2018 BMW M4 CS ULTIMATE REVIEW *Sports Car*

[@MrWhiteguy6]

I really appreciate the lack of music in your videos, let the engine make the music and you do the talking. That's all I need! Great video!

[@strongerandwiser2023]

That has to be the best looking m4 I have ever seen. The GTS for me is just too much but this.... THIS is perfection.

[@JM-wi7jj]

Did Joe not know what tyres the car had before he went to that destination 😅

[@mbp1505]

Was watching SOL (hard work) and then got your notification Joe. Thank you. I think I'm going to enjoy this.

[@tonyross5829]

BMW’s are so driver focused, love it

[@henzo7087]

@@robertolombardi3698 Yep true

[@Youtubedotcomma]

Who needs watered down car content like top gear, grand tour, when you can get videos like this! 20mins of detailed information and great creative content!!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Haha cheers man! Considering I do everything myself on a relative shoe string budget, it does make you wonder... That's not meant to sound big headed, just wish I had 1% of Top Gear budget 😂👌

[@BimmerTV]

I agree 100%

[@Schwabz33]

Hey Joe, what a time back then right just exploring Bmw‘s models and what it used to be and this is one of my favorite videos that you made.

[@shayneliburd5043]

Thank you Joe!!! People never talk about what happens when those brakes get wet! It is very dangerous and i think manufacturers should inform and educate their consumers about this issue!

[@rejoicerone3176]

Joe Ur so flipping good at reviewing cars without sounding boring unlike some so called motoring journalists... Ur enthusiasm and level detail u go into describing a car feels to drive is almost Chris Harris like!... Keep at it!...EVO pls hire Joe!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thank you thank you thank you sir! Glad you like my stuff man 👊

[@rejoicerone3176]

Joe Achilles u need to somehow get into EVO and bring that channel back to life again... It was so flipping good when Jethro and team was on

[@goodshoes07]

Sounds like it has most of the same problems in daily driving as my standard M4 but with a nicer bonnet and prettier rear lights. Maybe the advantages of the CS are purely track based which makes this a very expensive track toy. Looks awesome but then so do all M4's. Great review and nice editing!

[@wilberstarz8736]

I think I'm of a similar mindset. Extra £25k for a carbon bonnet and some nice wheels. Followed by a lot less premium comforts. Doesn't seem worth it.

[@zemekiel]

Love the intro, love the roads, love the car, but most of all I appreciate the honest and down to earth opinions. You simply don't get that on many other channels. Great stuff Joe!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks man, yeah I try to be as honest as possible 👌

[@mgcharoudin]

Big part of the extra price went into the bonnet - yep, they are over 8k if you want to buy them separately. Love the overall appearance tho!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Ahh I thought it was something like that! Thanks for war hing legend 👊

[@Cathrozar]

4.5k brand new, with the extra gas trust you need total is around €4650-4700,-

[@MrSuperrajab]

still better than my Rcf they want $13k for the carbon hood

[@overlooker3656]

Misha Charoudin true. thing is, carbon fiber body panels aren't that hard to make if you've got the patience

[@jalloor]

Joe Achilles seen you in a M3cs in Misha's video can we expect a review on that soon?

[@StuHNomadBiker]

Great review, well out of my price range but one can dream, so good to see a car from one of these channels being driven out on proper roads rather than messing about at 20 mph in London or like you say, constantly being wrapped 💤💤... I go down there on the bike every summer, all over, Alps, Pyrenees, Norway ... Spain ... fantastic roads all over 👍🏼

[@BimmerTV]

You can always rent one for a couple days!

[@paulgreenhill8368]

love your reviews Joe. Your enthusiasm for the M'lites encouraged me to go for a M140 shadow, which I took delivery of last week and it's best car I've ever had

[@JoeAchilles1]

Great to hear Paul! Thanks for watching my stuff, people like your good self gave gotten me to where I am... 👌

[@joecooper3073]

It sounds so good being driven like that, an engine like that is all about the low rev burbles. Great review👍

[@tyrereviews]

I love that colour! Great video!

[@tan9640]

Best sports cars? Porsche and BMW without a doubt. Another top video joe

[@BimmerTV]

:D

[@m.r.a.c.m]

Quality review of a quality car. Love the cinematography, very premium feel, keep up the good work Joe!

[@sergiubancos]

That moment when you're waiting for Joe's videos just like I used to when Chris Harris would get a new one out before he joined Top Gear. Just mega, Joe, cheers!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Massive compliment buddy thank you!!! 👌

[@olliemeaton8360]

Great video. This is how I like reviews being made; no music, being able to hear the car and an opinion coming from a proper petrol head. 👍🏻

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks Ollie 👌👊

[@gregularexpressions]

Great to see BMW finally hook you up Joe! Some sick static drone shots too mate.

[@anastasiosmellios3532]

Great review Joe and great scenery.Professional and honest as always!

[@jlnmlng8372]

Can’t believe this video is 4 years old..Really love this car. Thank you Joe! 🍀🙏🏽

[@adabro]

Great video as always, Joe! Some of those views and sounds were incredible and really well captured. The comment about wrapping was also a nice touch!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Cheers man, had to be said haha

[@bmw_m140i_aus7]

I'm seriously late to this video Joe but had to say your review was great as usual. 👍 👍👍 That looks like a real M car should: tough and lustworthy. Those roads look epic too Joe and I'm sure you loved every minute of that review.

[@ikes19]

Nice video. The best BMW reviewer on KZbin IMO!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Huge compliment, really appreciate it buddy 👌✌

[@GTI_CHHA]

The brake problem you mentioned is interesting, I am amazed that it's there. Most cars, at least all VAG models, have an automatic brake drying function which works like this: whenever the wipers are activated, the car "knows" that it's raining and will then apply the brakes very shortly, just to wipe of the excess water from the discs. The brakes pressure applied is so light that you can't notice it but it works perfectly, keeping the brakes in good working order, ready to bite. With VCDS (used to be VAGcom) you can actually modify the rain auto-wiping function, more or less agressive or switch it off all together (I have played with it on my Mk7 GTI). I can not imagine that this M4 - or actually any BMW - does not have this functionality! Specifically as this is a major safety concern, BMW would not just allow it as any braking accident in the rain could potentially backfire...

[@JoeAchilles1]

Sounds great in reality, but the two worse recent experiences I've had is with a 2018 C7 RS6 and a 2019 R8. Guess nothing is as consistent as steel brakes in mixed weather, hence Moto GP bikes running steels in wet weather

[@GTI_CHHA]

@@JoeAchilles1 Theory can only get so far, I cannot argue with your experiences.. thanks for the feedback.

[@NICKFOXTV]

It’s great BMW have finally given you a car, hopefully the first of many! A great honest review as always 👍🏻

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah let's hope it continues buddy haha

[@EdwardV20]

Really loved the video! You can really put into words what kind of emotions a car gives you. Keep it up Joe!

[@E92M3Guy]

Classy video joe, as always, I know you spend hours editing to get things just right and it shows. I love the other youtuber digs in their for good measure a bit of attitude never goes a miss being a no nonsense yorkshire man myself , cannot wait for the next one . All the best from ian.

[@strongerandwiser2023]

Quality whip. I would have one if I had the money. Unfortunately, I don't so have to stick to waiting for the next Joe Achilles upload to help me fantasize what it would be like to own one!

[@calumbrown3947]

As expected. Raw, honest, experienced, no fucking about! Worth the wait

[@JoeAchilles1]

Haha thanks man 👌

[@mariotorres1612]

Love someone who actually drifts there cars and do it well, love the vid!

[@gtsussex3467]

Nice video Joe. Glad you finally got a press car from them! Even with discounts, the CS is punching a bit above its weight and actually loses the reason I bought mine - I wanted creature comforts for daily driving yet still have ability to play on track. Interestingly 437M's with Cup 2's have been up at £3k new at dealers in recent months (still some available - bargain). Better use of dosh would be to buy an M4 CP (personally I'd have an M3), change suspension for decent coilovers, put 437M's on and save yourself a packet. Still have plenty of change for a decent map (where you can make the torque more progressive). Interesting on/off comments on MDM. I've updated mine to M4 GTS MDM/Diff and it's hugely more consistent (albeit definitely not for beginners as vastly more slip all the time). Anyway, look forward to next video!

[@gavinhall4112]

Well done buddy. Awesome job yet again. Hope this gets the traction it deserves!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks man!

[@simonwolfe529]

great video Joe, best one I've seen on you tube TBPH really informative have even made notes as im getting a CS same colour next week !!!! way hey !! clearly bought the right m car then !!!.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Incredible car man, the cup 2 tyres really unleash the CS capabilities 👌👌

[@bjosef9291]

Great honest review Joe, shame it wasn’t on CUP2s mate. Stunning roads and scenery though. 😎

[@dodo22r]

Very good review mate. Keep up the content. You doing amazing work!

[@myporscheadventures]

Brilliant video mate! All the effort you put into the video was definitely worth it. Chapeau!

[@olliemorgan974]

Another great video Joe - Very nicely done and well worth the trip to the Alps I'd say! Looks like a serious bit of kit and like you say I can imagine when pushing on it's well worth the premium over the M4 Comp Pack. Is great to see you finally getting a BMW press car too.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Cheers Ollie, yeah a very nice surprise getting a proper (but without proper tyres) press car haha. Hope you're well man

[@olliemorgan974]

Joe Achilles Ahaha yeah tyres weren't ideal but it's a damn good start! Yeah I'm good thanks mate, hope is all well with you man

[@billionbear]

Loving your work Joe. Your reviews are worth way more then the current sum of your subscribers.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks Arran appriciate it

[@andrewmoorhouse687]

Mega car. Mega video! Scenery in the Alps is just stunning. Top job Joe

[@garthknight1234567]

Finally a KZbinr that drives their cars properly, keep it up mate

[@M3UMH]

Love that colour! I'd just buy the competition pack.

[@BeingBornProductions]

Great review Joe, thoroughly enjoyed! Good drone usage too 😎

[@andyc8404]

Sorry to comment again, but commented before the video ended. Last 2 minutes are just epic! Epic man. I want one

[@mattjones5272]

To me your best video to date (currently jan 2020)

[@mattjones5272]

I’ve watched probably 20 times

[@thestrog1]

Good to see you getting press cars! Hope the channel continues to grow 👍🏻

[@garyclamp2293]

Great review Joe and some fantastic cinematography, got to be one of your best so far.

[@wesleythompson5085]

Love that car, especially in that colour combination

[@jamesreilly8455]

Brilliant review Joe, really enjoyed that. You're getting rather good at this video making malarkey 😀👏 Looking forward to the Petrolheads tour.

[@wisdomntshalintshali3296]

I see you giving more attention to the cinematics as well. Beautiful

[@mikewibberley1092]

Thanks for the spin Joe! I agree with you both the location and the car...just mega!

[@rishiv6291]

Congrats on getting your channel this far to be able to colab with BMW on this beast!

[@Zuxeh]

Great stuff mate, good piece of advice about the ceramics in the wet also, very scary feeling.

[@dagnut]

Shane it's amazing to me that ceramic brakes have become diseriable on a road car...they don't stop you any quicker for one, and in conditions where you really want your brakes to work, ie first thing on a cold morning, they are left wanting compared to steel brakes...

[@Zuxeh]

dagnut Couldn't agree more.

[@charliesimpson598]

Been looking forward to this video , lovely camera work to finish it off . Good work.👍

[@HarkamalAujla]

Enjoyed. What comes out is your in-depth passion. Enjoyed this video

[@JC-qf1jd]

Quality review Joe, really appreciate the totally honest opinions here. Cheers

[@OnlineHousehusband]

Absolutely brilliant production value Joe. You’ve seriously upped your game 💪🏼💥. This is a brilliant car but for £90k I’d take the new M5 all day long. It would trounce this M3cs especially with XDrive. This to me is purely a collectors showpiece or garage Queen 👸 👑. Keep up the cracking videos though Joe. Smashing it 👍🏼

[@WasabiWhistler]

The new base M5 would beat a this M4 CS in a straight away- and that's literally it, when it comes to performance..come on man, get a clue

[@RB-xv4si]

Agree with you about the tires. This car was engineered around the cup 2s so it’s a shame they didn’t throw them on for you. But you were driving in a colder climate. Drive when the tarmac is hot and it’s easier to get the rubber stickier. You gotta drive that thing really hard to warm the tires up enough in that chilly weather.

[@BimmerTV]

Good review Joe, digging the birds chirping to start things off. In car audio could have been a bit cleaner. Just had an M4 in the Alps 2 weeks ago myself! So much fun, videos coming soon! Your video really took me back!

[@simons4474]

Great spec love those seats.

[@miketucker592]

Great scenery in a thrilling car

[@skrads]

Awesome camera shots! Diligent production. Thank you for entertaining video. 🤘🏎

[@parky2310]

Excellent review Joe - Honest, forthright and really well delivered - I have to say I love the CS and to see it driven properly in what is its main environment (track days not withstanding!), coupled with an excellent real world review was great to see. I hope you get chance to review the new M5 - I’d love to see abs hear your opinion on that beast too! - Top Work Fella! 👍👍👍👍

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks buddy glad you enjoyed it! Let's keep our fingers crossed for a M5 soon... 👌👊

[@haroldponcet5506]

at 0:56 literally where I was this holidays (lac de devesset) I'm french and I have a country side house like 20min far from there, like always great video and I love the spec on the car...cheers from France

[@JoeAchilles1]

Haha no way! What a small world, my auntie and uncles have lived 10 mins from there for the past 30 years... Unbelievable place 👌

[@tomspanyol5532]

Your best work yet! Great video.

[@rajchoudhury5130]

Yes Joe! Very good video as per. Want that CS!!

[@justinnwarren]

Great video Joe. I have a M4CP. I would love a CS but not sure I could justify the premium over the CP. Keep up the great reviews.

[@simonwolfe529]

just watched this again, am sure the professional production, cool drone work, as Miles drive said, plus the undercoat primer makes this the ultimate M Car, can't wait to get mine, tomorrow - loving this limerock undercoat, , don't care what anyone else things, ok if runs out of fuel, I'll have to rive the Austin Allegro Equipe support car (which I can't see Joe ! ) :-)))

[@jasonpaterson1250]

Now thats bang tidy! Love the M4 but this is the mutts nuts

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah lovely car isn't it, gutted to give it back 😂👌

[@MilesDrive]

super vid Mr BMW😉....at least you earned this press car Joe & I'm sure there will be plenty more. Like the drone work & the different camera angles/views...lot of work gone into this vid👌👏

[@csopr]

Epic video as always Joe. That exaust!!

[@toprangegamer1239]

It is a brilliant car but like you said you only need that type of torque power 10% of the time , so your m1 is the perfect car in my opinion!

[@DrivingwithNico]

Absolutely loving the shots in this!

[@neilbate2872]

Absolutely love your review on the CS and I do agree with a lot you say & said , but the main thing Is what people miss out is that the depreciation of these cars are nothing like CP and the normal M4 which I have . The extra money you pay for the CS in the long run , if you can afford it is better as you’ll hopefully get as much as you payed for it from new. Please let me know what you think Joe 👍🏻

[@jspatl]

Badass video, Joe! Love the CS. Hard to come by here in the US.

[@larrywiltshire4813]

great video Joe, i know exactly what you mean about the mlite being great 90% of the time, i have a M140i and a M5 and without doubt 90% of the time the m140i is good enough if not better in certain circumstances, however the M5 is never going!!

[@borisjovanovic7648]

Keep it up Joe, great as always!

[@smilepermile888]

17:18 that roast at Archie Hamilton! Respect man 👊 This is off topic but your gangsta impression of Ricky from LivingLifeFast was hilarious - you nailed the super low driving position, one hand on 12 o'clock, his head tilted to one side (don't get me wrong, I love his videos and he's got a good personality)

[@JoeAchilles1]

I wasn't reffering to anyone in particular... 😉 Haha yeah love Ricky, he appriciates my stupid humour 😂

[@GuysThatDrive]

Nice review, easy watching and nicely communicate what the cars about!

[@andyc8404]

Been waiting to watch this properly on my TV for 2 days Joe, volume was up and you have another happy subscriber. BEST VIDEO YET #fuelguage

[@xountapapadopoulos3535]

*AMAZING SUPERCAR AND DRIVER*

[@Holdeenio]

Amazing video Joe. Amazing location to enjoy that beast. 😎

[@simonwolfe529]

The best blog, on a CS , this side of the Russian Federation !! - great drone shots, nice in limerock, I've got Satin Blue( same colour as Sam Marino blue but matted) lovely drivers car all day long, Joe is spot on, Cup 2s sticky tyres !!!! TG I've got them.

[@MrDarrenNice]

What a lovely edited and shot video. Amazing car 😍👌

[@63np]

Great video mate, Im picking up the Forged 763’s for mine this week 👍🏼

[@boev770]

Joe, you the Man Always great videos 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@richardpardo8827]

Awesome / great vid and amazing car!! Loved it ✌🏻😎

[@robsteel9718]

Great vid Joe, best cinematography I've seen on your channel. Love your honest and down to earth ways. BTW, why don't you start a motorbike channel? You're a two wheel fan aren't you?

[@1980venom]

I think the CS sounds like the Beemers from the 80's. Nice vid!

[@neilhunter1619]

Awesome car, awesome content, great work. Well done you.

[@arnovanderveer5148]

I love this car😍 Nice vid bro✌️👍

[@rare6499]

Superb video, nicely done. Really informative, well presented, detailed and nicely shot. Great work! Can’t understand how BMW can’t engineer more traction in to the M4, AMG don’t seem to suffer in the C63 quite to the extent that the M4 does. The price is crazy, in my mind the extras can’t quite be justified. Still, no doubting it’s a great car.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Cheers Josh, I really don't understand either, I really think its mostly down to the aggressive engine mapping...

[@djw48]

Dunno Josh, I can’t my power down on my c63s either, maybe it’s the pot holes everywhere!

[@Gunn3ll]

Having extensively driven the new C63 i can confirm that it really does suffer with traction!!

[@theprepperrevelator]

Just drove the AMG and bought the M because the AMG couldn’t stay connected. The AMG motor is really fantastic and a real treat to drive but the suspension doesn’t come close to the M. I also think the M motor is really underrated by Bmw as it feels closer to 500 hp than the 444 Bmw says it has in the comp pkg. The tuner company Dinan put it on a Dyno and said it was over 500 hp at the wheels which seems more realistic. Rick

[@AUTOIDTV]

Great video mate, very well made!

[@danielrogers173]

Great review as always Joe. Love that colour! Saw an M3 in that colour and it blew me away. Still loving my 330D tho :-)

[@JoeAchilles1]

Cheers man! Bet you're still loving the 330d, probably still the best all round car on the planet (for the money) 👌

[@ryhanchoudhury1023]

Thanks for this Joe. Saw 1 in San Marino Blue the other day. Absolutely love these but my soft spot is for the M5 lol! Gr8 vid m8.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks for watching 👌

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks for watching 👌

[@jonathangandy]

Great work Joe. Good to see you driving it on some great roads. Amused by your comment about wraps and revving in a car park. 😅

[@olirelf8056]

Great video joe. Well done.

[@DownShiftThrottle]

£100k is a bit much for this. Love the colour and wheels but I'd rather buy the competition pack and then buy the wheels lol. Until then..... I'll stick with my M140i 😁

[@damone3331]

The review was MEGA thanks!