982]

These trails look absolutely amazing. Where are they located?

[@The_Sampler]

Salida, Colorado!

[@brad8961]

Sick video as always;) one question - Gopro hero session with gimbal or GoPro session 5 with no gimbal?:)

[@The_Sampler]

I've only seen Seth and used his Hero Session, but from that it looked freaking amazing. I'd probably go with that plus the gimbal, especially because the gimbal is SO IMPORTANT in making the footage great.

[@brad8961]

The Singletrack Sampler Thanks, will do that. I thought the gimbal might be better for those DH days where it gets a bit gnar;)

[@KD-mm3li]

Im debating the 2016 elite over a stump jumper. The elites components seem a little better for the price.

[@The_Sampler]

Yea dude, I have the elite level Enduro. I think that they always have a pretty good bump in components for the Elite bikes that's pretty worth it

[@mtbelpino3855]

Hey bro nice videos I need your help, I’m between the Enduro Comp or the new Stumjumper 2019 alloy I saw you vid and the end more confused I’m not to more jump but I want to learn. I now stumpy can handle but later which one. The enduro can climb I often more climbs but I like to ride hard thanks your videos ..!