2018 Honda Odyssey Elite Reviewed (vs Toyota Sienna & Chrysler Pacifica)

[@Ladyalphawolf]

TOYOTA SIENNA IS THE BEST ! I bought a new 2010 Honda Odyssey, and a new 2010 Toyota Sienna, for my USPS Mail routes .. 370 miles a day each .. Both vans were serviced by the dealerships I bought them from .. Both vans were serviced at the required mileage, including the transmissions .. The Honda Odyssey engine went out at 267,516 miles .. The Toyota Sienna has 359,987 miles, and still going strong ! I have bought 3 other Toyota Sienna vans for my other routes .. I'm a Toyota buyer for life !!

[@fortunatedad7695]

I drove the 2019 and I must say it's impressive how much more power it has along with features. I have a 2012 elite but drove the ex model, but I must say that for 10k less it is packed full of technology and would go for the Ex this time around instead of the touring. In my opinion the extra 10k is not worth of what you get in return.

[@johndaugherty3544]

Easily the best review on the 5th Gen Odyssey for a normal Honda Dad or Mom.

[@Phrancis5]

When it comes to cars, Americans care way too much about "Personal Image" over how much more practical minivans actually are.

[@Accurize2]

Phrancis5 What does that say about Europeans though? They don’t even have them in Europe...well except the Metris, but Doug DeMuro pretty much handled that rebuttal. So Americans clearly buy enough of them to have it as a competitive market.

[@ALMX5DP]

Minivans are just cool. Not sure why the public enjoys crossovers so much, because the practicality and versatility of a minivan is unmatched (not to mention can look pretty neat like this Odyssey).

[@jeremyv11000]

Alan Bowers awd or 4wd, there is the sienna but still suvs tend to be more lovable since both will get same mileage anyway

[@v60polestar88]

Alan Bowers Because a man loses his player card once he buys a minivan. Paddle shifters in a minivan. COME ON MAN!!!

[@ALMX5DP]

Polestar Wes nah, true man-card holders drive minivans! P.S. love the V70 Polestar!

[@alakdan1964]

Can’t pickup girls with minivan. lol

[@bhotscaball4655]

Switch from Honda Odyssey and Honda accord to Toyota Sienna and Toyota Camry because of the transmission problem. Honda. accord transmission replaced at 34,000 miles, good still under warranty. Honda Odyssey , complaining about the wheezing sound on the transmission and had been recall 2 times. Didn’t solve the problem, dealer said its natural,😡😡Sound system in both Odyssey and Accord sounds terrible. Still trying to evaluate the Sienna and Camry, got only 5000m each.

[@ahjwille]

3.5L not 3.6L :)

[@rxonmymind8362]

Screw that. I want a 7.3L V8!

[@kings17court]

I currently have the previous generation Odyssey (2017), and I immediately noticed that they corrected one of the things I do not like about mine. The middle row seats have armrests on both sides. Once you take out the middle seat/section on mine, the bucket seats are left without armrest on the inside, which I do not like. The other things I do not like about mine are wind noise, which is surprisingly high, and the ride quality, which isn't as plush as I would like.

[@kennynguyen2105]

We test drove the Odyssey Elite and 2017 Acura MDX. During the test, I did not have any connection with the Odyssey. When we pull in to a gas station, the front bumper hit the concrete bar of the parking space because it was too low. We got the MDX a day later. I don't think this van will do well in snow due to its ground clearance.

[@realnapster1522]

Very few people need AWD. If you know how to drive on snow FWD with snow tires is good enough.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

It's too bad Honda didn't put the SH-AWD on the Odyssey, whether it is a drive shaft version (might take up too much interior center hump space), or an all-electric system similar to the MDX/RLX/NSX. An Acura-flagged model would've been nice too, but I guess they fear it would cannibalize sales of their SUVs.

[@criznitty]

oldtwins Acura is having some trouble in the creativity department. They market sport luxury vehicles, but in reality, the interiors are lacking and any zest in styling is offput by something, usually the grille.

[@BrandonWest87]

I don't get the love affair with all wheel drive. It's a van, not an offroad monster. It's got snow mode and if you're living in a place with snowy winters, you should be swapping snow tires anyway.

[@EDHBlvd]

1:30 it is not a 3.6L. It is a 3.5L.

[@christophersantamaria7870]

You guys keep forgetting that the new odyssey has a snow mode

[@rbrice1981]

This was a good review. Thank you for sharing.

[@youarerightboss]

Buyer beware of inferior Honda Odyssey transmission failure. You've been forewarned.

[@SSC3034]

Dicky Ball that was ages ago

[@ctvwrest]

With new 10sp?

[@realnapster1522]

Get the 10 speed which seems to be better according to Alex on autos.

[@youarerightboss]

@@realnapster1522, I'll stick to my reliable Toyotas.

[@CMCNestT]

Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid (PHEV) is the gold standard in Minivans.

[@patrickmelhorn9095]

CMCNestT , no

[@icee934]

It's not. Ihave the hybrid awd. Siena is better

[@nosenserunner9089]

Chrysler and Gold in the same sentence? Never seen that before. It’s been a year since your comment. Do you still feel the same way? Everything Chrysler seems fall apart over time.

[@BrandonWest87]

Sure, and the back end is also uglier than sin.

[@PaulNaylor3]

I enjoyed your review. At 5:44 - 6:00 you mentioned that the adaptive cruise control is not really good for the daily commute and that it disables under 20 mph. I have a 2017 CR-V and it operates all the way to a stop and will even resume again on its own if the car in front of you begins moving within a few seconds. If traffic comes to a complete stop for more than a few seconds then it will begin again if you tap the resume button. I’m just wondering if this Odyssey operates differently.

[@Phrancis5]

My complaint about using ACC in our new CRV is that it leaves too much of a gap even with the shortest setting - and you will inevitably be cut off. Within just a few miles of stop n go traffic, you'll end up with 10+ more cars in front of you.

[@ilchristal]

Phrancis5 lol safety first ig lmaooo

[@vaw2487]

Lol, the guy's expression at 4:50

[@MrHeadSet1]

he be like, shit bruh white people and their jesus take the wheel bs

[@nicholaspetre1]

Good review, thanks!

[@timalma]

Nice job man Love from Saudi Arabia

[@frankhoward7645]

0:11. "But if you need lots of space...you can always get a large crossover." I disagree. Even a large crossover doesn't provide the space that a minivan provides, especially in the third row.

[@BrandonWest87]

It's precisely why we traded ours in for an Ody. Not to mention, with more than 2 kids, even a three row SUV is less than practical and you get darn near zero cargo space with the third row in use.

[@edwardcullen5705]

If we get a mini van its got to have all wheel drive. Minnesota winters.....

[@simboodamn]

Only reason why I went with the Sienna...

[@fortunatedad7695]

It has snow mode. Which works apparently very well with winter tires. I have an mdx and a '12 odessey, the only difference I find in winter driving between the 2 is when from a stopped position the odessey spins the tires. The snow mode slows the acceleration so that won't happen. Quite effective in the winter.

[@buckshot6481]

Stow n go can't be overstated, it's awesome, necessary and not in the precious Honda.

[@BrandonWest87]

I'll see your stow and go, and raise you one "Magic Slide"! I bought my van to move people, not sheet goods. For letting older kids in and out of the back, the ability to slide the outboard seat to the center is wholly indispensable. Perfect for letting the older kids climb in and self buckle while I tend to getting the little ones buckled up in the second row. If I'm planning on moving something large, I rent an inexpensive trailer, do the job, and return it. Done.

[@wealthywealth3651]

Yep! I just realized that the magic slide offers more use and more value daily with the family activity than the stow and go. Great innovation there Honda!

[@realnapster1522]

Who cares. Just remove seats in Odyssey if you are transporting big cargo. But mainly this is a family van and not a work van.

[@HmongGuitarPlayer]

You can text and drive when you are not actually driving loop hole for the courtroom to sort out.

[@momsohard2298]

seats 8... not 7. Just got mine today!

[@mattipock7921]

I still wonder why more minivans aren't available as hybrids yet. As highly practical vehicles, it seems like an obvious option. Granted, I realize a hybrid powertrain is quite a bit more complicated to offer than a moon roof, but it's 2018.

[@drivingsports]

Chrysler Pacifica is available as a hybrid and it’s a really nice one!

[@kasjun1]

You have to give up stow and go seating for the battery. No way is that a good trade.

[@dylbeentheplotagonistandra2811]

There is a Honda Odyssey hybrid, but it’s only available in Japan right now, I don’t know when it’ll be available in the US

[@icee934]

Doesn't save that much gas with my new awd Chrysler hybrid. My 2006 8-seater Sienna is still solid at 190k for long 8hr or 800mile long road trips still. My 2007 odyssey at 180k has been the worse with so many repairs. Will get another sienna. This time awd too.

[@rxonmymind8362]

@@kasjun1 They should "hide" it on the roof by making it a wee bit taller. The roof is useless.

[@TooKutiful]

No All Wheel Drive!!! Come on Honda at this point it should be an option by now!

[@BrandonWest87]

You get a snow mode, and if you're driving in winter weather regularly, you should be swapping to snow tires anyway.

[@justindavis5983]

Fantastic, Informative review!

[@Wasabi9111]

I loved my 2014 odyssey. But I love my new 2017 Pacifica even more. The new 2018 odyssey is excellent, however it’s missing several key features that’s available on the Pacifica I use everyday and now I can’t live wo, such as 360 camera, front and back parking sensors, remote start via my phone app, heated steering wheel, hands free sliding door and exterior buttons for the kids to easily open and close the sliding door. If Honda could add these useful feature, it would be perfect. In the meantime I’m sticking w the Pacifica.

[@rbrice1981]

wasabi9111 Most of those features you mention are in the Odyssey

[@Wasabi9111]

Are you sure? I didn't see theses features that last time I checked.

[@rbrice1981]

Yep. It does not have a 360° camera but it does have: front and back parking sensors, remote start via a phone app, heated steering wheel, hands free sliding door. It also doesn't have an exterior button for the door for the kids. It has a handle that when you pull it, the door electronically opens (similar; but different mechanism than a button.) You should definitely look at the suite of features. It is generally ranked #1 in Minivans.

[@OfficialPrincipe]

damn wasabi is regretting his choice now huh, especially when his pacifica starts showing engine sign

[@Wasabi9111]

Unknown Entity yes and no. I did love our 2014 odyssey. The interior storage was so much better than my Pacifica. But the odyssey wasn’t entirely trouble free. I love my new Pacifica and I also think the new odyssey is terrific. But I’m not sure I can live without the 360 camera, hands free sliding door and the exterior button to open the sliding doors. I use these features several times a day and they’re extremely convenient. I recently test drove the Pacifica hybrid and I loved it. They updated the 2018 slightly with a bunch of minor improvements over my 2017. The power train was awesome. When my current Pacifica lease is up the hybrid will be my replacement - that’s if the ev tax rebate is still available.

[@TheMass33]

At 4:49 the AC guy is like “WTF!” Kinda voodoo shit is he doing? No hands? Lol

[@Neukids]

Hey Odyssey 2018 owners, does it really do land keep assist LKAS for 30 to 40 seconds ? I have CRV 2017 and although love its ACC w low speed follow, it does LKAS only for 8 to 10 seconds at a time please lemme know

[@yaspeershaik4085]

Where is the extra tyre. If tyre was panchared how we can change tyre and where is the tool kit inside car.

[@melelo3]

yaspeer shaik extra tire is located in the second row in a floor compartment. So maybe the tool kit is there as well (but not sure about the tool kit).

[@donporsileagofeo973]

I got problems with my , dvd , gps , after the system update .

[@hafiz224]

It's 2020. We're supposed to have flying vans all over us.😩

[@asteriam1697]

If Honda designed Odyssey higher: wheels, platform, seats like Toyota Sienna, Honda will sell Odyssey(s) like hot cakes. Try it and change it in 2020 model year, etc. See how it will go. Love to see it higher look.

[@superdupert6]

Anna Do There are those consumers who prefer a lower vehicle for ease of entry and exit. Lower center of gravity is also prefered for stability at highway speeds

[@superdupert6]

Anna Do Actually Honda seats have always been more comfortable. I 've had both a Sienna and an Odyssey

[@Kevinjandro]

I dig the odyssey it's also very stylish looking👈🏾👌🏾

[@firemanjoe9491]

It's funny yet sad that no one talks about the Kia Sedona.

[@rickjames5998]

almost 50k and no AWD and it makes less horse power than the competition? Why does this win sooo many awards. pfffftt

[@twogenders]

Drive all 3 and you will see the vast difference. Although I do agree that the price is pretty insane. Those are Lexus/Acura money.

[@Sergei__v]

You get much better MPG and much better tire life with front wheel drive, just ask any Sienna all wheel drive owners. I never got stuck in an Odyssey and simply have a shovel in the back when it snows hard. This 2018 model is much better equipped than the outgoing model, complete with much better sound proofing and handling. It's worth the money. I'd get one used in 3 years.

[@farisan99]

why obsessed of HP & performance? this is a minivan mate. the importance is practicality not for high speed freak

[@disco.lemonade]

@Chris Christian amateur. these fwd vans with snow tires do well. you got a rav4, dude... not like it's a fucking land cruiser

[@BrandonWest87]

@@Sergei__v Thanks Sergei. People keep complaining about a lack of AWD and it confuses me. I agree with you, these folks should be using snow tires. It has a snow mode and folks should be prepared for winter weather with salt/sand and a small shovel.

[@Coowallsky]

No luggage carrier on the eltie trim?

[@BrandonWest87]

You mean like a roof cargo box? You can add one as an accessory during the sale. Edit: Awesome user name btw! 😃

[@ameermauri5547]

I looked at all the minivans and to me the best one was the Pacifica more power, better fuel economy, more room with the seats down and very quiet. I'm leasing the one I have but I'm buying my next one.

[@gillesthibault429]

Ameer Mauri With the legendary FCA quality control... oh sh...!

[@ameermauri5547]

According to consumers report the reliability for the Pacifica is average and it uses the same 9 speed transmission as the Honda.

[@gillesthibault429]

Wait! The model is only 1-2 years old... (I work at one of their suppliers. The launch was a nightmare, and it's still not quite sorted out after that time). As for the tranny, yes it's a nightmare, both for FCA and Honda. But I'm quite sure that Honda will not use it for as many models, or for many years - Did I tell you it's a nightmare: one of my friends with a 2015 Cherokee has had to have his second one reprogrammed 7 times so far (The first one grenaded)

[@christopherbrown1391]

Gilles Thibault wow I’ve had 2 generations of the Chrysler van and the only problem was the carpet glue that it and u work for one of the suppliers damn don’t you want them to succeed because it’s your job they all have problems

[@eventhorizon9512]

Dude, it's like a difference of 8 hp. Also, sorry, no way the Pacifica is as stylish as the Odyssey. I could give 2 shits about fuel economy or folding down seats, it's still a crappy American car.

[@K03sport]

that Elite mule is getting a workout...I still can't get over the $47k MSRP on this guy...i guess if you show a $30k example, you sell the those; if you show the $38k example, you sell a lot of those; however, when you show the $47k example to everyone, you sell some at $47k, but you also end up selling a lot more of the lesser models as its mostly the same stuff w/minor changes/differences like the transmission and seating surfaces, but still the same size and shape of the more expensive guy...genius...I'm not in the market for a minivan so I'm not sure why I watched the video; maybe it was to see if this one said ALL the same stuff as the other 7 videos on it.

[@superdupert6]

K03sport So you are not shopping for a minivan but you watched seven videos about it? Mmmm! Watch one more, maybe then you will admit it to yourself!

[@kasjun1]

@5:10 I'm not touching gas, I'm not touching throttle------- explain the difference.

[@wiibaron]

Pause it at 33 an stare at it...you will be stuck with that look for 6 years...

[@midnitestate]

wiibaron yeah....Like vans don't look...Great...But Hondas new designs are just bad...There are some lines I like but overall just ugly

[@markluis8473]

I miss the rocker vans

[@DarylChangs]

Is AWD not necessary on a van?

[@1jzx110]

no. Only Sienna

[@CoralSea]

I'll buy it when Honda makes it less ugly and moves the air vents to the ceiling where they're used to be. But I don't have much hope. It seems like they force me to Kia.

[@charruaporelmundo]

Still not AWD!??? :(.....

[@BrandonWest87]

Where do you plan on offroading a van!? Lol. It's got 4.1" ground clearance. If winter is your concern, it has snow mode and you should be using snow tires anyway.

[@eddieyutub]

Unreliable transmission is my issue with this car I have family and friends owning this car and are afraid to drive long distance

[@droma2366]

Cosmetically, the weirdest looking one. Need awd, especially during midwest snowstorms. Wish toyota figured out sto-N-go seats.

[@SSC3034]

D Roma it's not that other manufacturers aren't capable of making stow ñ go like seats, but that no one else is allowed to because Chrysler has a patent on it. The next best thing is to have seat backs that integrate with the floor like the on the old Nissan Quest and Mazda5

[@ipfreely1281]

Put a piece of plywood or a piece of drywall in the back of an odyssey oh wait you can’t do that you can with the Toyota pull a boat pull it up a steep boat ramp all-wheel-drive better have a Toyota the odyssey does it have all wheel drive bottom line Toyota is more versatile

[@iceman04m84]

I Think 2018 Crysler Pacifica hybrid much better.

[@LeonardoCostaUSA]

Correction: it has 8 seats

[@malandvulamachawe6323]

I like passing the greenwood van😂😂😂

[@L2Cotton]

Looks like the old Station Wagons

[@marklo4416]

2018 Toyota Sienna is way better looking than 2018 Honda Odyssey. With 3.5-liter V-6 with 296 hp and 263 lb-ft of torque and 8 speeds Automatic. Honda Odyssey With 3.5-liter V-6 with 280 hp and 262 lb-ft of torque. See you later Odyssey......

[@drw1926]

Sure, because 16 hp and 1 lb-ft of torque makes such a huge difference in vehicles weighing just shy of 5000 lbs. By the way, Car and Driver tested the 2018 version of the Odyssey and Sienna, and got a 0-60 time of 6.6 seconds in the Honda, 6.8 in the Sienna.

[@BrandonWest87]

Better looking is a matter of opinion. I happen to think Honda bests Toyota when it comes to looks in darn near every one of their market segments.

[@davidr9876]

One thing will always be true about Honda minivans, the transmission will die on you

[@midnitestate]

David R and the fact that the 10 speed is in the case of a 6 doesn't help...How does it distribute heat and how much of a pain is it going to be to work on?

[@haringbakal5422]

Honda Odyssey is a junk the transmission not last longer. Kia Sedona would be better. Great engine and transmission 💪💪💪

[@Sergei__v]

simple fix - replace transmission fluid every 25 000 miles and maybe (MAYBE) radiator once in a blue moon if the transmission fluid gets contaminated with coolant. That's it.

[@josephmorales7777]

Not touching gas not touching throttle 😂😂😂

[@dalesworld1308]

I thought Honda van engines and transmissions were no bueno. I don't care how much more comfortable it is if it costs me a fortune to repair.

[@Skyman08]

Sorry that ZF 9 speed is a turnoff. The Honda 10 speed is too new to trust

[@spiritkiller9112]

Wow.

[@cherryblick3044]

When looking for a vehicle for a family, it’s important to put practicality and safety over looks and speed. A small, speedy car is not a practical or safe car for most families. A small vehicle can’t hold as many things or people. In a sports car you’re more likely to speed, just because you can, which puts you, the people in the car, and other people in danger. If you don’t care about the safety and practicality of your car when buying it for your family, you will look like an asshole to countless people, most likely even the people in your car.

[@sallydelacruz884]

I prefer Kia Carnival 2.2 diesel...

[@aslanutegenov1158]

USA don't have any minivans with diesel engines

[@alitartila4151]

Reyusai Io

[@labradooe533]

we do need ,can't afford. one military family in need

[@BrandonWest87]

The Ody LX can be had for around $30k. Used Odys can be had for less and usually last a couple hundred thousand miles.

[@alitartila4151]

Uyo

[@Toyota4Life]

This fun to drive bullshit is getting old. The thing is not fun to drive cut the bullshit and no one buy a minivan because they want something fun to drive so being fun to drive it's not a factor. I have driven this thing it's a boat and that exactly how a minivan should drive. Jesus had enough with these reviewers and "fun to drive" be the end all of decisions making

[@Toyota4Life]

Heyu Yoma actually the Toyota having AWD it will grip the road better then the Honda. Sorry.

[@Toyota4Life]

oopsisuckeditagain I'm not sure why that's ironic. My 2JZGE Toyota Altezza and Toyota MR2 turbo both handle great. So yeah try again.

[@woodworthd2]

Sit in the folding chairs of the Chrysler for a 4+ hour trip and you'll find out why Honda still uses the real chairs. The 3rd row is more comfortable too. I've had 3 mini vans and a real captain style 2nd row is preferred by all that actually have a voice to tell you. If your toddler is in a safety seat, then by all means, use the folding chairs.

[@ryanlittleton5615]

Toyota4Life So you're pissed off because the Odyssey is better than the Sienna?

[@mohammedhannan2263]

Then why the hell would you click on the video!? What are you smoking to say this comment weed?

[@alitartila4151]

Giyio

[@classybitch8888]

Sorry but this vans power was awful. The pickup is so slow even in the touring

[@classybitch8888]

Definitely go with the Sienna

[@ncokojtsiploj4681]

Too many colors don't match

[@TheGomezIndustries]

Why Honda still uses primitive timing belts in their engines.

[@BrandonWest87]

Weren't you saying the same thing on a different Odyssey review video? 😝

[@TheGomezIndustries]

Brandon West I just hate timing belts. A $45,000 car should have at least a more durable chain instead of a belt.

[@BrandonWest87]

@@TheGomezIndustries You wouldn't hear a complaint out of me if timing belts went the way of the dinosaur.

[@alitartila4151]

Pokiui

[@alitartila4151]

Menhukio.koipu

[@WestUCoog]

The Pacifica is a better minivan.

[@highwaycruiser6486]

this can't keep up with Pacifica

[@iceman04m84]

I think Crysler Pacifica hybrid is better

[@vittret7325]

Chyrsler transmission - no thx.

[@christopherbrown1391]

Vit Tret Honda and Chrysler out source this trans from a top transmission company that also put their products in top luxury car in the world.

[@ghavrinaumi9518]

Ultimate is GOD. ubiquitous is GOD. Mother Nature is GOD.

[@SubieandFriends]

Hey fool it’s a 3.5 v6 not a 3.6 that’s the Chrysler van that uses a 3.6 pentastar v6