2019-06-14 NSFRI NSDRM - What Can You Learn From a Daydream?

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Synopsis
After the dream work, Pierre gives a mini-talk on a Friday night summarizing the points about what to get out of daydreams, in response to a question from EricG earlier in the evening.
At the end there is also some consideration for a couple of minutes (mostly with DavidC) about Achilles and midwifery in Book 9 of the Iliad (which we will be continuing with next week).
[No dream work next week: We'll be working on Book 9 (and 11 if we have time), and Homer's vision of Achilles' problem.]
Highlights
4 Essential things that are important to know about daydreams
Preceding: What preceeded the daydream?
Afterwards: What was it like after it was over?
State-of-Mind / Beginning Image: You must always give a full description of the image of yourself in the beginning of the daydream where you first appear. This image connotes a state of mind.
Failure: Every daydream ends in a failure
Write these four out.
Additional Points
The story/content/drama of the daydream is not necessary to know or review in order to get the main point of the daydream. However, it may optionally be reviewed afterwards (perhaps in private) to reveal additional analogies / information, now, given the main point.
Implicit in that first image of yourself / state-of-mind is that entire drama.
Therefore a daydream is of vital importance, because it's telling you that you want to discover where that image comes from and its personal history.
Where does it come from? Where does it get its power? You'll only discover this if you find its origin.
Then you want to investigate / be aware of where this image and state-of-mind plays itself out in your life, because then you are setting up in your mind patterns of behavior. And you can just step into them in reality, whether you like it or not, since you've been training yourself through daydreams what to do. These scenes in your life are always dangerous, because they come out of that image.
“A fantasy of a desire”: Just another name of a daydream.
“A plan?” This is not a daydream because daydreams never have plans that you can follow.
It helps to review them with another person (a midwife), because then you are making it real to yourself. That's the Logos. Once you put it into words, you are creating into words your state. That's participating in the Logos.
The reason you need a midwife (both for daydreams and dreams) is because (by yourself) the way you are going to be think in your reasoning is by using the very terms which are suspect (i.e., your “personal language”. And someone else is more likely to spot that than you.
The effect of putting it into words. How important? Why?
Because you are telling yourself something about yourself that you have never said about yourself, which once you put it into words, changes yourself. And separates that which is not yourself from yourself. It dissolves the false conclusion(s) about yourself. Because up to that time you are carrying a falsehood about yourself which you were not seeing, but which was not real.
Preview of Next week: Iliad Book 9 and Homer's vision of Achilles' problem
DavidC: In book 9 you can see SOM inside a SOM inside a SOM and a Story inside a story inside a story
PG: The way to look at B9: What would happen if I invited people who knew me, and each one of them knew I had a problem, and they're addressing it, and they're bringing everything they know about me, and sharing it? That's what's going on in Book 9. So we have analogies, family dynamics, history, reapplication also culturally.. Esp. culturally, because everybody there knows Achilles' problem, and no one is upset over it.
DC: In Book 9 specific mention is made of stories about Milagros, and uncontrolled justice-related anger, and its consequences which can be obtained through persuasion and payment.

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pierre is awesome. I love his videos.