BMW M4 CS! Is the best M4 worth the Premium?! |- Full Review

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Thanks for watching!! What do you think of the puzzling CS? Will it be worth more in the future, or is another car a better alternative? Interested to hear your views. :)

[@joeherrjr]

Seems like overpriced boy racer stuff to me. If you are driving on the street just get a regular M4 and enjoy that.

[@andyneocleous]

442NM?

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Firebird Sweet comp pack is a good bet!

[@PorscheGTRSWeissach]

In my oppinion it's overpriced but honestly it looks soooooo good! Take my moneeeeeeeeyyyyyyy! ;-)

[@davidm3maniac201]

Remove Before Race stunning colour and car but i dont think it will hold its value. I hop a am wrong because i wNt one badly

[@TrestanSKYWALKR]

I will always be an AMG guy but I must say these new M cars are beautiful!

[@esvignettes7592]

The brand new BMW cars coming next year are hideous. I’m honestly pissed even though I’m an AMG driver.

[@NNN-wl7pj]

I’m the opposite but the s 63 is nice af

[@duffydon1741]

@Auto blipper because you are a dull person..

[@Justriding]

@Auto blipper E30 M3, E36 M3 all out pricing their mercedes equivalents in today's markets.. lol Even your merc man reviewing this car draws completely irrelevant comparisons... M4cs / C63s & RS5 lol quite frankly embarrassing.

[@sudhakargn115]

Only AMG's are beautiful..... Bcuz, All BMW's are Handsome and MANLY

[@TobiasHenreich]

It's a beautiful designed sportscar with strong heritage attached to it!

[@jameshoward9700]

Great review. I owned one of these for about 9 months, using it hard on road and track. I sold it for a Rangey going into it's second winter, took a huge loss, but could now trade my Rangey back in for a used CS with less miles than mine... I thought it was a great car, one of the best front ends ever and a beautiful interior (though there was the odd rattle). It was practical (I could put my race bike in the boot with the seats down), taking kids or luggage as needed - a true GT (though quite loud as the sound insulation was removed). On track it was very good, it lacks a bit of top end power, so you have to use the torque, which I don't really like, but then it is primarily a road car. Nonetheless, it would still go head to head with very serious track specced cars and was capable of good times considering the road tyres. And they are road tyres BTW - they overheat pretty fast on a hot track. Conversely, on the road, it has too much torque - ok in perfect conditions, but slower (though fun) in the wet - this thing spins into 4th... I never had slow mis-shifts, but then I always ran the paddles in their fastest setting. While I had the car I considered chopping it in for a 991.2 GTS, which I test drove and was very disappointed by. The CS had the better interior, practicality, quality feel, specialness and driving edge. Now (early 2020) they are £55k for a low milage car - what a bargain.

[@Jackj28]

My next M4 CS in Lime rock gray coming this September 2018!!! Can't wait. After my E36 M3, E46 M3 and E90 M3, the M4 CS is next.

[@Bitaliktderr]

So how do you like it compare to your previous M3s?

[@luimarco]

the M2 comp will be the bargain of the decade

[@ABCEDEFG911]

luimarco babypleaseee on a dailyy basis

[@Toymonkeyjr]

still is

[@kodakbrown4461]

But the m4 gts will have the highest resale value.

[@agmos01]

Great review! It’s nice to see an /////AMG fan owning/driving/enjoying an ///M car! Yes, the regular M3/M4’s dashboard is not that different from their diesel counterparts, but the same can be said of AMG products since dashboards are not that different, i.e., C63 x C300, right? One can also get loads of Nappa leather on the regular M3/M4’s. Yes, storage space will be sacrificed. The M4 is already a compromise, the CS is even more so. I love Alcantara too! As the F8x is about to go out of production it’s hard to imagine they’d fit the car with anything but the analog gauges, which I’ll definitely miss once one can’t get anything but digital displays. Yes, BMW could’ve given CS owners a more up-to-date key, but then again, look at how long MB gave buyers that Daimler-Chrysler era key. Agreed! Sport/Sport+ steering modes are rubbish. I am disappointed to hear that is still true in the CS. Agreed! I don’t think the M3/M4 sound bad. ASM is unnecessary. Hmmm… My F80 M3 Comp Pack shifts on the dime. Specially in more aggressive shifting modes, off course. Yes, 90K is a bit much, but as you mentioned, it may very well keep its value as ///M cars usually do.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

///// AMG Enjoyed Reading you comments! Thanks man

[@agmos01]

You're very welcome! I love watching your videos! Keep up the excellent work!

[@bjosef9291]

Awesome review, nailed it, one of the best reviews if not the best review on KZbin.👍🏼

[@Ganijespree]

Worth every cents wat a fkking beast the m4 cs is.

[@moderate_eaglegamingyt5468]

I actually went to a bmw dealership near me and the guy was so nice he started the car up and reved it and i fell in love with and he let me sit in the drivers seat. I hope i can get thus car one day 😍😍😍

[@LivingLifeSlower]

Key design. How the dials look. Things I've never even considered when buying a performance car.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Amazing in depth review buddy, I'm so glad I got to spank one for a week around Europe...

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Joe Achilles Thanks buddy!! Hope you had fun in it too!

[@strykz63]

Definitely the best sounding M... I'm still not a fan of how they sound.. but this one sounds decent.. I'm sure it drives beautifully

[@An.Individual]

Great review, I think he balanced the negatives well against the positives.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

It's Only Me thanks so much man!

[@deenothru]

the colour is really special to me and as well for the rear oled so gorgeous. other than that, not much cooler than m4 gts

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Dino Alfebio GTS is cooler!

[@nikolamladenoff3516]

it isnt supposed to be cooler than the GTS, after all its positioned in the middle between the comp pack and the GTS itself.

[@user-zx1ir7jt4c]

I test drove one yesterday and got a hard on, lol. Such a fun car to drive. The only complaint I have is the doors with the straps but the thing has the most amazing brakes. It literally stops on a dime!

[@thetruechexmixer6065]

1:20 "The car is also about 90 thousand pounds" Me: Wait, it is 3,620 lbs... Video continues... Me: Oh he was speaking in British

[@jalloor]

That was an awesome review. You had so much info in it that i had to watch it a couple of times to really take in. You are absolutely right about the price. It is crazy expensive especially without a titanium exhaust or water injection added. I don't think they will sell too many. There are M4gts' that can be had for less than what this car is going for. I reckon that the M3cs will offer better value in terms of space, practicality and since it will be sold in limited numbers(1500). I guess the high prices will keep the demand down until they are all gone, only time will tell. Great looking car though and I hope we can now see some instrumental Vbox tests. Thank you mister for the awesome content.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Too kind thank you!! Really spurs us on this kind of feedback!

[@duffydon1741]

The fact that they are limited to 1500 is exactly why enthusiasts will fight over them, my guy, there are people with money like dust out there who can even buy two of those, daily drive one and garage one and take it out after 20yrs where it will cost 3 times. You recall what happened to the 1M???? Exact same story with this one, may i rrcommend that you follow the EAG experience to appreciate what is happening to the 1M, the E39M5 the E30M3 etc, all the BMWs are appreciating in value..

[@pikkagtr1942]

I love the intro music man brings back the NBA on NBC days

[@ksksksksksosolslslslslsl8791]

The best car ever EVER!!!! Its so beautifull , fast and sexy .BMW M4 💗💗

[@Trufflestravels]

"Unless you have kids and they tickle ya " LOOOOOL

[@osamanaeem3932]

I’ve driven all the M4 models and tbh O never felt any delay in gear changing they are lighting fast

[@iheartwatches]

Really thorough review, thanks! Great that you got into it with the fine details no one talks about, like noise difference, rear end/balance, and even potential resale.

I agree very much that is all about confident when it comes to lap times. I like this car...sounds great.

[@nickc5498]

You can pick these up for £44k-ish now. Starting to look like a good used buy!

[@alexandros3912]

I am in love with AMG black series....but BMW M4 is one great car too!!!

[@bekabeka71]

any m4 over c63s, whether daily driving or on a straight line

[@esvignettes7592]

Crazy talk. The cars are aimed at the same market but satisfy different people. If you want an amazing sound, c63 all day. If you want more refined speed and don’t care for an amazing interior, m4. My problem with the higher end M cars is that they gut them, stick carbon fiber on them, then charge you 20-30k more.

[@BigBoss-ps6vk]

ESVignettes I daily driven the m4. No issues with space

[@Justriding]

At last a sensible comment..

[@ertugrulbae46]

Straight line - M3/M4 Track - M3/M4 Exterior - M3/M4 Sound - C63, unless you have M performance exhaust in which case its debatable. Interior - C63 Weight - M3/M4

[@ChrisDorgan]

Couldn't agree more, it was priced way to high for what they actually did to it. I also find some of the "weight saving" pointless because it's counter acted by things that would have saved way more weight, for example the pull straps etc haha. Here's to hoping they make an M2 CS though and get the weight down below the launch car!

[@CarswithB]

Love ur car bro For a Daily Driver I still take the Competition Package!

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

SeniorLeb yes for daily!

[@Halit1234.]

The AMG keys aren’t much better 😂😂

[@djhrs1438]

this is a limited edition car tho

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Absolutely agree! I say this a lot

[@mpizutti]

dont i know it..haha

[@griphy]

I would like to see you review the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio one day

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

griphy Alfa have gotten in touch: HAPPENING! 😃

[@griphy]

Remove Before Race Great news. Btw, good work on the channel and I believe that reviewing other brands is a natural step for your channel. Bright times ahead

[@aoalr]

I thought it was impressive in photos but a test drive proved otherwise. RS5 is much nicer!

[@MUSICHUNT3RHD]

M4 can't be more perfect but exhaust farts killing it

[@myphoneutube1383]

Remove before race is much more simple to watch. It is so easy to understand the car...

[@DigitalvideotoolsOrg]

I don't think you'd notice a 35 kg weight reduction from the M4 which weighed a tiny bit more than 1600kg.

[@Brett7777]

That kind of money I would be looking at Porsche. I been reading up on M4 and I went and snuck in the back of my local BMW dealer and spoke to the techs about the standard M4 and the mechanics said honestly it is pretty good car as far BMW’s go. Actually they told me the M4 has less problems then the M2 which I found rather odd due to the n55 is pretty bullet proof. M2 is in for service more. I could not take all their time up but I figured four techs giving it thumbs up 👍 was a good.

[@ShysteCapone]

Idc what anybody says, this car is worth every penny!!!

[@redadk6173]

7:29 Engine in efficient and sounds amazing

[@bakhajuraev7349]

most beautiful design in the world imho

[@Garry415]

Great video but can't wait to hear your thoughts whether or not the new M2 Competition is going to eclipse the 2018 M2. Fascinating! Has anyone driven them back to back yet?

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Garry Payton-McDowall not yet buddy! I can’t wait too!!

[@RB-xv4si]

You seemed like you were having issues with the shifting. Did you adjust the Drivelogic button to the most aggressive setting (3 bars)? That could be why it wasn’t shifting sharply. I know people love the M DCT for its super fast shifting so this is very surprising.

[@medogabr9952]

Russell Brown i hate it on my m6. Its terrible for daily.

[@RB-xv4si]

Medo Gabr what don’t you like about it?

[@kqbxkvyqd6858]

performance exhaust sounds sweet!

[@brayton6683]

One day I'm gonna own this lovely beast of an M car ...

[@shizc2994]

I prefer the BMW M3 CS over the M4 CS. More practical and better looking.

[@sadman7665]

Magic review, keep up the good work 👍👍

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Phil Sadler Thank you sir!!

[@emang6284]

Did you have it in m mode. It should shift fast all the time.

[@KingsWorld2015]

Good review, you went into depth. I liked it.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

KingsWorld2015 Thanks sir!!

[@gm3353]

your sub count and view count are ridiculously low considering how good your videos are and you as a presenter deliver these talks. Keep it up! I test drove one today and I agree with your assessment.

[@mpizutti]

good vid..I have the M3cs on order right now...I had a 2017 M3 also and i am driving a 2017 C63s now(tuned) I do like how the BMW drives better..but like you the sound the AMG makes is so good. My dealer is a Porsche Audi and BMW dealer..theytook me to the track to drive the 911s 4s and GTS and i will say that the 911 is a great car..but at the end of the day i really do not love it so for that kinda money i want to keep looking at it like the first day i drove it. NOW the down side there is no Euro Delivery on the M3cs..( i have done 2 in the last 3 years) and I REALLY like the new M5 comp pack(and i can do euro delivey on it) I am so confused...hahaha well keep up the good work. I hang out with a few KZbinrs here in the states and run some rallys maybe someday our path will cross cheers

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Michael Pizutti Thanks man! It’s a tough one, M5 review coming next and I suspect it’s great

[@andreynadyssev8684]

this is the best of all BMW M4 ever

[@andyboltongroup874]

Lovely car but it’s not really practical you could get the comp and put the CS wheels on for 5k. Lovely colour I think it’s overpriced and I will be going for the comp and put the CS wheels on. Fantastic review you have pointed me in the right direction.

[@f32440i]

Such a struggle to close the door. 😂 Pmsl. Revving engine when cold is a bad move, good review tho.

[@zukosobuza783]

i absolutely love this car

[@user-si5oy1wq4f]

Bro please compare against the c63s amg.50-200km/h, drag race.Thanks!

[@davissilvestrs1996]

M4 CS is faster.

[@BO2GAMEPL4Y]

M50B25 Turbo how

[@davissilvestrs1996]

DirtyIraqi Power to weight ratio

[@BO2GAMEPL4Y]

M50B25 Turbo 40 more bhp and 100 more nm of torque balances out the extra 150 kgs in my personal opinion. I wouldn’t say it’s faster, rather directly similar total power output

[@davissilvestrs1996]

DirtyIraqi It’s actually more like 200-220kg difference, c63 is a very heavy car. 460hp on 1580kg is better than 510hp on 1800kg And the M4 CS was never intended as a drag racer it is designed to beat and outhandle everything on a track (which it does perfectly)

[@sampetronas43]

I don't know exact prices but couldn't you fit the M4 Comp Pack with some M Performance items then it will be pretty much like the CS plus some new tyres possibly but against a Porsche you'd be mad to choose this over it ...

[@kuddin9021]

For 90k I’d take a used Carrera S, rock solid depreciation too (or lack of it)

[@tahbibahmed5065]

K Uddin these cars are limited so they will stay the same or not depreciate much.

[@kuddin9021]

Tahbib Ahmed you might want to check autotrader mate, they are depreciating hard and fast. £88k base price, you’ll find them £10-15k cheaper depending on options with a few miles on the clock.

[@yt0500323022]

Tahbib Ahmed.....Dream on.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

I must agree with this

[@eliseomacconi7426]

Beautiful video, made with competence, thank you.

[@Box0rz]

Really good from the outside, but jesus, BMW interiors have looked the same for over 10 years and this one especially looks really dated. That 90s style needs to change.

[@solaimanelaissaoui4842]

The interior is the same because this M4 CS is still related to the F30/F32 series which it’s based on! The M4 CS isn’t a new model but just a update of the older M4.

[@ertugrulbae46]

It's the F80/F82 style which started in 2014. With the base models of the 3 series from 2012, and 4 series a year later. Ofcourse it would feel outdated.

[@SickStyle201]

Love the NBA on NBC theme song lol

[@MrTraversjacobs]

Great video as usual. Is there a video on the BlackSeries coming?

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Travers Jacobs Yes buddy! At a big UK track, will take time but be worth it!

[@NoneNone-kp1qc]

I was under the impression MB were no longer Interested in making BlackSeries cars?

[@MrTraversjacobs]

Sweet.

[@av7447]

Have you heard of bootmod3? The steering on the M4 CS is unchanged from the competition... correct me if I am wrong!

[@citydavae]

Now thts a honest review

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Royce Saunders trying! Thanks man

[@rayhuckle]

Car that I can't afford, but if I had that type of money I'd go for a m4 competition pack. I just hate the fact that you need to close the doors with a rope. ( I know this module is more speced for the race track)

[@TehNouk]

Dreamcar😍 love that blue

[@peterhammer6915]

Slightly strange review. I admit I have not driven the M4 CS but did drive the M3 CS and that car is not even in the same bracket as an C63S. The M3 is on a different level alltogether, you feel the car 10x better, its sharper, around a track the difference is massive. The only debatable thing is the sound, which I would give to the C63. I have watched a ton of the M3 CS reviews and they are all hyperpositive so is there a difference in favour of the M3 compared to the M4??

[@nuniday3675]

I agree almost feels like this review is a little biased … the cs feels like a new car compared to base or comp !

[@ericxueAAA]

I feel the interior door panels are made by recycling materials. And the ducktail spoiler weights 3 lbs...

[@fjs2456]

this is a good review. thanks

[@keyamokeamogetswe7732]

Its high time Joe Achilles hooked you up with an M5 Comp.

[@zukosobuza783]

this car is a legend

[@chop3625]

Did you ever tire of the SMB? I’m on the fence with a 2020 and unwanted attention concerns me, only other color available is AW☹️

[@yt0500323022]

I hope BMW does something about the sound of the next generation M3/M4; it is absolutely god awful in the F80/82.....standard car, M performance exhaust, Comp pack, CS or GTS; doesn’t matter. Listen to the Giulia QF. Heck; listen to the N55 in my series production F30.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

EvenKeel I hope so too

[@drdj69]

next M and c63s will be a lot quieter . because they will be hybrid. so stop whinging, stop complaining and enjoy whatever sound is left.

[@IanD-ut4dy]

They should have made the keys the same way as the new 760Li.

[@andrewlam426]

Yes it’s worth it if can afford it!

[@garaypower2852]

Nice video man! Like the honest review. I also agree with some cons you pointed out but overall the pros take over! Nice 90 K car I wouldn't take this over a f80 cs tho :P #sedanboyss

[@jithinvennapusa6734]

You should try reducing your intro clip's lenght. Otherwise, great content!

[@kishanparmar3808]

Hi have you done a review on m3 competition? Love to watch it. Please send link thanks.

[@hidconceptcom]

Awesome reviews!

[@kievchesney7850]

Facts! This is relevant now!'

[@kareemlee2212]

What a great video... thank you!

[@chrisogrady28]

If only it had the S65

[@camas77721]

If one of those awesome tail lights burn out, how hard is it to replace? Do you have to replace the entire assembly? Is it something that only BMW can service? I just began learning about BMWs and cars in general so my apologies if this is an obvious or absurd question. Thank you.

[@dennygamble4520]

What would you prefer for the track only? CS or GTS? I don’t believe what everyone says about the GTS being a bad car. I have seen what a GTS can do on the track and I know how fast my regular M4 is on the track with some minor mods compared to my GT4 and GT-R.

[@benfl9636]

forget the M4 CS, checkout the black series in the back and that green beast from hell :D

[@anyportinastormqwert]

Nice review Sir.

[@antoniodias3145]

Good channel mate

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Antonio Dias thank you man!

[@markjones8013]

Great car, great vid, as always a broad professional “opinion” on a manufactures tweaks based on their standard cars. This is ok if you like high performance cars based on diesel chugging mile crunching tourers, if you like spending your money “loosely” and don’t care much about depression, then these German cars are going to perform best on the asphalt but not with hard earned paper counterpart “money”. However there is another German brand that specializes on supercar performance that doesn’t depreciate like its other German rivals and, in many ways it is better German allrounder. The brand doesn’t need an introduction, but what it does need is a great channel rather similar to this one, HINT. As always, enjoying your car food

[@gm3353]

one other thing.. I'm considering M2c/M4c/M4cs... which would you have, money being considered?

[@P_M21]

18:29 M2CS 💰💰💰

[@jazzip2989]

Great piece of drivers machine...love you Germany

[@scottkayrouz236]

M fan and owner, but, I would take a 911 gts all day!

[@showtimeismagic]

How do the speakers sounds? Much worse than standard m4? im def worried about that

[@PhonesOnaDailyBasis]

Its sounds like a Terminator 2 soundtrack

[@HamzaTheQ]

6:20 Roken is it true, 7 MPG?!!! Also seen at 7:28

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Hamza Quraishi Spirited driving 😂😂

[@HamzaTheQ]

Lol, love it!!

[@Phenixzero]

I can’t help but wonder, does modding regular M4 can be reach to the level of M4 CS does?

[@franklinwatson7767]

CS, GTS not worth the price if you're looking for performance. About $1200 tune (BM3 and BEF tune) will garner you an extra 100HP+ and 100TQ+ to the wheels on a base M4. The CS hood is cute, but that's about it.

[@chop3625]

Wonder if he has regrets over such an attention getting color, just a thought. Beautiful color as we all know.....

[@zenko1311]

Does sid receive royalties for appearing in your intro sequence??... :)

[@zzhughesd]

Just seen Shmee and Joe Achi..... RBR the best for info clarity, thanks. Enjoyed. Easy on the ear and sound better although still is only a so so sound

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

dan hug hes Thanks so much sir!! Can’t explain how much this means to us

[@xaviergl]

Wouldnt storage space be more weight saving ? I mean its technically just air

[@carl9184]

50k now !😲

[@DanielSadjadian]

It does look great, but I still think the C63S is nicer, it just sounds so much better. But this is a much better drivers car.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Daniel Sadjadian Don’t think it’s much better, C63S is sublime

[@DanielSadjadian]

Remove Before Race agreed. I drove the C63 S at MB World not too long ago and loved it!

[@zuffweiss]

It is muuuuuch better. See lap times etc.

[@yvngboitrad6099]

@@zuffweiss regular m4 beat the c63s on lap time with 1 sec every time. Your track was straight line i think