2019 Veloster N vs Golf GTI vs Subaru WRX // The $30K Question

[@reynaldo1209]

Respect to Kia/Hyundai for attacking all car segments and actually making good vehicles

[@orxanmuradl1792]

Hyundai makes cars almost in high standarts,but kia is simply garbage.

[@ravenstylea2]

Orxan Muradlı Hyundai owns Kia and sources the same hardware.

[@TaijiArban]

@@orxanmuradl1792 they are practically the same brand...just different bodies and designs.

[@Strome88]

@@orxanmuradl1792 Hyundai is crap, any serious mechanic will tell you this

[@pleezoe]

J4CKR4881T Ur full of shyt, any serious person will tell u that.

[@Lonespark]

The fact that both of you own a Miata makes me more confident in your appraisal of everything you review.

[@ThrottleHouse]

Funny. Someone commented before you that said that our opinions are invalid because we own Miatas. We will never know if we are credible I guess...

[@R1Armadill0]

@@ThrottleHouse a Miata in the right hands...

[@gregblack8550]

Agree here . But the question is what should be my drive to work car? I’m 58 and the Miata stays but not going to daily it anymore. The n is more than I want to spend. Thinking about a used 2018 si for about 20k ?know with a tuner and a clutch upgrade the si is over 260 hp.

[@justinsmith1001]

@@gregblack8550 Bought the SI, sold it for a WRX. The WRX I enjoy more, the SI was too sedate feeling for my liking even with a stage 1 OTS tune. In retrospect, I would probably buy a Civic Type R.

[@nicolasb5075]

@@justinsmith1001 Did you tune the WRX? How tolerable is the rev hang?

[@CrimsonDalek]

Wish they'd bring back the WRX hatchback, I'd buy one today

[@DanUtley]

Houdini RIGHT?! Stupid Subaru. Why make the Impreza in a hatch but not the WRX? Makes no sense...

[@brekkand]

Only if it was the wider body. Not the last body style

[@TheKrisBunch]

That ship has sailed. Get over it n

[@becraftcorey]

@@DanUtley makes a lot of sense when you look at sales they plane dont sell a lot of BrZ wrx ,STI it's less then 1% of there sales the none hatch sold better so it saves money to not make two different cars and split the already low sales over all

[@peejayem4700]

Levorg?

[@sukhrobsirodzhidinov550]

“N” stands for Namyang, Korea, where these high-performance machines were designed and engineered

[@MenacingThreat]

I think N also stands for Nurnburg. There’s a specific track there that it’s tuned to drive on.

[@nerraw28]

@ what Hyundai is going 0-60 that fast?

[@로크-f1v]

@@nerraw28 None of hyundai can do that fast. He is just joking that N stands for North Korea and making fun of their recent missile launch. Actually N stands for Nam yang where the hyundai R&D center located, and also its South Korean company 😁

[@Ichibuns]

N stands for "No Survivors"

[@aluisious]

@@MenacingThreat "Nurnburg" eh.

[@danartley6342]

I’ve had the Veloster N now for almost 3000 miles in less than 2 months. Every drive not stuck in traffic is a pure adrenaline rush and am really glad I bought it. I’m thinking it’s reliability should be good because it’s now their flagship seller sport hatch for the world to see. It is stiff and I still haven’t had a real long distance drive in it ... but I love it! The quote that every drive feels like being on a track hits the mark for me.

[@tonymontana4595]

As always,, you guys are spot on with your reviews. The one thing you guys always overlook however is long term ownership for those of us that buy and drive their cars into the ground. I have owned 3 new cars and all three were sold around the 200k mile mark (Acura and Hyundais). All three were great and never left me stranded or had me spend hardly anything in repairs. I have never owned a VW or Subaru but from what I have heard from friends Subarus are better then average in quality/ownership issues while VWs are poor in those areas. Having a dependable vehicle is something I expect these days especially at these price points. Please bring up factory warranties when discussing price. Keep up the great work.

[@MrGWAMPO]

Race my A4

[@johndc2998]

Owned my hatch for 8 years now and it's awesome. People used to roast me so bad now it gets love

[@ughToxic]

i really want to get one as my first car!!!!!!

[@anthonykiedis1765]

​@@MrGWAMPO it's probably broken down the majority of the time

[@IsolestiK]

Out of these 3, Veloster N has the best sound!

[@pauld6860]

Add catback into a nameless muffler delete to the WRX. Priceless sound, brings out the boxer.

[@Snadzies]

@@pauld6860 No, the WRX lost a lot when they went to equal length headers and even an aftermarket exhaust doesn't completely make up for it. (2002 and 2018 WRX owner)

[@pauld6860]

@@Snadzies what about with a stage 1 tune?

[@tjgotkicks2057]

But the worst body

[@johnwelk6675]

Lolol. Jokes

[@CarStory]

The overdub voice in the beginning was almost as good as a KungFu movie.

[@kawh8719]

I loved it

[@MrCoolidgeYo]

They should do the intro like this every time with ridiculous accents!

[@chambinabi9646]

I agree

[@chesterescobar5068]

Lol

[@squirreldog1596]

I want a Veloster N. My heart says Subaru, and the adult in me says GTI, but that Veloster N despite the Hyundai badge, is so badass

[@LowerYourExpectationsPleb]

"despite the Hyunday badge" says the child in you

[@junolena]

I have subaru sti but love to buy i30N as 2nd car. Hyundai USA have no plan to bring i30N though. Oh, veloster N and i30 N both are ok with warranty if you drive in track. Not much of car maker allow track use for warranty though.

[@FyukYiu]

I sold my 2015 Veloster R Spec to pick up a 2019 WRX. Part of me wanted a GTI but part of me really wanted the WRX. The Veloster N is unproven to me. Aftermarket was limited with the first gen Veloster and I am not sure how the second gen and the N will be. WRX and GTI have and will continue to have aftermarket for years.

[@hairychesticles1]

@@FyukYiu carful not to blow up that wrx engine with all that aftermarket stuff to fast. They like to do that

[@FyukYiu]

hairychesticles1 thanks for the heads up

[@muznick]

For a daily driver, I would pick the GTI. If I was twenty years younger, the Veloster N.

[@13vex]

I’m so torn between the two. I can still fit drywall in the gti somehow but the veloster has a god damn exhaust cutoff stock! But the gti is a lot better looking...

[@ConfessorEpicness]

I picked the GTI for a daily driver in 2015 right off the truck, All highway miles and never raced it. Got on the throttle a little on the on-ramps but thats about it. last month at 63,000 miles it ate itself when I started it at work and VW told me to fuck off when I spoke to them. Under the best possible conditions the GTI is likely to fail before 100,000 miles which is why VW only warranties their product for 30,000 miles full and 60,000 miles power train.

[@sgtpepper6379]

Vw is trash bro. The other two cars will last twice as long. That's not even exaggerating. I mean, if you're down for that, by all means get it. Just know what you're getting into. A heap of trash.

[@andrewsugerman1126]

@ConfessorEpicness What failed on the car?

[@Blackdawn80]

I couldn’t have said it better. The GTI is definitely a cut everything, even something like a CTR purely based on its mature Hatchback design. The performance it lacks can be attained with the aftermarket, easily.

[@algreentube]

Out of those three, if I had the money, and becasue I don't want to be like everyone else......THE VELOSTER N I would buy hands down. This is not to discount the fact that the other two are excellent cars, but the new kid on the block has something the other two don't, and that is the fact that the N is unique and BADASS.

[@nasaa2884]

A decade later, and I'm still astonished at how Hyundai just put their concept car into production like it's no biggie...all the way down to the rims! That was an early sign that they were ambitious, daring and with engineering capabilities to back it. 👍

[@zx-3948]

And now it seems like they're doing it with the N Vision 74, too. Would be really cool to see it actually enter production, as it is only still rumors at this point.

[@bandosz3218]

I'm hating Ford really bad right now 😲 Focus ST, we miss you!

[@SB-py2dh]

For me the MK2 Focus is the best gen.

[@hothatchpa]

USA = NO FIESTA AND NO FOCUS AT ALL. I swear I was born in the wrong country. 😡

[@ultraguy8771]

@@hothatchpa At least you guys have cheap V8 cars, unlike pretty much almost the rest of the world.

[@calebnation7797]

I love my 2014... bought it a month ago at 641XX miles, now almost at 66k

[@marcusvaldes]

@@ultraguy8771 Cheap V8 cars that handle like crap.

[@Osprey1994]

I love my GTI but the Veloster is solid. Claiming that the WRX makes the GTI cower is a bit far fetched. The GTI is a car that I struggle to see myself replacing with anything but another GTI unless the used car market shifts.

[@mattsamuels3607]

☝️👍 agreed

[@LoXHumaN]

Especially since nearly everyone who gets a GTi mods it. Will be interested to see how the veloster n does with some mods and a tune.

[@infowazz]

plus you can mod a GTI real cheap. spend $400 on a Neuspeed plugin and get 40hp. I am getting a 2017 in the spring since new cars are a waste of money.

[@infowazz]

@@LoXHumaN VW is king now. maybe hyundai will have some mods someday.

[@klemzale5370]

Repalce the GTiIwith an R if wifey gives you the green light ;) The R is AWD and will put down the power, even when maped to 400hp, which is a brutal tool at that point

[@bamcintosh1]

Rode in the Veloster N on a track with professional driver and have to say I couldn't of had a bigger smile on my face the whole time! Then drove one at the dealership and had to be the most fun I've had behind the wheel in anything close to the 30k price point. Cant wait to see what else Hyundai N division comes out with!

[@SL4PSYM4XY]

Used to love making fun of KIA/Hyundai. I'm eating some crow and buying a Veloster N in October.

[@DarioSpeed.]

Lol I wish I could

[@SL4PSYM4XY]

I got mine on the 21st. super fun car. highly recommend.

[@Kommander-jb8zc]

Got my Racing Red N with PP! Never looked back it’s best car I’ve owned! Most cool sounding and really fun to drive !

[@Scypher0th]

my condolences

[@zeonmx]

@@Scypher0th He doesn't need one. Dude is clearly enjoying the car.

[@mcbeefenburger1320]

Having owned my 2017 WRX since spring of 2017, this is my opinion: I think this would be a really hard choice if you lived somewhere that gets little to no snow. The WRX is not perfect. While I have no complaints about the rev hang (it's probably there, just doesn't bother me), there are a couple things that I can nitpick about. The stock tune has a weird torque dip just before 5000 RPM before it picks up again, so it's a bit of a hiccup while trying to rev through the whole power band. As per typical Subaru interior, there are squeaks and rattles, especially in the winter (the likely culprit is vibration from the mounting clips). The throttle response is non-linear, making it a little difficult to smoothly accelerate without suddenly launching forward (basically, it's easy to drive either very gently or very aggressively, but difficult to smoothly drive somewhere in between that). I've also found that you have to be really smooth with releasing the clutch, as it tends to want to suddenly grab and make the car lurch. Having said all that, I live in Alberta, where there's snow/ice on the ground about 5-6 months of the year. Having AWD + winter tires is just magical, there's no other word for it. And at the end of the day, the WRX still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. It's a pretty quick car, has a nice rumble at idle but won't piss off the neighbours, and is pretty comfortable as a daily driver. The Harmon Kardon stereo option is also quite pleasant-sounding. In a non-winter situation, I think it would come down to either wanting the better interior of the GTI, or the more racy exciting characteristics of the Veloster. But there's no comparision to the WRX's powertrain advantage in the slippery stuff. Hope this helps someone who's on the fence.

[@SaintMKSII]

McBeefenburger very well said 👌🏼

[@thelaw9937]

So true nothing can beat a subie at snow & im gonna own a wrx sti 2007 when i hit 18 :)

[@andriywe]

nice man.... for my personal opinion if i had to choose from them 3 definitely STi , and if you are going to invest a bit , just imagine what kind of tuning possibilities the Subaru has , that puts a dabble smile on my face :)

[@captvader3006]

McBeefenburger any maintenance issues with your wrx? I’m currently saving to buy my first car but I’ve heard the wrx’s transmission has a bad reputation. Just trying to know if it would be a reliable daily driver 😤

[@Madman6505]

Get a Cobb access port and off the shelf tune. Goodbye Rev hang, power dip, and lurching.

[@canadabear72]

Here in Korea, the Veloster N comes with full leather, heated and ventilated seats, heated steering wheel and premium audio. We also get 6 different colors. Still, I wish we got the i30N. More my style.

[@jamesengelsman9369]

Wow that is epic. What colours?

[@stephenhendricks103]

I share the preference for the i30N. I was disappointed Hyundai chose to send the Veloster to the US, instead.

[@JustinKelly]

The US doesnt get any heated or ventilated anything. Thats a fail on Hyundais part.

[@max.power89]

I am from Germany and I drive a i30n and I love it, but I like the style of the veloster too. If we get both cars over here it would be a hard decision for me to choose one of the two! I bought it with everything you can get for the i30n but the leather seats in the i30n are only heated not ventilated!

[@canadabear72]

@@jamesengelsman9369 We get a white, red, black, silver, mat grey, and "performance blue".

[@RegularCars]

I think i got a DM from you guys but I can't find it.

[@SHKim-xr1jl]

DM? NOT A CAR

[@dbzsuperfan711]

Clever invitation ;)

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Penicillin will cure that

[@hairychesticles1]

U can slide into my DM any day papa john

[@criven3128]

Really like your channel mate!

[@mrjjthor]

For me I'd choose the Veloster N with performance package over the other two.

[@wildzach]

Did i hear "5.2 seconds" for the Velo N?!

[@englematic]

I chose the WRX. Been my dream car ever since I was a kid and when my focus ST got totalled this summer, I pulled the trigger on a WRX.

[@daphenom45]

I looked at the wrx for a while, but it felt slower than my FOST(granted mines modded) but even stock wasn't blown away. How do you like it?

[@englematic]

@@daphenom45 I went from a stock FOST to a stock WRX. The power delivery was identical in my opinion, but the ride in the WRX was so much nicer and well sorted. The ST just a harsh ride. and I had the typical big guy problems (6ft, 230lbs) of the seats in the ST having too much bolstering, while the seats in the WRX are just right. I readily admit the stock tune is hot garbage tho. My first purchase after break in was an access port and an E-Tune for it to get rid of the rev hang and the 4.5K rpm power wall. I do miss the really nice mechanical feeling shifter that was in the ST, but there's some things I can do with the WRX's shifter to make it better. And of course there's the AWD. I took the WRX to the Tail of the Dragon back in october, and it was a joy to drive down on those twisty roads, just diving into corners. And now in Pennsylvania during the winter, with good snow tires fitted the AWD hasn't let me down yet in the snow. (not that the focus ever did either, but the AWD will just pull right through scenarios where the Focus would be spinning tires a bit).

[@junolena]

@@englematic Have 2018 sti in Chicago. Still drove 70mile/hr through snow in highway with snow tires. Nothing beat rally car in tough weather.

[@Byu50]

kelwhitepaw WRX FOR ME EVEN IF IT SLOWER. IT HOLDS THE RESELL VALUE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE OTHER 2. I CARE ABOUT MY WALLE. ALWAYS THERE WILL BE A FASTER CARS OUT THERE.

[@englematic]

@@Byu50 You know you can turn off caps lock right? lol

[@gns942]

Your editing skills are top notch, and I love how you review cars from a performance standpoint because that is what is most important to me when choosing a vehicle.

[@ThrottleHouse]

Thanks!

[@ThatGenericCanadian]

I thought I'd leave a comment and say thanks for all the wonderful WRX reviews over the years. I was finally at a point of looking for a new vehicle, and it's videos like this that, with COVID, helped me decide that I was going for the WRX over the Veloster. I wanted the extra space for my dog which might get squishy in the Veloster, and as someone who cottages in northern Ontario and commutes to work in winter (Not this year lol) the AWD in the WRX just made sense. Like you've said in other videos, the WRX is best in a low trim so I went for the lowest trim that offered a sunroof. You mentioned the stock shifter feeling a little long so I went factory short shifter and it's notchy and is a treat to drive. Only other upgrade I might look into is the OEM sport exhaust for a little more sound since you know, equal length headers. Videos like this and The Straight Pipes helped keep me sane while waiting for the car to arrive, and now I've got a nice WRX in my driveway!

[@Seramics]

Hows ownership experience so far?

[@ThatGenericCanadian]

@@Seramics Honestly been great! A flat tire (my fault) and regular maintenance things have been the only expenses on it, I'm about to roll 60k kms on the odo. Has some typical Subaru quirks, first gear is a bit jerky but my Crosstrek could be the same. Its got a couple rattles inside and the speakers don't sound amazing, but I knew I was getting into that type of thing when I bought it. I had a blast the other night doing some donuts in an empty parking lot after getting some snow, and it got me home safely tonight in a storm. It's exactly the year-round car I was looking for!

[@Seramics]

@@ThatGenericCanadian sounds amazing. Thanks.

[@gregward6715]

The Owen Wilson “oh wowww” sound bite. Nice touch

[@dirtybob1990able]

Picked up the 2019 black rabbit. I love this car and being In it. Also in the USA so it's pretty cool when other vw fans know you have 1 of 3000 that made it here. Such a well made solid car.

[@033Fritz]

I went with the 19 SE, had to give the cloth interior a break for a minute. I Almost bought the rabbit in the Grey suit, but the White was perfect along with a great deal.

[@dirtybob1990able]

@@033Fritz i really liked the look of these cloth seats. i really liked the gray rabbit as well, my brother bought the gray one lol ... that kind of gray and the blue only came in the rabbit. and what vw sends you in the mail when you get a rabbit is kind of cool too. but i just bought a exhaust for mine, comes in this week i cant wait. I test drove a white one. but when i pulled back in and seen the black with black rims and the touches of red in the car... i knew i had to have it lol

[@infowazz]

@@dirtybob1990able do you and your brother work in the same company?

[@dirtybob1990able]

@@infowazz no

[@stevenbruno7710]

pickle rick I bought a Cornflower Blue Rabbit last year, and I’ve loved it ever since. Just a well designed car that has enough fun to send it when you want to, but the practicality of good backseat space and trunk room

[@vivekshankar7478]

The intros are so good, you guys should do intros for Doug DeMuro, Straight Pipes, TFL....all of them. Your production Quality is damn close to Motor Trend.

[@swanblake]

Whoa. Don't touch Savgeese intros. Slow your roll.

[@robb3724]

The Savagegeese intro for the Dodge Demon is the standard to which all others must be compared. Seriously, check it out. It's only one guy doing it as well.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

SavageGeese has the best intros of all the channels.

[@Arestas25]

Straight Pipes?. They are pretty good on their own

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

Don't touch Daddy Doug's trademark 2008 KZbin quality!

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

I have a MK7.5 Golf R and I gladly paid way more than these cost of these 3 cars. It's simply brilliant!

[@TheObiwantoby]

Bought both the WRX and GTI. GTI is so easy to deal with day to day, and the WRX is just a thrashing machine that gets 30mpg still. Great combo.

[@SgtNuker]

"Old" video, but it's the first time I'm seeing it and I'm only 30 seconds in and James got me with the car/dad puns. Instant like.

[@asimpleman2585]

This literally sold me on the N. Thanks for your insight.

[@GibbysGarage15]

How many of you guys are sleeping on your dashboard to need soft touch materials up there? My mk6 GTI had a softer dash than door armrest.. which I found odd.

[@brianchen3964]

Probably since they wanted the armrest to wear slower since you are always on contact with it

[@Osprey1994]

I have a MK6 GTI and I don't have this problem my arm rests are plenty soft. The dash is nowhere near soft enough to sleep on but it doesn't feel like the Toyota I had before.

[@MichaelLesesne]

It's for when you bang your head on it. 👌😉

[@jp_interest4333]

Gibby's Garage can I have ur FRS 😭 I miss mine so much lmao

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I guess in the last 10 years since the advent of independent motorjournalists, reviewers, and social media..... getting into a new car and promptly poking all the surfaces with one's finger became the measure of value? Touchy-feely generation? It's a machine to drive, put your hands on the controls. Contrast this with a 1960's vehicle with solid metal in most places, no airbags, drum brakes, non-collapsible steering column, and vinyl bench seats and lap-belts, single-speaker AM radio, you got nothing to complain about in your plastic-clad interior.

[@TheFlashinPulsar]

I recently tested all these cars and bought a wrx. The GTI and veloster feel faster because you feel the torque more from the fwd. The subbie has less torque feel, and it makes the car insane. You suddenly realize you are hauling ass with out being thrown back as hard. When the gti or veloster tires would spin the wrx just pulls more. GTI is the most planted on the road, the ride stability is unmatched and it still feels insane because of the torque steer. The GTI and Hyundai both have great warranties, subbie warranty is okay. wrx keeps its value the most out of all of them. They really are all their own unique drives. I already had a mk6 gti and while it looks more sensible wrx is more practical because of storage and room. Here is the real big difference. WRX Turbo kicks in way sooner than the GTI. They can both be spooled pretty quickly but the GTI turbo is made to kick in at 3k so you can keep revs lower for city driving. When it does kick in it just rips hard all the way to about 6k rpm. wrx turbo kicks in at 2.3 and hits a big peak at 2.8 dips a little after that, dips more at like 3.5k picks back up at 4k and then hits a slightly higher peak pulling hard to redline. This is similar to the FA20 in the BRZ too, just more HP and torque. Unlike the BRZ it can be taken out with a stage 1 access port tune. If you take a gti to redline it feels like it is going to break, the subbie feels like it wants less restriction. the veloster is pretty similar to the gti. The sudden onset of the turbo seems to be more gradual and maybe slightly sooner in the veloster. GTI manual gear box is very easy and comfortable to drive, but responsive. You should get the auto instead though it is faster and actually is a lot of fun. The WRX clutch is heavy, but smooth. The clutch point has been moving slightly on me as it breaks in and wants a little higher rpm to get going than the gti, probably because of the increased inertia of the drive train. The clutch can kick in hard if you dump it and still be fairly smooth while you do it. It goes when you dump the clutch with out jerking. It also feels like it is engaging more quickly(?) it is different and feels more sporty. When you dump the clutch in the gti it is harsh. When you don't dump the clutch the GTI clutching is almost so refined and smooth that it is bland. There is a thin line between quick response when letting out of the clutch and dumping to quickly causing the car to lurch. Even with launch control on my mk6 it as difficult to launch properly. The DSG auto can be more responsive and introduce less delay in continuing the speed. GTI is the clear winner on interior. The WRX is so inconsistent. The dash and door handles are great, all the rubber around the windows is great. The fake leather wheel is meh, the seats are meh, the carpeting is meh to low quality for the price. The center console is okay. The GTI just has a great interior. Veloster has the best onboard computer/infotainment centers. WRX has the 2nd best, the digital gauge above the infotainment center is great. GTI is great improvement in technology over the mk6, which had basically nothing for a modern car. It is still lack luster. Except the WRX lacks blind spot notification in the side mirrors and the blinkers on the side mirrors. WRX has the best mirrors and vision over all. GTI has massive and dangerous side mirror blind spots. Veloster has better side mirrors but a worse rear view picture. GTI + seamless rearview > WRX seamless rearview, but it doesn't overcome the gtis blind spots. The GTI seamless rearview is almost entirely seamless. It looks great and provides so much more vision over the base rearview. The reason I didn't get a gti was that the car is so incredibly refined that it feels bland. It feels so well planted on the road. The steering has feed back but not a lot of resistance. The clutch feels like it doesn't exist most of the time. The wrx is the opposite in a lot of ways. It feels wild every time you drive. The clutch has so much spring back you can cut your shin open if you dump it and get your shin in the way, but the responses it gives are so pronounced. The steering is resistive and provides substantially more road feel. You can feel the texture of the pavement and its imperfections through the wrx steering. And goddamn is it fast. In 6th gear, stock, it is as responsive as 4th in the gti mk6 stage 1.

[@TheFlashinPulsar]

@XdC the mk6 had terrible blind spots on the left and right. I put on curved mirrors for mine and it reduced it, but they were still bad. The wrx has an okay blind spot I think I'll completely remove the blind spot with curved mirrors. The A pillar blindspot on the wrx is actually worse than the gti though. Not sure about the veloster I only test drove it. Mk7.5 gti had less blind spot than the mk6. But mk6 w/ curved mirrors was better than the mk7.5 oem mirror. The mk7. 5 comes standard with blindspot monitoring though. Wrx has the wire in the door but you have to buy the mirror for it. Subispeed has a curved wrx mirror w/ blindspot monitoring.

[@brendanfogel4573]

The mk7’s turbo kicks in at 1500rpm...

[@Hboogie182]

WRX have rev hang! GTI and Veloster N is much better.

[@R3LF13]

Finally the Veloster compared to the cars that it will actually get crossed-shopped with. Great review. If I hadn't bought a new vehicle in 2017, I'd get a Veloster N tomorrow. Looks like so much fun.

[@DoubleDown310]

If you don't mind me asking, what did you get?

[@R3LF13]

@@DoubleDown310 I was all set to get a GTI, but went a different direction and bought a Jeep Wrangler. My goal is to someday keep the Jeep and add a fun daily. If I could do that now, it would be the N.

[@jamesengelsman9369]

Epic goal @@R3LF13!

[@R3LF13]

@Joseph McAuley the off road park is a blast, the doors-off experience is one-of-a-kind, it's fun to work on, my family fits in it, and it comes in manual....and, it's not like I wasn't also rolling the reliability dice with the VW. Do i also want a car that can do the twisty road thing? Very much, yes, but I don't regret getting the Jeep one bit.

[@dirkdesouza5975]

Golf GTi, its just a better "all rounder", daily, kids to school, ikea runs, groceries, fun track days, or drive from Toronto to Vancouver.

[@lucaslease4571]

GTI all the way. It's the complete package of fun, functionality and everyday drivability.

[@ResevoirGod]

Which the Leon Cupra does better whilst looking far better

[@ConfessorEpicness]

GTI is trash, I have one in the yard if you want it. 2015 with 63,000 highway miles (used as a commuter car).

[@andrewsugerman1126]

@@ConfessorEpicness What failed with the car?

[@ConfessorEpicness]

@@andrewsugerman1126 From what VW said it just magically swallowed a valve when I turned the key at work to start it.

[@rage9517]

@@ConfessorEpicness it’s 2015 mk6 u should get a mk7 😁 and see the big difference

[@michaelantonella4781]

Just bought the 2019 Rabbit in urano grey. Awesome car. Definitely better here in Canada than the U.S. version. Way better trim. GTI wins it for me. Great job guys.

[@revengefullobster4524]

I have a 2015 STI but I really like the look of the Veloster. I can live with a harsh ride (I've even stiffened mine), but I think I would miss the AWD (and my 475 whp) and do miss having the hatch. I'm also 6'5" and it looks like the Veloster might be a bit tight. You must really need to sit in the Rabbit to appreciate the quality of it, because it really didn't look any better than the other two. In fact, from a no nonsense perspective, I think I prefer the Hyundai. From the outside, the Veloster wins hands down.Definitely the best looking and most sporty of the three. They've really come a long way. Good vid guys!

[@drgnslyr221]

That's what I Daily drive. Waiting for the warranty to expire before getting it modded.

[@flat4engine482]

You guys deserve more subscribers

[@mr.2cents.846]

If I wouldn't havr subscribed, I would now.

[@xander_vi]

I own 2013 Veloster non turbo, so my life quest is to collect all 3 of them like pokemons: non turbo version, turbo version and N version. Then I'll start collecting VWs: normal Golf, Golf GTI and Golf R.

[@Killertomato84]

I'm still not quite sure why hyundai discontinued the veloster. I've not gotten the chance to drive the N version, but i have a 2016 VT and i absolutely love it. just an all around fun time even if it's not a huge power house.

[@BillHarvey08]

Damn!!!! I’m glad I found you guys this early on. I believe your gonna be huge. You guys are are smart and witty. I find it too easy to watch your entire videos. Say that 10x fast!!!! You guys are great!

[@jamesengelsman9369]

Thanks Bill, and welcome!

[@Silverdeamon92]

I agree the Golf is more refined and livable on the daily commute however if I had to choose I would go for the Veloster N especially sense i am not in a snow-belt region. Can I say this, the package the Veloster offers is what I feel {IMO} the Subayota should have been. Not asking for massive power just enough to make the BRZ/FRS/86 more enjoyable on the twisties and yet bankable power when needed. Guys keep up the good work.

[@andrewgregory151]

Drove 7k miles in 5 days up north no problems. Does decent even on dirt other than clearance

[@alexandergoldman]

I'd go with the Veloster N...for the exhaust and shift lights... definitely in that powder blue

[@frankieM_]

same but with a black main and red trim

[@patberge1806]

love the fact you doing this from ontario!

[@babydejnt]

Wow how am I just discovering this challenge. English guy is so likable with his little jokes and accent. The review is so honest and spot on too!

[@sebastiancordoba3782]

These dudes make very good reviews, I've been following them for a little while now. They are jokes and actually know their shit!

[@vr6gls]

I already made my choice. GTI for me! 👍

[@nickstrong8247]

I bought a New Rabbit GTi in Cornflower Blue. I love it!

[@junolena]

mod it to apr stage 2. I had mk6 apr stage 2. It was awesome.

[@yutub561]

​@ Saving up for stage 2 on mine. JB1 wasn't enough power for my liking and started to cause some misfires. Once I get the stage 2 ECU and TCU I think it will be the perfect little unsuspecting monster

Nick Kiedaisch I agree with you on that. If you have a GTI, it will not be complete unless you include the stage 2 ECU and TCU on it with DP and intake. Only then will you experience the full capacity of the car but what I haven’t been able to figure out quite yet is how to get rid of the turbo lag off the pedal. I have the Stage 3 package and it still sometimes lags while rolling but picks up nicely after a second or two.

[@jamesengelsman9369]

@@nickstrong8247 Epic! What a colour

[@lucasscott9219]

Put my 2018 wrx through its first winter in sudbury this year (north country) and I've gotta say traction control off in an inch of snow is the most fun I've had with my pants on this year

[@focofox37]

Keep up the good work... The two of you work together quite well, and your content is always entertaining

[@nubsandbolts920]

I love my 2020 Veloster turbo Ultimate. Its got soo much more then I expected, performance wise and gadgets, Amazing interior trim(red lines red stitching in seats), big driver door, wireless charger pad, big sunroof, 8 speaker sound system, etc.. The car bolts like a street bike even keeping up to big name muscle cars. Sound system is great, weight ratio almost 50/50. I never thought id own a Hyundai until I say the new 'style' and didn't recognize it from the ugly previous gen. Every thing in it makes sense. First car I paid in full and still have 0 regrets. ps i want to get the N and the 2020/21 Veloster N has a wonderful new 8 speed dual clutch transmission. Definitely worth checking out

[@MrJohnnygalan]

Honestly I would not flinch a moment and take the Subaru. If you want more power then get the STI. If that ain't enough then modify and you can get all you want. LOOKS, heritage, SOUND, COMMUNITY, aftermarket options, and AWD. Go to Subiefest and catch the fever! Subaru is a cult for a reason. Hell I have a 2.5i forester but I have a 6 spd MT and I could not be happier!

[@brendanyue2187]

the veloster n is still so slept on. Ive only seen like 2 on the street since release.

[@intox69]

I live in Canadistan, WRX was a no brainer. I agree about the rev hang, I'm going to tune it out as soon as I'm able. I will probably end up building this car once I have another daily. That being said the WRX is a great car you can't go wrong with one, very fun to drive and pulls pretty hard. On the highway, you can get some amazing gas mileage if you stay out of it. Also if you live in a place that gets a fair amount of snow, it's pretty funny watching everyone around you digging and pushing their cars while you just plow through effortlessly. I got to experience that today as we just got a good foot and a half of it lol...

[@dumitruc8789]

You guys are the best! Original, Quality, Lifestyle review! Love this channel!

[@jamesengelsman9369]

Thanks Dumitru!

[@W1Robur]

As someone who owns a 2018 WRX, some basic mods really liven it up. I have a Cobb accessport, a rear sway bar, a front strut bar, a short shifter, a weighted knob, and some basic cosmetic stuff. All of the issues of rev hang and the power dip, understeer, etc. get sorted away pretty easily. I'm not the fastest car on the road, but the car makes good power and pulls to redline, and handles like a champion.

[@RageAgainstGOD]

can't wait to watch the new Veloster N DCT review from you guys!

[@seansyw143]

You slapped James, while I slapped that subscribe button.

[@MiniAdler13]

MK7 GTI all day! I'll take the negligible performance hit for the comfort and convenience

[@MrSTROM26]

Imo not worth 30k. If u can get gti for 25 or 26k then hell yeah. Why pay 30k for gti if u can add 9k and get Golf R.

[@von6164]

MrSTROM26 30k is msrp no one pays that

[@steventhomason2381]

Just get a stage 1 tune and smash both of those and V8s all day!

[@infowazz]

@@MrSTROM26 2017 GTI for $20K and 30K miles. then spend $400 to add 40hp........then $40 for 8hp........new cars are a waste of money.

[@infowazz]

@@steventhomason2381 yessir. 2017 GTI for 20k and low miles. Stage 1 tune and you blow them all away all day. That is my plan in the spring. Not that i'm some racer punk kid lol. New cars are a waste of money. VWs are not the most reliable but i've heard 2017 is a good year and not too many issues compared to other years.

[@PiroFyre]

I actually chose the Veloster N for the vary conclusion you guys had. I live in a place where I can really only have one car but I love doing motorsports things like auto-x and track so my choice would have to count. I don't regret it one bit. I looked into the GTi and german reliability had me worried. Looked into the WRX and for being a 2019 car, it felt dated. The Veloster N obviously doesn't have a good interior but it makes up for it by having a great infotainment system, decent speakers and push start. And knowing the car was built up to handle stickier tire loads, it was a no brainer. Very happy with my choice.

[@danver1971]

I'm currently driving a '16 Veloster Rally. I had been debating the Type R, N and WRX. Type R is a bit pricey, so I had kind of put it to the side. After this review, because a live where there is no snow, I'm set on the N. As some other have said, I wish the i30N would come to North America. I'm excited to see what Hyundai does with the entire N line, in the US, over the next few years.

[@c013s14w]

What did you end up buying? I was looking at the same cars and i ended up going with the WRX a little over a year ago (went with the 22).

[@danver1971]

@c013s14w I did end up with a Veloster N. Drove it for three years and decided i wanted to get into something AWD. So, I traded the N for the same price I paid new, for a '22 WRX. Honestly, hated the WRX, so traded again for an Audi S3. Honestly, I'm loving it. I've modded and tuned it to a little over 400 at the crank. Super fun to drive.

[@c013s14w]

​@@danver1971 I like Audis but german cars are an expensive pain in the ass. Havnt heard many people complain about the VBs. Did you at least consider the GR corolla before the Audi?

[@danver1971]

@c013s14w I had been following the GR, but it had not dropped yet in the US when I made my trade. I didn't want to miss the crazy trade value on my N, so I didn't wait for it.

[@c013s14w]

@@danver1971 that makes sense. Ive been in the WRX now for about a year and a half and I couldnt be happier. Recently did a stage 1 tune and I have a new intake coming in soon for a little more power and cool turbo noises.

[@isaacvelez4074]

Just picked up my veloster n 2 days ago and I get sad when I’m not driving it, for every hour I drive it I fall inlove with it more, then turns just don’t stop putting a smile in my face

[@3811eric]

Veloster N is my choice!!

[@mr.2cents.846]

It'd be perfect if it would come with RWD and stickshift.

[@gregblack8550]

Not going to regret. My friend has a 3 year old gti and has been back to dealer 11 times.

[@Mushroomancer]

Fool Proof Choices: If you want to mod, get the WRX. If you want a stock fun car, get the N. If you prefer refinement, get the GTI.

[@xtiantab]

If you want pussy ride the public bus

[@farhana3164]

@@xtiantab yes, public ride means pussy ride

[@vclue846]

No if u want to mod u get the gti. Its the most moddable modern car

[@THEGOAT-hg8nu]

@@vclue846 hells yeah some FBO with an is38 turbo and you'll smoke most cars you come across

[@randomsubscriber52]

THE GOAT yeah but fwd kinda holds it back

[@Earnest_walkins]

Lots of potential! Hope you guys do well. Rare to see a decent car review channel with there being sooooo many.

[@jamesengelsman9369]

Thanks Will! And welcome

[@scottcavill4807]

The N. Hands down. I own one now and love it!

[@parminderk9331]

Previous evo X owner here and loving the veloster N! 30k out the door

[@GQV10]

Have both the GTI and WRX. While the GTI is the better all-round car, the WRX is much much fun to drive.

[@boss4330]

Maybe you are talking about a 2006 WRX or so. The new WRX drives like a turbocharged Corolla.

[@GQV10]

@@boss4330 It actually handles better than any previous WRX, that's been stated in almost all reviews.

[@stan1900]

My experience as well. I test-drove a GTI and a WRX and I went for the WRX, easily. Yes the GTI was nice, but there's just something about the WRX. The big downsides to me are the rev hang and the road noise. The first is going to be fixed by a tune, the latter I've just gotten used to. Oh and of course there was the bonus experience when we got a big dump of snow recently. While people were trying to dig their cars out to get out of their parking spots, I blasted out of there in five seconds, then drove by RWD cars spinning their wheels in barely any snow. Ground clearance is quite small but it didn't seem to matter.

[@GQV10]

@@stan1900 The road noise isn't so bad on highways, but can be improved with better (quieter) tyres.

[@ShaanNotShawn]

I own both as well 2017 Gti and wrx. The wrx is definitely the more fun car. However for more comfortable trips I choose the Gti especially when I anticipate traffic since I got the dsg for the Gti. Interior is amazing and still fast when you want it. I have the wrx at stage 2 and it is just super fun, I will say with my current exhaust setup it gets kinda annoying when I'm just trying to get up the mountain for snowboarding. But when I'm on it, it puts a smile on my face. Also when I try to do the same turns and acceleration with the Gti I am constantly reminded its fwd, just cuz I am spoiled by the wrx now .

[@mikewazowski7613]

The "N" stands for Namyang, Korea which is where Hyundai's engineering center is located. So yes, you were correct when you said it was named after the town is was made in. All the cars are pretty cool, but for me, it would be the Veloster all day. It simply looks better and seems to out perform the others. Oh, and it sounds pretty bad ass. Great video as always fellas.

[@mikewazowski7613]

Yes the car was tested there, and it may have a little bit to do with the "N" badge but it was specifically named "N" for where the car was designed. I'm not sure Koreans would rock the "N" badge to represent Germany over a Korean named city where the car was engineered.

[@jillthompson6110]

@@mikewazowski7613 No. It's actually named after both towns in Germany and South Korea.

[@mikewazowski7613]

Jill, we can agree to disagree

[@BoopSnoot]

It would depend on how long you're going to keep it though. The Veloster N has a low entry price and a fantastic warranty, but that doesn't transfer the full 10 years to the second owner. As you can see from the astronomic lease rates for the Veloster N, smart people betting their own money are guessing that it will lose over half of its value over 5 years, which puts it at one of the highest depreciating vehicles on the market. And since true cost of ownership is purchase price minus resale value divided by months, you end up with a REALLY expensive vehicle compared to the Subaru with its much better resale value or the VW with its so-so resale. But if you plan to actually keep the vehicle an entire decade, which almost nobody does, then the Veloster N is a no-brainer.

[@anonjohnnyG]

no pedigree

[@paulbme]

It really depends on what you’re looking for in a car. WRX is a great platform for modding vs the other two, with a big aftermarket scene. Not a big fan of VW, leased a 2012 and had one electric issue after another. Got to a point where even VW didn’t know the solve. Never tried the N but always found the Veloster interesting. While the....plainest of them all, the WRX is a good all around car with plenty of modding potential and a engine begging for some DIY love. AWD is a big plus not only with snow but also with how far you can push the power, with FWD after a bit you will start hitting wheel spin and eating tires . Just my 5 cents, it’s very cheap and easy to bring WRX power levels to that of the STI.

[@pauld6860]

100% agree with you

[@raimondibro]

WRX will do anything you want it too, reliably with the new engine! Ive seen lifted wrxs and '14 xts on the beach and i auto x my own. Modded as hell and never had a problem. Stock motor flex fuel and i give stock m3's a run bc of weight. Wouldnt track it though, just get an sti

[@longgrayline8055]

As an owner of a 2014 Veloster Turbo, I had grown tired of paying for constant problems and gas in my 2012 Mustang Boss 302. The Veloster has literally needed oil changes and tires since purchase. I changed the transmission fluid and put brake pads on as well. Nothing else. Hyundai cars don’t break if taken care of. Can’t say that about my old ‘05 STI, Mustang, or Audi A3. I like a reliable vehicle.

[@LPDarkSoulsHD]

Watching James's face light up when he stepped on the gas in the N told us everything we needed to know. I've driven every generation of WRX and I currently own a blobeye. They're good cars, but they're not exactly thrilling. The Veloster is an incredibly thrilling car in comparison. The power band is dramatic, the way it shreds corners will shock you, and the noises it makes. Ugh, the noises. Like this little snarling, grunting goblin that's ready to fight 6' tall barbarians 3 at a time. It's like the car you need to buy if you want an M2 comp but can't afford an M2 comp.

[@jakubkuzmicki8572]

*drives on a straight road* STEERING IS REALLY GOOD

[@th3m3du54]

Jakub Kuzmicki They mix B-roll shots from outside with the interior shots. The voice is only according to what you see during the interior shots.

[@scat3926]

@@vothka205 fwd burn outs are honestly cool better than AWD burn out oh wait....

[@jakubkuzmicki8572]

@@scat3926 Just go in reverse (FWD) :)

[@JamesRouault]

Veloster N any day. It is my dream car to have in my 20s

[@johnnydwyer4261]

My friend has the N in performance blue, me personally would of went with the white or black N. Anyways you don't have a clue what they are trying to tell you unless you drive one. My expectations were like ok the car will be a little quick and handles nicely. Oh was I delightfully surprised , the N is FAST and eats up corners. Wow what a fun confident car. Around where I live the roads are mostly nice and wide open, so the suspension didn't bother me driving. Yet as a passenger and closer to the city, yep it's not a place I would like to spend a long time in. Being the driver I'm ok with because how fun the car is, but definitely don't enjoy being the passenger.

[@markperry762]

Veloster N. All day. And for $29,995.

[@kanyewestbank9677]

Veloster turbo 2.0 25, 450 201 hp fwd weighs about 1,000 pounds less Subaru wrx 2.0 27,500 268 hp awd In conclusion the wrx is a better bang for your buck

[@TheRabbitHasLanded]

jeff jefferson he said N. N is the only option you should even get.

[@kanyewestbank9677]

@@TheRabbitHasLanded its clearly the best option out of that lineup

[@infowazz]

used 2017 GTI for $19,836 with low miles, plus $400 for 40hp. bye Felicia.

[@infowazz]

@@kanyewestbank9677 $400 to add 40hp to a GTI..........one of the easiest cars to mod.

[@033Fritz]

The GTI does great here in Michigan during the winter. APR Stage 1 tune for less than $700 and those other cars couldn’t touch it.

[@johnwelk6675]

Cause the subaru drivers knew they'd dominate ya in the snow so they don't even bother putting down

[@aLn12301]

10:17 the back seats of the WRX can fold down

[@stephenhendricks103]

That helps but the versatility of a sedan still doesn't match that of a hatchback.

[@aLn12301]

​@@stephenhendricks103 Yes, of course

[@jamesengelsman9369]

They can yeah @@aLn12301 Thomas is a silly billy

[@Snadzies]

@@stephenhendricks103 Having had sedans and hatchback for many years I think there is maybe once or twice a year where I needed to carry something my hatchbacks could that my sedans couldn't. More often than not if there was something my sedan couldn't carry my hatchback couldn't carry either and I had to use an SUV/truck.

[@stephenhendricks103]

@@Snadzies Different strokes for different folks. I use my GTI for cargo more often than you do but you make a reasonable point as long as the back seat of a sedan folds flat. More important for me, though, is that I frequently transport a one or two large, dirty dogs behind the front row of seats. And almost as frequently I have a rear seat passenger and a dog. And neither my daughter nor my dog wants to be locked in the trunk. (Though I'm sometimes tempted.) For those duties, a hatchback is far more versatile than a sedan. It all comes down to personal priorities.

[@DodgeandGMkiIIingFurdDaiIy]

The mk7 GTI is the best 4 cylinder ever made in my opinion in terms of style, comfort, options and performance. Let’s face it, you can get any of these cars with 10,000 miles super cheap, I did. Just picked up a 2017 MK7 GTI Autobahn 5 months ago. Absolutely amazing. Put an Apr stage 2 on it, you go from 210HP to in the range of 320hp with just a simple tune and exhaust. The DSG gearbox in this car is so superb that it puts down the power so well - to the point that a stage 2 GTI WILL pull on most v8’s. You then put a golf R turbo on it ~ $1200 turbo and you will leave nearly every car in the dust. I picked my GTI up for only $21,000 out the door. It has everything you can imagine. Insurance is cheap, gas mileage is amazing, and if you didn’t already understand, yeah it’s a quick car. One person I absolutely applaud for accomplishing putting the GTI’s potential out to market is Tyler Aul - owner of a 10 second GTI. The Hyundai is a great option out there for true Hyundai fanatics, but let’s face it, it looks way too similar to a Ford Focus. The interior of the Veloster is a total copy of the GTI besides the touch screen. The dash looks the same, the gauge cluster, the different suspension, steering, and throttle response.... it’s a focus mixed with a GTI. And what’s up with only 3 doors?!?! The wrx to me is just bland, but maybe because I like hatchbacks. Again, this car is the best in its class. Period.

[@eleonik76]

even if you make that VW to go around the Earth in 5 secs,its still a damn cheap and ugly,bland VW. Everyone hates that brand except retards who know nothing about cars.

[@andrewwalker6589]

Pray for that timing chain tensioner 🙏

[@basslover352]

@@eleonik76 I know plenty of car enthusiasts who have had VW and know a lot about cars. a comment as ignorant as that is not someone who is a car enthusiast imo. A true car enthusiast appreciates what each car/manufacture offers.

[@allthenamesaretaken2]

because everyone wants a DSG waiting to grenade Ofcourse the interior is gonna look like VW. The damn designer from AUDI is designing it.

[@DodgeandGMkiIIingFurdDaiIy]

S.T T. That’s your opinion and it’s simply false 😂

[@JayanandSupali]

you guys are the perfect balance of Fun and Serious consumer advice. We know when you people are seriously giving a verdict and fooling around. Absolutely loving your content. And i just found about your channel. So apart from smashing the Subscribe button and ringing that bell hard, I am gonna binge watch as much as i can. PS - I absolutely love the N cars from Hyundai.

[@wiii432]

Dream car.. if only there was an All wheel drive Veloster !

[@K03sport]

I know this is 'old', but it helped give me perspective when looking for a replacement for my 04 GTI. It gave me things to look for/at during test drives. I originally was (dead) set on a BRZ on driving feel/purpose/intent alone (like a 4-wheel motorcycle), but real world life/practicality won in the end and I chose the [US spec] WRX-base as my new daily to replace the 15yo GTI. If you're wondering why I didn't choose a new GTI, well, as mentioned in this video, it is 'softer' than what I was looking for. Plus after 15 years with 1 GTI, I thought it was time for a change. The Veloster-N is closer to the brz in terms of raw feeling, and it brought me to giggles during the test drive, but when I wrapped my head around the car as a whole, I couldn't see myself in one. So, the WRX wins, but not by much. I'll make due w/the rev hang for now, but I see a tuner/accessport in my near future. What petition do I/we need to sign to bring the levorg to North America (with a proper mamual)?

[@ThrottleHouse]

Nice congrats on the purchase!!

[@K03sport]

@@ThrottleHouse thanks (a year later). If I could do it again, BRZ limited/tS. Next would be a VW Alltrack 6m. 3rd would be a Genesis G70 6m.

[@thestoebz]

After driving all 3, the GTI is by far my favorite. And in sport mode, it’s a sleeper. It’s extremely quick

[@Gizmosis_]

Throw a stage one engine tune at it and it will be the fastest of the 3.

[@thestoebz]

@@Gizmosis_ since then, I have a stage 2 now lol

[@Gizmosis_]

@@thestoebz haha, working my way there on my 2019 gti rabbit now. Currently stage one, going to get an intercooler too then a dp before I full send stage 2.

[@thestoebz]

@@Gizmosis_ I just love the GTIs my man. Great cars sounds like you have a badass setup

[@davesearle2766]

GTI without a doubt, being older the Veloster is a bit too "boy racer" for me, I have a 2016 GTI manual, 2019 GLI 35 Edition, manual and a 1993 325is with modified suspension. It's the most fun to drive but the Volkswagens are easy to live with, looking forward to the Mk 8.

[@Dairdevyld]

Same. 2016 DSG and I feel it's more liveable. I don't think I can do boy racer anymore.

[@davesearle2766]

@@Dairdevyld 68 year old in a Veloster, no matter how good just doesn't compute...

[@splatbubble]

@@davesearle2766 PLus the GTI actually gets a spare!

[@davesearle2766]

@@splatbubble Do like spares and the lack of the cheap round dash vents that are so popular today, no matter how pissed I get at our VW's or the dealer's service I can't justify changing as the "fun" quotient just seems to be missing from so many brands no matter how they may accelerate. Nice to be able to "fly under the wire"

[@splatbubble]

@@davesearle2766 Totally with you there, sir. Hopefully our opinions stay in the down low so our cars stay cheap! ;)

[@karrackhalcyon8826]

Love my 16 wrx, admittedly stock it has a few issues that you really want to mod out: 1 is the shifter slop, fixed for about $100 dollars with a short throw shifter plate, and perrin brass bushing. 2 is rev hang its a part of the engine tune which i see as the main issue from the factory, having looked at the way the CAT constricts and bends for no reason, it become really obvious that subaru undertuned the wrx to keep it out of the STI power range. The rev hang and the power dip at 4k rpm both disappear with just the cobb AP OTS tune for stock vehicle. And an aftermarket jpipe with carb compliant CAT and tune will drop you off around 270-280whp

[@cliff8669]

I had a new 2016 GTI, Midnight Blue with Clark Plaid interior. Great fun car. But, since I needed to go back to being more sensible, I traded in for a 2019 Jetta SEL Premium. I had no complaints about the GTI. As for the Jetta … No complaints either. Less power to be sure but better ride and the gas mileage is very good. Around town I can get over 400 miles from a tank. Open road, I got 550 miles before tanking up. I made the dealer go out of state to get the Jetta I wanted. SAGE GREEN METALLIC with two tone interior. Still, I do miss my GTI. And my youth … sometimes.

[@drewcook12]

I'd take the Veloster N and I currently own a GTI

[@dchiznit209]

Drewcifer Mods bro....I totally misread that as GTR

[@LoXHumaN]

Smh

[@infowazz]

$400 for 40hp........do it

[@nightmare55010]

I currently own a GTI. I think i'd take the N as well.

[@michaelliu4773]

finally you have a chance to drive the N. This thing is a game changer in oz. I am gonna choose i30N as I already own a gti clubsport. BTW very very honest review.

[@JTM610]

Those intros are one of a kind

[@robb3724]

Check out the Dodge demon video by Savagegeese. Not as funny but very entertaining. This video was great, definitely watching more.

[@DoctorChange106]

great review of 3 serious machines - agree with you: 1 car Get Veloster N / otherwise GTI.

[@ColSandersLives]

Veloster N because I have the first version of the car and the gimmick of the third door isn't a gimmick when you have two dogs and grocery shop. My dogs give the Veloster two tails up... and with 85K hassle-free miles on my current car, this is a no brainer upgrade. Great review gents.

[@joefraser990]

I own a Veloster N and it’s very enjoyable as a daily driver. It’s a blast on country roads too!

[@sightaggression86]

I'd love to see a video like this with each of these cars tuned. The ability to tune each of these is drastically different.

[@killerkhalsa27]

True, the gti being the most potent to mods with that mqb platform.

[@GhislainLeduc]

GTI for me, The interior is what's really important, that's what you see everyday, exterior is for others to see :) And honestly. I prefer no pop, on the exhaust it gets you headache after a while

[@ConfessorEpicness]

What good is the interior on a brick? The GTI's are so unreliable that VW wont warranty them past 60,000 miles.

[@HaSh6064]

Good review, you are the only one who mentioned about Subaru's setting position, they are too high, it dose not feel sporty at all. I owned four Subarus and they all seat too high. There is too much head room.

[@Michel-Graillier-fanclub]

I'm 6'4 head room in the Subaru is great, not too much. Extra height is good for a helmet or sunroof loss. The seat sits too high though.

[@guillermosanchez2783]

I switch from a 2009 GTI to a 2015 WRX and from it to a 2018 WRX STI. Out of this three, I'll pick the Veloster N. I was pleased to switch from the GTI to the WRX, but once I went to a Boxerfest and just waiting to enter I felt that I was driving a Camry, I knew that Subaru gave up too much in the transition to the 2015 generation. The STI is the most rewarding car I've driven to this day, at least, personally owned, I see myself for years looking to buy rumbling STIs. If there weren't any, Veloster N with the performance package would be my next choice when fun to drive would be the goal of driving. When dring the STIs you feel that some 911s that you cross with manual transmissions might be more rewarding and desirable but in these segments... The STI that you could buy for the price that you would pay for any of these should be your goal when fun driving, rewarding sensations were important. For numbers on a track get a Type R, for a city car, thinking that the ride has to be soft and so on, the best choice is the Prius if you want more feeling while driving a Honda Fit Sport manual transmission. If you are going to buy a car that costs what today costs the GTI, get a fun car, That's why just considering this three the Veloster N. If in my garage I have a Speedster, a Stelvio ( I wouldn't spend more on an SUV), even if I can afford a Speedster, an STI and a Miata and I don't have a Prius, then I'll get the VW, like you guys said. To me, Subaru pressed the wrong button when they decided to wash the character of the car with the new engine in 2015. The interior improved though. Final thing. To anybody considering buying the WRX, drive the STI as well before closing the deal. By the base model, whatever you can. In terms of the feelings that the car returns, there is a world of difference.

[@lazaruslaser6560]

A GTI is like Mario on Mario Kart. He's pretty good at everything, and he's iconic. But he'll probably get gapped by Yoshi.

[@matthewallen2000]

The mk7 GTI engine has been overly subdued, but with a $700 stage 1 flash all the electronic limiting is gone and you in affect get a FWD Golf R for $15k less. With all the superior design the VW comes with, a simple software mod makes it no contest--the mk7 blows any other car at the price-point right out of the water.

[@doncornetto]

There surely have to be some mechanical changes to the R that justify the increase in HP, if you do that to a GTI you might just fuck something up big time.

[@mauriceow6812]

For the first time im glad its a 20+ minute video. Love the production style you guys have and the touch of humour. Subbed!

[@Pierceprepper327]

WRX 100% tune out the rev hang and have fun. You can't beat Subaru on a loose surface.

[@infowazz]

if i had long winters and bad weather its WRX all day long. i had a neighbor that went offroading in his little 80s Subaru whenever we got snow. the car was like a tank! GTIs are cheap to mod so that is my pick and getting a 2017 in the spring with low miles.

[@user-hx8fn2he9q]

Drove numerous cars before buying a Veloster N with the performance pack. Every WRX and STI I drove new and used just felt low quality, like a rattle box! Get snow tires for winter and the Veloster N is your machine! I love it!

[@bobow4075]

They out of money unfortunately :(

[@P240SR]

i have a 2017 WRX and my lease is up on october. i plan to get the Veloster N next. im a 90's jdm guy but like to have a fun daily as well.Great video