2019 Hobie Outback vs Old Outback In Depth Comparison

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

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[@aseelali7904]

Hi , may I know how much the outback16? !!

[@dmdfishin]

Great comparison bro, you did an awesome job with this video.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks brother. I appreciate you stopping by. Too bad I'm going to have to sell one soon. Unless I can come with a reason why I need two kayaks and a boat 😜.

[@dixee6498]

Tommy thank you for this review. I just put a down payment on a 2019 Outback earlier today and wondered what other differences there were besides the obvious. But did a demo at the dealer and turns out its still a sweet yak. Thank you again and keep up the good work bro.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

You are very welcome. I enjoy making these videos.I'll be doing a speed comparison between them soon. Congrats on making a decision on the Outback. It's an awesome yak. I just wish I had more time to use mine.

[@lyubakavideo]

So much in-depth product knowledge ❤️💯 love how neat everything about you is!

[@rocnoir4233]

I've owned a few from each era and wound up selling my 2019 Outback to go back to a 2015 Outback. Better suited to gummy shark fishing (Aussie) and a dryer ride. Both have their pros and cons of course! Great comparison.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thank you. I still have both of them. I'm planning to sell the 2016. I also have a PA12 360 and use that mostly now. I think my wife would be more comfortable in the 2019. I won't be taking her offshore.

[@Calamiti999Fine]

You did a super awesome job on this video, & thanks again for doing the seat height comparison. Both of your kayaks are really nice, & that 2016 is still a solid model!! We’ll be going down to demo the 2019 here in Houston this weekend. So glad I subbed your channel before buying a new kayak!!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

No problem. I remember someone asking about the seat on the FB Group. Thanks for you question. Thank you for the positive feedback. I really appreciate it. I really enjoy making these videos. This one really helped me appreciate what I paid for with these kayaks. Hobie really put in a lot of effort to make an awesome kayak. You really do pay for what you get. I still love my 2016, but the 2019 updates are pretty awesome. I'll make sure to share my experiences with my Outback a long the way. I finally experienced a set back that I have to figure out, which you will see soon.

[@Calamiti999Fine]

TomyTek Outdoors , Exactly what I was trying to find out on the seat height comparison. Thanks again

[@MNCasaPro]

At 7:33 you could take the screw out of the rod holder cover, then put one twist on the tab (and screw it back down (at that slight offline angle). After that, when you pull it out of the hole, it should flip out of the way.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for the heads up. They actually don't get in the way anymore. My Outback was a few days old when I shot the video. I think they just became more pliable over time. I may have even loosened the screw a little at some point. I appreciate your advice. It will help others that just got one.

[@FishinNStuff]

I have the 2015 in red if it was beside your 16 we would get em mixed up lol I love my 15 , I really like the new transducer mount and I would really like a reverse on mine but it is what it is lol I cant upgrade I have a boat I use most the time but still love kayaking I was thinking they look like the are catering to the fresh water bass fishermen changing the hull the way they did when in reality the saltwater fishermen made em what they are the Outback has been around a long time . Not knocking fresh water fishing , it's what I do lol

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Even the 2018 looks the same. It just comes with a 180 drive instead. I have a boat too, but I'm the opposite. I haven't used my boat yet this year. I've only done a bunch of maintenance on it. I hope to use it a few times before the end of the year. It does seem like they made the new one more of an inshore type kayak. Water comes over the bow in chop. You have to add a different seal to keep water out. I fish both fresh and salt. I'm still not sure which one I like best yet, so I'm keeping both until next spring.

[@san.shape.]

Really good depth comparison!! I love this video, really enjoyable to watch! Good work, just subbed to see more and stay in touch! x :)

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thank you for stopping by. I really appreciate it. Both of these are great tool for getting in some exercise and enjoying the outdoors at the same time. If you catch a fish, you bring home a healthy dinner 😀

[@TheMrpalid]

I like the old. I mount 4 Scotty 241 bases and the new has all that mounting area taken up by gear track

[@BlueSummitOutdoors]

a good thorough comparison! good work.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks man. I appreciate your feedback.

[@DannyBFishing]

Great comparison man! You compared things I didnt even think about haha. I'm going to test one on the water this weekend which should be fun

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks man. I appreciate the positive feedback. It was a lot to put together, but it helped me better understand what you're getting. You really do pay for what you get. Hobie put a lot of effort into make an awesome kayak. You're gonna have fun when you do the demo. You might walk away with one on order 😜

[@murderinc.hunting7686]

You weren't kidding man, that was really in depth. Great job though!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks man. It was a lot to put together. I hope it answers questions a lot of people had.

[@ThienCao850]

Thanks for the walk through! On the 2019, I saw that it's a flatter hull around the mirage drive and transducer. Is that correct?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

No problem. I was glad to make this video. Both areas are recessed to help protect the miragedrive and transducer.

[@fishfinder401]

This was an amazing video, you showed exactly what I was looking for!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thank you for the positive feedback. I'm glad it helped out.

[@ReelDealFishing]

Awesome video👍👍

[@fishingtherapy4565]

Which is better in the water? Say if I were to go in the Atlantic or Lake Michigan? Which is better for current(river)?

[@RWoodOutdoors]

Nice thorough comparison!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for watching. It was a lot to put together, but I had fun doing it.

[@pdxfisher1]

Very nicely done! Can you please tell us if the depth of the two rectangular hatches is the same (and what the depth is)?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for watching. I'll get them for you this evening after work.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

@pdxfisher1 Sorry for the delay. I've been working late the past few days. In the 2019, it's 4 7/8" in the middle and on the sides, it's 4 1/8". I'll get the measurements of my old one tomorrow. It's in an awkward location to get a good measurement without taking a bunch of stuff out of my garage.

[@FoxxCross]

Hey man! Just a heads up, when you add your round hatch be sure to drop your rudder and unpin the bungee on the cable. I learned the hard way they have ran the cord nearly right down the middle of the boat. Tight lines!~

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for the heads up. I was going to wait to hear from hobie. Are there any other cables or other things to worry about? I'd like to do this now, so I can figure out how I'm going to run the steering for my Bixpy.

[@FoxxCross]

The right and left steering are just to the outside of where the hatch goes in independent nylon tubes under the storage area. They are out of the way of where you have to cut. Nothing is under the gunnels of the boat to worry about drilling into that I can tell.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thank you for the details. I really appreciate it. I may try to install it over the weekend. Having access back there will allow me to take care of my Bixpy Jet steering. Then I can see if Boonedox landing gear will fit back there.

[@FoxxCross]

@@TomyTekOutdoors Welcome dude~ Good luck!

[@jdalsII]

A fellow Marylander pinoy doing kayak videos! Hell yes!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Yeah man! There are quite a few of us in the DMV area. Where do you like to fish? I fish everywhere for everything, but have become addicted to snakehead fishing.

[@jdalsII]

TomyTek Outdoors I fish all over. I’m from AA. Work in Moco. But live in Bel Air, where I do most of my fishing. Deer Creek, Susquehanna, Bush River, Upper Chesapeake Bay and Baltimore County. I’d like to get down to the waters in Anne Arundel more. I’m about to pull the trigger on a 2019 Outback. But that price tag on the Pelican Catch 130 HD has my wallet in mind. Opinion?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

@@jdalsII There are snakehead up your way as well. I'll eventually venture up that way to target them. The 2019 Outback is pretty awesome, but on the expensive side. They even raised the price b/c of the tariffs supposedly. The Catch 130 is pretty nice too for the price. There are a lot of options now for more affordable pedal kayaks. The Old topwater PDL is a nice kayak for the price. They have the best warranty on their drive. I demoed one and it's pretty nice. You just have to get used to the bicycle peddling motion.

[@jdalsII]

TomyTek Outdoors I’ve narrowed it it down between the outback and the compass. I like the open deck of the compass, but I’m afraid I won’t have anything to grow into with the features of the outback. Thoughts?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

@@jdalsII I demoed the compass as well. Its cheaper than the Outback and much lighter. The seat is not as comfortable and it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. I added quite a bit to my 2016 Outback to suite my needs. I didn't have to do much on my 2019. I do tend to have lot of gadgets on my kayak. I don't like the rudder and what I had to do to use my Bixpy Jet on my 2019. The compass will be more portable and easier on your pocket. If you don't need all the bells and whistles and want to keep it simple, the compass is a good choice. There are quite a few used Hobies for sale right now. You might be able to find a good price on a used one that's rigged. I've seen some good deals on the older Outbacks. If you can, demo them to see which one you like best.

[@northwy]

Thanks. Great video.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for stopping by. I really appreciate.

[@robertmoore1486]

I have a red 2016 as well with turbo fins. I do a lot of Offshore and as much as I like it, it feels like a tug boat what I have several miles to go. How does the 2019 glide feel compared to the 2016?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for watching. The 2019 is much faster than the 2016. It cuts through waves much better. The downside is that more water comes over the bow, since it cuts through the waves instead of rolling over them. Water can get in the front hatch if you bought the earlier Outbacks. If you buy them now, they should come with the extra front hatch seal already installed. They sent me one for free, but I have to install it myself or bring it to my dealer. It also tracks way better if you paddle. You can see this in my on the water test video kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJu3dWCcaNd5e8U.

[@johncal9403]

I see your truck in the background, do you transport it in the bed, do you have any photos of how you transport, how big is your bed? I have a 6’6” inch bed. Thanks

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

My bed is 5' and I use a Boonedox T-bone bed extender. Here's a video showing how I load my 2019 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKi7Z2mBqriMeJo. Here's another video showing my T-bone in more detail loading my 2016 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZrSYqCbj5dnm9k. Thanks for stopping by.

[@MuskyHans]

Nice in depth comparison

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for dropping by. I really appreciate it.

[@shaon_rahman_khan]

I just looked it up on Amazon. Holy crap!!! lol. Great job on the comparing these two. Folks who has some pretty pennies should have easier times now

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks man. This video was a lot of work to make, but I hope it helps people when they decide to get one. These kayaks are top notch and well worth it. You will see when I take you out on one 😀

[@suicidebites4082]

So all in all is the older 5-10 years older Hobie reliable and worth buying used? I'm about to pick one up someone with an older Hobie please check in lol

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

It all depends on the condition of the kayak. Which model and year are your looking at? Check for deep scratches and cracks. Pay close attention to the scupper area where the cart would be inserted and where the seat touches the hull. If you plan to add a motor, make sure you get a bill of sale from the seller. Each state is different, so check to see what needs to be on the bill of sale to register your kayak. You should also check to see what other information you need to register it. I have friends that still use their 2015 Outbacks. I still use my 2019 Outback.

[@Machria23]

I know this was old, BUT, how about the in water stability, and speed….??

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Here's a video where I show my maiden voyage kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJu3dWCcaNd5e8U. I don't show stability in the video. The Outback is pretty stable as long as you don't over reach. I'm able to stand it in comfortable. You have to get use to standing up and getting your balance. I friend of mine doesn't like standing in it, but I have no problem.

[@BrandonBarton13]

Love the 2019!!!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

It's been an awesome kayak so far. Thanks for stopping by. I really appreciate

[@milton_quadros]

Great video. Unfortunately, the Hobie Outback, Hobie's most versatile kayak, died in 2018. They started using its name on a kayak that is a shadow of what the Outback was. This "new" Outback froi was made prioritizing the sale of accessories, with its immensely buoyant stern that makes the bow submerge at the slightest swell, a large and heavy kayak with less secondary stability much closer to the Hobie PA. I had the 2014, 2016 models and I now have a 2018 which I take very good care of so I don't have to go for a Revolution 13. I hope that the Hobie is sold to a group that is in the nautical sector and not in investments so that we can return to have Hobart "Hobie" Alter products and behavior

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thank you. I was a bit disappointed with the wet ride of the new Outback. I've heard some people having issues with warranties after Hobie was bought. I haven't had to claim anything, so I don't know myself. I now use my PA360 most of the time now. My wife claimed the Outback, but I don't take her out unless conditions are optimal. We'll have to see what happens with the new ownership.

[@milton_quadros]

@@TomyTekOutdoors There is a rumor that Pelikan will buy Hobie. I hope it is true.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

@@milton_quadros really. I just hope the quality and service is good with whoever owns them.

[@malaiku121]

Which of the two kayaks do you find best for offshore fishing?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

To be honest, I don't really go offshore fishing, so I can't say from personal experience. There are a lot of guys that do it with no problem. The biggest problem early on was water getting into the front hatch. Hobie now ships them from the factory with the front hatch seal and that fixes the problem. I heard the some guys still getting water in from the hardware, so they removed and seal everything with marine goop and now everything is water tight. The older Outback will roll over and bounce on swells, while the new Outback will plow into it and water will come over. That is the big change for the hull, which makes it faster, but the trade off is cutting though waves with a wetter ride. Here's a good video showing an offshore experience early on with the new Outback kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4u6i3Shrt6bj7c. This will give you an idea of what I'm talking about.

[@jonyer1980]

Imo, a well dressed Revo13 is better for offshore because of its speed and secundary stability.

[@adamburhani5103]

How is the steering in current compared to the 2018?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

I have the sailing rudder on my 2016. It turns a little better with the sailing rudder. The 2019 still turns well. The only current I really get are tide changes. I haven't been in anything that really rips yet. I'm happy with the turning ability of both.

[@wanderingearl01]

How's the stability of the 2019 compared to the 2016?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Both of them at pretty stable, but the 2019 is more stable than the 2016. I'm able to stand in both of them.

[@manny4491]

First Class Job!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thank you. I appreciate your feedback.

[@gowrestle160]

hey man, so after about a year and a half of use do you think it was worth the upgrade?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

For my needs, I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, the 2019 is a nice kayak and comes pretty much ready to go. It's more stable and faster. I don't like the rudder on the 2019. I hate having to use the Outback loader. I forgot to use it a few times. It took a bit for me to figure out the best way to mount and steer my Bixpy Jet. If you plan to launch in big surf, it's going to be a wet ride. For the way I fish and crab, my 2016 does what I need. I also just got the PA360 and it's amazing. I will likely sell my 2019 and keep my 2016. I'm will be making a video about this soon. Thanks for watching.

[@benruthlessburger8905]

TomyTek Outdoors same .. I regret selling my 2016

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

@@benruthlessburger8905 I've seen some really good deals on older Outbacks. You might be able to find a good deal on one.

[@benruthlessburger8905]

TomyTek Outdoors true but mines was well kept and keel was still like new. I had mines set up with a hobie sailing rudder moded to fit the bixby. Hook 4 fish finder and fold/stow with the package. Don’t get me wrong I think the new outbacks are nice but I take the old one any day. Like you said don’t really like the rudder system and that wet ride. I like the sidewall from the old outback because it’s makes you feel secure. I recently tested the hobie pro angler 12 2019 and the predator pdl, almost flip twice on the pdl. Didn’t like the pro angler feels sluggish and top heavy. After testing two top of the line kayak with different drives I regreted selling my old outback lol. Don’t know what you got till it’s gone.

[@AliexFolgueira]

Gonna take me some time to watch it lol

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Haha! It was a lot to cover. I answered your question about the height of the gunnel inside.

[@lujangaming2354]

Big Like 3

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for dropping by. I really appreciate it.

[@frankshanks9726]

Deck width in standing area

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

On the 2019 it's 19 inches. On the 2016 it's almost 20 right in front of the seat. then it tapers towards the front to 16 1/2 inches.

[@MrEemancing]

Good friend.. For. Fishing

[@IIrandhandleII]

speed?

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Here's a speed test on my 2019 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJu3dWCcaNd5e8U. I'll be doing a speed comparison video of both in the near future. This video shows physical comparisons of both from questions asked on a Facebook group.

[@learntolearn6015]

773... Nice video! Very informative👍

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for stopping by. I really appreciate it.

[@JamesDonatelli]

Nice to know about the difference in cupholders and other features between the new and old models but the comparison fails to show the most important park of a kayak, the seaworthiness of it !!!

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Thanks for watching. I was asked a bunch of question about both when I bought my 2019, so that's when I decided to make this video to answer all of the questions. I mostly fish the Chesapeake Bay and it's tributaries, so I wouldn't be able to do a true sea test. I wish the coast were closer to me. The waves in the Chesapeake Bay are quite different from the ocean. If there is anything specific that you would like to see, please let me know and I can include it in a future video. To be honest, I will not go out in bad conditions just to get a bunch of views on a video. It's not worth it. I'll either find a sheltered place to fish or stay home.

[@kenz1031]

Red horse beer is better 😛

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

I have to agree with you on that 😁 Check out my shirt at the beginning of this video 😜 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnLHn4Saq6-LnbM

[@WereAllThatBored]

Ill take the 19 over the 16 any day. Can always make wave breakers after the fact.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

Everything has been great so far. The only issue I have at the moment is how my Bixpy Jet is going to work. It looks like I'll have to use the Bixpy Jet steering. That's what prompted me to install the hatch in the back. Time will tell. I'll provide an update after I've used it a few times.

[@WereAllThatBored]

TomyTek Outdoors on my Quest I did the same thing. 5 pin waterproof trailer plug installed on the hatch. But with the Quest i had foot steering. I have a 19 Outback and am trying to figure out how to make the rudder cap link up with a motor. I think it can be done.

[@TomyTekOutdoors]

I think it should be possible as well. I will be taking a look at it today. Which mount did you use to mount it to the back of your 2019? I used the Slipstream mount by Easy Mount. You can see it my one of my previous videos.

[@WereAllThatBored]

TomyTek Outdoors I plan on using the one I made ten years ago. My oldest video is of the infusion process. Likely going to modify it to work with an H rail and a 40 pound pull magnet for when you hit objects.