2019 VW Golf R vs Civic Type R vs Veloster N - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES

[@lgbnz]

Hyundai / Genesis making some of the largest strides in the industry in the last decade.

[@thetreblerebel]

Genesis...not so much anymore

[@natebarry5553]

@@thetreblerebel ??

[@thetreblerebel]

@@natebarry5553 big luxury boats, on par with what Cadillac did or does.. Genesis use to be a badass sports luxury model. Now...up market

[@blackfire_x2964]

@@thetreblerebel wha? They’re still doing great

[@justinmartin4841]

Loool. Genesis are shitboxes

[@200223101]

Velostar N's ​​debut is impressive to compete with Civic and Golf.

[@vernongamble1115]

Will most likely be more reliable than a Volkswagen too.

[@Ethan007Hacks]

Vernon Gamble VW tech here haven’t seen any issues out of the Rs thus far Except for the guy who money shifted and over revved it and blew the engine buy that’s his own fault I know some Hyundai techs and they replace engines all day long

[@devn3813]

R S that isn’t the case anymore.

[@johnnymurphy2015]

Vernon Gamble NEVER😂😂😂 Hyundai is notorious for being shit lol

[@timefortimbo]

@R S just bought a veloster r-spec a few months ago, the warranty that comes with any hyundai is insane.

[@ZappsMusic]

I still can’t believe the newcomer from Hyundai is already good enough to be compared to some of the best.

[@MikeDawson1]

I still can't believe it and I own one. I can't believe I bought a Hyundai.

[@popsandbangs8858]

Mike Dawson i believe i love Hyundai.

[@canadabear72]

@@MikeDawson1 Congrats Mike! Tell me, is it really harsh on the road when you put it in comfort setting or is it livable?

[@gwcrispi]

@@canadabear72 I have the R-spec and I've driven the N. It is harsh. If it is your only car, you'd have to just grin and bear it. If it is your weekend car or track car, it is fine.

[@canadabear72]

@@gwcrispi That R Spec is fantastic little car. So much car and so much fun for the buck!

[@Scorpio1075]

I actually went to dealers and drove all three cars, and I bought a Veloster N w/ Performance Package. Hyundai said their goal was "smiles per miles", they totally delivered! Not only is it fun to drive but the tech is really impressive for the money. I personally love the button on the door handles that allows you simply push the button to unlock the doors or lock the doors, no need to ever touch the key fob... just leave it in your pocket or bag.

[@zachcambon8213]

PLAY_HRD my 2013 Audi has that

[@gillesthibault429]

Note that on the Civic, when you touch the back of the handle, the doors unlock. If you press the black button on the same handle, they relock or, optionally, the car can lock itself while you walk away,

[@shanemather4165]

Most new cars do this lol

[@person2186]

type r has 3 of those. 2 on front doors, on on the boot lid open mechanism

[@person2186]

also it can lock itself when you walk away. also it can unlock only drivers door when you go closer or you can change it and open all or if inly drivers door open option is ticked, and you go around to the passenger's door, or some rear door. all 4 doors will unlock. and if you go away, all of them will lock agsin how nice is that

[@sufyaanlakhani7452]

These guys are great. Very underrated channel.

[@mcswks2444]

Agree, between you and savagegeese, that's all the car channels I need 😁

[@firelordazula386]

all channel is struggle in the beginning,because these guys are new here, people are watching carwow that have the same format

[@alexhopestranger7386]

Thomas is cool but James seems fake

[@michaeldillon9080]

Big fan knowledgeable and entertaining

[@sachemrock]

Alex neverborn , what do you mean by that Alex? They are both such nice guys in my opinion, your comment hurts those that appreciate the contributions each one makes to the effort. Separately they are great, together they are exceptional!

[@NvrchFotia]

The veloster’s suspension isn’t bad on the road. N mode is overkill though, even for most tracks.

[@TheRabbitHasLanded]

Really is, I use mine in custom with the suspension on normal.

[@ralalal]

멀좀아네

[@Bens1LE]

Well it's a track car, so.

[@kungfucasey]

Really enjoyed this. Super content, guys! I bought a Veloster N last weekend because it is a great compromise between the Daily vs Track focused competition, AND because it's the bargain of the century. Have you heard that Hyundai has released notice to honor warranty claims even if the N is being tracked or auto-crossed? Bonus!

[@natelan69420]

I have a Golf R, but I would happily own a Veloster N. Looks like a great car at a great price. I wouldn't touch that Honda for any price, however. Congrats on your cool car!

[@shortroundChris]

About that...did u have to upgrade to the next level of warranty for that?

[@sebastiankowdrysh9518]

@@shortroundChris no that’s factory warranty no upgrade

[@antoinewallace8698]

I bought one 2 days ago and I’m in love with it

[@aluisious]

"Cars rust." Live in California, do not understand.

[@gregorysmith3913]

Pretty much lol

[@Labtec86]

You lucky person

[@HH-gm9nz]

@@Labtec86 liberal alert

[@unknownninja4430]

@@HH-gm9nz cope alert

[@HH-gm9nz]

@@unknownninja4430 incoherent sentence alert

[@dhtm3577]

This is why my son just got his Veloster N for his 21st BIRTHDAY. I never heard the end of complaints about his Sonata. Now he’s in hot hatch heaven! That N screams and pops. Hugs corners so tightly. In my test drive I hit 100 on the freeway in almost no time!! Love the Type R, but not into paying the price.

[@vernongamble1115]

No doubt, Hyundai has been on a roll for a decade now, there is no more denying their brand in every car class.

[@damonreynolds6775]

And trucks, and busses etc. All in every power generation mode from EV to ICE. World brand, modern car tech warts and all.

[@marcusalejandro8044]

And pretty soon in small pick up class

[@ronnie_5150]

For sure! The Veloster really surprised me in this.

[@codguy565]

It’s also the only one u would die in if it flipped lmao

[@rdehaan1491]

after 10 - 15 years the Hyundai wont have any significant resale value whatsoever , but the golf and civic will still be pretty pricey …..

[@NaijaBull]

You guys are one of the best automotive channel on KZbin, absolutely amazing. Please do an Si vs GTI, would be interesting.

[@maggio1900]

Type-R... really a perfect fighter jet.

[@SrchangwaytogoC]

11:30 What a genuine pleasure to watch the three shots together of the three MANUAL cars driven hard. Long live manuals!

[@jozosaravanja1626]

Agree. soooo much more fun to drive and way more engaging.

[@donald626]

@@jozosaravanja1626 u forgot to say that it is engaging

[@mathieurichard9700]

Manual car are done, sorry

[@mikerotchburns1622]

long live cvts!

[@kingkongbingbong9889]

@@jozosaravanja1626 it's also very engaging

[@Lonyr]

After owning a Veloster Turbo for a couple months, I was definitely rooting for the Veloster N in this video. Really surprised how closely it performed to the Type R! I just love how fun and unique Velosters are.

[@kendelion]

I dont have any of these but I love to see Veloster beating the VW!

[@MEDaSEQ]

The point is it wasn't close 3 secs in a track of only 1 minute is an eternity, if it was the nurbugring your're looking at about a 20 sec diff

[@yousefdeeb01]

I didn't expect that from the Veloster, Hyundai group is for real stepping up their game

[@Driko99]

Yousef Deeb they have the former lead guy from BMW M division

[@hondatrix]

Thomas launched like an ass..and can't shift..facts!

[@mikek1635]

hondatrix Boo hoo, little girl.

[@justinmartin4841]

Until it falls apart in a few years and the resale is trash.

[@kristians2704]

@@justinmartin4841 it's not the 1990s anymore

[@chriswerkman3787]

Love my Veloster N more every time I drive it.

[@carti4644]

I want one but also want golf r dream car but velostar love them botj

[@oscarestrada3926]

Great car! I love my Golf R. Hot hatches FTW!

[@TylerWolstie]

@@oscarestrada3926 all the hot hatches are great! Just picked up a 22 veloster n

[@oscarestrada3926]

@@TylerWolstie Congrats on the new car! There is a baby blue veloster n with the red trim near where I live. It's very nice, honestly the veloster is one of the better looking modern hot hatches. Do you plan on leaving it stock or are you going to join the voided powertrain warranty gang?

[@thillyard1]

Guys this was just incredible. Your filming and editing is such high quality and your personalities really just make these entertaining. You guys really put your heart and soul into these, keep it up! One millions subscribers!

[@SpaceMissile]

9:05 - just gotta comment on the absolutely stunning background scenery of this track; those windmills really add to the aesthetic

[@senorgato70]

Thomas: the Type-R is a “masterpiece of a driver’s car” and “perfectly dialed in” and “faster and better in everything” Picks Veloster Ok.

[@ThrottleHouse]

senorgato70 only cause the Veloster is a bit less serious. Makes a better noise. Is more fun

[@senorgato70]

Well that’s certainly an interesting way to make a choice. Can you imagine a Formula 1 racer saying “I want the less serious car to drive”. Lol

[@Bolero6879]

@@senorgato70 you aren't buying these cars to professionally race

[@senorgato70]

Ethan Ross no shit. You really felt it necessary to say that? You must spend lots of Friday nights at home

[@gillesthibault429]

It's also 25% cheaper... 10K Canadian less. To many, it's a fairly good tradeoff!

[@payasofeo69]

So proud of my car! Got this exact Golf R, 2018, manual , dark grey. I love it. Don’t think it’s the best at anything but it the best at doing everything great.

[@elchucapablas]

payasofeo69 it won the drag race.

[@vedadrokkor]

I agree, it's not the best.

[@wildchilde69]

Good on ya for getting a manual and not dsg like 99% of other Golf owners lol. I bet it's a blast to drive!

[@antoniocalimero1173]

A Golf stays a Golf.. it is no Subaru or a real fun car. A true car enthusiast never buys a modern Golf.

[@adodoes8770]

@@antoniocalimero1173 this golf r whoopes most of 2010s sportscars' asses What are you on about?

[@Sie84yv]

Thanks guys! Buying the Veloster tomorrow!

[@PocketsMcCloud]

I bought a Veloster N a month ago. Tried the civic type R, drove a GTI rabbit but no Golf R. Honestly, on the road the veloster was far and away the most engaging to drive. Civic type R was great but the dealer wanted 38k for the civic and 28k for the N. The civic just wasn’t worth the extra 10k to me. For 33k it would have been a serious contender though cause I loved the seats and driving position. N is better than GTI, no contest.

[@aamirkhawaja9206]

Congratulations man! I was hoping to get the N before the type R too! Honestly the amount of performance it has and it costs wayy less is amazing. Unfortunately I recently found out I can't fit in one cuz I'm like 6'7 at least and it's way too uncomfortable for me :(

[@PocketsMcCloud]

Aamir Khawaja I’m about 6’3 and it’s a bit snug but I have a long torso and shorter legs. 6’7 is bit tall though, look at challengers if you want a sports car you can fit in. Crazy amounts of space for tall guys

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

Aamir Khawaja Not as much fun, but an RWD Stinger GT rings in at 36K and should fit you just fine.

[@carlosm.garciarivera7138]

Excelent choice 👍

[@senorgato70]

Slowly becoming my favorite car channel

[@DaMeisterToo]

Or quickly

[@senorgato70]

Still have my reservations :-)

[@Flip_Angle]

I look forward to all up the work you guys do. and I generally trust you guys more than most of the other journalists / car reviewers. This was excellent. It's pretty much what I expected actually. I didn't think the manual golfer would launch that well though.

[@StandingUpForBetter]

Well done! You guys definitely stepped up your game. Glad I subscribed. The Civic Type R is a masterwork but for my money and the lovely sound of that exhaust, that Veloster N will be our next car. Keep up the great work!

[@pointsur67]

Look, some of you have laughed at Hyundai for a long time. Meanwhile, as an "old head", I have been doing my research. Since the beginning of this century, Hyundai has been slowly and quietly working it's way into the lineup with top-name car companies. They have their own foundry, and they also spent almost 200 million on metallurgy. I first bought a brand new top-of-the-line Sonata back in 2006. It had the 3.3 liter V6 that was pushing 237hp. It even had a sport-shift feature, but it would only make the shifts near redline. It could and would beat a base 525 BMW that had 227 hp. The ex traded it in with almost 140,000 miles, and it still ran like brand new. I currently have a Accent GLS as my daily driver. That one is about to turn 200,00 miles. It doesn't burn oil and it runs like a top. Due to the mileage, it was time to renew suspension, timing belt, and ignition parts. Now it's read for another 100,000 miles. I am currently at adding another high-performance compact to the garage, and all three of these cars are on the list. The bang for the buck is the N. Plus, if I want to void my warranty, I can do a few minor upgrades with the money saved, and beat BOTH the other cars. Don't sleep on Hyundai.

[@cyberneticxylem9614]

The Hyundai is cheaper and has a manual handbrake. That alone makes me interested. But the type r is supposedly more comfortable. That electronic brake makes me skittish even though I drive a regular civic right now.

[@Speedether]

Maybe Hyundai's sports cars are good but every single person I know who got a Hyundai as there first cars because they are dirt cheap all suffered greatly, the accent after only 90 000 had issue going up a normal uphill road barely making it ar 70km/h. Back suspensions just broke on all 3 of them one was my sister's, an other my cousins and last one was one my friends accent. There cheap, bad reputation is deserved just as much as any other car company because all of them have there faults.

[@pointsur67]

@@Speedether Probably because they do not maintain them. I'm on my third Hyundai and never had any major problems. Letting things slide can do that.

[@Speedether]

@@pointsur67 you can think that but looking online and peoples opinions it's very clear that you are the exception.

[@pointsur67]

@@Speedether not in my circles. Everyone I know has few problems with theirs.

[@samchatham6487]

The Veloster is badass. That's where my money would go.

[@SSDracerSD]

Can't believe I'm saying this but with my dollars, I would take the Veloster N. Love the looks, sounds and price. Still a 10 year warranty?

[@bryansavage5472]

10 year warranty Yeah that's nice, ur going to need it bud. 😂🤣

[@wolvesdengaming4844]

B-RAd Santana why would he need it they are one of the most reliable brands on the market now.. lol

[@fromisheon4867]

I believe that 10yr 100k mile warranty is only on the power train.

[@GROMEXCR22]

Its 5, 60 on the electronic. The trype n has very little time that it came out so we dont know how reliable they are. I work for hyundai and im not a volaster fan at all. The looks are ugly, it is quick but would not buy one.

[@justinmartin4841]

@@wolvesdengaming4844 LOL right........ more like one of the worst cars money can buy. Owning one myself and worked for them. Hahaha ok

[@thillyard1]

I owned an MK7 Golf R, and a Focus RS. The Golf was more practical, comfortable, and reliable. But even with mods it was just boring. It's a very clinical car that is good, but doesn't seem to have a soul. The Focus RS was so much more fun but very unreliable and it will likely be my first and last Ford. Right now I have a modified (tuned, exhaust, coilovers) ND Miata Club that may just be the best car I have ever owned. But as a complimentary car I'm really thinking the Veloster N would be a perfect garage mate for the Miata... hmmm..

[@natelan69420]

I have a 2017 Golf R and I completely agree with you that it's clinical, to use your words. But I happen to love that about it...? But I would happily save close to $10k and own that Veloster. The Honda is just too damn ugly to be seen in.

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

Former Focus RS owner as well x 2. Blew the head gasket, replaced the second with a Stinger GT. Also have a Miata RF Club, which has become my all time favorite car. So tossable.

[@becheriksen]

German cars Will not last as long as a Type R

[@super_street_racer5094]

Check out for a final edition evo x you will save money and power is unlimited

[@thatpersiandude7386]

thillyard1 i feel you I drive a 2008 fn2 type r and my cousin has a stage 2 mk6 gti, Even tho his car is a bit faster in straight line the level engagement and smiles you get is nowhere near the honda

[@12345678939218]

Hyundai surprise me! Well done

[@williamwolverton7965]

It's a good car

[@nickoautickfordxr6skidpig408]

Finally.. old velosters are shit !!!

[@fishstickparty]

@@nickoautickfordxr6skidpig408 the naturally aspirated manual 1.6s are shit for power but can go literally 400k without anything but consumables.

[@nickoautickfordxr6skidpig408]

@@fishstickparty thats the complete opposite of the truth actually !! The veloster is known for engine falure.. do some research

[@fishstickparty]

@@nickoautickfordxr6skidpig408 not the NA 1.6 please do your own

[@atheist4life229]

The Golf R is the most comfortable and easiest to live with... but the Veloster N and Type R show that FWD is not a handicap when it comes to performance. The smile I get when I push my CTR through a tight corner cannot be overstated.

[@jeremybrown3748]

Have you ever been on a road trip with a type r, it takes bumps like you are in luxury car in comfort mode. We drove it from Texas to Arkansas, and made 35 miles a gallon going 75 and 80 most of the way there, and the seats are so comfortable, but a little hard to get out of lol

[@drepop803]

It's so much fun. I want to daily mine so bad but I'm still on stock wheel and tires. Plus i work outside and I'm dirty when I'm done. Rather let my focus 3 door hatch 5 speed take the task. Its so boring though lol. CTR is too much fun

[@GSX455s]

Fwd still is if you want much any more power than they come with, and test them out in say, rain or really cold when the sticky tires are out of there element. The golf still costs way too much though, even if it is the most "refined".

[@MrMduchesne23]

Golf R suffers from a lack of an LSD. those 2 other cars have them. Even the GTI has one. One reason why I went with a Canadian Performance edition Mk7 GTI with a tune. The R's AWD advantage disappears when exiting a corner when compared to a GTI with similar power and an LSD. If you're brave enough to void your warranty and install a wave track LSD on the Golf R it will hang with the Type R and Hyundai with ease.

[@ryantoews3886]

@@drepop803 maybe bring a change of clothes to work? lol I would find a way to be able to ride the CTR as much as possible

[@boostjunkie2320]

The Veloster actually has closer to 290hp. The Hyundai engineers designed that GDI engine to be able to take advantage of running 93 octane.

[@james6yearsago599]

the type r has a gain on 93 as well with 320 hp

[@boostjunkie2320]

@@james6yearsago599 I love the type r but I have an optima with the same engine as the N

[@TacticalToucann]

Love the channel and your insight! Purchased a Veloster N recently and it was a fantastic decision. Thanks for the help making that choice 🙏🏻

[@xxsekoxx]

How is it a year later? My wife has the 2.0 Premium but wants something faster.

[@fabioromero3687]

Golf r is simply the smart decision for Canadians. AWD, a stage 1 is pushing focus RS numbers plus you get the to decide if you want the dsg/manual.

[@ashcosmo3854]

Golf's are boring as fuck though. Quiet turbo, quiet engine and quiet exhaust. You have to modify them to get them sounding anywhere near the N.

[@MichaelStanton]

Not just Canada, of the three, I'd still get the Golf R over the other two.

[@kevindust2712]

Most Canadians don't need AWD, it just adds weight and impairs handling and fuel mileage most of the time. A fwd with a limited slip and a set of snow tires will get 95% of Canadians through the winter quite easily.

[@raymondchui5375]

Getting the N just for the pops. Gotta have my pops. All that savings and better warranty is more practical day to day for years.

[@gladdy02]

How the hell do you guys have access to all if these cars at one time?!👍🏼😊

[@Bryan-jj3if]

of*

[@oppanheimer]

I love this channel, it's not a pissing contest like top gear.

[@zdream720]

Throttle House came into my life so unexpectedly... Since a young child, BBC Top Gear was my all-time favorite show, and I think that will remain true for life. However, all great things come to an end, and when TG got canned by BBC, I went without car media in my life for a long time. So all I can say is, THANK YOU Throttle House for making car shows that are entertaining, informative, and a treat to watch. 🙏

[@Scottstunts]

The Type R is a weapon. Great work Honda! I have the 2018 Si and absolutely love it. Looks great next to my B16 powered 90 EF hatch.

[@joshderuiter6488]

I said it in another comment on another video, but I'll say it again. I love the detail that Thomas goes into when he starts talking about lap times. He goes so far beyond just saying "this car went this fast." That's one of the many things I love about this channel. Keep it up ThrottleHouse!!

[@556poor7]

Golf R should of had the DSG but I prefer the VW in almost every way. Looks are much cleaner and less cartoonish while also having major potential due to the AWD setup. Should get an Audi RS3 to put in the mix.

[@mrspencer72]

RS3 is in a totally different class. It'll almost be like comparing apples to oranges in a sense

[@signkutter9218]

The Golf R is designed for the DSG...the manual is an afterthought

[@MrMduchesne23]

a far comparison with all manuals but yes, you're 100% right. the DSG was what the R was designed for.

[@urellwashington2868]

The Volestor N looks like a Rocket League car ⚽️ 🚗

[@abramkidane9387]

Um no it doesn't lol

[@canadabear72]

This was not an entirely surprising result. The Golf R is nice car, but not a track car. The CTR is the best track car here, but is it 10K better than the Veloster N? I don't think so. Great job by Hyundai.

[@clutchfreak13]

Yes it is 10k better. The build quality is on another level tbh.

[@canadabear72]

@@clutchfreak13 You're right about the interior. The CTR is much nicer. I gotta disagree about the value though! There's no way the CTR is 10K better or put another way, almost 40 percent better.

[@stansid3326]

But for 10k extra you get to look like an absolute clown getting out of one of the ugliest, idiotic looking, AutoZone special, fake vents riced out cars ever made. That's priceless.

[@canadabear72]

@@stansid3326 Styling is a personal choice, but I'm with you on that! I'm too old to drive something like the CTR!

[@stansid3326]

@@canadabear72 I am not, yet I'd not be caught in it. It's one of the cars that IS objectively ugly. Nevermind all the tacky rice for 5 year olds glued on Type R. The base Civic hatchback is Frankenstein of a car. All the lines are just jacked up. It looks like 3-4 different cars welded together. Old Accord in the front and the rear is a Civic sedan frozen mid morph into a Subaru forester, stang by a bee and smashed by a semi truck. This car is Pontiac Aztec kind of ugly.

[@jesussegarra4148]

Those guys are the best, this is the best drag channel by far.

[@flopkin]

Nice video. Here’s my take: The Type R is absolutely ridiculous, it’s not even fair on the track, but the styling is out of control haha. I’m jealous that the United States won’t get the i30N, I know the Veloster N is essentially the same thing, but the Veloster isn’t anywhere near as practical as the i30... The interior of the Hyundai is definitely lacking, but again, it’s the price point, they put the money into the performance, not the luxury. Then the Golf R, the most sophisticated, laid back hot hatch there is. I personally like the way the Golf looks, but the track performance isn’t top tier anymore, same with the GTI at that. However, what it lacks in pure track shredding, it makes up for in the most comfortable cabin and the most presentable exterior you’re going to find in this segment. It’s the only car you can show up to your girlfriends parents house in, yet still be able to walk most vehicles on the road with. Depending on what your goals are, these cars will serve them perfectly without breaking the bank too much. If you want the best bang for your buck with performance, get the N line, if you want a track ripper that will burn anything in its path, get the Type R, if you want to be a grown up with some speed, get the Golf. All that said, can we get an F in the chat for the Focus RS (and ST)? Lol

[@kcav1255]

flopkin F - FoST owner here. The death of the US Focii is sad but they had a good run...like a resistance holding back the tide of crossovers and cute-utes. Now the Veloster N caries on the torch. It’s my pick.

[@jeremybrown3748]

Have 2 good friends, who are parents with a type r, great commuter with good gas mileage, and comfortable on long trips. All of us love the way the type r looks. We are in are mid 30s to 40s.

[@psewgobind]

Veloster N is a lighter car then i30N. Better off with a real N spec'd Accent at a much better price point.

[@Peterhaynes]

Golf R is less practical than the Civic, has worse seats and worse economy. The view that the Golf R is the only daily choice and that it is the only car that you can turn upto your girlfriends parents in.... well maybe for people who worry about what other people think. In real life the Civics looks arent too aggressive, no different to Evos and Subarus from the past.

[@Plupx]

how is the golf r less practical than the civic? just asking because i'm interested

[@bonamin]

"basicly, you have a car, cars rust, get it krowned." *laughs in all-aluminum Honda NSX* :D

[@karlhopkins713]

Aluminum still oxidizes, and still gets wholes in the body just like a steel car, and is still expensive to fix. Also it won't be as safe as a steel car either. Just look up aluminum f150 vs Camaro wreck and see for yourself.😉

[@Zepart1]

Straght line acceleration is so boring compared to fast cornering. That's why I got the CTR and I'm loving every bit of it!

[@rayflower1915]

Hey look guys michael schumacher is here. Every twat that says cornering this and that are shit drivers

[@Costaz666]

@@rayflower1915 Oh yeah, real good driver only driver in strait line.

[@Zepart1]

@@rayflower1915 Dont like corners? Bad memories of your moms workplace?

[@rayflower1915]

@@Costaz666 That's just an saying for the people think they know how to drive so they talk down on people who actually like to drive on the autobahn. You guys don't even take it to the track lmao

[@Costaz666]

@@rayflower1915 , what is interesting to drive fast on strait?

[@CZESAR99]

The veloster for the money and overall a fun quick car !! Love it !!!! 😎💪🏼👏🏻👏🏻

[@gwcrispi]

Got my N DCT two weeks ago. Fantastic car. At $32,500 that's about $7500 cheaper than the other two. Half a second faster 0-62 than the manual. Also, the new seats are similar to the Type R seats.

[@wannabegolfin24-72]

With the civic type r's markups, you could be looking at 15k more

[@sonofnothing]

​@@wannabegolfin24-72yep I'm seeing 2020 VN with ~15-20k on the clock going for $29k. Seeing used type R with similar mileage going for $43k so...

[@kjwong4730]

I bought the Type R, its worth the extra money. How much do you think the Hyundai will be worth 5 yrs from now? Vs the Type R resale value?

[@1wasinAlpha]

ikr people are actually comparing Honda to Hyundai! It's like comparing Toyota to a Chevy...

[@threepac]

KJ Wong the Type Rs are like gold. They will sell well on the secondary market.

[@mahaloaloha6819]

jaPANIS sucker lol

[@abb05]

Imo, I would take the N

[@tomastylecek7209]

if i could afford either one, i would go for the type R, because of the pedigree, resale and long term reliability, also the street cred and interior space

[@theweeknd2725]

And it looks like a supercar on road Lol, Big wing, Trio- exhaust and interesting modifications like side skirts, headlights and many other race model features

[@galerion505]

@@theweeknd2725 You will also get the attention of sitting in a supercar which is why the car is not for everyone. If you are a shy person who doesn't want to interact with other people don't get a Type R because people will look and stare at you, talk to you and will take pictures and videos.

[@theweeknd2725]

@Galerion: Dude... Just have confidence! Without it - you aren’t going to last or be successful where you want to be. Being confident is extremely important for having success in life, it has so many advantages. Why would you be shy of just people looking at your car? I would want that and I mean it would increase your prestige. Having attention is a hard thing - not all manufacturers can be able to achieve it.

[@galerion505]

@@theweeknd2725 Oh I know. Im not talking about myself. I owned a Type R and want one again. Just other people might not see it this way.

[@jessexiong69]

Yep speaking from experience. It draws alot of attention. Kinda like the underdog supercar.

[@melacon00]

I had the pleasure of renting a Type-R (Euro spec, +10 hp!) for 4 laps of the Nurburgring. Not only was I blown away by the entire experience of driving all out on a proper race track, but the Type-R was SO much faster than I expected! Hondas aren't really my thing, so I was out of touch with what the car might be able to do, but it was literally the most fun thing I've ever done in my life. Note: I went there to rent a Renault Megane, being in my price range and one of the few manual gearboxes. Track day came and they said it wasn't available so they upgraded me for free to the Civic. I was disappointed at first, but it was ~$200 and 50hp worth of upgrade, so I didn't complain.

[@hondasarefaster5914]

You did well, Honda type r is such a better car than megane and more power too..

[@lizakoronovsky227]

Hondas are the real deal my friend…

[@honshin23]

Golf R - $40,000 - 1:20:00 - most livable Civic Type R - $35,700 - 1:15:63 - the fastest Veloster N - $26,900 - 1:18:62 - most fun Who is the best?

[@tom.mk7_151]

Golf R can be tuned the best but at a hefty price. Its interior is top of its class. The Civic looks decent and sounds ok with straight pipe. It's got a tacky amount of red trim. Meh

[@kenjkbs]

With 40000 in my pocket I would not buy a golf period. Looks too cheap

[@tom.mk7_151]

@@kenjkbs I agree. Everyone who has a gti near me laughs hysterically at the guys with R's cause they spent 15k extra on a piece of shit. If I put 15k into my gti you bet your ass it's going to have at least 800 hp

[@eksentrysyti]

You'll have to factor in maintenance costs. Between VW, Honda, and Hyundai, who would you trust to have a working car in 10 years? Easily the Honda. And the CTR seems to be plenty comfortable to daily. Nice seats, and noticeably less camera shake during the hot lap comparison than the other two.

[@MJT-DA]

@@eksentrysyti you know bmw helped build the car for hyundai its not gonna be totally unreliable infact hyundai is in the top 5 most reliable cars. Even my 2010 hyundai elantra is freaking reliable not only Japanese cars are reliable my friend.

[@chrisreilly4006]

Maybe one day I can afford a Veloster N. I’m so proud they finally released a decent sport hatch that has balls

[@jeremyferguson3788]

Chris Reilly i have one. Worth every penny

[@taniamonge2301]

Jeremy Ferguson would you say it’s reliable? I’m considering buying one but I’m worried it’ll break down in a couple years

[@jimmypena2442]

@@taniamonge2301 10 year warranty, unless you plan on keeping it for longer

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@taniamonge2301 So far my Veloster N has been 100% reliable.

[@the_good_fam7873]

@@buildmorefarms1007 I have a 2013 Veloster with 100k miles and it’s been very reliable and has never had any serious breakdowns with average upkeep and care.

[@jameskliewer5809]

If you don't need the horsepower, the Civic Sport handles very well, although it doesn't have the same special suspension as the Type R. For regular street use, the Civic Sport non-turbo automatic gets good mileage, and you can corner with the best. Very competitive price, too.

[@bryce850]

Drove all of them recently and the Golf Rs interior is so nice in comparison, but I liked the other two for other reasons as well. My pick is the Golf R overall.

[@ge-8135]

The utility of awd is hard to beat. The price is the killer. Ouch!

[@SpaceMissile]

and then you drop ~$2000 on simple mods and a tune and you'd be beating any of the others.

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@SpaceMissile In a straight line... simple mods and a tune are not going to make it handle better.

[@hondasarefaster5914]

Bad pick, Honda is better and nicer interior..

[@hondasarefaster5914]

@@ge-8135 awd is easy to beat.. Honda beats it.

[@backnu]

The ride in the Veloster N is perfect!! It's not bad on the street. I tested one today. I'm still glad they are making cars for men.

[@dankim7031]

Best verdict of any other similar reviews. If you want FAST=CTR, COMFORT/SAFETY=Golf R, FUN=Vel N. Personally, I have the Vel N, and it is fun AF! 👍

[@Newzchspy]

Dan Kim just don't own the Golf R out of warranty.....

[@acchaladka]

@@Newzchspy Or, take care of your goddamn car like a German does and you'll have it for decades. Like I did mine. In ROW markets VW is known for reliability mostly because people follow the book and do service on time, replace parts etc. Even in N America VW reliability has been average or better for about a decade now.

[@dankim7031]

@@Newzchspy My last car was MK7 GTI with APR stage III w/Golf R turbo. Great car, fast, not as fun as Vel N. Rattled and squeaked everywhere. Vel N may look and feel cheap inside, but at least it's built solid. I am very happy with it.

[@IronMan-nm7lr]

Veloster N owner here, very sad they discontinued this awesome hatch for the Kona CUV!

[@drewshegda34]

I NEED to get a Veloster N (of course performance package) as my next car. The interior/exterior design is okay, but man that engine sounds great and seems like a blast to drive

[@justinmartin4841]

Buy that disposable! The honda will run 3 times longer

[@Ballsack44]

Did u get one?

[@Ballsack44]

@@justinmartin4841 nah Hyundai isn’t what it used to be. This is coming from a guy who’s had both an rsx type s and an 8th gen civic si. It’s all about how you maintain them.

[@drewshegda34]

@@Ballsack44 i actually didn't. Ended up buying a motorcycle because it's all i can afford for the time being. Hard to beat 5k for a machine that goes 0-60mph in 3.2 seconds when you're on a budget 🤣🤣🤣

[@cosmic_gate476]

I drove a Veloster N today. My friends keep saying the interior looks bad, but I didn't even notice it while driving, the experience was almost overwhelming because it touched all my senses. And the shift lights, you have to experience them to believe how cool they look when you're ripping it. It was my first time driving manual in years, but I didn't stall once (rev matching off), very forgiving car.

[@Catgat37]

I test drove a manual Golf R and it was the first manual I have driven in a very long time. It also reminded me how bad my knees are, and how any enjoyable driving engagement wouldn't be worth the amount of pain in local traffic. Ended up buying a Veloster N DCT. I love the interior personally. Very minimalist.

[@DasWauto]

I have no doubt the Type-R is brilliant on track but they come from the factory with much stickier tires than the other 2. I would love to see all three on a control tire to see if and how that changes the results - if the Golf can make better use of its AWD, if the Honda still takes it with its focused suspension and lighter weight and if the Veloster can take (even) better advantage of its further weight advantage.

[@sparkystone2743]

This is the perfect idea! It would actually let the cars shine on an even playing field for what they are. But the stock tires on a golf R are complete trash. Not sure what comes on the Hyundai but it probably isn't what the Civic is working with.

[@mayuquitomayu4743]

VW is to blame. Why they pick the craziest tires for all their cars is beyond reason. My R32 came with some Dunlop AS that were sheer trash. Terrible performance and bubbles from every possible contact with any curb. The type R is the best car as this is how Honda intended it to be outfitted.

[@6spdkeg]

most channels and magazines get these test all wrong because they try to hold up the std of "from the factory" all the damn time. These are most of the time press cars and many people get to flog them. All VW and other companies need to do is offer a package with good 180-200 TW tires. But yeah. add some tires and a track alignment to the Golf R and it should not be loosing by much to the Type R.

[@Tigerex966]

veloster has the best tires

[@TassieLorenzo]

Type R comes on ContiSportContact 6 which is a road tyre equivalent to the Pirelli P Zero on the Veloster. :) The Golf R would come with the ContiSportContact 5P which is the same SportContact series but an older model, or sometimes the Potenza S001 (VW have a tyre 'lottery' system, where you don't get a specific tyre, but instead a random brand depending on production cycles).

[@asafmenjivar7936]

thanks fellas, that was fun to watch! cheers

[@jameslentsoane9037]

You guys are good...your channel will grow very quickly. This is Pay Per View quality, awesome. Pssst...I'm not saying take that route, you're perfect here.

[@makattak88]

Easily the best car review channel on KZbin. Proudly Canadian!

[@foehammerone]

You guys are putting some very high quality videos! Entertaining and informative. Subbed

[@lycanzhp1141]

Now THAT was brilliant! It's like car porn for us average Joe's. Thank you very much.

[@ThePizzaDevourer]

Battle of the (relatively) affordable hot hatches! A review for the masses!

[@noelmedina6925]

Only the Veloster is affordable, the Civic is 9k more and the Golf 5k more than the civic

[@ikarugaxx3749]

Relatively masses. Lol.

[@PerformanceBlueOverYou]

Noel Medina if you can even find a civic for that price. I checked yesterday and they’re still price gouging it. $44,000-50,000 by me.

[@noelmedina6925]

@@PerformanceBlueOverYou I know, but the Veloster and Golf suffer from the same problem of dealers pricing how they want. Even considering this, the Veloster is still cheeper and the golf more expensive.

[@boblecocojames]

Ive been in love with The veloster N ever since it came out. I bought one barely a month ago and it was limited edition cause of the color. Paint job name is "Shooting star"

[@kserye0829]

seriously im a honda fanboy. owned 3 honda's previously. honda fit, honda civic and civic Si. and now Im driving an ACURA TSX. but this veloster N definitely changed my mind and I'm working my way to get this car. my TSX is already up for sale. I cant wait to have this thing.

[@disco.lemonade]

i don't buy it. it aint better. and when you add things to the car, is basically the same price and still faster, better, more reliable with better resale value.

[@MrSTROM26]

Bro, u can buy brand new gti for 27k, stage 1 it and it will rekt that N with easy. You are paying less for more powerful and fun engine. On the end of the day N will always be just silly Hyundai

[@scat3926]

@@MrSTROM26 wait till you see what some will do to it also ofcorsue when you mod something it will be faster stock for stock Hyundai is better than gti

[@414Chevy]

Put a bigger anti sway bar on the Golf R, done. I have a 2008 R32 that plowed like a dump truck in fast, tight turns. Put a bigger anti sway bar on the rear, now the car is perfectly neutral, going very fast in tight turns, with nose turn in off throttle. Completely transformed the car. It just needs about 100 more horse power because it is really heavy. Really like that Civic Type R though.

[@claystil1]

Really good stuff. Loving this format.

[@ericperkins2822]

i love these videos. especially since i have a type r. ive only had it for about a month now so i havent tracked it yet. but i definitely look forward just on your videos alone. the type r against the m2 was also a great video!

[@jduff8180]

Type R is awesome on the track but u can’t beat the refined Golf R on a daily basis. And the Veloster is overall pretty good besides for the interior. All very good cars, it just depends on what ur looking for.

[@Peterhaynes]

Type R is really refined too, all modern cars are.

[@disco.lemonade]

well, that's true but i wouldn't buy a hot hatch to be refined lol... it's for the track and fun. i'd get an accord or a jetta for mon thru fri.

[@Peterhaynes]

@@disco.lemonade exactly you buy the Type R because it is the Hottest to drive, track and road.

[@Lemon-tr1om]

Underrated. Good job throttle house!!

[@anesniksic1593]

This without a doubt have Hyundai the attention they deserve, so excited to see what else they can do

[@billplaschka9279]

Golf R - $50,000 Type R - $49,000 Type N - $42,000 This is all in rounded...not taking into account any deals etc. When I bought my Golf R dsg late last year, with incentives it was cheaper than the Type R, and has proven to be a load of fun. Great review! Will have to take a look at the Type N for sng...

[@TheBb6prelude]

Type r dude completely trashed the launch 😂

[@MrKrishnadevotee]

seen on other videos (car wow)the type r does a faster quarter mile than the golf r

[@capblueberry]

@@MrKrishnadevotee no it doesn't lol...Golf R is quicker by a tenth or so as a manual and a half second if it's dsg....

[@NaseemHeno1]

@@MrKrishnadevotee well idk ,but the golf R that carewow use in their videos is fkn garbage,it loses to cars that has same/less horsepower

[@MrKrishnadevotee]

@@NaseemHeno1 okay maybe I am thinking about the rolling race, it beats golf in the rolling race for sure everytime

[@PieMK6R]

😂 the driver was like "c'mon turbo" 😂😂

[@DarthChewie]

Thomas is a beast of a driver. Absolute monster.

[@cybresaint]

Something for everybody, loved this review guys.

[@jjf3934]

I have a 2016 GTI se and that 2019 R just screams my name I want one that will be my next car

[@3811eric]

Without a doubt, I will buy Veloster N! It's my money and I am gonna spend it with the max. value! Civic R is a fast car but there is no way I am going to pay what they are asking for... Hell NO!

[@tommieboi707]

The type r will hold value better in the long run. Spend the extra money and get the r.

[@sfisosg7904]

Ok if they aren't and ur paying MSRP would u take it

[@SpaceMissile]

civic is sooooo overstyled and honestly IMHO kinda ugly. to be fair though, the type-R _has_ grown on me over the years. the Veloster looks great too, but the golf is cleaaaaarly the best-looking car in this lineup.

[@hondasarefaster5914]

@@SpaceMissile golf looks like crap and go like crap too, Honda looks way better. Vw is a grannys car..

[@SpaceMissile]

@@hondasarefaster5914 wrong, wrong, and wrong. 0% F; apply yourself

[@Hybrid_Golf]

I got my N in Feb 2020 and I love it. N mode will shake your spine apart, but it's so much fun to drive.

[@MrFolton17]

And to think the golf is even FASTER with the automatic. What a car, man

[@mattyoz0]

Did you watch the part on the lap times? LOL

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@mattyoz0 We do not daily drive on a track.....the GOlf R smoked the N and R in the drag race.

[@mattyoz0]

@@buildmorefarms1007 and we don't sit at traffic lights with our launch controls bouncing off their limiter every day.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@mattyoz0 Still the Golf R was fastest by wide margin at the drag race. Undeniable victory.

[@mattyoz0]

@@buildmorefarms1007 and it sucked at the track. Undeniable fail.

[@ricardoramirez9510]

I love the track portion of the video. Showing all three laps on one screen even gave me adrenaline. 20 Veloster N stage 2 tune borla exhaust.

[@Gjeebs]

You guys do great work and give great consumer advice for these types of cars. Keep it up

[@SilverScarletSpider]

got to admit, throttle house is at its best when not in off road vehicles nor track videos; but in sporty everyday cars like the BMW M340i Xdrive

[@MLeeder53]

I've been trying to eliminate the 2nd gear grind in my type r. Honestly the best fix i have found for it is thicker fluid. Redline MT-90 works great!!

[@MLeeder53]

@Humain Terrien Yeah I've seen that. not my issue. Fluid changed helped. Plus the master cylinder hasn't changed from 17-19 so I think his just had a defect.

[@clutchfreak13]

Gen 8, or FN2 to be exact had the 3rd gear grind, popping out sometimes. Problem was the 3rd gear syncro.

[@MLeeder53]

@@clutchfreak13 yeah! one thing i fear with the FK8 is here in the states its such a collector and will be that no one will actually drive them enough for this to be a large issues and honda then updating the parts.

[@Pete0126]

Adjusting CMC and changing to amsoil syncromesh fixed in my 07 Civic SI. For some reason Honda cannot escape this issue.

[@MLeeder53]

@@Pete0126 i know right?? For how good their transmissions feel, they just cant fix this issue or engineer it out.

[@t4k166]

I love how people are just ignoring the golf R and focusing on the Hyundai Volester and Honda civic

[@Grizzly1644]

Why haven’t Honda fixed the gearbox issue on the 2019 model!?

[@nisrrah8198]

ITs not an issue, let it bed in, unlike the dsg issues and gearbox issues on every golf

[@jaybosher6144]

Frag Zilla lol there’s no such thing as bedding in, the gears are build to mesh with each other. It’s an issue and should be resolved. I don’t know of any manual car that requires a “bed in” and at 40k it damn well better not need too

[@brendanfogel4573]

Imo the golf r is probably the most underrated sports car

[@walidriaz]

I honestly love your videos. Just one small request: I know that the Canadians are the sweetest people, but you guys can be a little more open and blunt with the problems you see in the car xD Thank youu for the entertainment!

[@blackthunder8311]

Watching videos like this right before I go buy my Veloster N really get me even more pump up

[@supertin32]

Did you get it?? I’m looking into buying one too it’s just hard to find them here in California!

[@blackthunder8311]

@@supertin32 yes! Definitely a neck breaker since people don’t know what it is

[@blackthunder8311]

@@supertin32 There was one in Gilroy California

[@dead_freak_prgaming2290]

Great content nice overall review for the cars I'll probably get the veloster N with the performance pack it just seems so fun. Funny but weird to think ten years ago we would be mentioning hyundai, Honda and VW in a match up. They are improving a lot and props for doing so

[@wesleyrivera9756]

I’m in the process of buying the Veloster N right now and I can’t wait to drive it!

[@davidharrison9732]

The golf was designed to have dsg from the beginning , you should test it with that

[@jmm1174]

Great Comparison Throttle house 👏👏👏👏👏👍

[@aroundtheglobe555]

The veloster looks the most fun to drive 🤷‍♂️

[@Bushey4545]

It does but it also looks so much better, like way better

[@cronicgamerzsmicrowave2712]

@@Bushey4545 I think the Type R looks nicer. The Golf is ugly as hell though and I think we can agree on that

[@YtRando69]

Just a tune in the golf r and its hunting super cars! You guys should have tested with the dsg and launch control, it's quite a bit quicker. That EA888 platform is amazing!

[@TassieLorenzo]

An engine tune is not going to make the Golf R handle better! You need to rework the swaybars, the dampers, the springs, wider wheels, the R doesn't have the aero (the splitter & rear wing) which the GTI Clubsport has, you need the Recaros from the GTI Clubsport too -- it's a lot more than a retune needed to bring the Golf R up to spec.