2020 70th Anniversary GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

We were treated to a great race for F1's 70th anniversary celebrations. Tommy is joined by Tommo F1 (who comes in as a last minute Nico Hulkenberg replacement) to talk about Verstappen's victory and whether Vettel will stay with Ferrari for the rest of the season.
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[@TomP1Bellingham]

Hope this is still an enjoyable podcast despite me having to host it 😳😳

[@abrar1ahmed9]

Good job Tommy!

[@lorenzonicosia535]

I love the addition of TommoF1

[@MarkoTardelli]

Fine job (so far, you could mess up still). Tommccluskey is a fine addition. You should make it a threesome again. Let him replace Jess in a way

[@grogg2243]

Well done Tommy!

[@Kalki1122]

I always like it when ur on the podcast!

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

2018: Seb vs Ham 2019: Seb vs Leclerc 2020: Seb vs Ferrari

[@johnstones339]

Funny thing is he lost all lf those

[@KenSerpico5450]

2021: Seb vs Serg

[@ajaycee]

@@KenSerpico5450 praying for that

[@laletraf5568]

People this season: Can Vettel last the season? People in 2017: Can Vettel win the title? People in 2011: *Can anyone match vettel*

[@adammodan8030]

la letra F good memories of that game

[@benhardcastle2305]

Hopefully the same thing happens to Hamilton

[@spencook7]

Ben Hardcastle do you not like him?

[@mickwell3746]

@la letra F f1 2011 - 14 vibes

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

This season: Can Vettel get into Q3?

[@joshsmith7521]

Should have named this the wtf1 tomcast

[@WTF1official]

Big brain time

[@jeffwigand6805]

dont leave me, dont leave me!

[@Leo31291]

"A team would not sabotage their own car". Flavio says hi.

[@ntlespino]

Crashgate 2 Hybrid Boogaloo?

[@lucascavalcantecosta117]

That happened with Sauber sabotaging Nasr as well

[@AJAYorASAV]

Tommy and Matty should really include Tommo to more of these. It’s great having another person’s insight into what they think went down.

[@fkez0510]

"Seb would be born again in a new team" I like that one Tommy Probably very true as well

[@Triiiplz]

I doubt it man it’s not all the teams fault. He is not in the right mindset and is making silly rookie mistakes. Reminder he’s a 4 world champion and is considered being dropped halfway through the season indicates a sign his career is washed despite his team and car

[@billylawuk]

Doubt it. It's not like when he left RedBull-Ferrari.

[@babbel7070]

@@Triiiplz no way vettel turned this bad on his own

[@Triiiplz]

BabbelGamer I think he did, just think he can’t mentally handle being slower than his own teammate. Vettel has always needed the best car to win

[@ethandong1313]

Vettle is a sell out. He is done after 2013.

[@rickstrating7090]

Try and keep tommof1 for future podcasts

[@jomillen5131]

I've seen Tommo to WTF1 for a while, I like him personally

[@davey2487]

They should get him as the third member of the podcast. It creates more interaction and of course the more opinion, the better.

[@lordegravy2827]

Davey 100%

[@BMPHF1]

Tom and Tom on the WTF1 podcast. Ya love to see it ❤️

[@thecouch4702]

Oh and here he is again

[@alatyrakowska76]

Two Brits: 'Barcelona is gonna be boiling!' Me: So, this time you mean more than 20 degrees, right?

[@vonelle9122]

Matt, Tommy & Tommo would be a perfect podcast lineup 👌🏽

[@Locormus2]

Put Tommo in a dress and we've for our new Jess! Gosh I miss her..

[@Julian-gi4up]

To the Ferrari VS SEB. I really disapointed in Ferrari! They had such a good time, challenged Mercedes and now since they got a new "Golden Boy" They treat Seb like a dog. In my opinion that´s a 90% Ferrari fault that the Season goes the way it goes

[@sugatamukherjee9188]

Let us see how long the golden boy lasts. Let him win 4 world Championships and then we talk

[@Julian-gi4up]

@@sugatamukherjee9188 At the moment his best chance would be to leave the red boys if he wants to get atleast one i guess :;D

[@sugatamukherjee9188]

Let Carlos sainz get there next season and we will see who gets the preferential treatment and better strategies

[@kimi88cz]

Vettel is absolutely horrible to be honest..fault is at both sides

[@ccramit]

Ferrari management and strategy is terrible, but they aren't the ones spinning out in turn 1 lap 1. Seb has lost some of his form, it's clear as day. His poor performances cannot be solely blamed on engineers and mechanics.

[@axol1238]

One thing's for sure: Drive To Survive is going to be *SPICY* this year.🔥🔥🔥

[@connorwinter2555]

Are they filming it at all? Given Covid I'd thought they wouldn't allow any extra people in the paddock?

[@axol1238]

@@connorwinter2555 Well I know that the Haas team are being filmed.

[@connorwinter2555]

@@axol1238 That's great to hear. I couldn't find any information on it.

[@marcov4190]

Max is a old school true racer! F1 need people like him, he reminds me of Senna!

[@mrmathh3680]

Mate, i'd love to see Tommo more often in the podcast, i love his content just as much as i love wtf1...

[@ZEROxFUSIONZ]

Just a heads up, Ricciardo Hulk, Russell, and Latifi all did 3 stops so maybe give a point?

[@johnstones339]

Ric didn't want to 3 stop tho, he had to pit again after the stop

[@alexsmith32012]

@@johnstones339 Ricciardo was pitted on Mediums the stupidest call, every one else went onto hard that right there killed his race then he spun. But Renault said yeah we are doing a two stop strategy on a bad tyre from the start even knowing what the other teams were doing it was crazy. The spin can be used to cover up the mess a situation Renault put him in.

[@speccyneek]

Tommy: "I dont think there are many people that hate Bottas" Jess: *Smiles*

[@dragospahontu]

So much better without Jess

[@speccyneek]

@@dragospahontu Why?

[@dragospahontu]

@@speccyneek she's dodgy

[@speccyneek]

@@dragospahontu How is she dodgy lmao

[@dragospahontu]

@@speccyneek she's that type of girl you break up with and stalks you afterwards.

[@alexrobertssings]

I definitely think Seb has mentally checked out of Ferrari and wants to leave as soon as possible and if he can force his way our early he will. If Spain, Spa and Monza are as bad as the last two races I can also see Ferrari just straight up sacking Seb and getting Giovinazzi in for the Mugello race if only to have an Italian driver in the car for the PR.

[@amograo9060]

i think they might get hulk in the car for the remainder instead of gio

[@alexrobertssings]

@@amograo9060 Possibly. At least then they wouldn't have to find a replacement at Alfa.

[@Fresta93]

Me thinking.. I'm going to bed early today. Notification pops up that this podcast just dropped. Yeah short night it is..

[@Aemond2024]

Het is toch veel te warm om te slapen

[@iscream4761]

Vettel to skyf1: "i try to get out of bed and do as best as i can" Man, I'm *very* worried for him, struggling to get out of bed is a known sign of depression... Also the team doesn't seem to care about his mental health - or mojo if you will- and that's a huge problem.

[@nikolasthyr9538]

Yeah, i miss seeing happy Vettel

[@SonOfTheRightHand29]

He's not depressed, he's just struggling with the car and relationship with the team is coming to an end

[@B8kedBean]

@@SonOfTheRightHand29 its weighing heavy on him, hes obvioisly not like clinically depressed or anything but he is depressed in the sense of not being his normal self and id imagine its the same away from the track

[@emirdurakovic4731]

@@B8kedBean Doesnt mean he is depressed, might just be a sad time, but after winning 4 world championships, one bad year wont give you depression

[@Viewfromlookout]

@@emirdurakovic4731 No but finding out your fired from someone else than your team as a driver must be horrible to go though they should of maned up and told him face to face that he was sacked he shouldn't of herd from Sky sports F1

[@Alexander27463]

What i also found really amusing is that Max had some capacity left to tell the team to sanitize their sweaty hands at the end of the race

[@Lily1127channel]

32:00 Thank you!!! Finally some reason in the F1 fan community. It's actually scary to see how many idiots there are, saying Ferrari do this to Seb on purpose to prevent him from getting close to Charles and beating him. That's such bullshit. And it's really insane there are people actually seriously thinking it. I just saw the video of Seb's post race interview on the Sky YT channel and basically all the comments say it's sabotaaaaaage! Oh, people, just use some basic human logic.... Their car is already shit enough, it's already a humiliation that they have so much less constructor points than in previous years, I'm pretty sure they are trying to get the maximum they can out of that shitbox (with the 2 different drivers they have, with 2 different driving styles!), it's just that they always mess something up, including the strategy, but not on purpose, of course.

[@brookegarbarini]

I’m not sure about requiring two stops, as one of the things that made this race interesting was the uncertainty over whether certain drivers would do two stops (for instance, Leclerc made the one stop strategy work really well while everyone around him came in twice).

[@SaadHaque72]

Brooke Garbarini yeah same, rather just make it softer so either u go safe and 2 stop or gamble on one stop and have much faster cars in fresh rubber behind you

[@ccramit]

Yes, it wasn't necessarily the pit stops, but a combination of other things. Even with the two stopping teams, there was a question of when and what compound. Will they be pushing on that compound or will they be managing them and switch and then push on the next compound? It kept every team scrambling and changing strategies on the fly. Whatever it is, there is no question that this race was probably one of the more interesting races in a while and the midfield battles weren't more interesting than the leaders. I think Pirelli will have a lot to do about making races interesting again. Maybe make the tires softer to the point that 2 sets COULD make it to the end if they are nursed the whole race, but 3 sets will be the faster and preferred option. I feel like right now, most teams know they can make it to the end relatively easily on 2 sets so they don't even think twice about one stopping and so the entire race is just tire management and only maybe 4 or 5 laps of actual racing. Look at the more interesting races in 2019. Germany had ever changing weather conditions so that pit stops were randomly occurring and people were all on different sets of compounds at different times. Or Brazil 2019 (granted, there were safety cars and penalties), where Max stopped 3 times, Hamilton 3 times, Gasly twice, and Sainz just once.

[@briarbradshaw9417]

Exactly, it's about the varience and uncertainty.

[@mikewazowski7457]

Nice try with the 3 compound rule suggestion. Don't think it will work as it will limit the strategy options. You would not have a Leclerc finishing on P4 with a dog of a car by doing a 1 stop strategy. If all compounds would be mandatory it is a easy calculation what order is fastest. Start on the hard, second stint on the medium and last stint on the software, just based on weight. This is even more predictable than what is implemented now. Next option would be to return to refueling, to get the weight as a variable. Skip the tire requirements, we are back to what the rules where before the tyre requirements. People will start complaining that F1 is to much based on strategy's instead of drivers skill. Can't please everyone. Be glad this race gave a different result. Verstappen has always been good at tyre management and with the Mercedes chewing the rubber away at high temperatures gave the Red Bull a chance to push them over the cliff.

[@Septimus_ii]

I've only started watching F1 recently and I've been impressed with Bottas' ability to put in good times in clean air, but very underwhelmed by his inability to overtake

[@johnbowlerwell7301]

We should ditch the Q2 starting tyre rule, then mandate that everyone used all 3 tyres during the race. This forces a 2-stop race and will definitely produce mixed strategies.

[@Zaphkiel3]

Well, you know of course Vettel screwed up with that spin,but he still managed to get from 20th to 12th, so his race pace is not total rubbish. With a better strategy he could have finished in the points. So maybe in a different car he really could be competitive again.

[@y1521t21b5]

VET looks and sounds fed up. Sad to witness.

[@colin4868]

The idea with using all three tyre compounds is soooo juicy man sheesh

[@firdous8905]

‘Any race where Mercedes doesn’t win is an exciting race’ Yup well said, even though the race was same as always, like the superior car won. Just because Mercedes didn’t win, it became all of a sudden historic race😣

[@varunsambi2004]

true, so true, it wasnt an exciting race.

[@HarrieWorst]

@@varunsambi2004 in terms of a viewers spectacle indeed. It was quite a boring race with some very occasional good action. On the other hand, it was a tactical masterpiece. Not only Verstappen managing his tyres as a boss, but Leclerc as well. And Albon who come back the lon way. If he only would have better saturdays. And when you look to other teams beside Mercedes, they almost all had tyres full of blistering and signs of excessive wear at the end of the race. It was not an unique situation exclusive to Mercedes. But the first race at Silverstone was the pinnacle of F1's problem with lacking racing for both the general public and racing fans. At least the 70th anniversary edition had more action and suspense for the racing fans. Though still not enjoyable for the general public I think.

[@HarrieWorst]

@firdous it was indeed far from historic. The only historic about it, it was the first and last F1 70th anniversary grand prix. And when I look at unique celebrating edition races, Mercedes doesn't have a great track record for them. They lost it at their own 125th anniversary at Hockenheim, and they lost it at the F1 70th. And Verstappen won both.

[@firdous8905]

Patrick van der Meulen verstappen’s master class? Even Albon did the same provided he started from the back, it was more about the car how they handled the tires. Good race from from both RB drivers but imo it’s same as any other Mercedes win and should not be treated as a master class. Because the win was inevitable!

[@firdous8905]

Patrick van der Meulen and yes Mercedes have some kind of bad luck at anniversaries it seems 😢

[@romanywadsworth7929]

Love the podcast guys! Well done Tommy for hosting this week, a great job :) Loved having Tommo on here too, hearing some different views and points was interesting! You'd make a great team of 3. Looking forward to seeing more of it

[@sofiejones7270]

Oh my god tommo is on the official wtf1 podcast!!! I’ve been following him since 1k subs and so happy to see him achieve such a big milestone in f1 media

[@emmanichols6905]

1:05:07 both Williams and Ricciardo did a three stop too. We deserve a point!

[@brickisland6353]

I can agree on one thing, and that is, when one driver starts winning to much, like Hamilton, like Vettel or Schumacher. All you want is for someone to come and beat them.

[@danw6530]

Then once they retire we all miss them and say those were the golden days haha

[@SamuelSantos_]

@@danw6530 Exactly, everyone hated Vettel 7 years ago and now everyone loves him.

[@GamerFlair]

The Q2 Tyre rule came in because the teams there were only just getting into Q3 were straight up not bothering to go out so they could run the harder compound.

[@Boerkreeelis]

I'm not sure about the 2-stop rule, or using 3 types of tires. Although I'd love a bit more variation in the races, you might just end up with only battles being fought using tactics rather than on track, as you might get drivers on softs easily overtaking drivers on hard who are not on the same strategy and just don't want to lose time. When you include that many new variables, it might just lead to completely incomprehensible races (for those perhaps not as into F1) as people in front are not actually in front because they are on a different strategy with a different tire. As far as choosing the tire: Making that more risky choice of trying it on medium or hard can also be interesting, I wouldn't throw it out immediately. I would remove any ruling about party-modes, have them all set up as they would use in the race, but I'm not sure about the suggestions. Then again, it's always worth a try (which is why it was a shame the reverse grid didn't get its test run, even though I don't agree with the idea).

[@tribe_tv1922]

Biggest problem I see is that you effectively remove tyre management as a skill. Some of the best races are ones ijn which 1 stop runners try to make it to the end and hold track position through tyre management vs faster 2stop runners. Perez has several podiums by driving like this and it'd be a shame to see that free choice of strategy disappear

[@Boerkreeelis]

@@tribe_tv1922 Yeah true, there is that issue as well. I am a bit worried that it might lead to a champion with only tire-saving as the main quality, but it is undoubtedly a skill that shoud shine through

[@jamiedyett2625]

The Q2 tyre rule was brought in cause the old rule where the top 10 start on their Q3 tires meant the upper midfield cars (pos. 7-10) wouldnt run in Q3 so they get a choice of tire for the race start. So they brought the Q2 tyre rule so all cars in Q3 have a free set to qualify on and push as hard as possibke without having to run it in the race

[@jamiedyett2625]

@peter pan I don't disagree with you but i do think if you allow like the top 4 or 6 cars tos tart on whatever tyre they wish youll never get a podium finish from a midfield team or a lower team snatching a podium

[@jamiedyett2625]

@peter pan again i agree i just think if you allowed all the drivers to start on whatever they wanted the top 3 teams would dominate even more than they do as they dont have to compromise their strategy at all and the top 3 will all just do the say thing as each other maybe RBR will do an alternate strategy every now and then but i dont think itll change anything tbh

[@jamiedyett2625]

@peter pan you got me there 😂😂 tbh im not against changing thw rule i just think its not really that problematic and isnt actually hard to understand

[@sebsta_9914]

Tommo mentioning Rosberg got me thinking about how crazy the 2017 and 2018 title fight would’ve been with Rosberg v Hamilton v Vettel

[@demarcogayle1114]

Full shout out to TommoF1 for giving Tommy company and I do hope you guys have Tommo back.

[@joshmaude5287]

Did a great job hosting it tommy 👍🏼

[@SamM-ow7yl]

We love your podcast WTF1. I should make way on my schedule to listen to this more.

[@Randomizer-hl1dn]

Nico Rosberg: Is Matt Gallagher's career over? **cue explosion background** Joke aside, Tommo did well, enjoyed his podcast in his youtube channel as well. Hope to see more collaborations in the future :D

[@varunsambi2004]

there should get nico rosberg for a podcast, he likes youtube :P

[@Randomizer-hl1dn]

@@varunsambi2004 actually, why not? WTF1 collaborate with Tommo, Nico Rosberg and Josh Revell. Josh Revell got the savagery needed to add some spice in podcast.

[@varunsambi2004]

Randomizer101 and cranky yankee f1 for data and analysis. That man and his videos are insane.

[@Randomizer-hl1dn]

@@varunsambi2004 agree!

[@esmarjustinussen6756]

a 3way podcast with tom tom and matt needs to happen

[@aidenf1795]

If you had 2 mandatory pitstops, would that mean that all the overtaking would happen in the Pitlane?

[@andreborges3849]

Thank you!!!! No matter what these teams specially Mercedes will find a way of optimising the tyres they have... give them f2 used tyres and in a couple of races merc will have the strategy nailed. And no one will overtake on track!

[@toniportus]

Probably if teams/drivers could have a 2 stops strategy as a real enough competitive alternative to 1 stop, then races would be a little less predictable. Anyway I would not like 2 mandatory pit-stops. I definitely prefer overtakes on the track ;)

[@TheChosenButeo]

Vettel out during the season is easy, Vettel out, Gio in that Ferrari till the end and Kubica in the Alfa seat.

[@HarrieWorst]

Indeed, this would be the best solution for all. The situation between Vettel and Ferrari is getting worse per race. Toxicity between the two is getting more and more public. And that's hurting both Ferrari and Vettel.

[@oscarjohnson1916]

I dont like the idea of mandatory 2 stops for a race. It goes against drivers who are better at saving their tyre. I always think of Kobayashi pitting with 3 laps to go and nicking a 3rd place. Change the tyres so that there are different strategy options between a 1 vs 2 stop or a 2 vs 3 stop. Forcing drivers to stop multiple times just seems too much of an intrusive rule for me.

[@benardo01]

You should do this as a premiere so we can live chat with each other at the same time while you are talking

[@aretrograde7745]

Tommo should be a permanent part of future podcasts. Have all 3 of you guys would be great.

[@DonCheadle27]

If it was mandatory to do a 2 stop drivers would push more as looking after tires wouldn't be a problem and it gives more strategy. its so simple how has liberty not thought of this. Also ye definitely agree with scrapping the Q2 tyre rule

[@NunoSalvaterra]

Make the Chandhok/Bellingham three-compound rule a reality in 2021!

[@j.j.schlachtfeld9325]

Great one, guys! Both Tommo and Tommy were really good!

[@TwoTwoFourSix]

Albon P3 Spain. Heard it here first

[@Alexander27463]

Im a Max Verstappen fan. And i love McLaren. But i love Formula 1 so i want the best races with the most interesting stuff happening. So if its a great race i'll love it even if McLaren and max dont do well

[@DenisKudlik]

a team will always have a slight preference for the better/faster driver. the intensity of that preference depends on how far up the field the team is - battling for the title, for wins, podiums, points? vettel has completely checked out at this point, even though ferrari getting rid of him is fair. every time i see him talk it looks like he couldn't care less, and it's been like that for a while now, not just this year but also last year and the years before that after he lost the title challenge or the countless times he made a mistake.

[@loveisblindness1352]

This was a great podcast, well done Tom B! It takes a lot to do something you're not too comfortable with but you smashed it. I always love your analysis because you are so knowledgeable and evaluate both sides and come to the great consensus. About the 3 tyre rule, I LOVE that idea and it should happen. I also think that the teams should be given a 5 race 1 stop joker, so for 5 races during the year you have to do a 1 stop. No one knows when a team will use them so it just gives an extra bit of strategy and spice to a race. Tommo is a really good addition and ye work well together. Looking forward to the next one!

[@interista9326]

Is it possible to have all 3 of you guys on the podcast full time???🤞🏼

[@jayy3757]

Also, the reason the Q2 tyre rule exists is to make it easier for Pirelli. Teams who don't make it to Q3 have 1 extra tyre regardless, but those who do make it to Q3 are given that extra tyre which they start on by Pirelli as they use 1-2 extra tyres than others in Q3. If you remove that rule, Pirelli will have to make like 30 more tyres, 3 compounds for 10 drivers to give them an option. Pirelli last year was already complaining bout too many tyres, i don't see them throwing this rule away anytime soon.

[@ad2309]

1) Bring one dry tire type per race and make sure it can't go more than 50% before loosing grip (but not blowing up), Or.... 2) Mandate use of all three tire types per race (but no Q2 tire choice options). Cheers!

[@jonasjaagur9635]

This was a good podcast. Of course you don't have the presentation skill and flair of Matt, but you have your own charisma and you both are very knowledgable and passionate about racing. I really enjoyed it!

[@marcus6291]

I'd love to see hulk back in a full time seat. I think he's probably one of the top 10 drivers on the grid.

[@MrStefanops]

The thing about Mercedes is that they’ll probably bounce back stronger than ever. They seem to come back very strong after each defeat. The fact that they got P2 and P3, after winning and getting pole on every race so far, yet are still desperate to get better shows how determined they are to win.

[@SamuelSantos_]

Exactly, they’re an extremely well-oiled team. They still won in 17-18 when Ferrari caught up and pulled away in 2019 with the small aero rule changes.

[@jamalthasim9041]

The problem with the tyres right now are that Pirelli chose the middle ground where the teams can make a 1 stop by managing the tyres, whereas Pirelli claimed it was making team push for longer. They need to go to either extreme where teams basically have to do at least 2 stops so they will push more

[@macstmanj3]

I am a huge Max fan, but when he overtook Nico at the start I was so upset but then when I realized Max could beat the Mercedes I was so excited but was sad for Nico

[@Miragexe]

I mean Hulk was never going to beat Max

[@stayfrost04]

My own prediction for Spain: Russel Q3 and Double Podium for Redbull.

[@piotrgancewski6736]

I Hope so

[@peterfighter]

My own prediction for Spain: Get in there Lewis, Max calling someone blind, Alfa Romeo 19-20, Russell bottling the start as usual, Albon reducing the gap after poor qualifying

[@HarrieWorst]

@@peterfighter I sadly have to agree, though Verstappen probably have yet another race in no man's land like the first race at Silverstone not have to call someone blind. Unless Mercedes screws up somewhere.

[@olavmulder1514]

@@HarrieWorst Max zal stroll wel weer blind noemen in fp3😂

[@built2jzlexus496]

I like unpredictability but lots of ppl are only saying tires because it handicaps Mercedes.

[@NotSosigRamsey]

Drinking game! Take a shot every time Tommo says "like"

[@Muskelbiber007]

Has been my first Podcast on WTF1 and i felt entertained. So great job, even when you had to jump in as a subtitute. Just my few coins about tire degredation. It's not just the amount of pit stops, you have to make 2 stops viable again, and i don't see it coming with only tire degredation. Bring back refueling maybe, with the technic we got nowadays, it should be doable to make refueling safe, without creating scenes, where boxes lit up, during refuel. E.g.: Ferrari seems to be doing a lot better with a light car. So why not give the teams the option again, to balance their cars with refueling? When you're only going with tire degredation, evertyhing will be as it is. There'll be "the best" strategy at one point and every team will do this one strategy. As you said, F1 drivers were "crying" about the tires not lasting and they couldn't race flat out. Pirelli then made them more durable. But what the drivers and teams made out of it was managing the tires so hard, so that they only need to stop once....So why is nobody crying out loud now, that they can't race flat out? Suddenly no Driver cares about flat out racing anymore, since the new benchmark for a good driver is, being a good tire manager. I get the feeling that we're not watching drivers anymore, but seeing the best managers during race. And there's way too many influence from the outside. How comes, a driver has to ask for more power? Why is Max race mechanic telling him, to not attack mercedes, because they need to look after their tires.....?These are the things, which are going wrong. We need to bring back the racing to the drivers. So less influence from mechanics, less sensors or information from it just getting handed to the driver after race. Let the drivers go, feel the car and tell the mechanics how it is. Not the other way around. So in Summary: - More unpredictability with tire degredation and refueling. Giving teams more options for strategies, so that 2 stops or more become more viable. - Bring back the race to the drivers. Let the driver manage his power distribution etc. When he's overdoing it, his engine will degrade more, resulting in swapping out the engine early, getting penalties for changing etc. So the grid will be mixed more. I don't want to hear a race mechanic/team decide, how fast the driver is allowed to drive. That should be the driver's choice. Sensors etc. can stay, so that the driver can learn, where he ovderdid it maye, but let him get this information after the race. Sry for my english, it's not my first language.

[@GuacJuan]

Eyyyyy my boy tommo on the WTF1 channel. Big leagues lad

[@elaldo2382]

Glad you mentioned the great racing in 2011 Tommy. So many people remember it as a boring season as Sebastian wrapped it up quickly, but the races themselves were great!

[@79E13]

should have Tommo here every podcast, absolute baller of an F1 fan 👌

[@g.g.baxter4868]

Also if you want to mix the grid up, instead of reverse grids. You have 3 tyre compounds and 3 qually sessions. What every tyre you make it through a session on, gets removed from your allocation for the remain sessions

[@simont1299]

@TommyWTF1 nailed in with using all three compounds. I have said it for a long time this is what should happen. I am sure there will still be races where everyone does the same thing but I think it would help the variety.

[@nosebleedpuddle]

A question, even if tyre compounds get softer (which I'm all for) Do we think that Merc could compensate easily for this and resume dominance? It also brings into question the DAS system, which obviously is to help warm up the tyres BUT also decrease the tow and help cooling on the straights? Given that Silverstone has a fair few straights you would have thought that they would have been able to keep it under control. Maybe I'm reading too much into tyre temperatures relating to degradation but it kinda leads me to believe that there's more to this system than we believe.

[@nikhil9172]

Honestly I like the q2 rule, you shouldn't be able to run any strategy you like and still make it in to q3. If you run a different tyre you need to have the pace to make it to q3 not just use the softest tyre and start on the hard anyway. Softer tyres for each race is the solution and not changing quali imo.

[@Ancovg]

Remove 1 compound of tyres (just two sliks at a race). Remove Q2 mandatory tyre start. Bring harder tyres instead of softer but make them lose 10 seconds a lap once they are done (but don't explode). Remove mandatory use of both tyres in the race. Extend the race by 50 kilometers (355 km race) and longer then two hours.

[@jayy3757]

Imo they should make it a compulsory 2 stop, with or without the degrading tyres, because teams will then push all the way and not just sit back because they want to conserve tyres

[@lakshvijayvargiya9511]

11:30 to 14:20 That is one of the best ideas ive ever heard abt making f1 better without changing the cars themselves

[@fejic]

Omg, my boy Tommo F1 on the podcast!!! I remember subscribing to his channel when he had like 5k subscribers

[@C3bby]

Just imagine Hamilton falling out of the points at the brittish GP. Verstappen would have gotten 26pts (84total) and hamilton would now only have 82pts in total

[@astroknight5]

That would be upto luck. But what was in Red Bull's hands was Austria. He could have won there.

[@lewisjh8962]

Max being 30 points behind is pretty fair, he got unlucky in Austria. But he binned it in the out lap at Hungary & he dodged a bullet there with his mechanics being the best on the grid. You could argue that he got unlucky not to win the first silverstone race but it’s more Hamilton & especially Bottas being unlucky.

[@mpvip678]

Bottas unlucky yes, Hamilton unlucky no

[@ahlciks17]

Time stamps please

[@icourant]

If Max was not there we would have 3 year of racing that would have been so boring. Max is the spice in the soup, the pepper in the curry or the turbo on my car. So happy he is there and he does his own thing!

[@SriyanGaming]

I don’t really understand how exactly you can just get rid of the q2 rule. Let’s say Red Bull wants to put on a different tire on Max’s car to that of Lewis, since Lewis prolly qualified ahead of max. But since there’s no q2 rule, how will the team be able to? Would they go to the grid with all the tires, see what tires Lewis is putting on, and then put on a different set? Can’t Mercedes just like bluff their tires and then switch back to a different compound? It all seems a bit awkward to me. The q2 rules allows teams to make a decision as a driver is completing a lap, ensuring enough time and certainty that the team is running that tire for the start of the race.

[@ap_moneykris6693]

Tommof1 is a amazing super sub podcaster. Plus he’s a awesome youtuber

[@Alexander27463]

What i allways like about nico is whenever ziggo sport interviews he allways does it in Dutch. and his dutch really has less accent then some of the more southern provinces of the netherlands

[@mirthe1509]

*Offended brabant noises*

[@Alexander27463]

@@mirthe1509 well they need to learn how to speak their own damn language proberly.

[@mirthe1509]

Alexander how could u honestly believe one dialect the standard of a language and the others are somehow not valid lmao. The London accent isnt the only accent in the UK and scottish is not “wrong” english its just different. Grow past ur ignorance

[@deltasupreme9139]

@@mirthe1509 True, the entirety of the Netherlands pronounces the Dutch language wrong, not just one part

[@chriseaston233]

i liked how Merc said to Bottas you can race but leave Lewis space knowing Lewis was just going to pass him down the straight

[@king-breezy7king-breezy797]

Bottas couldnt do anything, so why risk his tyres. Funny they said longer race and ham is behind max and then what hams tyres would be dead, so again no racing for the Win.

[@sreeganeshmr3773]

Even though we wondered when Max became second in drivers title, mathematically Bottas had 0 points(British GP), 2nd(Styria) and 1st(Austria) like Max (Austria, British and Anniversary).

[@julian.morgan]

Re Tyres - Yes to removing the Q2 rule but not so sure about the mandatory two stops and using all three tyres. While I agree it would be an entertaining spectacle and therefore good for F1, I'm also pretty sure that the general public just doesn't get why tyres have to be changed at all within a single race distance, which doesn't exactly help the broad perception that F1 is massively wasteful. I'm not saying that perception is valid, but I do think F1 could do a hell of a lot more to help create a better impression. So here's a crazy idea: What if the quickest way to full distance was not to stop? i.e. to use one well managed, fairly hard tyre with low degradation? A balance between maximum grip and minimal degradation. Also a tyre that can cope with starting fuel loads, but have enough rubber for a push on lighter loads towards the end of the race? What if the delta to using two sets of slightly softer tyres was close to zero? In other words, using two sets over a race distance is about 30 seconds faster than using a single set so as to negate the pit stop time. What if there's then a third softer tyre which is again calibrated to be approx 60 seconds, or two pit stops, faster over full race distance? Then you throw away the rule book regarding what teams HAVE to do with tyres, as - without ANY artificial restrictions - the teams have to match strategy to the circuit, track conditions and fuel load. There will be LOTS of pit stops because teams will have to factor in the benefit of a harder tyre with a heavier car, versus softer tyres with lighter fuel loads - but stopping a racing car during a race should ALWAYS be a bad thing to be avoided if possible and not regulated to impose artificially. My point is that this would create an extremely technical challenge for the teams, and a fascinating series of evolving strategy calls for die hard F1 fans - whilst also being really easy for your average joe to grasp: They won because they didn't stop as many times as the other teams/cars! And at the same time, the general public could no longer accuse F1 of having regulations that force a form of "throwaway" mentality. My further point is that it's a sad reflection on RACING when we have to resort to obliging teams to pit so many times per race to make it entertaining, and lastly I'm pretty sure that many more tyre manufacturers would want to be involved if they could demonstrate that their tyre won races simply because of durability and grip - an easy straightforward marketing angle that directly parallels what road car users actually want from a tyre, especially compared to the current tortuous nonsense where, as has been frequently pointed out, Pirelli are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Sorry, this is already over long, but I really think F1 has to very closely examine ANY regulation that's just built on historical precedent, especially if the precedent was more a result of Bernie having a brainstorm than a more considered decision the teams arrived at collectively.

[@diegosza]

IMO, just get rid of hard tyres altogether (C1 and C2); make it almost impossible to finish a race with only one pit stop. But still have the possibility to happen something like what Leclerc did.

[@benhardcastle2305]

Without hard tyres verstappen wouldn’t have won

[@andrewcharlton4053]

On this first topic, my personal opinion is that its all about unpredictability. Mercedes didn't know if the tyre would be competitive and no one else thought the hards would work. If you had strategies where it was all about execution and the margins were very close, then there might be different strategies and one might be more optimal. It goes back to a point that's been made by WTF1 before which is that you need to restrict data to the teams more.

[@corcoj95]

3 word podcast review: fancy glasses only

[@katniptjw4758]

I think that the current Regs mean less racing on track so if we can have more strategy I think that’s great and will make races better. I think once 2022 rolls around we can focus less on strategy because the cars will (hopefully) be able to race better.

[@femiceo328]

Telling teams a compulsory 2 stop or using all the tyre compounds is like telling a football team to use all the substitutes. Getting rid of the q3 rules makes the fastest team ar disadvantage. So the quali 2 rule was there for a reason.

[@Janhouu]

This was the best podcast for a while

[@couldntthinkofaname3463]

I smiled so much when I heard tommy was on there

[@Elixir140]

The softer tyres just switched which car was best. The red bull was the clear best car in race pace last weekend. (Not in outright qualy pace though) I don't think the 2-stop strategies really made a difference to the leaders. Although it did matter for Leclerc etc.

[@keithcampbell2141]

I’m gonna disagree a bit about forcing teams to use three different tyre compounds during the race. This would dictate strategy too much for me, and would mean every driver in every race always is on a two stop strategy (maybe very occasional 3 stoppers depending on the tyres). It would kill off any potential for a one stop - and what we need is strategy variation rather than forcing everyone onto a two stopper. I do agree that in general one stoppers are less exciting, but I think slightly softer tyres which encourage two stoppers is a better way to introduce variability than mandating two stops. I do agree that the Q2 tyre rule needs to go. All it does is usually ensure the front runners start on the same tyre and strategies therefore converge to the same thing. Remove that and we get more races like this weekend where Redbull is on a different tyre than Mercedes - and similar differences for the rest of the top 10.

[@zachlee7945]

wtf, I wasn't paying attention at the start and I just see Tommo, I'm shook

[@ladavies8470]

Just worked out that the next 2 weekends without f1 scheduled is holding Indy 500 and 24 hours of le mans with no conflicts

[@wawingnut1]

The one issue (and it is a small one) is that if you force a 2 stopper you loose the type of drive that leclerc had on a crazy 1 stop to p4