2017 VW Golf Sportwagen ATF Service

[@ericbergin707]

Brought my 2018 tsi in to VW last week and they wanted 849.99 plus taxes (Canadian). i just ordered everything for under 200 bucks and have all the tools. thanks for the video!!

[@JRsGarage]

VW service prices are crazy. They wanted $250 to do the cabin and engine filters. 🙄

[@andrewjohnstone2552]

Appreciate the video, could only find DSG videos until I found yours! I am going to do this tomorrow. bought the same fluid because the oem stuff is $55 per bottle at my dealer

[@JRsGarage]

Happy to help. It worked great and I could tell the shifts were smoother afterwards.

[@aphextwin004]

Excellent video! I just performed this maintenance on my 2015 Golf S TSI and it was identical to this video only my filter did not have the rubber seal and it was not stuck in the transmission either. My new filter came with one so I used. I bought a cheap $5 fluid transfer pump and pumped the oil up into the transmission from the bottom, this worked great too. Cheers!

[@JRsGarage]

Happy to help.

[@georgebenavides6780]

completed my own fluid replacement on my 2017 VW Passat SE W/TECH PACK GAS 1.8L TSI. It really is as simple as putting as much ATF in as you take out. Thanks for posting this video as I found it to be the most helpful. my transmission was exactly the same as the one in your video. mine had 59500mi. No rubber o ring on the OEM filter new one had one and I used it it works great.

[@JRsGarage]

Happy to help.

[@jamesjohnson3910]

The beauty of that system is the engineers thought of everything. That little tube that's inside behind the drain plug is a very important part. It keeps you from over filling the trannny.

[@JRsGarage]

True, but they also could have done the normal thing by putting the fill port at the proper height to set the fluid level.

[@Barryd57]

Actually, that's not correct. The trans could have had too little fluid when you started. Refilling it with the same amount would leave it short.

[@JRsGarage]

True, always fill it per the procedure.

[@john_dee1431]

Thanks!

[@JRsGarage]

Thank you so much.

[@chronicmedic]

Great video. You made this easy for me to understand. Thank you ... I am a very new to car maintenance, only took me decades.

[@JRsGarage]

My pleasure.

[@jamesleggett9310]

Not sure if you still monitor the comments of a three year old video, but I'd grateful if you could explain the process involved to safely get the car on stands to get it level. Did you jack at the rear tire pinch welds then slide the jack stand in for each side one at a time while the front was on ramps? @8:45 I see your jack somewhere near the rear diff. Did you do that just for safety? Sorry if these questions seems stupid but I've never had my car completely off the ground like this. All the maintenance I've ever done on my vehicles has only ever required the front or one tire to be jacked. This is a great video and has given me the confidence to try this myself. Thank you!

[@JRsGarage]

No problem. You can jack the vehicle from the middle of the rear cross member. That's why you see the jack there in the video. That's where I lifted it. Then put the stands at the rear pinch welds and lower the jack until the car is resting on the stands and level. Thanks for watching.

[@jamesleggett9310]

@@JRsGarage I just finished the job on my wife's car and I wanted to come here again and thank you for posting this video. Money is really tight for us right now and the dealership wanted almost 1k for this job. Some of that saved money is going under the tree for my kids now. People like you are what makes the internet great! Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!

[@JRsGarage]

Merry Christmas to you as well. Thank you for the comment, it's my pleasure.

[@stevenwells9606]

Perfect...so hard to find any information on the non DSG transmissions.

[@JRsGarage]

Mine's not a DSG transmission. 6 speed automatic.

[@stevenwells9606]

@@JRsGarage yep I said non DSG. Appreciate you posting the video.

[@JRsGarage]

Wow, read that wrong. Sorry for the confusion. Thank you for the comment.

[@danielwatson2068]

Thanks very much for this, very useful while changing out the fluid and filter on m7 daughter's new to us 140k mile VW Golf TSi. Found out that some clown had overfilled the box by two liters! (as well as used RTV on the the gasket which made it a pain to remove). No wonder the car was shifting harshly. Now all is correct, and shifting very sweetly indeed. I used a cheap adapter and hand pump to fill from the bottom....figured that was slightly easier than getting at the fill port on the side there.

[@JRsGarage]

Great, happy to help.

[@DavidMartinez-ki4fl]

What condition was the old fluid in? My 2014 Jetta TSI is at 186k miles and I want to do this service but I’m scared that it may cause the transmission to fail. Do you think I’ll be okay?

[@JRsGarage]

I'm no transmission specialist so I can't advise you on what may or may not happen. My fluid looked to still have some life left but you have way more miles on yours than I had.

[@danielwatson2068]

@@DavidMartinez-ki4fl Mine didn't seem too bad (other than being ridiculously overfilled). Personally, I've never bought thst old 'it's too late to change your oil' line. If old gummed up fluid is what is keeping your trans together... Then it's already wrecked IMHO. If I had your car I'd be changing it

[@GentlemanTomcat]

Advice from someone who just did this maintenance! The drain pan bolt closest to the center front of the car is a thru hole so the steel screw can become fused to the aluminium housing making it very difficult to remove. Make sure you apply lots of penetrating lubricant to the TOP side of the hole where the threads are days or hours before you do this job. I was not lucky and the bolt head snapped off, then when I was trying to remove the rest of the bolt the rest of it broke off so I had to drill it out. Thankfully its a thru hole so I was able to put a nut on the backside becuase the threads were destroyed trying to remove the bolt. If you 're going to do this maintenance just flush all the fluid (buy 6qts) , no sense only doing 3 qts if you've got it set up. To clarify to the video, the car needs to be as close to perfectly level as possible, front to back and side to side. You should be flushing the fluid while the car is running and reinstalling the drain bolt WHILE the car is running. if you shut the car off without the drain bolt in place a bunch of fluid drains out and you don't want that. I was nervous about crawling under a running car but that just what has to be done, stay safe. The drain bolt washer has an up-side and a down side, the slooth side without the ridge makes contant with the drain pan. The car shifts way better than before and the fluid that came out was dark black so it was worth it.

[@JRsGarage]

Thanks for all the information and tips.

[@hkiceca]

Great video. I will do the ATF change on my 2017 Golf this summer. Thanks a lot.

[@JRsGarage]

My pleasure

[@john_dee1431]

Followed this video. SCV tran code. Used the Febi service kit. Just under 3L fluid, not 5-6L as some kits call for.

[@benjiang6493]

This is the best video I found shows most key steps on youtube. I think your AT is 09G second gen, the trans code could be NTJ as well. my 15 Jetta 1.8TSI has the same transmission. I think two more things we can make it better: 1. use OBDeleven or supported scanner to check ATF temporary when we do the refill; 2. there is a drain plug washer need to be replaced too. I will do my ATF change soon, this video is really helpful, thanks!

[@JRsGarage]

Happy to help, thanks for the tips.

[@davem8165]

Great video, easy to follow. Lots of good info. I don't think you mentioned the temprature of the fluid? I have read on FCP Euro, that it should be between 30 and 40 degrees celcius. If you don't have a scanner you can use an infrared thermometer aimed at the pan.

[@JRsGarage]

Thanks for the tip.

[@Thrower20]

Thanks for the video, good to see one that is not a DSG only. How many liters did you get on the initial drain? I was thinking about draining the pan again to get the old fluid out of the torque converter and valve body.

[@JRsGarage]

Sorry, I do not recall. I didn’t measure the drained fluid.

[@noobwow2009]

You are the Hero

[@JRsGarage]

My pleasure.

[@huntdowse9727]

JR could you explain where the 'fill plug' is on the transmission? I've seen videos where a pipe is screwed into the drain plug and fluid is pumped up from below. A filler plug would be much easier. Thanks for the excellent video.

[@JRsGarage]

I tried to show it at 8:07 in the video sorry it's hard to get a clear image of it since it's behind a bunch of tubes. If you're looking at the transmission from the front of the vehicle it's on the front, above the pan. Look for a barcode sticker. It's on the left hand side of that sticker just above it.

[@Barryd57]

This procedure removes only 3 liters of the fluid leaving 3-4 liters still inside the torque converter. How do I remove all of it? If 4 liters of old fluid is left inside the next change needs to be sooner than 65k or 80k depending upon the year.

[@JRsGarage]

The procedure outlined in the video is performed as stated in the VW service manual section 7.2. The service manual does not call for replacing all the ATF in the system, only 3 liters. I'm going to assume that the engineers that set the service interval talked to the engineers that created the service procedure.

[@paulmartin4680]

Excellent video - thank you for making it!!! My replacement transmission filters didn't come with a new (replacement) gasket/o-ring? I have four Golfs (three 4-door hatchbacks and one GSW) that I service and had to re-use the existing o-ring . . . Apparently the o-ring isn't included with OEM parts, only third-party manufacturers . . . I guess I'll be using Beck Arnley in the future!

[@JRsGarage]

My pleasure, happy to help.

[@danielyawn8753]

Thanks! Wife has a 17 Beetle Vert 1.8. w/ 65kmi. I've been getting very mixed info and owners manual, online, and dealer are useless. One local "Euro" shop said must change at 40 & 80 K or will have catastrophic failure. Cost to do: $890! Another shop said that this is a sealed transmission and is good for 100kmi. The car is her commuter for 100mi a wk. and she drives gently. No idea what code the trans is. Should I do this or just wait until 100k? In Nashville.

[@JRsGarage]

Check for the transmission code on a sticker near the spare tire. If it’s SCV or SCU this is the right video for you. In my Sportwagen it’s recommended every 80k miles.

[@ivanvega2821]

Great video! Quick question, does the vehicle have to be jacked eventually on all 4 sides to get an accurate refill reading?

[@JRsGarage]

It should be level to fill properly to the correct amount.

[@samfusaro97]

Great detailed video. What transmission code do you have?

[@JRsGarage]

SCV, thanks.

[@kevingarofalo8493]

Good video! My question is, is this the same transmission as my wifes 18 Beetle 2.0t hatchback? It's a non-DSG, so assuming its the same 6 speed auto as this? Also, did you find the Liqui-Moly is certified for use in this transmission? I thought WS was the only fluid to be used. Her car seems to have hard/clunky downshifting when slowing to a stop. car only has 20k miles on it, and it always seemed clunky to me. TY for the great video!!

[@JRsGarage]

VW G 055 540 is the specified fluid for the SCU SCV transmission. Check the sticker near your spare tire. If it says SCU or SCV then yes, it is the same transmission. The fluid I use in the video conforms to the VW specification.

[@john_dee1431]

Thanks for this. Question: under 3 liters? I see these service kits with 5 and 6 liters. Is your MK7 1.8, 6-speed auto different? About to do this job and would really appreciate knowing.

[@JRsGarage]

Yes, I've done the job 3 times now and it always takes slightly less than the 3 liters to fill it back up. If your transmission code is SCV or SCU it is the same as mine.

[@john_dee1431]

@@JRsGarage Same code. This is great news. Thanks!

[@EnriqueSaySo]

Do you have any videos on shift solenoid replacement?

[@JRsGarage]

No, sorry.

[@CaptainNymo]

And here I am trying to figure out which one is my gear box

[@JRsGarage]

According to the internet the DSG wasn't even an option on a 2017 Sportwagen. Not sure if yours is 2017 or not but you could Google your year and model or use your VIN to look it up.

[@jesse4109]

Look in your trunk where the spare tire is, there is a label/sticker that shows your engine code and Transmission code

[@JRsGarage]

Thanks for the tip.

[@bokiltd]

When you had to start the vehicle and go trough gears, did you put fill and drain plugs back in???

[@JRsGarage]

No, leave them out so you can top it up after cycling the transmission.

[@roguecaptor8734]

Same for QPA trans right? I have 2017 jetta 1.4t

[@JRsGarage]

Sorry, I can't confirm if it's the same as your transmission.

[@AbdulrahmanHadid]

is the T55 fill plug sealed by an O ring? do you have to replace it ? thanks! good video

[@JRsGarage]

I don't recall an o-ring, if there was one, I didn't replace it.

[@AbdulrahmanHadid]

@@JRsGarage thanks for the reply, I think I can see something black around it in the video, I thought it might be an O-ring

[@JRsGarage]

Yes, it does appear there is one in the video. I think I recall now that I didn't replace it because I was performing the service early compared to the service schedule and I figured I would change it next time. I should have noted that during the video, sorry.

[@AbdulrahmanHadid]

@@JRsGarage no problems, the weird thing is I am not able to find part number for it in Volkswagen diagrams or other parts stores

[@JRsGarage]

You'd probably have to go in to a VW dealership to order the part.

[@bouldercreekwinery]

Hi JR. Excellent how to. I have the same vehicle. I went to do a front (it's two wheel drive) differential fluid change and cannot find either the drain or fill plus. Do you know if the differential shares the ATF fluid or is it separate (75W/90) fluid? Thanks much.

[@JRsGarage]

Yea, the front diff (transaxle) shares the fluid, at least to my knowledge. There would likely be a separate service for the transaxle if it didn't but I've never seen a service interval listed for the transaxle... Have you?

[@bouldercreekwinery]

@@JRsGarage Thanks for the quick reply. No I haven't seen a service interval for the differential. I also own a 2017 Alltrack that does have a fill/drain plug for the front and rear differential. They both use about 1lt of 75/90 syn gear oil. No service interval listed but I plan on doing at 50K miles.

[@AdamStain]

Does the car need to be level at all to properly drain/fill the transmission?

[@JRsGarage]

Yes it should be level to fill. Not so much of a concern for the drain although it shouldn't be tilted forward as that would prevent some of the fluid from draining.

[@AdamStain]

@@JRsGarage Okay, I saw you had your car on ramps, lifting the front up. That works just fine then?

[@AdamStain]

Nevermind, I completely skipped over the part where you said you leveled it. Thanks. I've seen other video's where people measure how much fluid they remove? Is that required or just fill till it start coming out of the hole?

[@JRsGarage]

If you only refill as much as you removed it might not be correct depending on who did it last time or if he possibly had a leak or any of it was burnt by the transmission.

[@JRsGarage]

Put about 10,000 mi on mine since I did the job. No issues.

[@Radioactiv3Man8]

Sorry to ask another question, just currently fighting an uphill battle with my transmission. When you run the car, do you keep the drain plug out or did you put it back in while it runs? And the second time that you filled it, did you keep the car running as you filled or did you shut the car off?

[@JRsGarage]

I left the drain plug out with only the orange drain level tube inserted. Yes, fill it while it's running after running through the gears both times, and then put the drain plug in while it's running as well. You can then turn it off and remove the fill hose and put in the fill plug.

[@davided.9892]

Hello friend, I have a 2017 Jetta 1.8 tsi, do you think the transmission has the same 3 liters?

[@JRsGarage]

Check the sticker near your spare tire. If it says SCU or SCV then yes, it is the same.

[@MarylandDroneMedia]

Hi, when I call Volkswagen and speak to service advisor they tell me my 2016 Volkswagen Golf s has a sealed transmission it’s an automatic. They say it does not need to have transmission fluid changed. Thanks

[@JRsGarage]

My owner's manual lists transmission service as one of the required services. If yours doesn't than must be a different transmission.

[@JB-lc2fn]

Yeah right.That’s what they say.It’s a lifetime warranty which is about 60 k.You better change it out Atleast every 50 K or you’ll be paying for a new transmission.Cheers

[@elizabethmichelle6390]

I took my 16 Golf in to see VW for a drain and fill and they flat out refused to touch my car because it was "too high in mileage" hence why I'm here 😂😭 for the record, my car is approaching 160000 miles. I didn't care to do a flush since I had no idea if the previous owner did it prior to my ownership.

[@JRsGarage]

I wouldn't take it to a dealership for service unless it was still under warranty. Find a good shop in your area, or do it yourself and save a bunch of money.

[@elizabethmichelle6390]

@@JRsGarage I'm all about learning how to DIY! My mechanic isn't always available and I don't trust the clowns in town to not fuck my car up!

[@LMacNeill]

Any idea if this is the same for a 1.4 L 2019 Golf SE (not Sportwagen)?

[@JRsGarage]

I'm not certain, but it's probably very similar.

[@musakhoshnaw1857]

The same I did by myself You should fill it with 5 liters The rest is remaining in the torbine and between the clutches which is about one liter and half Totally is about 6 liters

[@JRsGarage]

Thanks for the info.

[@oleksiibondar8422]

@@JRsGarageHi. Is that 6 speed or 8 speed gear? If I’m not mistaking this is 6 speed gear box from Aisin.

[@JRsGarage]

6

[@Radioactiv3Man8]

Do you know where i could find a funnel like that?

[@JRsGarage]

It's this one: Draper 26327 Engine Oil Funnel with Tube Holds Square Rectangular Bottles, 30.5cm x 9.2cm x 14.4cm, Blue a.co/d/d0jWEz6

[@Radioactiv3Man8]

@@JRsGarage hell yea, thanks man! That'll come in handy for a lot of things. Thanks again for the video, I know a lot of people have said this but it's the only non DSG video out there and helped out a lot

[@JRsGarage]

It's my pleasure. Happy to help.

[@Radioactiv3Man8]

​@@JRsGaragejust realized the link was under the ATF link in the description 🤦

[@JRsGarage]

Nope, I just added that after you asked about it. 😁

[@brayan_m]

Anyone know if it would be the same for the ntj trans? It looks identical

[@JRsGarage]

Probably very similar but make sure you purchase the service kit specifically for your trans.

[@gikyu44]

How many liters do I need to fill it

[@JRsGarage]

3 liters

[@nando_nation]

Thanks for taking the time to make and share your video.. Is the fill hose 3/4 or 1/2 inch? Is it recommended to change the fluid while engine is cold or ran for a few minutes?

[@JRsGarage]

I'd change it after running it for a bit to warm it up. I think the hose I used was 1/2 in but I'm not sure.

[@rayvanderkleij6100]

Your also supposed to keep the transmission temp between 35 and 45 Celsius using a code reader with live data. If you get transmission too hot the fluid would expand to much and your fluid will actually be low. Good job otherwise. Being low is just as bad as being too full.

[@JRsGarage]

Correct, by the book it should be in the proper temperature range. Thanks for the information. For anyone interested in the math. I’ve read that thermal expansion of oil/atf is approximately .0007/L. If the transmission fluid was at full operational temp, approximately 85C and it is supposed to be max 45C then that 40C difference will equate to .0007 * 40 = .028 or 2.8% of 7l = 196ml. More than likely the trans isn’t at full operating temp so we can assume say half that or ~100ml. You could easily have that much variation simply based on not having the vehicle perfectly level. I doubt there’s any VW service techs getting out their plumb bobs to check for level during the service. That being said. I’m not providing a warranty for your vehicle so if you want to be sure, use a scanner with live data, or take it to a professional.

[@musakhoshnaw1857]

There is a mistake The car is not parted in a straight It makes a problem for taking the correct amount of fluid

[@JRsGarage]

Yes, the car should be level. I think I mentioned that in the video.

[@Jushwa]

@@JRsGarage thanks for showing how to level the car and that this is doable with ramps and jack stands. I’ll be trying this soon on our golf 🍻

[@JRsGarage]

Happy to help.

[@noobwow2009]

Is it the same for golf? Automatic transmission 09G 6AT??

[@JRsGarage]

I would assume it's very similar but I'm not sure if it's the exact same.

[@noobwow2009]

@@JRsGarage mine is 2017 golf 6AT. It's look identical. Would you mine sharing to transmission code? There should be a 09G there. I so tempting to do it myself 🙂 Service manual is a bit hard to understand

[@paul5683]

Wow, talk about overkill. The thing only has 40,000 miles on it. Doing service like that is asking for problems.

[@JRsGarage]

And now it has 80k miles on it and I'm getting ready to do it again. But, true, the service schedule is 80k miles for the first change. I did it at 40k to make the video.

[@broadshoulderbeaver]

Yeah but VW wants your trans to prematurely fail. 40-60k is a totally acceptable range.

[@JRsGarage]

Just did the 2nd service at 80k and trans is looking and running great.

[@pichidubz-566]

Overkill and asking for problems 🤦 you got so much to learn apparently 🤷

[@JRsGarage]

Apparently I do. In over 30 years I have maintained 11 vehicles, one I’ve owned over 20 years, and have never had any service done by anyone other than myself or under warranty. I’ve only had to scrap one of them - a used Audi I probably should have never bought in the first place.