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2018 KTM 250 XC-W TPI Review & MPG Test

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Rocky Mountain ATV MC

Rocky Mountain ATV MC

6 жыл бұрын

KTM 250 EFI TPI Test - We got our hands on the NEW KTM 250 XC-W TPI (Transfer Port Injection) Fuel Injected two-stroke Dirt Bike. Justin rides the New KTM 250XC-W TPI side by side with a 2015 KTM 300xc to compare fuel economy and run it through its paces. Watch the video to see the new KTM TPI Dirt Bike Ride Review and the end results.
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@DirtBikeChannel
@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work Justin. We are noticing the same thing you are with the EFI and fuel consumption. It's a negligible difference from what I've seen on both the Husky TE250i and the KTM 250 XC-W TPI that I've been testing.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle. Not that the fuel consumption is bad, but I was hoping it would be better. Not a deal breaker. it is a sweet bike for sure! - Justin
@neilhintz8785
@neilhintz8785 6 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain ATV MC fuel consumption on the TPI is much better than the carb engine at lower engine speeds, tight going off the pipe. This is where the carb engine traditionally spits fuel out the exhaust port. Up in the revs there is more transfer port gas inertia, so similar results as a carburetor. At this point fuel is starting to enter the A ports as well due to the long injector on time required, so similar gas milage.
@DiDoSvK
@DiDoSvK 6 жыл бұрын
Great review.Thank you for the fuel consumption comparison,that's what I wanted to know.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
thanks. Yeah, nothing special on fuel consumption. However it seems very efficient on the 2-stroke oil. It uses very little.
@Ahhtheserenity
@Ahhtheserenity 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for your video, made my mind up on what to get now
@kaidenheagyfishingandoutdo4118
@kaidenheagyfishingandoutdo4118 6 жыл бұрын
Love your vids
@SoilworkZA01
@SoilworkZA01 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding the suspension. Weight yourself in full riding gear with a full hydropack to get your weight for the springs. Setting the bike up for your weight without gear is not the way to do it
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
Great call! thanks
@georgtte5912
@georgtte5912 6 жыл бұрын
I am getting 50 mpg riding in the NJ Pinelands average speed 35 mph
@Suzuk1r1der
@Suzuk1r1der 5 жыл бұрын
how are you getting 50mpg out of a 250 2stroke please tell me
@davezysk4220
@davezysk4220 5 жыл бұрын
More more I watch these videos I'm serious about buying one of these I have a 2015 FX 250 love the bike but I'm looking to get back in a two stroke seen a lot of good reviews would like to have it for a spare bike
@2strksrule
@2strksrule 6 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see the same test done twice. Swapping riders. I ride with a couple of identical bikes and consumption varies based on who is on them. Not so much weight as riding style. Great review anyways.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks *Dale Wells* for the suggestion. Thanks for watching.
@jimmiller3594
@jimmiller3594 5 жыл бұрын
i had the bike since january. I live in NJ and I am getting around 50mpg
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 5 жыл бұрын
*jim miller* that is awesome!
@alexc6582
@alexc6582 4 жыл бұрын
Does it have much low end grunt? I'm deciding over this or the 250 xc. I'm a trail/Enduro rider
@jeffirish7236
@jeffirish7236 6 жыл бұрын
Have you gotten a chance to compare the 250 to the new 300 tpi? Not sure what one I want.
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro 6 жыл бұрын
Surprised the fuel economy on the TPI is not much better than the carb bike. I found in my tests that the Lectron carb has significantly better mileage than the stock carb.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
After setting the float better and jetting with a JD jet kit, we got the carbureted bike running way better with way better fuel economy than it did stock (stock was horrible).
@johnnyreb86
@johnnyreb86 5 жыл бұрын
PNW Enduro I just got my te300i and I’ve seen as high as 45 mpg and as low as 30mpg. Depends on the type of riding. I had a fe350s and saw a high of 72mpg and low of 25mpg. It’s all about that right wrist.
@mixalis6168
@mixalis6168 6 жыл бұрын
Why the 250, and not a 300 TPI ??? Would be also interesting to see, KTM v Husky ??
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
Because the 300 TPI isn't available in the USA for 2018. Maybe next year. Besides, I like how the 250 revs better than the 300....Justin
@pierceb2105
@pierceb2105 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen reviews raving about the 300, but felt like the power hit on the 250 is too soft (leaving it feeling underpowered). Personally, I prefer 250 two strokes over 300s.
@ManAndMachine23
@ManAndMachine23 6 жыл бұрын
What the replacement cost on the oil pump?
@TFogguys
@TFogguys 6 жыл бұрын
KTM lists it at $125.99 USD
@glennalderton1313
@glennalderton1313 6 жыл бұрын
Geez! For us guys here in Australia that just about doubled the top end rebuild cost. :-(
@TheSpanishmuscle
@TheSpanishmuscle 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha yeah that would be over $300 down under!
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
We currently sell the KTM OIL PUMP for $95.75 on our website. Thanks
@glennalderton1313
@glennalderton1313 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks RMATV, I'll keep you guys in mind. Posted it on dirtbikeworld.net as well. We've only just got the i models in the country so I expect that it will be 6 months for demand to start.
@utdesertghost199
@utdesertghost199 6 жыл бұрын
Good info, Have you had the chance to play with the power valve adjustment or springs to see if it compares similarly to the carb versions?
@Marc-hp3ne
@Marc-hp3ne 6 жыл бұрын
Phillip Bell i read in the Motocross Magazine that the fuel injected bikes do not have the interchangeable springs any more. All is done via the fuel injection.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
They usually come with optional springs, but this did not, so what @Marcel said makes sense.....Justin
@utdesertghost199
@utdesertghost199 6 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain ATV MC So there would be no real power valve adjustment capability as the power valve is a mechanical device and it's rate of opening is controlled by spring tension. To soften or harden the hit would then be controlled by mapping/ignition control rather than mechanical and mapping control as I have on my Beta, correct??
@Marc-hp3ne
@Marc-hp3ne 6 жыл бұрын
Phillip Bell pretty much yes.
@TheJumpn
@TheJumpn 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much that oil pump will cost to replace.
@mestandard
@mestandard 6 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain has them in stock for $96
@Twistedmetallic
@Twistedmetallic 6 жыл бұрын
Think the MPG is better on the street. Here in europa they are road legal.
@lrawley1959
@lrawley1959 6 жыл бұрын
Where is this place you rode?
@TechEnduro
@TechEnduro 6 жыл бұрын
You say you weigh 140lbs. Is that without gear on? Cause when I ride I have on about 25 lbs of gear (boots, tools, helmet, water etc) if so you're probably in or close to the correct range as those are on bike weights.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
without gear soaking wet! Not doubt the gear adds weight.... Justin
@adambatchelder4121
@adambatchelder4121 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm all your test bikes got less milage than my 250xw carbureted but I'm pretty picky about jetting.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
How it is ridden makes a huge difference on consumption. You can't really compare unless they are ridden the same. that is why we did this loop together. the sandy trails no doubt sucked the gas. I get great MPG when riding low RPMs in the mountains..... Justin
@alexgroezinger762
@alexgroezinger762 6 жыл бұрын
Do one on the 500
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
We did one comparing the Husky and KTM 500 (501). check that out. Bike build coming soon on both.
@alexgroezinger762
@alexgroezinger762 6 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain ATV MC mpg?
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
Check out min 8:24
@alexgroezinger762
@alexgroezinger762 6 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain ATV MC top speed?
@sao007
@sao007 5 жыл бұрын
You save oil not gas
@robmanzanares
@robmanzanares 6 жыл бұрын
Where are you riding? We travel north from Henderson, Nevada.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
This was near Delta Utah
@Kyle-pl6rl
@Kyle-pl6rl 6 жыл бұрын
Man, the mileage is almost a deal breaker for me.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, nothing special....Justin
@RelentlessCo
@RelentlessCo 6 жыл бұрын
To all you guys out there who buy new bikes . Do you usually buy them brand new cash or finance them ? Not including people who trade in .
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro 6 жыл бұрын
I always pay in cash. My rule is if I don't have enough money at the time I don't buy it until I do. I never finance toys.
@RelentlessCo
@RelentlessCo 6 жыл бұрын
PNW Enduro nice to know man
@RS-io6vm
@RS-io6vm 6 жыл бұрын
Love it but I can buy 3 grooms for this price. 3 grooms will last me 10 years total with no real $$$ invested. But I still wish I could have one one day
@chriscardoza9714
@chriscardoza9714 6 жыл бұрын
What if it sits more than you ride it just wandering because l only ride myself mybe 4 times a year just wandering if you would have to change that stuff out anyway..
@RelentlessCo
@RelentlessCo 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Cardoza why buy a brand new bike you only ride 4 times lol ?
@adriankey
@adriankey 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just can buy things Chris. And I think it’s a very good question. Would you or anybody have a good answer for it?
@2wheelsoffroad730
@2wheelsoffroad730 6 жыл бұрын
Thats a good question. If you're only riding that much its hard to say. KTM is usually conservative in their maintenance schedule (for everyday type of riders). I would be concerned that it would gum up if just left sitting for that long. It only goes through a tank of oil every 5-8 tanks of gas. So you'd might not even use the initial tank of oil if you're only riding it 4 times a year. I'd probably get a carb bike so that you could easily drain things or add stabilizers to your gas so that you don't have to worry about gumming up expensive EFI parts.
@alexgroezinger762
@alexgroezinger762 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any ideas on how to make them more fuel efficient
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
I don't. Don't get me wrong, it gets as good as you can get on a properly jetted 2-stroke. It isn't worse, maybe a tad better....Justin.
@olddirtbiker5088
@olddirtbiker5088 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the MPG is that bad. Would you ever carry extra gas? I have no experience with 2 strokes, but I think my 2004 carburated WR450 gets about 60-70 MPG as far as I can tell.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
In the mountains at lowr RPMs, I expect the bike to get at least 80 miles out of the stock tank. the sand I was in eats the fuel.
@falc0n_forcegaming839
@falc0n_forcegaming839 3 жыл бұрын
Justin rides better than face
@tonythegreat8481
@tonythegreat8481 6 жыл бұрын
it looks like you are riding on hamburger hill. that place looks like ground zero.
@rmatvmc
@rmatvmc 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure where that is. This is out by Delta Utah.
@tonythegreat8481
@tonythegreat8481 6 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain ATV MC hamburger hill is in Vietnam. We bombed it so thouroghly that it looked like a pile sand.
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