2022 Hungarian GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

Hungary provided us with a crazy race with Max Verstappen winning from 10th on the grid and Lewis Hamilton taking P2 after starting 7th. We discuss their races as well as have another big old rant about Ferrari's strategy team.
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[@WTF1official]

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[@masattac]

Great podcast! I'd love to see a graphic for ABCDEF1 so I can kinda track through the video and see the results as your reveal them.

[@KingofFray]

Is Matt too heartbroken to continue?

[@Vincrand]

Don't have what it takes to become a commentator, but for sure I can improve the Maranello strategy team.

[@PozzaPizz]

Unrelated but I personally think Ferrari cheated and they HAVE to sandbag to avoid hefty fines. Anyone else?

[@vrccb]

No. I would be hopeless. I am so livid with Ferrari that is all I would be commentating on. No one else would get a look in.

[@christianknight7120]

We need a compilation of the emotional rollercoaster that Matt has gone through on this first half of the season

[@braindump1446]

Please don't, these videos have been indulging Matt way too much. It's a WTF1 Channel and not a MATTF1 channel.

[@D.H.1987]

Someone please make that compilation!!

[@hugonottmayr]

a rollercoaster contains ups and downs. At the moment leclercs season would have caused more of an emotional drop tower if we want to stay in the theme park analogy

[@patricktho6546]

I mean it is just the lifthill and then a drop, that goes on forever and deeper than you think is possible

[@Paul_C]

Hold on, do you really want Matt to have a nervous breakdown? If so, make that video. If not, maybe let him sit out Spa and not near a screen, phone, TV or computer.

[@Airwolf-lm9cm]

After the Binotto interview I really wanted to ask how much faster does Ferrari need to be to win a race? 1 second per lap? 2 or even 3? Mercedes is in fighting distance with a car that often was a second or more slower. Red Bull won this race from P10 with reliability issues and a spin. Ferrari built a car that can win a championship but it looks like they need one that can't loose it.

[@syndicategaming1668]

They need the Brazil 2021 Mercedes to win the title

[@Zenheizer]

very well put

[@camcambambam5128]

Ferrari was slower than Red Bull & Mercedes on softs, nobody but Max was going to win that race

[@suckieduckie]

@@camcambambam5128 Ferrair should have extended the medium stint... They did two ~20 lap stins on mediums... Max's last stint was more than 30 laps.

[@megandamaso8496]

@@camcambambam5128 That's not true, Leclerc was actually the fastest on the softs. He was on average a tenth up on Hamilton by the end. The times are public. Even at his slowest he was only a tenth down on Hamilton and 3 tenths up on Verstappen.

[@JobJDL]

Looking forward to Matt being in pain for 90 minutes again

[@SilverSp33d]

Actually 82 mins and 29 sec

[@Aaike1]

@@SilverSp33d 🤓

[@SilverSp33d]

@@Aaike1 it’s a joke bud. Chill

[@juice-ve6yz]

sameeeeeeee

[@camerona_]

@@Aaike1 ?

[@joyl7842]

I have a feeling Binotto has put so many warnings into Charles' head he's made Charles afraid of becoming the next Vettel or Prost and get fired for not doing exactly what Ferrari are telling him to do.

[@chefcc90]

Wouldn't be surprised. It seems Ferrari is ruining championship contenders these days due to their poor direction

[@gmarz9611]

To be honest Vettel said, Ferrari did that to him in his first season. Apparently he moved across thinking he could work with the team to make the car work for him. And they said, you are just a driver, we can get another one. This is Ferrari.

[@AKStovall]

@@gmarz9611 that is the mentality of a backmarker team, not a team that *should* be fighting for a Drivers and Constructors title... That is the wrong answer since there are only 20 seats in F1, and there are maybe 3 drivers that could fill that seat... oh and the other 2 are already driving for other teams as a primary driver... the 3rd is already in that seat.

[@gmarz9611]

@@AKStovall exactly, this in my opinion is what they are doing wrong. They are so caught up in being Ferrari, that they don't think about optimizing for their drivers. Even the best drivers, need support, and tweaking of things to support their style. Until they start working with their drivers, I think they will always fall short, even with a superior car.

[@richard35791]

Bruh, charles can take either checo or lewis seat, if he fed up with ferrari

[@soumyadeepdutta5280]

Max actually took the spin just to make sure that the Ferrari was actually on the hard tyre. Then he just went on his way.

[@Ceece20]

Spin to Win! Spin to Win!

[@kenwaller670]

He was lucky he didn't hit the wall spin to crash.....🤣

[@aventusV33]

@@kenwaller670 absolutely no luck in that tho. It was a slow spin. He wasn't gonna hit the wall. And he had the presence of mind and skill to do the 360, and hence lost minimal time

[@kenwaller670]

@@aventusV33well his legit 1st title is in the bag ferrari are terrible.....😢

[@aventusV33]

@@kenwaller670 he actually already has a fully legit world title if you don't know

[@nephlimjedi4741]

A ranking of all the races at the end of the season would be an amazing idea.

[@nibin_vjoseph]

The fact that Max, Lewis and George were laughing in the cool down room sums up what Ferrari is now. A joke. Literally a joke to everyone. And the fact that they are still giving excuses assures us that there are more Ferrari blunders coming our way.

[@joostprins3381]

Russell was only laughing because Lewis was laughing. He hates Max and shows it again and again.

[@oceelysium]

@@joostprins3381 Yeah the drivers all hate each other… stay away from commenting DTS fan

[@joostprins3381]

@@oceelysium I think you didn’t watch last year when he was a fuming at everything RB or Max did, he’s pathetic and can’t handle the pressure.

[@suckieduckie]

@@joostprins3381 based on what? Max and George have had very little interaction and they have never even encountered one another on track. At best George said some pro Merc things last season to kiss Toto's ass to finaly get that seat at Merc.

[@joostprins3381]

@@suckieduckie based on the fact how he reacted last year at the last race, he almost accused RB and Max of foul play, he is now doing it again and again being the president of the drivers association he needs to stay neutral, but he’s a Mercedes talking head.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

F1 needs a Gordon Ramsay for a commentator or Team Principal because it'd just be fun to see him losing it at Ferrari's blunders. Really though, god help these guys if midseason doesn't represent a turn around lol.

[@kevinhanandi]

Or guys like james hunt back in the day

[@Evan102030]

That's gold

[@willdreon9558]

🍞😵‍💫🍞 - Binotto idiot sandwich incoming.

[@davidclark8877]

Gordon Ramsay's Italian cousin?

[@FADHsquared]

"I figured the hards were gonna perform better than on the Alpines or Magnussen." Gordon: "say that again?"

[@thecasualgamer1457]

Thing about the Ferrari strategy: Sainz told the team straight out "I want to go long and take the softs". Just as he did in Monaco, he took control of his own strategy. Leclerc didn't then, he didn't now. Thus my unpopular opinion: Leclerc is not innocent, he has to take some responsibility. He has to demand from the team that some strategies are talked about with him IN the race, not just before.

[@kala5882]

I don't think it should be the driver's job to make their own strategy or fight the team on strategy. The driver should be able to trust the team on strategy. IIRC Leclerc told the team he was feeling good on his mediums and that's really all he ought need to do in my opinion.

[@thecasualgamer1457]

@@kala5882 Partly agree, the team strategists should be liable for strategy. But only the driver knows how it is to drive, and as we have seen with Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Raikkonen, Schumacher... and now Sainz. Good drivers takes responsibility of their own race when they strongly disagree with the teams failures. But I agree that the team should be able to do the right calls themselves, and they obviously are not that in Ferrari. And Sainz has done something about it with much better results than Leclerc when strategy has been part of the play. Don't have to, but it makes the able drivers on another level

[@hifriend7581]

Crofty going “sorry we’re British we’re gonna talk about there’s three brits in the top 5 right now” is such an eye roll moments

[@TheUSDebt]

I feel they forget that it’s not just Brits watching the broadcast

[@unthenner5519]

He also spoke for ages about the Euro football final because England were in it!!!

[@suckieduckie]

And people still try to deny there is some degree of British bias...

[@missbond7345]

@@suckieduckie I bought F1TV and thankfully dont have to listen to Crofty anymore!

[@amandafrancis1197]

He can talk about them. He just needs to talk about the others as well!

[@tomm1413]

It's all gonna be fine Matty! We're here to support you and accept you as a changed man since you joined the Max army! (Although I'm a McLaren fan and I'm in pain as well because Dani Ric isn't doing great...)

[@basementality4924]

Mclaren fucked Danny, they also could of saw how bad the hards were. He would of had some points and not get the penalty if they just put on another set of mediums.

[@epicshelterstudio2986]

Same here 😓

[@beausigmon2969]

That’s the biggest shock of the past couple years. I could have guessed ferrari would throw away a title but I never thought Danny ric would totally fall off the face of the earth at McLaren. Expected them to win a race or two

[@randar1969]

But that 2 car overtake he did reminded me Ric can be brilliant. Hopefully he finds his good form again.

[@arposkraft3616]

+

[@MolonyProductions]

I have always liked the Hungarian grand prix for as long as it's been on. It always throws up a surprise as it's really a street track characteristically speaking. Strategy plays a role always and weaker teams on strategy are highlighted. Good strategic teams, Mercedes and Red Bull tend to do well.

[@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168]

Max didn't do the lap to the grid on hard , he did it on the soft and they were strugling to warm'em up and decided to avoid the hard tyre

[@toodsf1]

Exactly correct

[@Fractured_Unity]

Exactly incorrect

[@toodsf1]

@@Fractured_Unity You are exactly incorrect

[@Fractured_Unity]

@@toodsf1 They went to grid on hards, not softs. They took them off after the reconnaissance lap

[@toodsf1]

@@Fractured_Unity No. They were planning to start the race on hards, but did the reconnaissance lap to the grid on softs. Christian Horner quote from Sky Sports: "Going to the grid both drivers felt they were struggling to generate temperature in the soft tyre, which is the tyre to get to the grid and we were due to start the race on the hard tyre." I don't know if this video is available to you but Red Bull strategy chief Hannah Schmitz says basically the same thing in the first 40 seconds kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqebd4ijmNyAgMU

[@Rinalicia]

If Max outscores Lec by 66 points in the next 3 races he gets crowned in Italy, just the idea that the title can be over so quickly is horrifying. I just want a good battle between the two

[@Painlesscoward]

Yeah that is if checo doesn't score for the next 3 races

[@TwoTwoFourSix]

@@Painlesscoward then it’ll be unofficial cos they won’t let checo win lmao

[@Caiphex]

@@TwoTwoFourSix oh they would absolutely let Checo win... An odd race here or there. You're right that no way they're having Max lose the WDC

[@Painlesscoward]

@@TwoTwoFourSix nah i mean if max out scorers charles by 66 points he also has to outscore checo by 71 in 3 races. That mean checo has to dnf twice and finish 9.

[@impossiblemission4ce]

@@Caiphex you're of the opinion Perez could win the championship if the team didn't favor the clearly better driver?

[@NGT4LIFE]

Lewis has got 25 more points in total than Russell in the last 5 races. Which is great considering some people were saying Lewis is being destroyed by Russell and should retire.

[@flyingphoenix113]

That said, a lot of those points have been incidental. Russell was on a sub-optimal strategy in Hungary to counter the Ferraris (Lewis was on the optimal strategy to counter the Red Bulls). George arguably had more pace in Austria as well. France was definitely all Lewis though. And, while Lewis has had some brilliant drives, George has had even higher peaks without Lewis' level of inconsistency (hence why he is also ahead in the standings).

[@jamiecook1522]

@@flyingphoenix113 at the start Russel got very lucky with safety cars like in Miami where lewis got bad luck

[@charles-antoinemartel-roy]

He had a tough time at the beginning of the year, but we also know that he was trying some wild setups when they didn't have the pace, just to see what if he could get a different results. But we can see on race pace that he's still a class above, just like Verstappen. He just has such a silky smooth touch with the tyres, it's pretty impressive. Don't know if you noticed, but when he pitted for softs, he was actually losing time to the guys ahead for like a lap and a half, and then started pumping in fastest laps after fastest laps. He really has figured out the best way to bring his tyres up to max performance and keep them there for longer than basically anyone, bar maybe Max.

[@suckieduckie]

@@jamiecook1522 Is having a poor qualifying and being in a worse position because of that really bad luck? Or just an extension of poor qualifying.

[@soundscape26]

A simple straight answer to the question in the thumbnail... yes, it's underrated. Funnily enough, for the past 10 seasons or so, the races at the Hungaroring have been much more interesting than the ones on the much beloved, (and rightly so) Spa.

[@flyingphoenix113]

Everybody calls it the "Monaco without walls," but the reality is that T1, T2, and T3 consistently provide some of the best battles in the sport. Yes, the rest of the circuit is difficult to overtake, but the same could be said for most circuits, frankly. And, the lap is so short that you're back to those overtaking zones again quite quickly. I also find it a lot less predictable than, say, the Red Bull Ring, where the only option is to take the inside line and force the other car wide (or, chance it around the outside of T3/4, which almost never works).

[@soundscape26]

@@flyingphoenix113 I think that "Monaco without walls" nickname was given before the 2003 changes to the track. Before that turn 1 basically mirrored turn 14 (the last one) and the pit straight was shorter by 200 or so meters... it made overtaking a real pain. Nowadays Monaco could only hope to have a similar sector to Hungaroring's 1st one.

[@matt_dobson0614]

You know what? You're dead right. As much as I love Spa and cannot accept that it might drop off the calendar, the track is mostly a test of car performance and it's hard for a driver to make a difference. The last great race at Spa was probably 2017. In that time Hungary has had 2019, 2021 and 2022 as great races.

[@soundscape26]

@@matt_dobson0614 Spa has 2 obvious advantages over Hungaroring; it seems like a much more enjoyable circuit to drive around and of course the scenery is quite spectacular... but for one reason or another it has failed to deliver really entertaining races for the past few seasons. Maybe in a few weeks time... Needless to say it should remain in the calendar.

[@matt_dobson0614]

@@soundscape26 Like I said, I think it's down to the characteristics of the track that don't really allow a driver to "outperform" the car. If the fastest car is at the front, it's unlikely that someone's gonna be able to get past.

[@afradhahamed5181]

For a team that has ruthlessly disposed of drivers, team bosses, technical staff. They are quite gentle with their strategy crew, who has been headed by the same person since 2015, who had made so many errors and cost the team so many wins.

[@DirkFedermann]

with the whole Ferrari debacle, it reminds me of the scene in Rush, just slightly altered. "The Strategy is full of s***" "You can't say that... it is a Ferrari!" 🤣

[@daviddikkers3671]

I was looking for someone else to say it, first thing that came to mind when they were talking about that Ferrari is bigger then the drivers

[@AKStovall]

Ferrari will basically take your car back, even though you've bought and paid for it, if you make them look bad in any way. they are literally so full of themselves that they think they're bigger than everything.

[@nagenbn3197]

Christian to Mattia:” I am planning to go for extended holiday with family over summer break . Can you please cover for me at Spa ?” Mattia : “Don’t worry. We have plan V and plan P in place to get RedBull 1-2” Christian : “ Thank you mate. You are always dependable “

[@noodle7443]

Perez going from 11th to 5th: C Leclerc going from 3rd to 6th ending the race behind perez: A Wha?

[@MikeD-ej2ho]

It's not just about where they finish, it's about how they performed in the race. Leclerc could've won if it wasn't for Ferrari Strat. If they don't get over this "you're lucky to be driving a Ferrari" mentality they will never win because there won't be any synergy.

[@Querientje]

@@MikeD-ej2ho leclerc dint preform see the driver has final say sainz did say he didnt want the hard tyres while leclerc let himself bring to the slaughter like a little lamb

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

Same with stroll he was the hole race infront of Vettel got spun lost like 10 sec and his soft tyres where obviously destroyed and still just finished 5 sec behind Vettel.....out qualified him anf would have had p9 if not p8 without ric crashing him but they completely ignore that......

[@marianalv65]

Also, if not for the VSC, Checo probably would have passed Sainz

[@bacunnnn]

Don't understand how Matt has the motivation to keep doing these podcasts 😅

[@devashishrakshit1]

💰 🤑 💸

[@gomguppie2]

14:05 Sainz was telling Ferrari for softs, he had to go against strategy again.. Ferrari feels so incompetent

[@joostprins3381]

But they already fucked up by making the first stint to short.

[@TheSnakerunner]

Really? B for Vettel? He started 18th and without the VSC would have finished P9. In an Aston Martin! What more could he have done? For me this is an A*-performance.

[@peeturpain9379]

He only finished ahead of stroll because ricciardo punted him. If anything stroll deserves a better grade than vettel.

[@Procrastinatingtiger]

@@peeturpain9379 He started 3/4 places higher than Vettel, why should he get a better grade just because you think he would've finished 1 place higher.

[@peeturpain9379]

@@Procrastinatingtiger all the more reason he should get a better grade because he even outqualified him. And the AM is the 6th best car in race pace right now so ofcourse he wouldve finished behind the alpines and norris. The fact that he got punted by ricciardo and stlll finished very close to vettel shows he had a much better race.

[@bhavyamgor3022]

It's the same for many yrs now...... THEY HATE HIM WHATEVER HE DOES

[@ryanfleming1040]

What do you think stroll deserves?

[@sergio.h1985]

I got my friend interested in F1 at the start of 2022 after he heard me rave about the 2021. Even he, a man who has never seen F1 races before, and after only half a season, when Leclerc put the Hard tyres on he looked at me and said: "Hard? That's not right!! He's gonna lose the race". And this is someone who has been watching for only 5 months...

[@orlandobuurveld2546]

Like what Matt said, Max is doing things more in a Hamilton kinda way. It seems that Max unintentionally learned a lot from Lewis last year

[@Jay-qm8cx]

If you want to learn to paint, go straight to the artist. If anyone in the world knows how to maintain a 22 race title fight, it’s Lewis Hamilton

[@johanfeenstra8778]

Max did not learn from Hamilton or from last year. It is just how you win a championchip when you don`t have to be aggressive. Last year he was aggressive and Hamilton lost a lot of points because Max was fighting that way. Every year is different.

[@jacko5727]

​@@johanfeenstra8778 Second that statement. Hamilton in his years didn't have to be aggressive when his car was a second quicker. Verst. car may not be the quickest this year by that margin but he's being gifted it from Ferrari. Just has to drive a smart and mature race, which he was last year apart from arguable the last few races.

[@ausriusdidziokas6771]

@@johanfeenstra8778 Hamilton didn’t lose a lot, just some. Max was aggressive and he lost points against Hamilton in British Grand Prix . Monza is another example, both taking each other out there

[@johanfeenstra8778]

@@ausriusdidziokas6771 Sorry, the rest of the world saw something els in Silverstone by the way Hamilton get a 10 sec penalty. In Monza Max was aggressive and get a penalty. And don`t forget that all off Britain was complaining about Max his driving style, he was to aggressive. It was not because Hamilton was winning no he was losing and had trouble with Max his style.

[@TheHidalgo99]

21:45 corret me if I'm wrong but he did do the lap to the grid on the softs and was struggling tremendously at getting temperature and grip into them. RB's conclusion was well if he has poor grip on the softs in these conditions, the hards must be a total disaster let's not take them.

[@MikeD-ej2ho]

correct.

[@squeakybunny2776]

Sort of, it was still max and checo raising the alarm and saying they should start on softs not red bull initially .

[@joostprins3381]

Yeah, used softs.

[@Franky46Boy]

Correct!

[@SoapboxRacer]

Max is clearly going to win the championship as he has support of two teams 😜

[@Appetite4Rose]

Three with Mercedes slotting themselves in between Max and the Ferrari’s, for now at least, taking points off of Leclerc

[@malnfc8565]

@@Appetite4Rose at this rate merc will take 2nd in constructors

[@gertmolder791]

the hungarian race showed how good f1 could be if there are more than 2 teams in contention . 3-4 would be best actually.

[@Chriscross257.]

Yeah 2010 season was wild

[@epr1]

And then there’s Katy who didn’t like the race. I had to skip her commentary

[@lucadiofortuin6993]

Being a Mercedes fan I thought i was gonna have a tough season😂

[@sj-qn4uy]

martin brundle called them "concrete tyres" lol

[@EpicToastie]

Btw I must say, the commentary on f1tv this year is just getting better and better. They actually have 3 commentators solely focused on the action. They always have Jolyon Palmer there too which is good as he's a recent F1 driver and really knows his stuff.

[@natetran]

Katy needs some new glasses…for Hungary, this was an epic race….

[@tsjawesome6289]

My three word race review was going to be “underrated af” in regard to the Hungaroring, as it is my favourite track and usually produces good races, so glad to see a similar question on the thumbnail

[@djdsf]

Don't forget also that boxing Sainz was also their way of not issuing team orders. Instead of boxing him in his medium compound window, they pulled him in on the same window as the softs and literally 1 lap after GR. I guess they figured they could keep GR covered, but could have used the info from Charles driving longer to see that the mediums we're good for long stints.

[@RoysIdea]

And made sure that Carlos had to wait an extra two seconds, to make sure that Charles would end up in front of Carlos

[@fodiographer]

Max outlap after the second pitstop was 1:39:455 and Leclerc's outlap after the second pitstop when he was on the hards was 1:45:325 .. almost 6 seconds difference. That sums it up pretty well!

[@Timeforspas12]

36:38 It's more that Lewis always had that toxic positivity in his posts and his interviews. He's always trying to cheer everyone up at the factory, at the garage, that's a statement some people from the Mercedes team keep repeating. Even when things doesn't go his way he somehow keeps repeating the worlds "let's keep pushing", that tells a lot of his power of will and character. In comparison, Wolf is like a dad for his drivers, Binotto in the other hand, treats his drivers like step-kids from a divorce.

[@101cheekie]

WTF is toxic positivity ?

[@Timeforspas12]

@@101cheekie Being obnoxiously positive, all the time.. For some people is annoying.

[@101cheekie]

@@Timeforspas12 I fully agree with the "annoying " part ie; ty from AFTV but toxic? That does not make sense to me!

[@matt_dobson0614]

I'm pretty sure I said something similar after last year's race, the Hungaroring is a very solid track. Turns 1-4 allow for some of the best racing of the year, simply because it's hard to pass and slam-dunk DRS moves aren't really possible. Yes the rest of the lap is follow the leader, but it's a short lap so you don't have to wait too long for the next opportunity. Over the past 10 years I would say it has been one of the more consistent tracks for providing a good race.

[@Koziolrh]

Regarding commentary: in my opinion they cracked the code on the international feed on F1TV pro. We have Collins (engineer), Palmer (driver) and Gaymore/Edwards (play by play). It's mostly great, Palmer is a star and you get a complete outlook of the race with proper excitement mixed in. Not to mention additional split screens and stuff.

[@burgerwithcheese]

Agreed! Palmer is so smart in his way of explaining and knowing the rulebook. A few months ago I decided to watch with the f1 tv commentary instead of skysports. I will never go back!

[@unthenner5519]

Completely agree! I signed up to F1TV halfway through this race in fact because I couldn't stand the Sky commentary anymore. Best decision of my life! F1TV commentators actually talk about what's happening ON THE SCREEN too, whereas Croft just talks about obscure stats and anything other than the race, even at the race start!? It's such a contrast. F1TV is amazing.

[@Koziolrh]

@@unthenner5519 yeah it's day and night. They have some stuff to iron out but they're getting there. And Crofty is so messy recently i can't stand the main feed anymore even though I like Brundle a lot.

[@koalatea2367]

When the commentary said he is sliding around on cement tires, I lost it

[@suckieduckie]

Katy with one of the fastest bad takes on the podcast ever. Alonso only going only for money? Really? Alpine hasn't really shown any signs of growth while Lawrence Stroll has shown plenty of willingness to throw money at the team and even poaching good engineers from RB and Mercedes for stupid amounts of cash. Alpine was only willing to give him one year contract while Aston is willing to do more and on top of that, did you see Ocon blocking Alonso and letting Hamilton pass and then he did the same damn thing with Ricciardo. With Stroll as a teammate he doesn't have to deal with that.

[@Noohee]

Ferrari as a team should learn from Charles about owning mistakes.

[@vrccb]

Absolutely!

[@abhishekab1]

Amazing time to be a Max Fan, to see your man - Start 10th, do a donut mid race, still handily beat them all, without help from Rain, Safety Car or Red flag.

[@thomasriishojgaard5677]

only help he got was ferrari poor strategy lmao

[@abhishekab1]

@@thomasriishojgaard5677 Lol true. I left that one out, as its so obvious.

[@harryfalm3118]

@brotinger_1 Name me one race which red bull won where red bull was anyway near the Dominance of Mercedes tu silly donut. Ps : France and Spain don't count cause of realibilty issues for leclerc and a driver error by leclerc 🤣🤣.

[@soundscape26]

@brotinger_1 Every F1 fan hates dominance except when it's their favourite team and/or driving doing it.

[@RJ-lh8vm]

@brotinger_1 RedBull do not have a car dominance this season though, Ferrari is at the same level. Now, while I understand what you mean, is different from Merc dominance, where no other car could match them. We know Ferrari can match Redbull, they just need a whole new team behind the drivers. They also need to put emotion aside and fully back Leclerc as #1. RB and MB clearly have their driver priority sorted.

[@BikersGrove]

That Jingle actually gave me goosebumps, well done Arjen! Hope it'll return

[@gpaje]

Red Bull's Power Unit that was 3 laps from failing was their Number 2 PU, which was used in qualifying and lost power. They made a minor fix and were originally going to use it in the race, but luckily decided to change it to PU 3 just in case. The new PU used in the race was fine.

[@31Blaize]

Chainbear did a great parody of a post-race debrief last week. I feel it applies this week as well 🤣

[@23elbo]

Jep, waiting for it😂

[@uri1197]

How the hell did katy say that it was a boring race?? Top 3 of the season for sure

[@Ericga9]

Some clarification on the 3 laps to terminal failure, that wasnt the new PU they were talking about, they were referring to the PU that failed in quali.

[@nupaulmiller6412]

This is so well done, great job guys

[@colbrash7148]

Ferrari's biggest problem is they always try to counter the strategy of their opponents (Russel at the start of the Hungarian GP, later on Max with mediums) instead of simply doing their own race and react if the circumstances dramatically change. This is also the reason why Ferrari has Plan A to Plan F or whatever, because if for example RedBull pits for softs instead of mediums Ferrari changes their race plan. This is why we constantly here a Ferrari radio where LeClerc or Sainz are asked what they think of plan x. Ferrari has no real race plan their race plan depends on their opponents and this is the reason why they mess up all the time, because you simply cannot react to everything what happens in a race. There is always some luck invovled in winning a Grand Prix, but Ferrari tries to ignore this fact. First of all Russel was their biggest opponent to win the Hungarian GP so they countered the softs, during the race Ferrari realised Max has a real chance for the victory and adjusted their previous strategy and tried to counter Max, but their first strategy (lets call it Plan A) is in conflict with a strategy to counter Max. After that they realized this is not working and again adjusted their strategy and went on the softs, but at this point they have already lost the GP. So the combination of both strategies and switching between them resulted in the worst possible race strategy for Ferrari.

[@MarioRossi-nd3vw]

Couldn't have said it better.

[@MLK_Sold_Black_america_out]

Ferrari should be a drinks manufacturer because they have a good ability to keep bottling chances to win. They might sell more of that than their cars,who knows 🤣☠️

[@Roxas-ph3te]

They already are. Didn't you see the champagne bottles on the podium? 😂

[@pianissimo7121]

Bruh, you destroyed the team harder than the Ferrari Strategists!

[@MLK_Sold_Black_america_out]

@@Roxas-ph3te nah I need to go back and look

[@domieszter]

they already provide the champagne:-)

[@avisscher2352]

@@Roxas-ph3te they didn't. firstly this ferrari brand is a wine producer from the trentino region in italy. not the car manufacturer. secondly, it is a wine (chardonay) from Italy and not champagne (may only be called champagne from a specific region in France) so you are wrong there too.

[@gordonfan291]

man coming to this after everything with the Piastri drama and hearing Katy go "I want a break" and "I need some time off"

[@joyl7842]

56:08 I know what you're trying to say, but ice-skates are actually very grippy on ice, much more grippy than tyres are on a racetrack.

[@Marcushalberstram749]

honestly, the reason why red bull are such masters of strategy is that they are adaptable and recognise the limitations in models and simulations. both red bull and ferrari's simulations showed that the hard tyre was a good race tyre - evidenced by the fact that they put max and checo on the hard tyre at the start. but when both drivers said that the tyre took a long time to warm up, they swapped for softs, demonstrating the adaptability when presented with evidence contrary to their data. this is unlike ferrari, who insisted that their simulations on the hard tyre would mean it would come up to temperature in time when they had real time evidence in alpine that it would not.

[@MikeD-ej2ho]

They also have a culture which doesn't allow drivers to question them. They should be happy to just be driving for Ferrari and that's the key difference. Being led by a leader who cares about their drivers vs a leader who cares about the way they look to the world.

[@justice4g]

I'll have to cover Dan for you since you didn't pay attention and are just going by results. He was 100ms off Lando in Q1 and Q2 but went slower in Q3 for some reason, he was doing ok in the race but lost about 6 seconds due to switching off the softs a few laps late, on to mediums and he was 8th behind Lando, 15 seconds behind which he maintained for a while, he knew the hards were rubbish so suggested they stay on mediums longer and finish on soft but the team decided to switch him to hards causing him to hit stroll as he had no grip and he fell back after that with the penalty costing another 2 places. Not brilliant but potential was there to come 8-10 if not for the strategy.

[@christophhinterleitner5531]

Thank you. He got no temperature in the tyre because he got overtaken by all the soft runners and then had to slow down due to blue flags. Lando could make it work because he was in no-man's-land and didn't have to slow down for blue flags

[@justice4g]

@@christophhinterleitner5531 yeah Dan's engineer said something about being ok for Lando but if you watch the timelapse he dropped off a lot on hards from the guys ahead but with his buffer and Alpines on hard behind it didn't seem so bad.

[@suckieduckie]

@@justice4g Sort of true but not quite in my opinion. He was very lucky that Ocon decided to block his teammate instead of him. If not he would have lost tons of time behind the Alpines. He did good to get past them when he could, but that was a big cock up by Ocon in my opinion.

[@justice4g]

@@suckieduckie that was when Alpines were on hard and Dan was still on mediums, he would have got past easy enough without their help.

[@suckieduckie]

@@justice4g Yeah but he would have lost way more time than he did now.

[@fredericktennant9151]

I must admit I see a pattern, remember Vettel? he had several seasons where Ferrari did the same thing to him too, the car has a small operating window and if you take your eye off the ball for one second it will eat you and worst still the tacticians have no idea what they are doing to help the driver too. That Silverstone race where both drivers was on different plans and yet they did not swap the cars around (hell, they did not answer Leclerc's qustions over the radio). If Leclerc is still there for the following season I will be surprised.

[@powerofdreamx]

Up at 4AM to get that WTF1 podcast freshly posted? 100%!

[@tylersimmons6524]

What's lost in all of this is that McLaren put both cars on hards AFTER Ferrari! It ruined Danny's race and the only thing that kept it from ruining Lando is the Alpines also being on hards.

[@flu1984]

Best explanation about Ferrari strategy: There is a secret agreement between Ferrari and FIA. It is about the fuel system controversy in 2020. Ferrari agreed that they won't fight for the championship for 5 years.

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

I just think that they are a bit old school and dont belive overtaking to be that easy 2021 Leclerc wins that bec even being that slow dirty air would have killed max

[@DaniMacYo]

See Alonso was right he’s still very quick, he was quicker than anyone else in snagging a new deal as well as on track performances. He’s on form for sure. Bwoah!

[@KuroSamaMG]

I love how Matt's no longer a ferrari fanboy... But I hope we'll still get his fantastic reaction to every f*ck up they do hehe. Great rundown btw

[@Monty10a]

Everyone is talking about leclerc being shafted by ferrari but can we also talk about how they screwed carlos' race too. 2 bad pitstops that made him lose position with Charles and then with Lewis. And a horrible strategy making him pit extremely early with those mediums that basically ended his race.

[@Joe-po8rx]

Pitting Sainz off of Mediums at the same time as Max came off of Softs was bizarre

[@fraserbalasingam6008]

Matt Matt Matt at 15:01 you say "Perez wasn't very quick at the end of the race" yet finished 1.1 behind sainz who was on softs and gaining significantly. If the vsc did not happen, he would have got 4th.

[@suckieduckie]

and his teammate on the same strat got a comfortable P1. He was too slow.

[@DreamOfFlying]

@@suckieduckie They literally said it was a different strategy! If you heard the podcast you should know! 🤦‍♂️

[@suckieduckie]

@@DreamOfFlying They said he let Verstappen past because he was 'on a different strategy'. What they meant was, he pitted 3 laps or so earlier. The rest was all equal, Soft Medium Medium.

[@DreamOfFlying]

@@suckieduckie I know! It still makes a difference in F1

[@suckieduckie]

@@DreamOfFlying I'm banking on the fact that RB will consider a nice window of clean air and covering off any potential rivals when they choose the different strategies. Point is their strategy was similar enough to say that it might as well have been equal.

[@fabulouschild2005]

About time I watched a podcast. I haven't seen one since last year. I remember something like the Silverstone podcast last year Matt was like "this is the longest podcast we've ever done, an hour and a half!" And most of them since jave been just as long

[@keithrussellberondo760]

Oh my goodness i've been waiting for this podcast (and Matt's reaction)

[@face673]

What is Katy on because it just seems like Katy just likes carnage and because it didn't happen this year It was a boring race, because apparently Miami, Baku and France where better races. And prior to the 2021 race all of the Hungarian Grand Prix were bangers according to her. We had 3 teams battling for the victory this season for the 1st time how was that not exciting.

[@jacko5727]

Agreed. It may not have been the most explosive race as in action but IMO, it was the most interesting race of the year. Loved the strategic battles and seeing 6 cars at the front battle it out.

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

Watching say france look just way more interesting how they are on the limit while Hungary is literally just first sector and nothing else lol its like monaco you just wait until they all pit and drama comes up

[@suckieduckie]

@@jacko5727 S tier race this season along with Saudi and Silverstone or A tier along with Miami. Dunno why anyone thinks this race was bad.

[@KoSXxPotatisbarnetXD]

How is this a bad race for Katy lol it’s one of the best this season

[@TheUSDebt]

She sounds like a nascar fan that requires a wreck to be entertained

[@povertyvoyager]

Katy is no F1 expert, I’ve heard super stupid stuff from her more than once. I’m not a misogynistic person at all, but she is so not up to par with Matt and Tom

[@suckieduckie]

@@povertyvoyager Agreed. She has so many basic takes every podcast. It started this one with "Alonso only moving to Aston for money blabla". Multiple year contract vs one year... #1 driver status... More budget and a billionaire at the wheel willing to poach engineers from other teams... How the F is this a bad call? Also her simping for certain drivers just because... she likes them? She gives Checo, Carlos and Esteban so much credit where she is merciless to other drivers in similar situations.

[@00aPPa00]

Her takes are usually shit. I don't think I've heard something intelligent from her till now. Maybe her being an ocon fan has something to do with it 💀

[@wilseph1]

Happiness for Matty ends once the intro is complete. Then it's onto talking about Charles and Ferrari.

[@e.f7598]

Can't wait to watch this episode

[@Hazey652]

As expected rated Danny without taking into account how fucked over he got by mclarens 'strategy' hence why the fans gave him a C

[@smitla321]

Agree with the commentary. Wasn't good this weekend. Crofty with some horrendous shouts. The inters thing was just so odd. Confused Russell for Hamilton for a whole battle also. I do like Crofty though. His commentary on 5live back in the day was awesome.

[@joyl7842]

1:03:00 Hungarian GP isn't alone in this. My stepdad went to the Belgian GP in the '80's and he said it hasn't changed at all when we were watching it recently. It's such a mess, with the mud everywhere and news of traffic jams dozens of kilometers long.

[@mowangmo]

The only silver lining in a Ferrari stuff up is watching Matt’s reactions and the WTF1 podcast

[@OscarFinn]

The only hope for Ferrari at this stage is if Matt Gallagher gets a Charles Leclerc onesie for all the Twitch streams for the rest of the season

[@Garvm]

We talk a lot about the strategy with Leclerc, but also the strategy with Sainz was pretty bad. What is the point of starting with the mediums if you are going to react and pit just after the guys with soft tires? That made Sainz do 25 laps with the softs an the end of the race. And also they were 3.7 and 4.6 pit stops for Sainz.

[@hunter_t18]

I thought it was very obvious why they stopped sainz early… to swap the cars without having to actually say swap the cars. They could say to the media and to Carlos “oh we were just covering the undercut” when in reality they were manufacturing the swap. All the bottle leclerc’s race too lol

[@Lily1127channel]

Exactly. I bet they only told Sainz to box then in order to avoid team orders situation. It started to become uncomfortable that Leclerc was so close to him and seemed faster. That box call had nothing to do with strategy, and that tells a lot about Ferrari and their strategy... Carlos had to do a Soft stint longer than his first Medium stint, that's very far from optimal... Not to mention screw up one pitstop, and then screw up another because why not. It's Haas level (or worse), not championship contender level.

[@hunter_t18]

@@Lily1127channel yes, Ferrari had two advantages over the other contenders for the race win. Started on mediums which mean a longer first stint and (supposed to be) finish on softs which is a faster more overtaking capable lash stint. They ruined both of those advantages totally on their own.

[@Lily1127channel]

@@hunter_t18 And if they are still so scared of issuing team orders for Sainz, even after already doing it (however late) in Silverstone, that means they are completely incompetent in that regard too in the title fight. How on earth would they fight Max, who is 100% aided by RB and Perez, if they are so scared of team orders that they rather throw strategy out of the window just to avoid a team order situation. That is beyond ridiculous. Boxing Sainz so early could have made a bit sense in one case: if they split the strategies this way, pitting Sainz early and going for a quite long stint with Leclerc. But they pitted Leclerc almost immediately after Sainz too (despite the fact that he said the tyres are still okay), so the split strategy was absent too. Not to mention that they should have split strategies in the beginning in the first place, starting on soft and medium with the two drivers, like Mercedes did and always do. That's what you just have to do when you have 2 drivers in front against a team that has only one (Russel) there.

[@nickwardog8586]

The Hungarian Grand Prix was the one I was looking forward to the most because it's usually hard to pass. These cars seem like they can follow closer and figured that would make turn one a little more interesting it turned out turned two was the fun corner

[@hanshendriksen72]

Katy saying it was a boring race is almost as incomprehensible as Ferrari defending the hard tire.

[@juliai8258]

LOVE hearing Katy’s input, she makes this podcast so entertaining!!! Don’t stop with the hot takes!!

[@nannyoggsally]

Katie this was one of he best races of the year. 5 stars. Now France last week was shit, like 1 or 2 stars.

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

Not watching bec the track is pretty shit but the action was nice eith all the over and undercut

[@JaydonTobler]

A Russell-LeClerc Mercedes driver pairing… Matt don’t play with my heart!

[@mjthecasual1473]

I'm only watching this now, Got back into F1 a few months ago (After years), and am trying to catch up. Matts Rant at Ferrari ("Shut up Tommy" xD Was so heartfelt anger, I love it) was so entertaining, I had to go back and actually listen to every word xD

[@23elbo]

Katy is such a anti max bashgirl, tom talking about how max had a great race starting 10th to win the race, then katy starts to praise hamilton for his god tier drive, (sure was a great drive for lewis but max was on another level) than starts saying this was one of the most boring races yet this season...... What this race is top 2 top 3 atleast hands down

[@MikeD-ej2ho]

British Bias lol

[@testvoorupload]

I feel that LeClerc also has some of the blame though. Carlos is pushing back much more with these asinine Strat calls. LeClerc keeps going along with it. He is the team leader. He feels what is going on with the car. He should speak up

[@suckieduckie]

This, Leclerc should have known that when he's called in ~30 laps to go it's going to be hards. So just stay out and extend your stint till you can make it to the end on softs. Sainz is much more agressive than Leclerc when it comes to overruling the strategy.

[@Shambley1]

On one hand matt wants ferarri to win but on the other he's got to love the views every ferarri blunder brings in. If something bad happens with Ferrari I go back and watch the twitch stream and make sure I catch the podcast as soon as it comes out. I can't be the only one.

[@KnickNbock]

9:48 Chain Bain just did a video on this and Pirelli did a match the S/M/M to M/H as equivalent

[@cloudk2088]

I feel like Ferrari are ruined by their own ego, and more concerned with their legacy than actually winning.

[@Chyeahokay]

Katy is clueless, Hungary this year was amazing. Every stint had something going on, and with the chance of rain and the mistakes, and Lewis on sorts at the end

[@notre_damn]

You're awesome, Tommy!

[@101cheekie]

"Man's about to start watching cricket " line of the show! Lol

[@damsel5755]

Katie is crazy, that was one of the best races this season.

[@mk6alex]

you watched a different race lol

[@samuelp1227]

What was Katie thinking? That was a great race!

[@GloomGaiGar]

It's probably not very good for his health but an angry Matt is an entertaining Matt. That Windows joke got me good lol

[@louiegold1940]

The quote from Horner about Maxs engine was about the old one he used in quali, his new engine was fine

[@MikeD-ej2ho]

Ya I don't get how they misunderstood that.

[@joostprins3381]

Yep, they only had clutch problems.

[@Peanutbutt101]

Katie thinking this was a bottom 5 race of this year, I don't think I've heard a more stupid take this year 😅 there was literally 4/5 cars battling for the first place, it was very intense imo

[@ImRezqoo]

If this was Silverstone she would have said it was the best race of the year

[@00aPPa00]

Yeah katy with a shit take as usual.

[@gegna37]

Although I love the fact that top6 finished within 16 seconds of each other without a Safety Car, I absolutely hate that Leclerc easily lost over 30 seconds by pitting for those hards On pure race pace, I am fairly confident he would win by 10+ seconds

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

He would have not he was just 5-10 sec infront of Lewis and Max both where just way faster they where catching and would have gotten him if he stayed out for a soft at the end even sainz said it after the soft was terrible for Ferrari dont forget leclerc pitted 5 laps after lewis and couldnt even get 1 time the fastest lap with those softs.....they knew the setup was shit from the beginn

[@gegna37]

@@ehrlichgesagt863 you know what, that is a good point actually, but I think that even if he would stick to it and extended the medium stint and went to softs, he wouldnt have lost as much time as he did with this 'strategy' But you are right that overall it wouldnt be 30 seconds lost, he would fight either Max or Lewis too, maybe even lost to both, but I doubt he would miss the podium

[@ChristinaMaterna]

That jingle reminded me of DJ Visage Schumacher song in a very good way!

[@calebhernandez4233]

1:10 Lando was the only driver on hards that got them fired up. the race's vid said that too

[@singh5105]

Matt has moved to acceptance stage

[@ajaywarde4633]

Has Katie lost her mind? That was a great race!

[@jamithon4227]

The 12km or 3 laps to go wasn’t his new power unit, that was the estimated distance the old one would have went.