2017 Subaru Forester XT: LED Fog Light Install and Review! (SubieLED)

[@VideoNOLA]

2:30 and 9:20, then 11:50, are probably why you came here. You're welcome. This guy really loves to talk.

[@georgemaniatis4673]

fuck yeh!!

[@SpencerHogg]

Wicked job on the video as usual bro, Fogs are looking awesome!! Hope you're doing well!

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Yeah man, doing well! Thanks for watching my dude!

[@DoctaM3]

Much hype... I agree, its better to have the cleaner look but also for safety purposes, its better. They install looks great!

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Thanks doc! The STI is next!

[@nick28190]

T-WRX hey I just received mine and they say their h7 but look nothing like yours

[@Shevy2TheLevy]

just got a 2017 touring myself and this is a lot of help. was looking at led fogs to match. Basically what this video was about so thanks!

[@TWRX_Chuck]

No problem! Thanks for watching!

[@quicksilver827]

Check out the Morimoto XB LED fogs! I believe they are a plug-n-play installation also

[@Shevy2TheLevy]

quicksilver827 I saw those also. didn't see an actual install. but they do look good.

[@AlphaXray]

In case anyone needs the details, it appears H11 bulbs are needed for anyone that has eyesight on their forester. It has steering responsive fog lights which must have a slightly different housing. The H16 bulbs should work in any model that doesn't have eyesight.

[@nicholascaptures]

I have an '18 limited without eyesight and I have steering responsive headlights so I believe I need h11. Without eyesight.

[@andrewyi4477]

Word thanks for the heads up. I was about to do this swap & i have a 17fxt eye sights.

[@jasonswift7098]

I changed all the globes in my 2017 Forester 2.5i-S (Aussie spec) to LED the licence plate globes, reverse globes, indicators, cargo boot light, dome and map lights door lights, front indicators and fog lights.

[@morryarty]

Thanks, man, I got 2017 Forester last year, had front end work done (side-swiped) & noticed one fog light out. Ordered new ones, watched your great video first. Found the thing Unconnected! Installed new ones anyway & they are awesome bright. I got SEALIGHT-LEDs from Amazon.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Awesome, thanks for checking out the video 👍

[@williamreynolds6132]

Loved your video so I added these to my 2015 forester 2.5i Touring. My HID headlamps don’t match these as well as yours. The 6500k option is still more blue than the headlamps but not enough to make me want to try the light yellow stickers. I too was worried about the extra light up high but without the sharp edge from the projector-style lamp(mine are reflector) it’s not nearly as noticeable. I still asked everyone I knew when I would follow them or meet them if they were too bright. Nobody said they were any brighter than other cars. I also used them in heavy fog and snow and they’re amazing, no glare and so much more light. I love these things and I’m still amazed how much more light they put on the road.

[@billman6364]

Fog lights are supposed to be yellow to help see better in rain&fog

[@VideoNOLA]

Not sure if you know this, but LEDs typically shine brighter the colder they are. It's not your imagination that LED traffic lights (and headlights, etc.) become so much brighter in winter. The trade-off, of course, is that LEDs emit a much narrow band of the color spectrum than their incandescent (traditional) counterparts. Hence their visual "starkness" at night.

[@MrValerin]

Wow! that is a huge difference!! I need to upgrade my 2017 XT to.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

yeah man, they are crazy bright!

[@wrxnate2450]

Wow such a big change. Might need to upgrade mine in my Wrx and install some on my wife's Forester.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

I installed them in the STi tonight... love them!

[@Jonbrust]

Finally someone shows off the headlight performance on a forester! lol I know you are showing off the fog lights but I've been dying to see how the headlights are. Haven't been able to take a night time test drive.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

The Forester LED headlights are very nice in my opinion!

[@chuckjim8281]

Looks so good. I cant wait for the yellow ones on the STI. The Instagram pics looked epic!

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Dude I love them sooo much! Video should be out this weekend!

[@terribarker4917]

My question as a new 2017 Subaru Forester Touring. If you replace the fog light stock bulbs and move to brighter LED bulbs, if you need to see in fog or heavy snow, bright lights actually cut down your visibility. Have you used the new LED fog lights in heavy snow or fog? How was visibility under those conditions? I, like you, like the bright LED fog lights so they match the headlights, but would hate to lose the ability to see in heavy snow or fog.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

It's not winter yet so no snow so far. I've driven in fog without much issue. They come with differing color films, I believe its been proven that a yellow hue helps cut fog and precipitation, maybe try those?

[@terribarker4917]

Ok, thanks! Good video btw.

[@scottfirman]

These fools do not get it. Yellow cuts though fog not blue light. I do not get it. I used to install fog lights on all my cars. In winter, bright lights will just throw the light back at you. Snow reflects light. Not so on yellow. All he made was spot lights.

[@robroy8604]

Thanks for your video T-WRX. I did the same foglight install on my 2017 FXT Touring (venetian red) and it looks great. I will say that the 6000K color temperature with no color cap is still a little bluer than the stock headlights. The 4500K color cap may be a closer match.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Agreed, I don't know if they have one that will match exactly, but they still look way better than stock!

[@robroy8604]

I put on the 4300K color cap but it was more amber than the headlights, so I peeled it off. I had the foglights on one night and did have an oncoming driver flash me. From the box labelling, the bulb appears to have a multi-purpose role and may serve as a headlight in other applications.

[@Rhosticks]

Another sweet install. Those new LED fogs make a huge difference. Hope they don't cause any trouble lol

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Thanks man! No issues so far!

[@rsantos0303]

Another good Forester video

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Thanks Robert!

[@MOIISKA]

Going to be doing this swag for my XT.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Noice!

[@bbbl67]

Yeah, I put some replacement LED's for my Tribeca's fogs as well. The Tribeca already had HID low-beams, halogen fogs. The HID's had a colour range of 6000K, and the LED fogs were probably 6500K. Very closely matched in color to each other. However, the output of the LED's puts to shame the output of the HID's, I think they are definitely brighter than the low-beams, even though they are about the same colour. Still I'm happy, I don't think it really matters if the fogs are more powerful than the low-beams, as the fogs are down below the lows, so they won't be shining directly in anybody's direct line of sight. And they do fill out the darkness close to your car, where the low-beams don't go.

[@eltonko]

It's a cool idea, but the off-white color gives better contrast. I have the '17 touring model with led headlights, and it's too white. It's difficult to differentiate objects sometimes. I leave the oem foglights on to increase the contrast.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

You could run them with one of the more yellow hued tints if you like that contrasty look. I'll probably be putting the yellow ones in my STi! The brightness is definitely appreciated on the back roads!

[@eltonko]

Good idea

[@eltonko]

Good idea

[@DOBERSTAFFIE]

please don't get upset, but you may have slight night blindness and be in need of vitamin A, a deficiency in it leads to poor vision in the dark.

[@dont-be-hasty]

Nice vid, I liked the shots of the light comparison from on the hood, but I think I would have liked even more a shot from the drivers perspective or at least something close to that. Do you have any other vids showing off your new lights? Also, did you ever find out if the new fogs are annoying to on coming traffic? Thanks for the vids man!

[@TWRX_Chuck]

I've not done any more vids showing off the lights. But we've had them installed for months and never had any issues with other drivers being annoyed. They are still working great!

[@Deftoneslover-p6q]

Can you show us how you wired it?

[@misterlinh]

love you included the driving part in the review. god blessss

[@ronaldsteiger7562]

Thank you for these videos I am wondering how you have made out with reliability on the LED Fog bulbs you put into the Forester. What about the heat ? Dealer told me not to change bulbs as they could melt the plastic ? Opinion ??

[@TWRX_Chuck]

I've had them in for 5+ months and had no issues thus far!

[@juancarlosriveracetina5886]

It’s actually the opposite. Leds are cooler than incandescent bulbs

[@jwallisawesome]

@@juancarlosriveracetina5886 All depends on power draw, but generally you're correct assuming light output is equal

[@rsantos0303]

Chuck, hopefully next week I'll put up a 4K video of detail Forester on my channel , still waxing!

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Excellent, I'll check it out!

[@bill7481]

Any concerns that the LED lights won't heat up enough to melt the snow that will eventually get stuck on them, as they are somewhat recessed?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

High output LED's actually put off a crap load of heat, I don't know if that will transfer to the housings through radiant heat, but honestly that never even crossed my mind!

[@joholmes4340]

Bill , I've heard this before. They said that bulbs project the heat forward and the LEDs create their heat to the rear where the chips are. Hence the rear mounted heat sink. So if the snow problem is bad, just keep the old bulbs around. It takes less that 5 min to change back

[@borismo2086]

Love it totally

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Thanks man! I'm loving it!

[@fyrdiver]

So now almost a year into having these LED lights...what do you think?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Still love them, no issues thus far!

[@19Steven91]

T-WRX how were they in snow?

[@nathana5269]

Awesome job. Have u considered auxbeam led. They have 4lm per bulb so a set is 8k land they run for around 45 bucks

[@TWRX_Chuck]

I've seen them floating around on youtube and been approached by them. But if they are brighter than these I think they have a more definite potential to impeded other drivers!

[@nathana5269]

True. But how high can u go before ur not allowed? Ik it depends what kind of headlight u have. But I'm thinkin about doing my headlights and fog lamps to them so all together 16k LM on front. U think that to much?

[@hectorgonzalez9465]

I checked subieled website but didnt say any product (led) for forester 2016........only WRX

[@joshuastree]

How do u remove the bottom panel. It looks like a super secret clip

[@memonewman11x]

cool vid, i put the yellow film over mine and i dont know if I'll keep it. looked good on my sti but i dont know about the forester. I took out that one clip and turned the wheel and got access through the side in the wheel well. thanks for clarifying the films and stuff lol, I'll probably take the yellow film off and leave it just white 👌🏾

[@TWRX_Chuck]

I'm digging the white on the XT and I'm running the yellow on the STi!

[@misztal2112]

Do you find a big difference between stock foglights on the forester compared to the STI? When I put the fog lights on in my WRX I can't even see a difference. I'll definitely have to get some of these.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Yeah the WRX/STI has the exact same fog light bulb that the forester does. I have a video coming out this weekend where I replace the WRX fogs with these as well! Totally worth it!

[@misztal2112]

Great. I look forward to it.

[@FreedomLover170]

Hey Chuck just picked up out forester xt this week and after watching this video I ordered a set of these leds.. just wondering how they are holding up this far?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

No issues so far! I've got them on my STI as well and have them on everyday without issue!

[@CybersecProf]

Love the video. I have the morimoto led fog light kit on my 15 WRX with the yellow Lamin x overlays. These look great too. Only thing preventing me from installing led fog light bulbs or housings with led such as the morimoto is the steering responsive fog lights. Does your XT have the feature?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

XT has the steering responsive headlights, but I've never heard of these cars coming with steering responsive fogs?

[@CybersecProf]

T-WRX They do have. At least the Canadian models.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

djemzine2008 Weird I guess the US didn't get these, ours are just standard halogen bulbs and standard housings, no mechanisms to rotate them.

[@evilcatis]

The models 1 below the top end without the steering responsive headlights get the steering responsive fog light. I don't think any have both(Canada and USA).

[@tannerpoulton6647]

Awesome review! I'm looking to replace my Forester's fogs with LED bulbs for off road use. What kind of life have you gotten out of the LEDs?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Thanks man! They've been on the car since this video and I've had no issues with them! 5ish months so far, no problems!

[@tannerpoulton6647]

+T-WRX solid man! I appreciate the response!

[@cehyde98]

Hey, Chuck. Great content...thanks so much and keep it coming. Quick question...have you already replaced the stock low beam headlights, and if so, what did you get. I have to get these fogs. I run just the yellow lamin-x overlays, but these look sick. Thanks again.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Thanks man, glad you are enjoying the videos! This is a touring model XT so it actually comes from Subaru with LED low beams, which is why they look so good! No mods have been done to the low beams/high beams, only the fog lights have the new LED bulbs. Check out my STI video to see how ridiculously yellow the yellow film for these fogs makes them, its super cool!

[@cehyde98]

DUH...I meant to post this comment on the STI video...I have a white 2016 WRX Premium, which comes with the LED low beams as well. I was just wondering if you swapped those out on your STI. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for the feedback! Love the STI...the new wheels look great.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

haha no worries man! But no the sti low beams are stock!

[@MrMinecraftAtlantis]

I've got a 2017 Forester XT also! Great video dude, gosh, thanks so much for this. I subscribed to your channel 👍

[@TWRX_Chuck]

No problem dude, thanks for watching!

[@Tkcatch]

Any feedback after making it almost a year with them? How do they perform in the winter and fog. Is it too overpowering to be effective in those situations? How angry have other drivers gotten at you with them? Any complaints?

[@adrianworkphone6501]

What is the original fog bulb size

[@johngregory662]

This is a good video. I was just thinking to myself how easy/hard it would be to put leds in my 2017 forester

[@cwescapexlt4x4]

Looks great and better match without the film

[@TWRX_Chuck]

thanks! Im loving them so far!

[@MOIISKA]

Any follow ups to the bulbs? In my experience, when you swap out for aftermarket stuff, you always have all kinds of burn out and drama afterwards.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Yes I agree, I had the same concerns. These fog bulbs have been solid no issues this far!

[@MOIISKA]

No issues with local law enforcement because of their brightness?

[@ronaldsteiger7562]

How do I feel about not going with a LED as I understand it actually cuts down on visibility and going with a PIAA Plasma Yellow Ion replacement

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Fair enough!

[@DOBERSTAFFIE]

Have you tried them in FOG/SNOW? How were they, did they cut through it or reflect the light back? Also did you have any issues with error warning lights on the dash as many LED conversions need load resistors or an LED decoder installed to handle the change from halogen to LED..

[@TWRX_Chuck]

No warning lights at all and we've not yet had snow this year. I've used them in fog though and I don't have any issues, they are definitely brighter than stock though.

[@DOBERSTAFFIE]

cool good to know, I have the 09 Forester so bit more tricky to get into the back of the lamps. Standard fogs are pitiful so hoping these led replacement bulbs would make the same difference they did for your new model.

[@MOIISKA]

@T-WRX - How are the foglight holding up? Hope all is well with you.

[@sethsin9506]

Hi thanks for the video! Would you happen to have a video on how to replace the headlight bulb(HID)?

[@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane]

That's definitely going to blind oncoming cars. And, it will probably make actual fog worse when you need it.

[@williamreynolds6132]

Walter Black they don’t and it doesn’t.

[@rkramm]

Hi ... you can inform me what kind of light bulb the Forester carries in the fog .. H8, H11 or H16 ???

[@TWRX_Chuck]

It is a H16 bulb

[@dasboot360]

Raul Kramm hmmm I thought it was an 11. Cool. Thanks

[@bkonker]

Awesome thanks!

[@AustinKloud]

Hey bud- I have a Forester XT and dig the lights- is SubieLED still selling those lights? I sent them a message and never heard back from them.

[@LordLoMR2]

I already get hi beamed with the regular led headlights in my XT... now with led fogs people are gonna be steaming. Haha

[@Briantan1911]

Any long term updates?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Still working great! No issues thus far!

[@nickgibbons6668]

Do you have the Touring XT? My Premium XT didn't come with fog lights or led lights. I checked Subaru's website as well and the premium doesn't seem to offer led or fog lights. If it does I'm gonna be livid!

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Yessir, this is a touring! Don't be too mad! The LED headlights were actually one of the reasons I sprung for the touring!

[@nickgibbons6668]

T-WRX Ha yea I like them a lot. Hoping I can maybe switch mine out for all led one day. Love your vids, keep em coming!

[@surachetn4840]

Fog light look very nice. Can you make video how to change HID headlight on your 2017 forester? I try search around but did not see any body make this video yet. My is 2014 forester but I think is the same as 2017.

[@Wasabi9111]

any issues w on coming traffic glare?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

No indication from other drives on the road yet. I'll keep you posted!

[@DronieUp]

Hey did you have to adjust the level of your fog lights?

[@paulchristianguzman3324]

Which one are u using for the 2017 forester h16 bulb or h11 bulb for the fog lights? Thanks

[@TWRX_Chuck]

H16 is the stock bulb size!

[@andrewfisher7599]

Just looking back at this video.. Considering the same for my 17XT.. So, have you had any issues with oncoming traffic? Are these too bright or or has it been a non issue? Im Canadian so would like to support SubieLED as well....THX.

[@cliffordb47]

way cool iam getting them thank you

[@XIKAIIX]

Hi. Will this work for a 2017 Forester 2.5i premium?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

If you have factory fog lights then yes it will!

[@XIKAIIX]

actually my forester did not come with any fog lights

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Ok, you'd need the foglight housings and wiring harness first for this to work.

[@theresarios1749]

Had same question about this. I live in Northern VA as well. You know any shops that install fog lights for 2.5i Forester?

[@tazereli]

Just purchased a 2018 XT premium so no LED headlights. Have you done an install of LED headlights to replace Halogens?

[@shmendrik213]

Nice! Gives it that high-end euro SUV look.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Thanks man, I think so too!

[@7777Gixer]

Does the high output LED melt the reflector or blurred the lens of the fog light after prolong usage?

[@markshelley300]

i installed the 3s led in the fog lamps and noticed that the gray housing is very hot. is that normal. 2017 outback, according to the manuel it says h11 thats what im using. i read you commented that h16 is the stock bulb for forrester is that for outback too

[@ningendo6940]

hey i have a 2017 legacy but i can't seem to find which one fits my car how do i find out the type? H11 H8 or H16

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Easiest way is to pull a fog light bulb and see what it says on the side. if I had to guess it'd be the H16 since my two subies have it, but take a look!

[@longislandforester859]

Anyone know if the crosstrek and forester use the same bulbs?

[@corgis7083]

The key word is FOG light..bright white lights reflect off of the fog causing blindness. Yellow penetrate the fog .

[@ashotk8394]

Hey T, i am getting the 3000 lumen lights for my fogs on my 2017 WRX (sport/premium) package. Which type of bulb should i use? H11 or H16?

[@TWRX_Chuck]

The box is stamped H11 that I got, but the bulbs are technically H16's that come out of the fogs. I'd email them just to verify.

[@lowbidder0000]

I installed these on my 2017 Forester Touring over a year ago and they work great except for one problem. I have condensation buildup inside the housing lens. I've checked the installation and it seems the rubber seal to prevent this is a little loose. Has anyone else experienced this and what did you do to correct it? Thx

[@agencialeotours6251]

is there a switch or a screw thing to level up or down the aim of the light for foglights? I am going to install some leds in there soon and i wanted to know.

[@bulknpanda9623]

Would these fit a 2018 Forester as well? also do you have a video on replacing HI/LOW Halogen's to LED headlights? thanks.

[@richardloh8260]

Hi ! Slightly off topic but is upgrading of the stock LED headlight and boomerang C LED drl possible ? Reason is that they are probably more like 4300k or 5000k that actually obvious more yellow than this 6000 or 6500 aftermarket LED foglights that I has also installed together with the sti linear/"fangs" DRL that are also whiter. Thanks in advance.

[@dvillalba3d]

6500k is white light. Anything above that is blue, and anything bellow that is yellow. So forget about lights offering 8000k or 10000k. you are just coloring on blue.

[@TWRX_Chuck]

Good info, thanks for watching man!

[@guitarguync]

I'm pretty sure 4300k is pure white, and for fogs it is better to be more yellow, like 2500-3000k.

[@ruud2559]

3000K is yellow. 4300K is yellowish white. Pure white is 5500K. 6000K looks white but is in fact already slightly blue. 6500K even more. 8000K is just blue and above 12000K it becomes purple. The pure white DRL's on modern cars are 5500K.

[@VideoNOLA]

This fog light product is clearly targeted at people with near-zero understanding of "color temperature". Films and filters subtract wavelengths, hence diminish output. It's impossible for them to "shift" or "add" colors not already present in the LED's output. I'm laughing now.

[@chrisparker1267]

another bright ass car to blind everyone oncoming

[@VideoNOLA]

Warning: DO NOT USE THESE "FOG LIGHTS" IN ACTUAL FOGGY CONDITIONS (unless your goal is to blind yourself and every other driver on the road).

[@scottfirman]

WHY the HELL are they calling them FOG lights? They are NOT fog lights. YELLOW bulbs cut through fog NOT bright LEDS . Why the HELL do you think they are called FOG LIGHTS? People now days do not THINK. Try flipping those things on in a snow storm. The only thing you are going to see is SNOW REFLECTING back in your face. Those are DRIVING lights. NOT FOG lights. I replaced my stock bulbs with ACTUAL YELLOW FOG lights. Even in fog, you are NOT going to see farther with BRIGHTER lights. Thats the reason they included yellow filters. I wouldnt buy those things. Its best to buy yellow lens if possible. The inserts they sell are garbage and do not fit properly. I personally like the yellow lens look. It is more retro old school looking. If you really wanted to look cool you could mount some actual yellow round lights on a light bar on the roof rack up front.

[@jaredvick9058]

Is it true I would need H11 bulbs if I have a 2018 Forester XT Touring with eyesight?

[@XIM2COOLX]

Yup just did ours