2017 SPECIALIZED S-WORKS STUMPJUMPER FSR 6FATTIE MTB TEST RIDE | The Singletrack Sampler

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Stumpjumper or Enduro??
I've wondered since the day I bought my Enduro if I should've gone with the slightly smaller travel, slightly more well rounded stumpjumper. Today I'm here to answer that burning question in a Strava shootout between my current bike, the 2016 Enduro Elite, and this 2017 S-Works Stumpjumper Fattie.
Watch and find out what I thought about my first ride on the Stumpjumper and how I feel it compares my Enduro. In the end see how the two compared on the exact same ride when looking at Strava records. The results may surprise you!
-Alexander
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[@1000stevenbl]

First video on KZbin that I watched about your mountain bike journey... dude you have gone a long way in the past 2 years... friends, car, van, trips, redemption... yeah... you most definitely have had a epic journey!!! Keep sending it!!

[@jakonovski]

I really like the non-gearhead angle of your test rides. Makes for a refreshing change compared to the usual formula of focusing on the spec sheet. Keep up the good work!

[@The_Sampler]

+jakonovski thanks dude!! I like to ride for feel since that is what will translate to most viewers anyway!

[@SobanBhatti]

We have the Jeremy, James and Hammond trio in the car world and then we have Brian, Alex and Seth in the mountain biking world.

[@DavidGamero]

No that would be gmbn

[@marcwittkowski5146]

The energy you emit while riding is amazing. I cannot help but smile throughout the footage. Great video.

[@The_Sampler]

Wow dude, that's so awesome to hear that my vids make you smile. Powerful 💪

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

Great vid and review. Thanks for concentrating on the ride, how the bike felt, not the gear. For those interested, this Stumpy was Outside Magazine's 2017 bike of the year, after multiple rides over varying terrain.

[@zackarina0576]

I just started watching your Chanel for like 2 months and you are the best mtb Chanel out there in my opinion. Keep up the great work

[@The_Sampler]

Yeeewwwwww I love hearing that!! I'll keep creating videos, if you keep watching. Deal?

[@txstumpy5536]

Hey man, I was on the fence about bikes and lost in a sea of indecision, but the Stumpjumper fattier was sticking around the top of my list. Then I watched this video and, well, decision made. Just bought the 2018 Stumpjumper 6fattie. Thanks for the advice and all the great videos. Keep up the good work!

[@drumsxo]

Another epic video, my friend! :D I'm actually really glad that you made this video too, since the Stumpjumper FPS Comp 6Fattie might be my next bike! I've had my eye on it for a while, after having ridden my 29er all season, and then taken a ride on a friend's 650B+ setup. I'd be opting for the less expensive model just because it would take me a long time to save up for the super expensive model. But, I still think it would be a good choice, and a huge step up over my 29er Hardtail that I ride now.

[@The_Sampler]

+Patrick Williams dude that is SICK. I think it'll be a huge step up from a hard tail for sure. Think you'll have it for next season?

[@drumsxo]

Not a chance, unfortunately. Had Brian not been participating in the Chasing Epic ride in Utah next April, I'd be saving my money for the bike. But, since I am determined to attend that trip, the new bike has to wait. I've already given my deposit for the trip!

[@The_Sampler]

Holy shit Patrick THAT'S FREAKING AWESOME!! Dude I'm so friggin' jealous!

[@drumsxo]

Dude, it's gonna be such a good time! It'll be my first time far away from NY, my first real vacation, my first time on a Mountain Bike Trip, and my first time meeting KZbinrs! Hopefully you and maybe even Seth can make it out there along with Brian!

[@odogtriever]

Patrick Williams go for it! Got that exact bike last year. All smiles all the time! Not sure how everyone is not already on + size bikes!

[@olliechristopher467]

Holy shit! Talk about multitasking. I can only imagine how fast you would be flying down that trail if you were 100% focused and not describing the characteristics of the bike. I'm actually taking the dust off my old 90's Bianchi road bike and get back in the saddle. You have inspired me young man. Thank you!!

[@TheSoldkall]

Very Nice Alexander, pure happiness to see you doing the revue and trying to survive!

[@kevinsbott]

I have the S Works Enduro. (2016) . Total game changer for me. Does it all wonderfully and i am riding rocks etc that I never thought possible.

[@ilirmirzo5459]

Weird, when I went from stumpy 29 to stumpy 6fattie and I crushed literally all my usually segments and PR'd them across the board without having a solid feel for the new plus tires, the setup etc. Also I'm surprised you feel it's not as responsive to turning with the steeper head angle than the enduro. I think it's the tires, not the head angle. Plus tires are super finicky to PSI and suspension setup. I think with some more seat time and setup, you'd enjoy it more as I have. Keep up with the great vids man!

[@mtbboy1993]

good points. tyres can make a huge difference, I had bontrager se 4 team issue on my fuel ex 29er, then and maxxis high roller 2s on the other, the sea 4's had a knob pattern that made the steering a lot faster, but the tyre did not grip as well,it was not as sticky or as soft,and did had less open pattern on the side than high roller 2s, which resulted in me washing out on a fast corner, I run high rollers 2's on both bikes now. head angle will play have most effect on steering stability,more stable steering with slacker head angle,but fork offset bar wight stem length play a role in this too. a very steep head angle can of course effect how fast you are in rough terrain because it will give aggressive/fasts steering which can result in you steering when you did not want to steer,which makes you slower. but on these bikes it does not matter that much, if it was a xc bike with steep head angle and narrow bars it would,but as you get used to it it can be a lot easier, but it would still have a noticeable effect.

[@ilirmirzo5459]

I agree with you on that. In the vid tho, he states the enduro was more nimble in steering (I forgot exactly what he said but something along those lines) and he thinks it's because of the head angle. The enduro head angle is slacker, which does not make it more nimble in the steering department over the Stumpjumper which has a steeper head angle. So what he's feeling is the delay in steering From the plus size tires.

[@ilirmirzo5459]

Listen from 9:40. He said the enduro feels more nimble and he thinks it's due to the head angle. A steeper head angle (if chain stays are same length) will Make for a more flick able and responsive bike. Not trying to sounds like a know it all, just sharing all the things I have experienced by switching over to plus tires after years of riding and racing "regular" sized tires. There's a lot these tires do that makes the suspension feel off or the steering etc. Took me a solid month to really dial my plus bike down to understand the new tires since they also play a role in "tire suspension". Everyone said low psi and normal suspension settings. I found higher psi (20 psi range) with suspension setup for someone slightly lighter than myself but used bigger volume spacers to be key to get the most out of it

[@MTBdropIN]

Wow thats awesome valuable information, thank you very much for the insight!!

[@mtbboy1993]

Yea all true.

[@E2tge]

I made the change to 27.5 Plus from 29er! love it!

[@Johnroberts2013]

Hey Alex, Next year you should go to Copper Harbor, Michigan in the summer. It is a really cool place and really far way from any other civilization and is a small place with really good riding. They even have two downhill trails there! I definitely recommend it, even though I'm only 14 I've been to Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and California for mountain biking. Even with that I can honestly say Copper Harbor is the coolest place I have ever been to and some of the best riding. What really makes the place special is the atmosphere and the people there. Best place ever.

[@b.r.3232]

that was a complete blast!! I ride a Specialized Trail SX-III which is like the Stumpy, although mine is older, but faily modified/upgraded, which I can relate to some of your findings. FSR's are really nice bikes. Loved the video, was a complete blast. Makes me want to ride, but is winter, and have stored the bikes for the season. Thanks for a fun watch!!

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks for watching!! Stoked you enjoyed it :D

[@MaxWilliams]

I rode the stump jumper fsr at revolution bike fest and it's the best bike I have every ridden

[@camo2010]

Looks like you're having fun Alex. And that's what it's all about. Keep up the awesome videos.

[@The_Sampler]

AGREED 👍

[@mattschraidt4836]

Thanks Alex for answering me on last nights stream, you have helped me decide on which bike to get. I will be buying it in 4 days and will ride some trails at Mountain Creek for my upcoming birthday (October 3rd), thanks again man. Stoked about this new stumpjumper fattie !!!

[@The_Sampler]

+Matt Schraidt dude that is awesome!!! So stoked to hear that and couldn't think of a better way to spend a birthday!

[@notsponsored103]

one of your best! you're a great entertainer! Really good and relevant bike test/review, actually better than any other test/reviews I've seen. loved it!

[@The_Sampler]

Thank you so much!!!

[@joeldh7567]

I love this video man. I definitely think that the Enduro won because its a little more on the competition side. The Stumpjumper, fast and capable as it is, isn't built to race. The Enduro is, and that is why, despite being heavier, the Enduro won. Enduro forever man! I also have been curios about this issue, and I have this on my favs list now! Keep these quality videos coming!

[@The_Sampler]

Yo, thanks Joel! You keep watching, and I'll keep making them!

[@brandonburchett3292]

The commentary while you are riding is freakin awesome.

[@BenParman]

Awesome video. That whole trail network is so much fun.

[@trialfahrer1]

Hell yeah dude. Thanks for the vid. Been going back in forth between the stumpjumper and the enduro. With my background in trials and local trails I think I will have a lot of fun with the stumpy. Also I want to get out on the trails as quick as possible with a complete build. With the enduro I would want to create a custom build but that's for another time.

[@Reddingadventurehub]

I did the same debate before opting for the Stumpjumper 6Fatty. In the end it came down to where I ride having lots of technical riding and climbing, and the plus tires are just so incredibly smooth. I did upgrade to the dual position Rock Shox Talis, and that made the bike for me. Great review, and man do I need to go to Salida and ride, that trail looks incredibly fun.

[@The_Sampler]

Oh dude, you would freaking love it in Salida, there are trails for dayssssss

[@brettcolliton3918]

That trail looks so fun!

[@mtbyumyum]

This has been my fav vid to date! Nice work hommie ;)

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks yumyum!! It was super fun to make as well, which I think goes hand in hand as it always shows through. Congrats on that 2K dude!

[@georgeredbranch1186]

my first Specialized FSR was in 1994 l think. had a rear coil spring suspension that ran vertically from the rear triangle to the top tube/seat post the bike was chromoly front fork was a rockshox using rubber inserts.Was pretty heavy but fun to ride. l would love to feel how things have changed over the past 23 years. keep up the great videos.

[@tristandubreil9470]

This was the video I was looking for I'm buying the 6fattie in 6 days definitely the video I needed to see

[@rollinface87]

One thing I haven't seen on youtube yet is a legit review of the 2017 S works Stumpy 650b. Not sure why there hasn't yet, but this was the ONLY video that I could compare or review. thanks!

[@The_Sampler]

that is indeed strange as it's a pretty popular bike. Glad I could help though! The bike was quite rad

[@Friskee62]

First time seeing this vid. Very amusing with you and Brian, yippin' and hootin' it up on the trails. Always informative and entertaining...

[@nobomoto5638]

Love this video! Watched it a few times but forgot...To SMEASH that thumbs up! I really enjoy your comparisons and commentary. Really enjoyed the more recent Yeti comparisons too! Please consider including more "new bike review" content in the future. You've said that you're not one to obsess over bike tech, But I think your fan base would love it if you did some more casual ride/reviews! Just my .02 while I contemplate new squish! -Big fan from Boulder, maybe i'll catch you at Valmont some day

[@nikhilparker5906]

Just got my stumpjumper today, so exited!

[@The_Sampler]

woohooooo NBD is so exciting!!

[@Thumpermad]

Great review man I have the 2015 29er stumpjumper and Enduro Elite 650b, I find the Stumpy a little different to loft the front wheel due to the ergos and the Enduro is a whole different animal the stem lengths on the Enduro change it significantly I actually prefer the longer cockpit with the 45mm stem on both. Great review thanks for sharing

[@just.some.dud3]

Love your vids man, great energy, always make me wanna ride. :)

[@testalino]

Hey Alex. Great Video, I really liked the comparison aspect. Please do more of these. One thing I want to note: It is pretty difficult to compare Strava times. Without heart rate it is pretty tough to compare uphill times, because sometimes you just don't push as hard and even 5 bps make a difference on a 20min uphill ride. Also sometimes you just have a better day, better legs, weather is different and stuff like that. I'm just saying that because it seemed like you judged the bike a bit by the times (like the tires that you think slowed you down in the uphill section which I can't really believe). Other than that I think it was a great comparison, I also liked the strava aspect, just not the conclusion :). Btw sick time on the DH - 4/564 is not bad at all.

[@panithoward5518]

Bought this bike (well not the Sworks version)!!! Thanks for the review. I'm upgrading from my 2009 fsr stumpjumper so it was nice to have a direct comparison to my old bike. Thanks for all the great videos! Really love your content keep inspiring!

[@florinprecup2909]

how is the bike after 3 years , which stumpy did u bought what year ?

[@panithoward5518]

@@florinprecup2909 I picked up the 2017 Stumpjumper FSR Comp Carbon 6Fattie I love it!!!! Has been great for me and the geometry was perfect

[@florinprecup2909]

@@panithoward5518 i want to buy the exact same one except the 27.5 / 2.3 found it good condition for 1500 euro . I'm not yet very sure because it s an outdated geometry they say

[@panithoward5518]

@@florinprecup2909 I honestly don't think anything's really outdated just check to see if the components are in decent shape. I tried to upload the link to the bike schematics. I think the only hard thing to find is the center shock as the geometry is a little bit unique for this bike. But I've had no issues with my bike and they also offer rebuild kits. You should be just fine. The main thing is get something that you like and will ride

[@florinprecup2909]

@@panithoward5518 thanks for the advices , i like the bike how it looks , a tiny bit tall but it s a nice design and color ( blue ) hope it will ride well on flat , climbs and descents and on long rides

[@MrCaiofern]

there is one thing: you are more used riding your Enduro... so you should get used to the stumpy fatty , ride it more times and then post the results again to check the diference. And please, do it making more vids like this one, it was great, wish I can one day ride this trail.

[@The_Sampler]

You are totally right, there was no way to do a 100% accurate comparison as I have countless hours on my Enduro and this was my first ride on the Stumpy, but the commentary during the ride I think was still worth while as I can immediately tell the difference in ride feel.

[@MrCaiofern]

lol, Your vid is a blast and I do consider what you said.... for three months I have passed in front of the store and watched both bikes and have had this issue about what should I get. Dude ,I am holding the money in my hand but can't decide. Actually, the stumpy I am thinking about is the STUMPJUMPER FSR COMP 29. I am considering a Trek Fuel EX 7 29 too. It took me years to save this amount of money and I don't want to make the wrong decision. Thanks. Cheers!!!

[@mtbboy1993]

Test out the fuel ex before buying, I don't know about the 2016-2017 models, but 2014-2015 are too flexible, the frame touches the tyre when riding berms or lading jumps badly. but with the stock bontrager duster wheels it was worse because the wheels were too flexible,nipples were junk. I am 75kg with all gear on here is a review of my fuel ex 7 29e. wp.me/p60aTF-aK But those newer bikes got boost hub spacing, which mine does not have, the boost spacing allow bike makers to make stiffer frames, but I don't know how stiff the new trek bikes are. you should really test the bike out in the woods,and do some flex tests, with all your gear on, to test if it its too flexy or not. watch out for the cheaper trek models, some of them got awful components, you can read more about this in my review. I have not tested the newer or high end bikes, but one thing is for sure I will build my own bikes from now on. I have never tried any specialized bikes, so I can't comment on them.

[@MrCaiofern]

wow, that link is very helpful, thank you for the advise , I will certainly consider that. For coincidence I am 75kg with all gear too. Here where I live there isn't a way to do a test drive on the bikes so I must rely on people's experience and opinions.

[@mtbboy1993]

just few store demo bikes in Norway,and some demo day at bikeparks, at trysil bikepark brands like canyon come, but thats once a year but so to really test out those bikes i have to travel faraway, and plan long ahead,and still note be able to test them all. but there is no place where you can test many bikes at the same week. so far i found a store demoing YT,one that demo Santa Cruz, one that demo trek. there aren't to many stores that have huge stock like you see in those us stores. but getting rental bikes from bike parks is not that great, they usually got only lowest base model.

[@mainetroutwhisperer]

I have a stumpy fattie and there is a difference when you toss on some 2.8s and make them tubless vs the 3.0. Climbs way better. Makes it a little more nimble.

[@dirragon1]

Cool little comparison. I would say more comp would be needed to be able to get a clearer picture, simply because there are so many factors that affect speed on a ride on different days. But I like this basic comparison, and it makes sense to me that the Enduro would wallop the chunk just a little better. However I do have to say that plus tires can make a pretty huge difference on downhills. I've been riding a Pivot Mach 429c for a couple of years now, and just got a Trek Stache 9.6 29+, and even though the Stache is a hardtail, it definitely feels more confident on downhill rips than the Pivot. This is down to lots of factors that combine to give it that confidence of course (Stache is a bit slacker, has a dropper post, and has a burlier fork), but the 29+ tires have so much grip, and feel so stable that it really makes a huge, huge difference. Of course it's a little easier to compare a full suss to another full suss than it is a full suss to a hardtail, and I'll have to get quite a few rides under my belt with the Stache before I can genuinely go for a realistic Strava segment comparison. Anyway, I digress. Thanks for the vid man, keep 'em comin'! Love it!

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Zach! It's not perfect for sure, but it sure was fun!

[@billclark1767]

Killer video, man. Subscribed. I've been on Enduro's since the year 2000. I switched over to the Stumpy 6Fattie in 2016. Just an incredible bike. I can't help but wonder if you had more time on the Stumpy if you'd close the gap on some of the Enduro times. I think they do ride a bit different. The 6Fattie you do have to turn the bars more and lean it over more... But this is THE best comparison I've seen to date. Another thing I've noticed which isn't reflected in times is my stumpy is much more nimble in tight switchbacks. Maybe it's just me though. I enjoyed your enthusiasm as much as the awesome video and enviable bike handling skills. Keep 'em coming...

[@jaimejimenez4794]

Thanks for the comparison! I'm currently looking at purchasing either a stumpjumper 29er or Enduro 29.

[@boomhauer4168]

That trail looks AMAZE.

[@darrensmith9182]

that was sick man well done i have a stumpy and the thing flys.put a 50mm stem on it 780mm bars 30mm rise .2.3 wide tyres and hang on.cheers

[@bullseye0112]

It's not geeky to know geometry, at least how it functions for the type of riding you are doing. I've learned the basics of geometry and ridden bikes with almost exactly the same Geometry, but felt totally different. It's just a good starting place to guide us towards the type of riding. Stem length and bar width have definitely made the difference for me as far as a comfortable and stable cockpit. I learned really quickly that I was going to have a hard time keeping up with my friends going downhill on a 68' head angle OTB haha.

[@vsense]

We enjoy because you enjoy ;-)

[@The_Sampler]

Don't forget to smash that thumbs up button if you enjoyed!!! :D

[@khyrenhoskovec2584]

The Singletrack Sampler That button is dead because of how much I smashed it. Someone's into fat tires 😁

[@The_Sampler]

hahaha 👍👍👍👍

[@MTBdropIN]

LIKED baby!!!! Great Vid!

[@bubba41123]

I enjoy your videos, and your good vibes! Keep up the hard work!

[@The_Sampler]

+bubba41123 Thanks dude!! :D

[@blueage1560]

I also demoed an S-Works 6Fattie Stumpy, it was such a fun bike until I broke it... Definitely keen to get a plus bike.

[@brandonwilcox2886]

Dude thank you for doing this video! I'm hoping to buy a new bike in the next few months and I was considering the Enduro but was afraid it would be overkill for stuff I'll be riding between Columbia, SC and Pisgah, NC. After watching your video I think the shorter travel may be best for me.

[@The_Sampler]

+Brandon Wilcox you are exactly the person I made this for, I was in your position not long ago, and it's such a tough call, but I think your making the right one. The shorter travel will still be able to handle Pisgah no problem

[@mikem8083]

First off, thanks for all the videos Alex. Great stuff. Onto the "strava" comparison of the two bikes. I agree as well as disagree on some of the things that came up through this video. First off, I agree that both bikes are awesome. To be quite honest, It's very difficult to find a "crappy" bike these days (assuming you're picking up a known brand with at least mid level components ... you know where I'm getting at). I also agree that stumpy 6fattie is going to be slower on the climbs in certain sections. Specifically, smooth sections that don't require the extra tires for grip/traction. That said, I think the 6fattie tires would actually give you an edge over loose terrain climbs and cut your time. On the DH side, I actually think your enduro will be faster due to the 29'er wheels you have on there. Specially through the smooth sections that flow really nicely. The 6fattie will help you out on the loose rocky sections. It's amazing how much of a confidence booster it is through loose rock gardens. You almost feel invincible ... lol. I think to get an accurate comparison, you would need to get similar setup bikes, same tire size and preferably, same run on the same day (back to back with maybe an hour break between ... and stick to at most a 30-45min climb and 20-30min descend so you don't gas out for the next run). Then repeat the same run the next days but switch the bikes order. Average the time and that should give you a good idea what to expect. I know ... no one in their right mind should go through such an ordeal. But there is a reason why I'm mentioning this ... READ on! :) Best way to compare a bike is get out and ride it in a familiar trail and see for yourself. I have ridden soooooo many different bikes and tried to compare geometry, time, etc. and finally came down to the following .... What bike feels best and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling when you walk by it every time you walk in and out of your garage? That's the bike you purchase .. Period! :) Thoughts? and be nice. Don't be an A-hole with your comments :P Once again, thanks in advance Alex. Your video's are awesome! even this strava comparison ;) .... Side note: How is the shoulder? I watched Seth putting your shoulder back into its' space a few times. Your face reaction!!!! Freaking AWESOME! lol

[@claytonfischvogt1676]

This channel is the best #keep calm and ride on

[@jackmccafferty3]

thanks Alex great video myself I have an EVO Enduro and I love it. thanks for another good video I needed to watch this

[@RyanMarcyesOutdoors]

Awesome stuff!!! Hope to see ya on the bike again soon.

[@Rambleon444]

Since we are comparing. Doesn't the S Works cost at least twice as much as your bike?

[@neilk22]

Carbon vs Alloy frames too, don’t recall a comment on weight difference. Also I’m sceptical about the ohlins kit on the Sworks, fox is impossible to beat.

[@themonkeydoo3]

I got a 2016 stumpjumper comp on clearance from my local bike shop, I love mine!

[@evanc985]

the 2016 stumpjumper is much better, it has fox 34 float elite front and rear. It's the most crazy suspension ever! It feels like your floating on a cloud

[@14manny24show]

Nice job putting this vid together! Which one would you say you were having more FUN on? I just got a carbon 6Fattie a couple months ago after being on a alum 26" hardtail since 2005. I'm wondering how much better the Ohlins setup is than the Rock Shox or Fox versions. After several rides I wanted some easier rolling tires so I put on Schwalbe 2.8 Rocket Ron lites, and it's an improvement. Saved ~ 3/4 lb per tire! One thing I noticed right away was the top gear on the 6Fattie is not very fast, maybe 23, 24 mph at most.

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks dude! I honestly don't know the answer to that... they were both just so damn good!!

[@MitchWarren44]

Nice job Alex !!! I went from Scott Genius carbon LT 26 to Enduro 29er dumped a 34 tooth on it ! It's so fast I only go out on the Scott when the Enduro is in the bike shop!

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Mitch! Ooooh I wanna ride a 29er Enduro. I've only been on the 27.5 thus far

[@MitchWarren44]

Alex the 29er is like your bike but on steroids!!!

[@tomprevost2477]

Great comparison Alex. Not sure I've seen a better one. Love the enthusiasm, stay safe. T

[@The_Sampler]

Wow, thank you Tom!

[@markkligerman6861]

Akexander I dig how you can review while riding. I also like picking apart the ride on Strava. What you did here is just what I've been doing. I've been demoing different bikes while trying to figure out what to buy. On my local trail I set a couple of PR on a 2016 Pivot Mach 429 Trail while hating the bike. Go figure that one out. Then I demoed an Epic and loved it while getting 7 PR. I guess the take away is pick the bike that is best suited for your trail system AND pick the bike you enjoy best.

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Mark, I totally agree!

[@mtbboy1993]

awesome video as always.the stump jumper got 27,5+ so the wheels are 27.5 but that means with the tyre its actually a 29er. so the fattie should be bit faster straights and technical stuff, and on climbs and cesents,the 26&27,5 will accelerate faster,but of course weight and how much energy the rider got when testing them. yea the plus tyres will have a effect at the steering,so will get slower steering,but will of course gain alot of grip, but if you go too low on the pressure the bike might steer on its own, I tried a kid's fatbike and I am a 1,80 guy, with low psi,it was almost rideable. the only thing I trust is the time. the rest of the stats can be inaccurate,so the how fast you ridden it can't be trusted 100%. one thing I hate about using a gps based app like Strava, is that its very inaccurate, +- 10km/H the distance can be diffeerent,speed can be different,but I got really bad gps signal i think. differences, and very inaccurate mapping , I have had it good,it only looked bit similar to the actual trail by few meters inaccuracy, but only few times. but this might work better on you local trails. it almost never works properly in my area properly. but I see that you line shows quite accurate.

[@The_Sampler]

I agree, gotta take the stats with a grain of salt, as they can absolutely be off

[@PossiblyMaybeNope]

Holy smokes those trails are beauty!

[@nhouston6179]

I'm going to go buy a stumpy now, minds decided, this helped a lot cheers

[@The_Sampler]

Heck yea dude!! I think you will enjoy very much

[@acsaiyanbalce4610]

Alex, you should test that bike where you jumped well with your Enduro! See if you can get even more air!!! WOoooooHooooo.... yeahhhhh!!! Love your enthusiasm... 👍👍

[@Thumpermad]

bonus video boys I have a 2015 stumpjumper carbon comp 29er and a 27.5 Enduro elite they both have their advantages I like the chainstay length on the Enduro and the lesser rake of the Stumpy the Enduro is my weapon of choice though the suspension leaves the Stumpy for dead thanks for sharing it's helped clear a few things up... been dreaming about some 26+ rims and tyres on the the 29er but cost and availability prohibitive 😕

[@phantomrider86]

Great comparison! I had a 2005 Enduro Expert back then and I now ride a 2016 Stumpy Carbon Expert 6fatties. I love the bike. it climbs like a goat on crack and I actually feel faster with the 27.5, 6fatties tires on the downhills. thanks for this test!

[@The_Sampler]

It sure is an extremely capable bike

[@christopherchilds7234]

The first 30 seconds says it all lol. My sworks stumpy will be in at the end of this month, so pumped!!

[@The_Sampler]

Holy cow I'm jelly. That bike is super dope!

[@bajaigo]

Brother, at 11:57 you said exactly what I was looking for - "We had a 10 mile climb up to the trail". That is now my main need ( Im now in my 60's, and damn, Im learning that you actually slow down on the uphills!- fuck ) I have a 10 mile - gravel road that goes from 2k to 4.7K in elevation. I just need the E for a half power assist. Once I tackle that hill I will turn the E-off, as then I jump one one of many single tracks and just fly home!! Its cake everyday! What would you estimate the range of a continuous uphill grade on a gravel road, and would that just fry the motor? Thanks? Great review.

[@mikebussart2575]

Good look at 2 really good bikes, cant go wrong with either. Killing it on the trail by the way.

[@The_Sampler]

Brraaaaaaappppppp

[@Apsycho2012]

I just love the fact that u talk while riding, haha... awesome vid!!

[@calembates7846]

awesome work and cool to watch you all the way from christchurch new zealand.

[@BrianSchade2016]

I have a Specialized Fuse Expert 6Fattie. It's a hardtail, and I absolutely love it.

[@Derkenblosh2]

oh, thought I would let ya know... my 2yo LOVES watching ya vids...

[@The_Sampler]

James that is so awesome man, love getting the groms into riding!

[@Derkenblosh2]

The Singletrack Sampler ... he's ripping it on his custom balance bike I made him. he'll be shredd'n in no time

[@efrenilustrisimo6908]

Nice video! Is that a go pro? What setting are you filming at? just curious!

[@Andrew-gr2ex]

Just got my first mtb bike. Specialized Fuse

[@DavidGamero]

Mountain bike bike, you still got the fuse If so hows it running

[@calebwithrow4954]

Hey my name is Caleb I am a beginner who just started. I live in Wisconsin. it has been really inspiring for you Seth an Brian for making videos I mean it's just super inspiring and I'm a beginner and I'm learning the stuff from your videos so I mean it's very helpful and well thanks Ps forward to Seth and Brian

[@havefunandbikestuffOver40]

you got a new subscriber right here! thumbs up for commentary during the ride. those are both nice mtb bikes. I primarily ride road and tt. but I enjoy seeing the trails from a spectator standpoint. just started vlogging my rides here in Hawaii. Happy trails brah. regards- Bernard

[@The_Sampler]

Hey dude! Thank you so much, and welcome to the channel!!! Stoked to have you on board. Cheers!

[@samuelzurcher9949]

Fully and exactly what I was loooking for! Thank you for this awesome review. What do you think in uphill comparison, was it "harder" on the Enduro to uphill or did you not feel any difference? Would you Cross the Alps with your Enduro? Thanks!

[@neilk22]

You rode that course on the enduro in July at 6pm, and the stumpy in November at 3pm. This comparison has so many variables, I’m not sure it’s very objective to compare bikes between seasons.

[@mtbboy1993]

you are good,great skills,you are a beast:-) the only way to compare bikes is to ride like a beast, like you do.

[@erosarias5995]

Spencer Han

[@metarmor6422]

This was helpful because basically all my family that mountain bikes uses specialized so, I kinda have to use them,

[@BlindstuffMTB]

Great video and comparison! They're so close that I feel it would be more of a personal feel kinda thing, some people will probably be faster on one or the other depending on what kind of riding they favor. The stumpy strava link isn't working btw.

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks dude! I had it private for some reason... all good now!

[@bbarker5766]

I really like your reviews man! BTW I noticed that there was some differences in the elevation and length on the Strava do you have any idea to why. Maybe a section was changed or ???

[@DanielGomez-bs2vs]

I dig your enthusiasm,I haven't gone mountain biking in ten years and seeing your review was interesting. P.S. I'm purchasing a 2016 stumper this month so I'm looking forward to mtb'g. P.S.S how's the shoulder

[@The_Sampler]

+Daniel Gomez that's freaking awesome dude!!! Time to get back out and ride!!!

[@miedoalfracaso2017]

man I love this channel

[@The_Sampler]

Man i Love hearing that!!!

[@SalvadorFrieri]

Great review, Alex! It would be great if you could continue the same comparison analysis with other bikes!

[@The_Sampler]

+Salvador Frieri I don't have access to bike demos very often, but would consider this format for future ones

[@jasno333]

HAHA you can just hear Bryan back there whooping it up. Great video man

[@The_Sampler]

+jasno333 oh yea he was on my ass having a great time riding a pivot 429

[@yoji58]

Glad to see you jamming again.

[@The_Sampler]

👍👍

[@utahbikerider3285]

videos are awesome got a new subscriber keep up the good work!

[@The_Sampler]

Yeeewwwwwww!!! Welcome to the channel, I'm super stoked to have you here!!

[@HyLifeSociety]

I love them all, I want a different bike for every day of the week, some bikes where built to shred certain trail types.

[@gaylinlack726]

Really good. Actually useful, even for a novice. Thanks.

[@arrowv1]

Great video! I enjoyed the comparison.

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Aaron! I enjoyed it too - I had always wanted to see what would happen!

[@jabrobbins]

Fun comparison. Did Brian keep up on the Pivot with less travel and regular 29er tires? I've heard great things about the Pivot 429. For some of us XC geeks the Enduro and Stumpy are a little overkill on less technical trails.

[@The_Sampler]

JoJo he flew on that thing!! Right behind me the whole way

[@pandevant]

Yup, I think this is your niche. I think your reviews are more informative and enjoyable than the more established mags. I'm trying to choose between the Bronson and the '17 Enduro. Would be interested in your take on the new Enduro with the 2.6 tires. I demoed one during Crankworx and was intrigued.

[@The_Sampler]

+pandevant hell yea man, thank you! Careful with that new enduro, they increased the travel again, so it'll be quite different from the Bronson

[@pandevant]

I'm hoping for an all around bike. I want something I can do Top of the World with but still be able to manage Lost Lake without too much hassle. I've demoed both. They actually felt similar to me. I had broken ribs when riding the Enduro so didn't take it into the park.

[@pandevant]

I've also ridden the new standard Stumpy. Way to sketchy with the head angle.

[@bullseye0112]

Thanks for the video Alex! I don't think the comparison between a "Stumpy" and enduro is really a comparison of those 2 bikes when you have plus size tires on one. I'm curious to see the same ride with a 27.5 Stumpy. I was trying to figure out the same thing as far as 150mm vs 160mm+ travel. I also went with the Enduro. I really like riding in the Plus Tires because they are so plush with climbing and stuff but I haven't really got a chance to go downhill yet. to me this video was more about showing the plus and minuses of a plus Tire. I really enjoyed that part. it definitely shows that it makes the ride smoother although a little slower and a little stiffer at times

[@The_Sampler]

+Bullseye Fowl thanks dude! Yea, it's not a direct comparison, BUT it was still super fun and insightful for me, and hopefully you as well!

[@bullseye0112]

The Singletrack Sampler of course, definitely insightful, in fact if I was specialized, I would hire you to attract every day buyers

[@jobbieking2644]

Very informative Alex Loved it Man U can ride Nice work Thumbs up for sure mate

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Jobbie! Stoked you enjoyed it dude :D

[@johnmarquet5964]

Lovin the vids you hell man. I saw you demo'd the Yeti 27.5+ also. You seemed to shred on both but did you prefer one over the other? Cheers

[@The_Sampler]

It's honestly hard to say. I enjoyed both plus bikes quite a bit. I think the Stumpy was more efficient, but the Yeti was more fun.

[@alboneta7821]

I own both a Stumpy 6fattie and an Enduro and while both are capable bikes, I just have more fun riding the Stumpy. When I putt a 27.5+ wheelset on my Enduro, it felt super slow and I hated riding it in that setup. I think part of it is perception because my 29er Stumpjumper is faster than both of my 2017 bikes, but doesn't feel as fast or as much fun.

[@The_Sampler]

Yea, it's two very different aspects in my mind too: fast vs fun, and a lot of times they are not on the same bike

[@chriscox1618]

Vid was well put together! Good stuff

[@The_Sampler]

Thanks Chris

[@stephenwhitington4525]

I really enjoyed the video, it's the best independent test on tire size I've seen,but I am still riding the old 26" wheels ! So would love to see you blast this segment on an old enduro 26" to see how you feel the wheel size has impacted you riding .

[@The_Sampler]

+Stephen Whitington thanks Stephan! It wasn't more than 2 years ago that I was on my 26er as well my friend ;)

[@hamderole]

That's an insane selection of rental bikes! Cool trail! When's the next flight for the US? :)