2018-2021 Mustang GT Oil Change- Understanding Engine Tick- What You Need To Know

[@mustangMike740]

Can't believe that oil catcher didnt overflow!...ppl are freaked out about "the tick". Got my z13 merch today, prob wear it in tomorrow's upload. Great vid as usual

[@Zander13Productions]

mustang Mike 740 awesome brother thanks so much for the support. It means the world ❤️❤️❤️

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

People need to be aware of what they are buying. The tick is like the old mods throwing plugs. Ford never recalled any mods for all there problems they just brought out eco boosts an coyotes to replace the 4.6 an5.4 motors. Well we are back to the nightmares with the 18s I love the way these new 18 gts run but many of us are stuck with junk motors we can’t mod.

[@mustangMike740]

@@underfedcoyote5.022 i dont think the engine is junk at all. I just think they need to get to the bottom of whats causing it.. my car is being dismantled right now with a ford inspector expected to come have a look. We shall see.

[@joenobody2580]

Hmm I run motocraft in all my Fords. Had a buddy who went through nightmare with a 6.0 diesel after he changed the earl. Thousands at the dealer nobody could figure it out. It was the puralator oil filter. There's an oil filter test on here (KZbin) where dude actually cuts them open. The results will shock you. They all aren't the same like I use to think.

[@DucatiDiaries]

I never knew they recycled regular oil! Learn something new every day. Always synthetic!! Thanks for the vid brother.

[@CanadianCruisin]

Finally someone who doesn't buy ten 1 quart bottles 👍

[@q-bert6454]

Canadian Cruisin I buy 20 half quart bottles

[@rexr3306]

@@q-bert6454 I buy 320 shots of oil

[@ifGarage]

“It’S MoRe AcCuRaTe ThAt WaY” yeah whatever just buy 2 of the 5 quarts and call it a day 😂

[@CanadianCruisin]

@@ifGarage I pour in two 5 quarts and it right on the money everytime.

[@matthewhartup941]

I used some of the shitload of forpass owner rewards points I had and got a couple cases of motorcraft full synthetic. Only comes in single quarts.

[@rvlyssup]

I switched to 5w-30 when my 15 GTPP developed a tick, even before its first oil change. Even after 16k miles later, I never heard it again. Figured if its good enough for my TT Explorer Sport, more so on a n/a 5.0. Piston slap is a consistent tapping...tick is intermittent, 2 different things. Slap is normal for these motors due to the cylinder lining process used by Ford...the tick however, is not. As long as it isn't too late, using 30 weight oil should alleviate the issue IMHO.

[@jeremywooldridge5537]

Changing mine next week. After watching this I've decided to jump up to the 5w30 as well. I don't track mine yet but I drive it like I stole it. Don't have the tick but it seems like a lot of guys that do seem to get rid of it after going from 20-30. Glad to see Carnage out of the shop. She's looking good!

[@Zander13Productions]

thanks, so glad to have it back

[@edwardberwind8544]

Thanks for the information I'll be changing my oil for the first time at 5000 miles I'll be using 5w30 full synthetic. And I'll do it myself and know it's done right.

[@HikingwithTurtle]

I would also add Liqui Moly Cera Tec. For added protection.

[@williamwigton4270]

It probably wont be done right

[@edwardberwind8544]

@@williamwigton4270 This will be for the first time in my 2020 Mustang. I've been changing oil for the last 59 years. Not sure but I think I got this.

[@tomkjr1]

I switched to Amsoil(10W30racing--no winter driving)...amazing oil. I noticed a difference right away. I put their trans oil in my T56 Magnum too...shifting has never been smoother!

[@kenkobra]

To make it a little clearner try popping a hole in the bottom of the oil filter and let it drain for about 15-20 minutes. This way you have less oil getting on other parts. At least, that is what I do on my 2021 Mach 1.

[@Wooley689]

You HAVE to use the recommended weight oil. I consulted with an Engine builder who builds race engines for a living, on these and the 4.6 , the tolerances are so close, to thick and oil will not flow as should. Plus, the oil is the bearing in some areas of the engines. He had rebuilt several engines because people thought they were doing good to run heavier oil and that caused the problems.

[@xGR1MxREAPERx]

Go to a different mechanic the one your explaining is a fucking idiot. As he states, in the manual it says to use 5/30 when driving aggressive or on a track. 5/20 is so the car gets better fuel mileage and less emissions. That’s the only reason

[@samnunnally630]

Thanks, mate. Really informative. Been working my ass off through this crappy year to keep up with my goals of buying a GT the beginning of this summer and am really looking forward to doing routine maintenance myself. liked and subscribed.

[@alreadytracer8864]

Aussie GT owner here. All our cars run 10W-30 with no issues.

[@joenobody2580]

I am as wondering if you could run a thicker 10w or 15w. I really think this thin oil is bullshit.

[@steverugerguy9606]

​@@joenobody258010w30 mobil 1 has a pour point of -54.4 degrees F...good stuff.

[@JM-xp8te]

Sometimes its cheaper to buy 10 x 1 quart bottles than 2 x 5 quart jugs. Just have to calculate which is one is cheaper.

[@christophertrueman6701]

Fun tip, when your pour the oil into your engine turn the container on it's side, makes it much easier due to the air pressure. Nice job!

[@Zander13Productions]

Very good idea. I never thought of that. 🔥🔥🔥

[@christophertrueman6701]

@@Zander13Productions np :)

[@gta-gt7117]

Thanks for the heads up, I also have a 2019 with no tic tic as of yet. It’s almost time for an oil change and will do exactly what you have done. Great video brother exactly the information I needed.

[@Zander13Productions]

very welcome

[@AlejandroP1980s]

@@Zander13Productions how many times you got to change oil in like if I daily drive one

[@DanDuke]

You need a pair of Rhino ramps. You can hang them up out of the way near garage door when not in use. So much easier than jack stands for simple stuff like oil changes.

[@stevehall6539]

I do mine every 3500 with full synthetic , I have a 17 , but I'm not giving it any excuse to start making any funny noises . Good video bud .

[@mikekitsune123]

Steve Hall I have a 17 gt as well. What weight oil do you use. 5w20 or did you move up like this guy to 5w30. Thanks

[@stevehall6539]

@@mikekitsune123 I use nothing but Ford ( motorcraft ) 5/20 , I know it seems a bit excessive to do it every 3000 but I'm old school and like clean oil . I do the same thing with my 02 , and the same with my wife's 18 Ecoboost . See what people don't realize by putting in 5/30 , or even 5/50 in some cases , is that they are hiding the problem . Now with that said it's recommend in most of the blower cars , vmp , roush , ect , to use the heavier oil . A lot of guys who have the 18s are switching to 5/30 because of the tick , but they are masking the problem , I think the 18s are getting a bad reputation because of this tick , but these Coyotes have had the tick since 2011 , my 2011 gt had a slight tick and that car was never a problem with 90,000 miles on it , the only reason I sold it was to buy my 17 premium . Hope this helps , have a good new year bud .

[@jameshows5419]

I watched your video just to see how to remove the plastic drain plug . It was very simple but then again it’s plastic and I didn’t want it to break . Thanks for this video

[@johnfullbright9709]

At 6900 miles and haven’t changed oil yet. No tick. I’m a little weary of taking it to the dealer to change oil during service because on the ford pass app there’s a memo saying “up to 8 quarts of oil” but the capacity is 10

[@scringe1]

I hope ford got rid of the issues that the 2018 GT had. Great video.

[@marksirca1394]

I'm in Australia and have a 2017 GT, therefore the engine tick issue is not a problem as the 2015-2017 coyote motors have cylinder sleeves. Regarding the engine oil viscosity, the Ford dealers here use 5w20 but if you go to any auto parts store, the recommended oil is actually 5w30 not 5w20. I have visited all our major auto parts retailers and every one of them shows 5w30 as the recommended oil. The recommended service interval by Ford here is 15,000 kms, but i am doing intermediate services at around 7,000kms and taking it to Ford for the normal service interval as we also have a capped price service deal. Love my car, love the channel. Cheers Zander....👍

[@MrHdradeon]

Mark Sirca I have a 2017 and it ticks.

[@19explorersport96]

I have seen people using up to 5w-50w but I like your idea of using a 30w. Nice video. Informative for the novices.

[@Zander13Productions]

Thanks. I hope it will help some

[@danbaltizar6346]

The current motor is basically a upgraded BOSS (Roadrunner) which took 5w50. The 2011-14 Track Pack (today is Performance Pack), took 5w50 and so did the 2012-14 GT500 and 2011-2014 GT350. They all had upgraded cooling, and internals, except the old Track Pack which lacked the internals but had the cooling. Ford should use the 5w50 or a 10w50 in it in climat s where it rarely goes below 35 F and other areas 0-5w40. They currently use the same damn oil nationwide, which is all because of your EPA for mpg ratings. The first oil has a high zink content to assist in break in. After 500 miles, change to a oil with lower or no zink. If your going to get on it past 5000 rpm at least 5-7x a day or more, I'd go with the 50 viscosity. It is a no brained. Fyi, oils don't have weights, it is viscosity. The first number is the cold air temp for a thinner easier cold start, but if your not in below freezing (32*) hardly but a a week or two a year goto a 10w40 or 50. It will not affect power or performance, just mpg's will go down a bit. Also, Fords oils show a 8-10 point drop in viscosity after 1100-1300 miles after wash change. Another good resale. To upgrade it at least to a 5w30.

[@danbaltizar6346]

My information comes from a guy that knows these cars and Mustang Engineers. Two of these Engineers have a new 5.0 and use the 5w50 and 10w50

[@351kostakis]

I’m from Sydney Australia I’m following every video you’re producing. I think it’s excellent what you do my order should be coming in February next year thanks for all your help and great work looking forward to more videos from you Nick

[@Zander13Productions]

very welcome and hope you get your car sooner than FEB. 😊🙏

[@Zander13Productions]

and thank you for all of your support

[@eliaskostakis6489]

chris kostakis yasou!

[@mikehawk120]

We have the same sense of humor, love it.

Here's the deal. Ford doesn't sleeve the 5.0 any longer. They spray a coating into the bored out block then they hone and put the pistons in, and piston slap is normal. I use a 5w 50 full synthetic (Mobil One), and a bottle of rislone. Tick, gone. -- I drive it very hard daily, and even more crazy at the track. -- 2019 GT, JLT Cold air, Borla long tube stainless headers, full 3 inch stainless to the back. Bama 93, and E85 tune, 510 hp to the back wheels. It's over 100 degrees at the track on some days so I use the thickest oil allowed (5w 50) and let her warm up good before driving anywhere, which gets the oil to the top. The Engine is a damn beast and loves abuse. 3350 miles on it so far, no issues. Don't be scared! lol j/k, Enjoy, and know that the dual over head 32 valve 5.0, makes noise, it's the nature of the beast and at least you can do things to remedy. Great video, thank you.

[@Zander13Productions]

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[@gc461]

If you have the tick all you have to do is add CERATEC Liquid Molly it goes away immediately the day you add it.

[@geofillingame2335]

great choice i to use 5w30 mobile one in my 2015 mustang, car looks good glad its fixed!

[@Jamko1970]

My 2018 also had a typewriter random tick at cold start, when warmed up it went away. Got rid of the 5W-20 Motorcraft oil put in Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 and tick is completely gone.

[@Zander13Productions]

Good. That’s what I like to hear

[@RevengeWP]

Except that I just did that exact thing with PUP 5W30 at 1300 miles and now the tick is not only still there but now there is a slight rattle when you slightly rev the engine. Only when it's still cold. When its fully warmed up it goes away.

[@mrjafs4616]

jammko1970 hows your car now bro?

[@hectorrodriguez431]

@@RevengeWP does it still do that?

[@RevengeWP]

@@hectorrodriguez431 I honestly don't know. I sold it earlier this year. Didn't want to find out what was in store for me down the road.

[@amazoidal]

I agree with the change to 5-30 for performance use. Here in San Diego, where it hardly ever goes below 50 degrees, we can run 10-30. The terms:"Full Synthetic", "100% Synthetic" and "Synthetic" mean nothing in the United States. They have no legal meaning and are simply marketing terms. API defines synthetic oils as Group 3, Group 4, and Group 5. Group 5 is for Jet engines and has PAO and Polyol Ester base. Lots. Group 4 has a PAO base and only 3 brands are made in the U.S.: Royal Purple, AMSOIL Signature and REDLINE. All the rest, including Pennzoil Platinum, any Mobil 1 and the way overpriced Castrol Edge, are Group 3 which means derived from Hydrocracked Dino oil or from Natural Gas. Group 3 has no synthetic base, so it is inferior to Group 4 at higher temps. If you race, tow or have a turbo, use Group 4 . All "Synthetic oil" was Group 4 before 1997, when Castrol removed the PAO base and hydrocracked Dino Oil and got to call it synthetic. Exxon-Mobil sued Castrol for using the name"Synthetic" on Syntec but lost and since then, any molecularly-modified oil or Natural-gas derived and modified oil can be called synthetic. Be sure not to pay Group 4 price for a Group 3 oil. The oil companies won't tell you which synthetic oils are Group 3 and Group 4. Neither will API. You are being fooled.Until now. If an oil is labeled "Synthetic" and it's made in Germany or Japan, it must be Group 4 by law. Like Motul. Sorry to rile up the Mobil 1 fanboys, but Mobil 1 was downgraded to Group 3 years ago. And one other thing. Oil company sponsored race cars do not use the synthetic oil you buy at Pep Boys. It's a super Group 4 or 5 with no detergent and anything else that would make it last 10,000 miles. They don't put those additives in because it only has to last one race. So the closest thing you can buy to that custom race oil is a Group 4 Synthetic - the 3 brands above. If you race, tow or have a turbo, use only a Group 4. If you can only afford Group 3, or if Group 3 is all you need, Walmart sells Supertech Synthetic for about $17.99 for 5 quarts, and it meets GM Dexos and all other API approvals so why pay $9.00 a quart for Group 3 Castrol Edge? The same goes for so-called "Synthetic" ATF. You have the $25.00 a gallon Group 3 and the $50.00 a gallon real Synthetic Group 4 : Redline, Amsoil and Royal Purple.

[@troyvan6952]

Great info... thanks

[@renedelafuente123]

So which one do you recommend for a 2017 Ford Mustang Gt? Of course ford recommends motorcraft 5w-30. Thanks any feedback appreciated.

[@diecast118scale7]

Mobil did not sue Castrol, that is a huge misconception, Mobil filed a complaint with the National Advertising Division (NAD) that oversees advertising, Mobil explained the difference between a Group III hydrocracked oil and a true Synthetic Group IV PAO and Group V Ester based oil. Castrol argued that because they hydrocracked the Group III conventional oil removing more of the contaminates from it that it magically became synthetic oil. Sadly NAD sided with Castrol and people are now paying synthetic oil prices for Group III conventional oil. Even sadder is the API just blindly followed along, both NAD and the API should be ashamed of themselves for the disservice they did to consumers. There are two ways to tell a Group III oil being sold as a synthetic, the first is they will only list it as synthetic on the bottle they won't say it is Group IV PAO or Group V Ester. The other way to tell is to look at the Safety Data Sheet, if it says petroleum on it then it is Group III conventional oil labeled as synthetic.

[@Noneyurbusiness]

Thank you for the info

[@dennishilligoss7386]

Thanks for the chemistry lesson.

[@lapjohn7172]

Well, hat's off to you. I've watched countless videos where guys put the filter on dry. I was taught a long time ago by a Master Mechanic. You want to fill your filter with fresh oil when changing filters.

[@MKZ1945]

I have a 2020 GT PP1 that has both direct injection and port injection that Ford went to in 2018. This sort of eliminated the need for the catch can that many of us had on the earlier mustangs. In regards to the engine tick thing, I’ve noticed it when I first start the engine but in seems to go away after the engine warms up. I also went from 5W-20 to 5W-30 because I tend to challenge the backloads that have the hills and tight corners while in Sport + mode. I know some folks claim the engine tick when away when going to a higher viscosity oil but I did not notice any change going from 20 to 30. I have actually blamed the tick on the 32 valve overhead cam system as it sounded similar to what I heard with vehicles I had with solid lifters that I had to adjust occasionally. There seems to be a lot of mystery regarding the issue, if it is one, and piston slap is probably the best explanation, but I’m not losing any sleep over it.

[@deanwinchester119]

Next time you do an oil change try 9qts whatever oil you use with 1qt synthetic Lucas oil stabilizer and see how it does after a few miles. Tick should go away

[@tnitron9750]

My oil of choice Pennzoil Platinum This stuff is liquid gold buttery smooth. Great VOA too. Yes all oil will shear down from 20 so 5w30 is a good idea. I only use motorcraft filters though for the VVT system. Walmart sells these 5 qt. bottles around here for $22.

[@amazoidal]

Still only a Group 3 oil. And you are paying Group 4 prices for mere Group 3. PP is made from Natural Gas or Dino oil. Group 4 has a real syn base -PAO. That's REDLINE, Royal Purple or AMSOIL Signature.

[@ericd1632]

@@amazoidal those three you just mentioned are all $10 a quart if not more. The Pennzoil is less than half that.

[@amazoidal]

It depends if you need a Group 4 oil. Actually, AMSOIL and Redline are a blend of Group 4 and 5. Probably Royal Purple as well. Personally, I use Amazon Basic, Walmart Super Syn or MAG 1, all the same and made by Warren. SN+. But I don't race, tow or run a turbo. If I did, I would go the top 3 brands. Much better flash point.

[@400hpmustang]

Generally an oil filter only needs about 3/4 of a turn. Tighten till it starts to bite then roughly 1/2-3/4 of a turn. It doesn't need 1 or 2 turns.

[@MormonMustang_]

I'm a nervous wreck every time i change the oil in my mustang. I dont trust the jack stands. I leave the floor jack under it too for extra support.. I NEVER would do a header job on jack stands like you have. Scares the piss out of me being under my car on stands for some reason. Still running 5w20 mobil 1 syn EP here in my 2012 to get back on topic with 54,000 miles. Mid 11 car, bolt on, NA.

[@codyisarat]

Race ramps and wood blocks with tires chalked. I have a c6 vette so its an even worse skull crusher.

[@saauuzza]

Yes wood blocks or bricks put that under the tyres. Make sure the transmission is in P and the hand brake is pulled. You will also need wheel chocks so that is 3 things to stop your car rolling back. Make sure you do it on flat surface too.

[@whatswrong598]

Tappedurassout I have double locking jack stands so it eases my conscience... also what mods do you have, mid 11’s is solid

[@MormonMustang_]

@@whatswrong598 thanks. .. steeda cai, steeda aluminum 1 piece driveshaft, full steeda suspension, circle d 4c, cat delete, nitto drag radials. Tuned on 93 gas.

[@woodboat3G]

Guy at work took a week to die after his vehicle fell on him. Brain damage from lack of oxygen

[@dennisthespeedmenace7530]

Been watching and great info had a 2016 Fusion sport and got wreaked into 5 months later and three years later it started having water in my rear floor! Inches of water! I traded it in 5 days ago for my 19’ gt Velocity Blue 10 speed! Great channel bro! Loving the auto by the way! Thanks for the advice

[@Zander13Productions]

That new blue is so good looking. Congratulations on the new mustang and getting the best transmission

[@chadrichardson8588]

2 things I've learned doing oil changes on my 2018. 1, I always remove the whole plastic cover before removing the filter because I don't like oil all over that cover. 2, as you saw in the video when you remove the drain plug the oil jets out fast! Make sure your drain pan can handle the flow and I use a small piece of sheet metal as a back stop to stop the splash. I'm curious if anyone has a better solution to prevent splashing oil on the floor?

[@matthewhartup941]

I use a large open top pan. I pull the plug out just a hair and keep it in contact with the drain hole, you can ease it out ever so slightly and control the flow that way. It's easy... I typically don't get a single drop on my garage floor.

[@turbotheamericanstaffy]

Hold the drain pan up to the sump plug at a 45 degree angle as you pull the plug out. Then lower it down to ground level as it fills. Also have a drain pan that can hold 18 quarts or more.

[@1955gaylord]

Use a large zip lock bag when you change the oil filter , no muss , no fuss , no mess .

[@rogeliosoto6953]

Put a piece of cardboard under your catch pan. Aim as best as you can. Then throw it away.

[@Californiakev]

I have a 2023 Mach 1 when I got my oil change outside the dealer no tick, today I got my oil change at the dealer. I get home and I hear ticking 🤦‍♂️

[@madmotorhead9425]

I like ester based synthetic oils, I will probably run mutol xess 5w30 in mine. It clings to parts so no dry startups. Good video.

[@deanwinchester119]

So does Lucas oil stabilizer

[@silver5.0machine20]

Ditto Zander, I'm going to do the same thing my next oil change

[@bl4d3runn3rX]

All coyotes have the BBQ or type writer tick. I fixed mine with Ceratec. Next oil change is due, will but in 7,5 quarts mobile 1 5w20 and 600ml Ceratec, maybe a little less.

[@HikingwithTurtle]

I'm going to use Ceratec too when I do my first oil change with Amsoil engine oil.

[@jonpeterson5534]

did not fix covered up

[@dandeac1907]

If the engine comes from factory with wrong tolerance on bearings (rods and main) will have problems sooner or later. Ford need some professionals people on engines assembly lines.

[@jgabrielr9977]

I plan on buying a 2020 Mustang Gt. I don’t have a heavy foot and will only use it on my weekends. Should i stick with MobilOne full synthetic 5w20?

[@carstuff4u942]

I think you are completely correct in choosing 5 W 30 weight motor oil. The people that are using 5w 50 weight motor oil scare me. I think that is too heavy of a weight of oil. I had a 4.6 L Mustang and you had to run the oil weight that Ford told you to. The people that were running heavier weight oils in those engines ruin the top end. When Ford made the clearances for oil when it got too thick it couldn't get to the top end and destroy itself. I worked at a Ford dealership and we saw many 4.6 L V8 get destroyed because of the oil weight that was used. I'm just afraid running a 5w 50 might do the same to these new coyote engines.

[@Zander13Productions]

I would only go the heavy if boosted. for na cars, 5-50 is too thick

[@MormonMustang_]

Run what the owner's manual says to run and Ford can't blame you for shit when it goes boom.

[@tempestxmen7824]

My 2014 GT premium asks for 05w50 do to the premium Package. Be careful from the dealer, if you don’t actually see them put the oil in, they will place a cheaper lower oil in the engine, my engine. Three time they place 05w20(2), 05w30(1) on my engine that requires the 05w50. Shady bastard, fare warning to all followers, watch the dealership during your oil changes to make sure there putting in the right oil in your vehicles and i was paying premium, they will not order the 05w50 at the dealer cause of the cause and 9quarts. Make sure you see the bottle when empty. Foo for thought to all mustangs owner, the dealer is not your friend, they will screw u , if they feel that they can get away with it. Glad you got your stand back. Looking great.

[@michaelharris748]

Why would having sync and leather seats and better stereo have anything to do with engine oil used? Premium or base should have nothing to do with what kind of oil you use lol...id be weary of any dealer that tells you that

[@SMPlayerSlayer]

I noticed that you didn't check the stick after running the engine. You need to do that because after it fills the filter all the way the level could reduce to at or below the 1qt low line, especially if you only filled 9.5 quarts (hence why the oil was in the middle of the safe zone (half quart low) vs at the full line) before you even started the engine.

[@Zander13Productions]

Yes I need to do that

[@SMPlayerSlayer]

Lookin out for you brother, hope your engine has a long life in it.

[@davea4037]

Funny how ford flipped on the oil weights for 22-23. My 22 gt calls for 5w-30 for normal use and and 5w-20 for track use. Makes me wonder if they actually changed something like the piston rings.

[@primofx2sport]

I put 5w50 motorcraft synthetic in my 2019 gt. The engine rattle at 2k rpm present. It's also roush supercharged.

[@franky1528]

Took it to the dealer at 2700 for the oil change, at 4100 rn and no tick

[@Zander13Productions]

you should be in the clear

[@franky1528]

Zander13 yay, I love you. I mean thank you*

[@Zander13Productions]

❤️😍😁🙏

[@Takandrius]

For the record, I got the tick before the oil change, oil changed after 4700 miles due to tick... made it worse... getting a new short block on the 24th... hope it helps, according to forums the tick in itself is not bad... it's due to the oil put in it... its if it progresses or starts to rattle, that's when it gets bad.

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

Justin Elkins mine had rattled since day 1 now with 2700 miles it’s getting loud

[@Takandrius]

@@underfedcoyote5.022 take it in for the rattle, my rattle was about 1700 rpm to 2300 rpm.

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

Mine is there to they hear it won’t fix it. They say they need a recall which I am thinking of taking to another dealer

[@Takandrius]

@@underfedcoyote5.022 my dealer is sceptical of the short block fix... but that's what ford wants to do.

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

Justin Elkins my buddy’s if you listen to his car on My site they replaced his short block at 10k N now has 16k An the noise is coming back but he tuned the car An ford won’t touch it now. I love these cars just beware of your mods fords assholes

[@804speed7]

Just subscribed! Like your stuff. The ford dealer here in VA tells me the 5w20 is mainly used because it’s easier to meet emissions regulations. I’ve switched to 5w30 and haven’t noticed a loss in gas mileage or performance.

[@Zander13Productions]

yes, its mostly for CA emissions. Welcome to the channel

[@belals8123]

U have to remove the car from jack before close the oil plug and filter , because some oil in the back of the engine, u left it only from front, should be level. Good luck

[@danielzamudio9658]

Just got an oil change a couple days ago and since then I’ve been hearing a tick noise

[@deathvalleydemon41]

Dude same I actually am going to take my 2019 Ford gt 10R80 to the dealership next week and have them do a full diagnostic on the car to make sure it’s not piston slap or metals within the oil

[@streetridaz]

Good luck brother. Hope you don't have to deal with the crap I'm dealing with.

[@Zander13Productions]

I know. I hope you get yours figured out soon.

[@victorrippe5845]

Mine is a 2023 it has never tic with 18k I do have all my oil changes done in ford

[@vernonhammer2871]

I have a 2019 with PP1 53000 mi. only used full synythetic oil, no ticks.

[@1970jstone]

Thank you! I've never changed my own oil before. It looks simple.

[@Zander13Productions]

Yes very

[@toddc.2029]

I've got the DI tick and it drives me crazy

[@jimthigpen333]

You should leave the jack engaged to the frame incase the jackstand slips . Metal on metal is very slippery !

[@The570Experience]

Not recommended by anybody....never use the Jack as a safety...he did fine with the jackstands

[@Snow-Dog2112]

Good video, thanks! However, ticking from the bottom of the motor (aka the infamous BBQ Tick / Typewriter Noise) is not piston slap. It has to do with the crankshaft. The tick is from a bearing clearance issue (too much clearance) on the crank or a rod. Nothing else makes a ticking sound in the bottom end. 2019 Mustang GT w/ 200-miles and have the BBQ tick already.

[@Zander13Productions]

Oh very good to know

[@Snow-Dog2112]

Just trying to share as much information as possible regarding the BBQ Tick. Replacing motors/short blocks, etc., doesn't help, as the sound comes back after the repair/replacement because it's a design flaw. Until it's rectified, there is no fix in the pipeline. It is an enigma, as It appears that some owners don't get the tick until higher mileage or maybe not at all, and that may be due to them not knowing much about engines and the sounds that are normal opposed to abnormal. But, many have it right off the lot like myself or after the 1st oil change, as did a few of my friends who just did their 1st oil changes on their 19's and the tick started immediately after that. We were told that Ford puts an additive in the engine to curtail the tick prior to sale. That would explain why many owners hear it directly after the 1st oil change. Good luck with your Stang!

[@Jamko1970]

Ford only puts Motorcraft 5W-20. Thats It! No additive.

[@Snow-Dog2112]

How do you know what they do at the factory?!

[@Jamko1970]

I would know... Only oil goes in, Motorcraft 5W-20.

[@JaviF2007]

Awesome video and I appreciate the comedy too.

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

My Dads stock 2018 Blacked out GT has the “Tick”. He brought it to 3 dealerships & all Dealerships said it was the new High Pressure Fuel Pumps on the 2018’s that Tick

[@Bobbybeb]

My 2019 does not have the oil filter panel door. I have to remove 4 bolts and the plastic panel to access the filter.

[@mauricioorellana1401]

Do I lose my car warranty if i put 5w30?

[@Zander13Productions]

No

[@darreno1450]

Not sure if was mentioned already, but do-it-yourselfers should hold on to all receipts and keep a log of all changes in case any warranty issues arise. I loved doing my own oil changes, but these days, I let the dealer do them to avoid any hassle. The issue with the tick is that there seems to be no single identifiable root cause yet. Or there might be multiple causes. Also, Ford is pretty silent about it and their techs are all over the place in terms of diagnosis. In some cases, it doesn't seem to cause any real damage and in others, cylinder scoring shows up and metal particles are seen in the oil. Like you, I wouldn't worry too much about a tick that goes away when the engine is warm. Anyway, good vid.

[@Zander13Productions]

agreed. document everything in case there is a warranty fight for sure

[@woodboat3G]

I am not arguing at all but the official response is as follows:::5W-30 Versus 5W-205W-30 and 5W-20 motor oil both feature the same winter rating. This means that both grades exhibit the same viscosity under cold conditions. However, 5W-30 features a slightly higher viscosity at 100 degrees Celsius than does 5W-20. This means that once the engine reaches normal operating temperature, 5W-30 oil will be thicker than 5W-20. Due to the increased resistance of the thicker 5W-30 oil, your engine will produce slightly lower fuel economy and horsepower output. You also risk engine damage when using 5W-30 instead of 5W-20, as the internal engine components are specifically designed to be used with 5W-20 motor oil.

[@biom9]

Robert Meehan finally someone who understands different oils. You beat me to it, perfect response.

[@MormonMustang_]

When Steeda told me they run 5w20 in all of their race cars , I never looked back. I've beat the shit out of my mid 11 bolt on 2012gt for 54,000 miles and have never even had a check engine light . I was going to change to 5w30 after hearing all of the "oil pros" on forums talk about independent testing and 5w20 only being on the shelves because of California emissions. Steeda said if 5w20 works in their cars, it will works on mine just fine, I didnt worry. Remember , Steeda one of the only tuners that never blew a #8 cylinder when the coyote first started getting tunes in 2011 . I trust their word and have watched them install all of my suspension at their valdosta , Ga facility. Top Notch company. ..I dont work for steeda lol

[@BC08]

There is zero risk of engine damage from running a 5W-30. The same engine recommends 5W-50 with a different suspension/oil cooler package. There are no engine clearance differences between the two. 5W-30 is perfectly acceptable, is stated to be acceptable in the owner’s manual, stop stop spreading bunk info.

[@woodboat3G]

@@BC08 nice... So what are the main and rod clearances? What is the thickness of the 5w 30 in relation to the crank? Are there any other passages that couls be atarved for oil if it is too thick to flow? I personally do not know. I use what is recommended for my car by the manufacturer

[@BC08]

Robert Meehan Robert Meehan The main clearances are .0009-.0012” as they have been on aluminum block Modulars since 1993. Rod clearances run about .0019”. There are metered oil leaks to feed the timing chains from the oil pump housing, primary chain tensions and secondary chain tensioners. These metered orifice hole diameters are universal to all Coyotes, and aren’t altered for 5W-50 track pack applications. The same goes for the cam lobes, again a metered feed to the cam lobe through the lash adjuster/followers. Again no change for the track pack 5W-50 cars. A 50-weight oil @ 100deg C will make it though much less than a .0001” clearance. Ford specs the oil based on intended oil temp, they expect cars on a road course to develop much higher oil temps than a DD, and this spec a much heavier 5W-50 to combat those higher oil temps. Engines aren’t that sensitive to oil viscosity, if you truly realized the range every engine has to deal with @ 0 deg versus 210 deg (even with the same exact oil, say a 5W-20) is an exponentially wider viscosity range than a 5W-20 and a 5W-50 both at 210 deg. If you doubt this claim, pull up a PDS and input the values into a KV calculator: oil-additives.evonik.com/product/oil-additives/resources/viscosity-index-en.html

[@shabouga]

So at 3:44 you said you have a typewriter ticking underneath the car on cold starts. Well, isn't that exactly the ticking everyone is taking about? Cold start ticking, goes away when it warms up etc etc . Thats what I had, and ford replaced my engine and now the new engine does it too.

[@Zander13Productions]

No. All these cars tick on cold. If it’s warmed up and doing it then it’s an issue. Ford still replacing your engine. So cold ticking is still bad?

[@shabouga]

Here is my story - Car ticked for first 10 minutes of driving. Showed the dealership and they replaced my short block. They never looked in the engine and ford didn't ask any questions. New engine ticks less, but exactly the same way, and I suspect it will get worse after a few thousand miles. I don't think the car should tick on cold starts. I think its a defect that all the cars have.

[@shabouga]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2qYpXSZac2lpsk&frags=pl%2Cwn here is one example. Its happening in varying degrees. Mine got a little worse within the first 4000 miles. New block does is too. LESS, but its there and I think will get worse within the next 5000 miles. We'll see

[@chriszavala1145]

ShaunTV my 17 gt pp has that same tick after every oil change( has 22k miles on it now) but goes away when it’s at operating temp and goes away completely after 500ish miles

[@handle25745]

Thanks bro for this video, this was exactly what I was looking for.

[@Zander13Productions]

Very welcome

[@porsche5k]

Thank you! Very helpful and straightforward video.

[@Atownclayco]

I got the tick in my 16 pp1 at 30k miles with 5w20 mobile one …. My engine tech advised me to switch to motorcraft 5w50 …. Took the tick away completely.

[@mileshiles1287]

Good to see your staying with manufacturers recommendations for warranty. Hope to see you in Kentucky.

[@Zander13Productions]

absolutely

[@CONTENDER791]

If you live in Hot weather states like Forida you should run 5W30 .

[@davidmandziuk8493]

Tolerances are tighter on these newer engines. I run 0W-30 . Amsoil after break in

[@RSDX99]

I am on my third Ford with Coyote power and so far no strange engine noises. 2012 GT, 2017 F150, and now 2021 GT. I have been a new Ford owner since 1964 and I always wait until 1000 miles and then change oil and filter. (don't care what the manual says) I also wait until 1000 miles before driving it hard and then another 1000 before I hit the rev limiter. The 2021 manual says W5-30 instead of the previous 5-20 oil. I have also read that Ford changed the valve lash adjuster with a larger bleed hole and maybe that is the reason to up to 30 wt. Just guessing. I do know one thing, setting 1/4 mile records as you leave the dealership the first day is not the proper way to break in an engine. The factory runs new engines they don't break them in. Anybody who has ever had an engine built in a race engine shop knows that good shops will break in and tune your engine on the dyno, prior to track use.

[@VS-gq2mv]

What kind of jack are you using and also are you using jacking rails? I need to buy a jack as I want to do my own oil changes.

[@400hpmustang]

14 GT here, 16k miles, haven't experienced this tick, running MC 5w20 Syn Blend.

[@daniellecarriedo3099]

Hello and thanks for the video! Just bought the oil and filter for my 2021 Gt and after watching your video, I purchased 5w20. I popped the hood when I was ready to change the oil and noticed the cap states 5w30.... should I return the 5w20? I'm in Southern California and doing her first oil change at 5100 since getting her

[@Zander13Productions]

Definitely use 5w30

[@matthewhartup941]

No tool is necessary to remove the plastic drain plug. It's designed to be turned by hand, lefty loosy righty tighty. And it doesn't hurt to replace the plug every so often being it has an O ring. The Gen 3 coyote GT engine was designed to run on 5w20. Its not necessary to jack up the passenger side of the car if you are using a jack and stand. You only need to jack the driver side (behind the K member) to have easy access to the oil filter and drain plug. Lower the car back down level to get all of the used oil possible of the pan, and jack it back up to reinstall the plug (probably overkill but I do that). Use a large open style drian pain to prevent making a mess on your garage floor.

[@ketch5643]

Great video! I've always changed my oil every 3000 miles ( back in the dinosaur days) but definitely synthetic now! I've also done the first oil change on a new car after the first 1000 miles......my GT will hit that tomorrow so I'm staying with the Motorcraft oil filter and like you 5w30 but instead I'm sticking with Mobil 1 advance synthetic and also I like to change it at 4000 miles.

[@marceloc2170]

Hey Zander13 thanx again. I appreciate all the advice and opinions! My 18 is completely stock 1,600 miles on it. I have been to 3 dealers here in NJ they refuse to acknowledge that there is something wrong! Cold engine sounds like it has a knock which I’m convinced is piston slap. Very disappointed ☹️

[@Zander13Productions]

keep the faith. Ford knows that there are issues. I know it will be a fight.

[@weekendtroll1637]

Trying not to loose my cool because I knew it was a gamble. I took delivery of my $70,000 2019hellion twin turbo speck 2 three days ago. I was informed the oil was changed with Ford synthetic blend 5w-50. I have 150 miles on the car (125 on it when I picked it up). I have been a backyard mechanic all my life. The car clearly has the typewriter tick from the oil pan. With no warranty. Have you heard of anyone with the tick not having to rebuild? Thank you.

[@Zander13Productions]

All I can say about the tick is that NO engines have blown because of it.... to my knowledge anyway. It’s just an annoying thing. Mine has no tick

[@kellybuerschinger5767]

Is it the same procedure for a 2021 GT?

[@08turboSS]

Your going to need to use 5w/50. It was standard in my 2014 Track Pack 5.0 which never saw the track. It never ticked. My 2013 was a base 5.0 with the 5w20. It ticked. I switched it out to 5w50 after 15k miles and 95% no tick. There is no such thing as the oil weight. Its called viscosity. The first number (left to right) is a 0, 5, 10, 20. That's the winter temp minimums. The 20, 30, 40, 50 is viscosity and the higher the viscosity for higher heat and performance oriented driving. Ford went the cheap route in an effort to save $$ and went to all low viscosity. Ford assumes the climate is the same all over as it is in Detroit. Turbo cars have a 30 or 40 viscosity because of high heat... Oil thins as it gets hot. I am in a tx near desert like climate. Temps are 104-112° from May to Oct and rarely goes below 38° at night in the winter so I do not need a viscosity for cold 4 season type climates which is a 0w20/30 or 5w20/5w30 or 10w20/10w30. The 20 is is better for cold starts, 30 is average and 40 or 50 is best for very warm to hot climates. If ypu have 4 seasons, use a 5 or 10w30, then go to a w50 in summer, especially if you get on the loud pedal at least a few times a day in the warmer temps. The old BOSS of 2012-2013, the Track Pack and Brembo Packs of 2012-2014, GT350 from 2010-2014 and the GT500 2008 to 2014 all used 5w50. Basically in layman's terms, if you plan on driving rather spirited more than 50%, per week and over 4000 rpm, in temps above 65°, use the 5w50.

[@steveperez4647]

Same thing for a 2016?

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

This came back up an was reading my old comments an know it’s reality. My car is now being bought back because of the tick. Good luck to all you guys thinking the tick is normal. In my case the tick was real an went full knock. Also I lost my 10r 80 they are not a strong as many think. Many mustangs an f150 coyotes are having issues. But keep adding your additives an living with fords garbage.

[@songsjj]

Are the 2022 the same?

[@SpoolingUpPerformance]

Good video man

[@JohnWick-ud4ye]

Does this apply for 2017 mustang gt as well ?

[@Zander13Productions]

No

[@Jonathan1003]

My 2019 GT has some ticking noise when the car is really cold but afterwards it’s completely fine which is weird

[@Zander13Productions]

same here

[@SwissGTO]

Mine too. Cold start ticks, after couple miles no tick anymore. Is that good or bad?

[@Jonathan1003]

I made a video on my channel of the sound I’m having is it similar to yours ?

[@chriszavala1145]

Jonathan Pena mine has that tick after an oil change but goes away after i put about 500ish miles on it

[@michaelharris748]

If tick goes away you should be fine...di engines make noise when cold even more so i have a 16 fiesta st that little 1.6 EcoBoost is tough im making 100 whp more than stock (x37 hybrid modified stock turbo full bolt on e30 tune) so im familiar with a di engine now but not before i bought this car

[@SupremeVsuals]

In warm temps use 10-30 in cold temps use 5:30

[@Tominator313]

NO!

[@jimdailey1985]

Try castrol edge 5w30 next time.y triton 3 value loves it.

[@michaeldinger284]

Awesome video as usual! How would you feel about doing a quick night time video of Project Carnage? I would love to see how everything looks at night - the interior with all the ambient lighting and the digital clusters..as well as what the exterior lighting is like especially with the tint..the looks of the headlights and tail lights....etc..I know I don’t have to tell you what to show you are obviously very capable of putting out fantastic videos..keep up the great work!!

[@Zander13Productions]

I can do that. a quick video

[@ironbull2003]

This is funny thing. I just watched at Cj pony's video on their gen 2 5.0 oil change and when they went to reset the computer and theirs was at 54% as well.

[@gian-lucbrasseur207]

Good choice changing to synthetic

[@08turboSS]

There's far to many 5.0's that have had the infamous "tic" since 2005 and not many were recalled, just TSB'd. Theres thousands of 5.0's just from 2018-2020 with a tic running 11's and high 10's, so I tell potentisl or new 5.0 folks not to worry about it. I hope you run mid 9's at 140+. You should hit that range with 800 rwhp/685rwtq.

[@chrissanchez9218]

Whats the deal with pennzoil at the bottom is says “dexos1” and then at bottom of that says “gm approved gen3” could I use that in 2020 mustang Gt? That threw me off

[@FIXR7]

You guy's have it easy with changing the oil filter...the right hand drive ones have no room because of the right hook rack.

[@Zander13Productions]

Oh wow 😮

[@ifGarage]

Would 5W-30 be good for daily driving? I don’t drive hard but I would like some extra protection on my engine.

[@Zander13Productions]

Yes

[@quikgt]

My family has several cars from from different makes that spec 20w oil and I NEVER use it, only a 30w or higher. These are high performance engines that are mostly driven hard; why use an oil that is specified because of fuel economy standards! Plus I never use the dealer bulk oil that is sometimes recycled. However I will use a 0 or 5 w first # for winter cold starts.

[@JimmehFG2]

So 9 1/2 qts?

[@adair4544]

Thank You for the informative information! Video very well done keep them coming!

[@tb12269]

Great video Zander! Hopefully get my car back in a few days!

[@Zander13Productions]

Thanks, hope so too

[@tb12269]

Got car back today and no tick so we will see

[@cerebral36]

Since you did this informative video, could you do another one about the "break-in" period on a new car? I'm getting my 18 GT PP2 soon, and would like to properly break the engine in. Would love to see a video on it since your car is at just under 4K miles.

[@Zander13Productions]

sure thing