2022 Azerbaijan GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

It was more pain for Ferrari fans after a double DNF in Baku. We talk about what might have been, whether F1 in 2022 is delivering and if team's porpoising problems are self inflicted. Plus loads more in our race review podcast!
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[@kanan1361]

“WTF1 Podcast: Depression Edition.”🤣🤣🤣

[@jakesmiley1988]

I sincerely feel for Matt. It's how I felt earlier in the season with Max's two DNF's

[@Paul_C]

It's a sport! Why worry about going round and round in circles for some time and at some point there is a finish... some tears, some cheers.

[@Aemond2024]

Big head should stop whining

[@AZBCDE]

Why depressing, are you a Lewis fanboy crybaby

[@soundscape26]

@@AZBCDE Perhaps because Matt is a Charles/Ferrari fan? Just sayin...

[@DaveCompton5150]

That wasn't duct tape used to fix the rear wing, it is aviation/aerospace tape rated for over 220 mph. It is used all the time in NASCAR (and occasionally Indycar) to repair damage safely. The stuff costs several thousand dollars per roll. F1 wouldn't let a fix with standard duct tape stand.

[@TOBORtheMighty]

Seriously. If it can hold an LMP car together for 20+ hours then obviously it's good enough for at least a couple dozen laps. People are so silly sometimes.

[@falcovg2]

Yeah, like these guys have no idea what they're doing and have to do with some discount duct tape 🤣

[@acebk4293]

It’s the same tape they use on airplanes that people always video and say it’s “duct tape”. I hate when people do this. These tape are design for airplane surface which can travel up to 0.9 the speed of sound.

[@jan.lotvall]

Remember last season when Max drove with one of the side-skirts basically gone, remains taped together. Hungaroring? TAPE is allowed!

[@FlatBlack_240LSX]

Katie's "What, are they going to start banging things with hammers?" comment got a proper eyeroll from me haha

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

I'm surprised Matt showed up at all for this, really... That takes courage.

[@GloomGaiGar]

he's used to it lol

[@AA-ks7bo]

@@GloomGaiGar like every ferrari fan would

[@zhen86]

It is his job

[@aliu67]

@@zhen86 roy keane

[@deltasupreme9139]

The reason why McLaren's team orders are way less justified than Red Bull's is because a) They're not racing for a podium or a win b) They were on DIFFERENT. STRATEGIES. It makes no sense to have one hold up the other

[@squibbies7015]

@nameless What do you call Daniel being told to sit behind Lando at the start of race then when Daniel had more pace than him? Don't get me wrong I 100% agree that Daniel hasn't been performing this year but during the start of the race he had great pace and very likely could've fininshed in a higher postion than P8 if he wasn't told to stay behind Lando (not saying it's Lando's fault more that Mclaren strategy was appalling)

[@lukilladog]

team orders are never justified if you want to see racing drivers doing racing and pull ahead on the merit of their own effort and skills.

[@harryfalm3118]

@@squibbies7015 McLaren screwed Daniels race so badly. Lando acted like a brat in the team radio compounds matter.

[@hanstubben]

"And then Grace was born" best explanation ever for how we got in this situation.

[@erikhuisman2487]

Even though I know these come out on Tuesdays to KZbin I find myself checking on Monday throughout the day. It's become a staple of F1 weekend for me!

[@sunnybarua6028]

I thought i was the only one.......!!

[@danw9403]

It was out on Spotify yesterday!

[@strongbear88]

yeah it's out in audio form on mondays =)

[@myka4337]

@@strongbear88 I’m a visual guy :( even if my eyes only watch 25-50% of the episode. I just like having the option of seeing their faces.

[@726sparrow]

I did the same thing 😅

[@GloomGaiGar]

The last time people started saying the "championship is over", it went down to the last lap of the last race on equal points.

[@rez493]

The problem is currently we are talking about Ferrari instead of Mercedes and Leclerc instead of Hamilton

[@theglitch312]

@@rez493 It’s not like Leclerc hasn’t been carrying his weight… He’s been very, very good. Almost all of his deficit to Max are reliability and Ferrari related.

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

​@@theglitch312 not really i think we saw now in Canada, today quali and Imola that he isnt consistent enough for a titel fight

[@Drrolfski]

It would be really helpful if you put some markers in these podcasts (intro, each team member's 3-word race review, ABCDEF, predictions, etc)

[@justice4g]

it was quite revealing that Daniel had a decent race after they set the car up how he likes for a change rather than leaving it for him to adapt.

[@SuicidalLemonade]

"Hamilton looking like a 98 year old man getting out of a baaath tub" really got me.

[@RogerKeulen]

Still we rise

[@Xx-Zeppelin-xX]

It looks like Tommy is in 1080p, Katy is in 720p and Matt is in 360p...

[@oj4249]

McLaren screwing Ricciardo. They tell him to drive faster. Then they tell him to slow down for a Norris.

[@nerdculture6521]

Not really they order norris to hold position too

[@Loki-sk7bi]

I can’t help but think that the enthusiasm in the British media when Max is winning is almost exactly like when Vettel was winning with Red Bull. When Seb was winning, Webber was more liked, Alonso was more liked. When Max is winning, Perez is more liked, Leclerc is more liked. Anything but the winning driver is more worthy of media support. Funny that didn’t happen with Hamilton.

[@nightbird086]

When Max had 2 dnfs no body batted an eye, but know everyone is losing their minds.

[@chriscollins550]

Try looking at them drivers you mentioned and how they raced. Webber was a better person and cleaner driver.

[@harryfalm3118]

@@chriscollins550 Next joke please.

[@harryfalm3118]

@@nightbird086 A certain fanbase claimed it was karma🤣🤣.

[@squeakybunny2776]

@@chriscollins550 and how did the British media react to lewis tapping red bulls on the back tire and causing a crash in silverstone which the stewards deemed him faulty off? Did they bash Lewis like they do max? Or did they just shift blame and still pretend Lewis is the best?

[@gpaje]

Even though Max and Charles have equal DNFs, they aren't the same in terms of future impact. None of Max's failures were PU related, they were fuel related and the PUs weren't damaged. Where as Charles had direct PU failures and it means that he will have future grid spot penalties for PU allocation. His DNFs are going to ring out in future races.

[@suckieduckie]

They also arguably cost more points to begin with. Let's say a 2nd place in Baku and a first place in Spain. That's 7 more points lost compared to Max.

[@shehankv]

Leclerc gave his own three word race review - "it hurts again".

[@joostprins3381]

Hungary last year, after the bowling incident half of Max his car was duct tape.

[@mikahodt9488]

These Podcasts give me Happy vibes and are Helping me enjoying the day.👍

[@willamcars1]

I like how the camera quality moves from bad to crisp as we go across the screen.

[@mrc0a124]

I absolutely love these podcasts I use to just watch these ones but now I watch every podcast because I just love the vibes from you all. And this podcast made me laugh so much especially the abcdef1 parts and the savage moments 🤣

[@yolandamkwezalamba3302]

That is the best ABCDEF1 theme song/jingle we've heard so far...I'm sold personally.

[@myka4337]

Even if the the overtakes are on par with last year, the fact these cars can stay within a second or two of the car in front for nearly the entire race makes it so much more exciting.

[@EagleDriverVan]

I absolutely love your podcasts. My wife enjoys them as well and yet she’s not a huge F1 fan. The three of you are so open, honest, diverse in perspectives, and on. Your personalities mesh well and the product reflects that. Keep up the great work as I/we eagerly look forward to the next race and your accompanying podcasts. 👍🍻 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

[@paulnewman3587]

I love coming back and watching these during the break, reminds me of how crazy this season has been

[@N0BBYX]

Always love the podcast but this one in particular was a banger. Everyone was on great form

[@christinagrieser5664]

Thank god the podcast is on, thanks for getting me through the last hour of my work day ❤️

[@ashlerstanley2]

Without DNF's and winner takes fastest lap: 1. Bahrain : Max 18 - Charles 26 2. Saudi : Max 26 - Charles 18 3. Australia : Max 18 - Charles 26 4. Imola : Max 26 - Charles 8 5. Miami : Max 26 - Charles 18 6. Espana : Max 18 - Charles 26 7. Monaco : Max 15 - Charles 12 8. Baku : Max 26 - Charles 15 Max : 173 Charles : 149

[@mo215300]

Baku : Charles would have been 2nd I think he would have beaten checo so 152 total. Also Monaco he got screwed by team so in reality without dnf points lost due to strategy : 14 ( Monaco) points lost due to mistakes : 7 (imola) this explains the 21 point difference

[@Minifliek]

@@mo215300 100% agree i don't think theres anything between these teams or drivers.

[@dohtje5029]

Bahrein would probably be a Max win, if you look back he was trying to overtake and wouldn't have fallen a 3rd time for the 'break befor the drs detection zone' trick Charles used (just like in Saudi) but just after the 2nd try his car stopped.

[@mo215300]

@@dohtje5029 I don’t think so charles is really good at that circuit if max would have overtaken Charles would have overtaken back the key point :max has a world class team and reliable race trim car with a supportive 2nd driver Charles lacks all those things so unfortunately I feel it is extremely tough for Charles to win wdc this year

[@suckieduckie]

@@mo215300 The big problem for Leclerc in Baku would have been that contrary to RB, he did not have two sets of hards. That last stint on mediums would have been horrible.

[@jbb2026]

One thing they miss in the rules adjustment argument is that the FIA literally changed the rules entering 2020/21 to nurf Mercedes and other low-cars because they were too quick. They changed the rules primarily for 1 team

[@timeacott]

Spot on comment The FIA waited for several years before giving Redbull assistance to fight Merc, but it is very clear that this is what they did.

[@JonCannon]

I absolutely enjoyed the live race watch along, I think it's a contender for my favorite content on this channel, and I've been a follower from the beginning,

[@selder_7]

I think the FIA should set a maximum limit on bouncing to save the drivers from the teams. The teams are businesses who’s objective is performance, they will not sacrifice performance unless they are made too. This also then forces Mercedes to fix their car but not Red Bull because the Red Bull is fine already. With all the safety in these cars it is bizarre if the level of back pain Hamilton has is just fine, but Mercedes wont fix it unless they have to

[@Felyxx]

You know what I find extremely hypocritical? The fact that Red Bull are saying nah we don't need a solution for porpoising because that would affect our performance. That literally literally happened exactly to Mercedes at the beginning of 2021. Literally the regulations were changed and they affected Mercedes which actually gave RB a chance at the title. Without those regulation changes at floor level Mercedes would've won about 90% of the races same as they did boringly through 2014-2020. Why penalise Mercedes then and not penalise RB now? Porpoising in this case is not affecting only Mercedes, they are simply affected the most. And the fact of the matter is, a driver will always choose a faster car over they general health and safety. Picture this: if the regulations allowed a second turbo which gives them 50 more horsepower but the turbo must be mounted right next to the driver's ear and will make such a racket that it may deafen the driver over time. How many drivers will choose to have that turbo vs not having it?

[@pieterpeeters7504]

You are right about that both Leclerq and Verstappen both had 2 DNF's but Leclerq most likely is going to get grid penalties soon ( which is sad ) since several engineparts are close to the max number aloud per season. me too was hoping on lots of close racing between those 2 ( and the rest of grid too) over the whole 2022 season... let's see when the next 13 races will bring to us. Yes I am Dutch, and that makes me a bit biased perhaps.. but I really hope that we get more close fighting over the rest of the season form the whole grid. The cars can actually follow closer

[@derfetch]

thank you for providing the video in 2160p, with matty and katy both having 360p cameras ;) Other than that, as always a great episode, lovely to listen to you 3 and your opinions.

[@dohtje5029]

Yah I made a comment on this as well, it really is unwatchable especially on a TV, they have the elgato stuff, wich should have HD, so they just set it up terrible, especially compared to Tommy (wich I think is still only 720p, but alot better then the jagged edges and blocks)

[@derfetch]

@@dohtje5029 tbh i meant it more as a joke. i just have the video running on my 2nd monitor while doing work or other stuff on the main. i think 1080p cams should be standard but for a format like this it doesnt matter to much for me. when you watch it on a tv and actually want to watch it, thats gonna suck yeah... maybe it is also down to the internet connection or something idk

[@areebsiddiqui758]

@@dohtje5029 Its a podcast. What do you even want to watch? How does it make a difference if its 360p or 1080p or anything else. You're just staring at someone's face for an hour. Its audio based content, there's nothing to watch.

[@TheodoreAggelopoulos]

I'm pretty sure the rear wing of Yuki's Alpha Tauri wasn't patched with a simple duct tape, surely that was a special kind of tape.

[@flowmeful]

Aviation tape probably. They use it to cover seams on earoplane wings aswell

[@thebonesaw..4634]

@@flowmeful -- Doubtful. Considering that this isn't a common thing for them to do, it's unlikely they had aviation tape available. Having aviation tape, instead of garden-variety duct tape, would imply that they were ready for this contingency.

[@lufthan1608]

@@thebonesaw..4634 probably they were ready for that

[@squeakybunny2776]

@@thebonesaw..4634 F1 teams have all kinds of tapes available every weekend and use it all the time. Common duct tape is also way to "rough"/ non smooth. It is absolutely horrible stuff to fix up an areo dynamic surface.

[@thebonesaw..4634]

@@squeakybunny2776 -- Alright, fair point.

[@NitronF117]

I don’t think it would be difficult to implement a “bounce per min” rule. The drivers already wear in-ear accelerometers. If any driver experiences vertical oscillations above some threshold, for some pre-determined amount of time each lap, then that driver gets a time penalty. It could be entirely automated like the jump-start system.

[@menglei2527]

FYI, if there is someone who has been even more unfortunate than Charles, Guanyu is the man. 3 DNFs all technical problems in 4 races. Especially the engine failed right at the moment when he could contend for points like in Baku. The rookie is under torture. He gave out his best but his car not.

[@erikhuisman2487]

If you only look at the races where both Max and Charles finished the points would be Max - 90 and Charles - 56

[@hvr1874]

44:30 Think that is dangerous statement to make, off course Hamilton due to his age will show the effects and recover slowly. It does not mean long term irreversible damage isn't being done to the backs of the younger drivers like Russel. This argument has been made in the past in contact sports to shrug off injuries to necks, joints and head injuries leading players to retire early, suffer extreme detrimental effects in later life.

[@konigstiger3252]

But Merc can raise the ride hight

[@DS-md7mz]

@@konigstiger3252 Lewis even asked in FP... they said "NAHHH"

[@patricstandley]

Love the content #teamWTF! Regardless of your team, all F1 fans wanted to see how that would play out. Ferarri had the advantage on a 2 stop strat as they had an extra set of medium tires that RB did not. (RB had spare hard set).. Great analysis!

[@MarkusNuevo]

congratulations on 1 mil subs

[@selder_7]

After Monaco the chat was that Schumacher had to cut out these crashes, he did here. It cost a LOT of pace, but hopefully he can build up the pace again and keep the crashes away

[@davidcamel8310]

Love the dog, best part of the review Tommy!

[@gajananbehere7613]

Been waiting for this! ❤️

[@bsmjth]

I've only ever heard the audio version of this podcast, but Matt's face for the intro is exactly what I imagined

[@bobrick8176]

Loved the high and low letter banter lol 😂

[@Fear574]

The intro is great :)

[@jameschng9964]

What they could do is say that you can not a have a certain amount of G’s of porpoising so the teams are happy and it stops the health and safety issue’s and the teams have to lower the ride height. Love the channel pods. Thank you.

[@jslack6483]

The jingle in this podcast reminds me of the guitar progression on "Jessica" by the Allman Brothers Band (Top Gear theme)

[@awesomefacematt]

Tommo's Take on the porposing in perfect. Use a G force measurement tool in the cokpit. G forces is what will do the damage to the drivers so force some sort of penalty/ride hight if the g forces are too high. This way it's not about bouncing loads but bouncing dangerously.

[@As-qz5lr]

Great pod, love it

[@jdbb3gotskills]

Katy a savage to Matt “yes explain” without hesitation lol

[@folu12]

Instant LIKE for having the 3 dream team back .. hope you're all well rested 😀

[@eco_logic]

This has equalized the 2 DNF's Max had. Max still 30 points ahead

[@CTTubee]

You have to take the ferrari fuckups into account 😅

[@Pacify]

@@CTTubee No you don’t that’s their problem. Don’t make mistakes… that’s on the teams. Not reliability issues.

[@MistralValon]

@ScarAngusArobieke there was a second vsc

[@yuyy8565]

@ScarAngusArobieke leclerc was leading with superior tyre strategy, worst result could have been second behind max and instead he didn’t even finish. Two dnf from p1 are way worse than 2 dnf from p2, simple as that

[@ssifr3331]

@windfall You basically just prove OP's points.

[@WhiskyCanuck]

About being surprised about no safety cars: I don't remember the year, but it was probably the 3rd Baku race where there was huge anticipation about carnage & safety cars, etc, and there wasn't anything besides maybe a short VSC.

[@cali6u]

Many drivers have already come out against the bouncing/porposing issues experienced this weekend. It is not just a Mercedes issue even though they seem the most affected, it's affecting all the cars on track especially on the bumpy straight in Baku.

[@Matt231985uk]

Leclerc has never won a race in Grace’s lifetime 😂😂

[@Jay-qm8cx]

I already listened to this episode on Apple Podcasts, but I just came to see Matt’s face

[@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm]

Especially following some Tommy's savage comments. That guy really woke up on the wrong side of the bed today 😆

[@jamesmcmillan1809]

Hands down the best F1 podcast. I'm loving your content and last weekend's watchalongs were a great way to enjoy the grand prix. It was so good I muted the live commentary! I can't wait for the rest of the season.

[@yorkick19]

Really good takes on how you folks think about Toto and Mercedes. Wish the F1 media thats live in the paddock would put a bit more pressure and hard questions towards Toto for example, seems like they don't have the courage or will to do so.

[@SHADOWW18]

This porpoising issue. Hear me out We're talking about protecting the drivers from the teams. The teams want to run the cars low for lap time and introducing a raised minimum ride height reg isn't fair on the teams who've got their cars right. Solution, Why cant the FIA implement a reg where by the cars have a sensor fitted that measures the porpoising and all teams are not allowed to exceed a set porpoising threshold limit set by the FIA. This would protect the drivers from the teams and would be fair across the board as all teams must comply to the rules, it would only effect cars that need to have the issues solved. Lets be honest, they can measure the cars porpoising now, they will 100% have sensors fitted and engineers that can see the exact moment porpoising is happening.

[@wideboydave]

Yup agreed. In fact I think Merc should be careful to moan too much as I think this is the only implementation or intervention the FIA should do… ie work out a safe threshold and enforce it. This would disadvantage the Mercs the most at the moment. Fully agree that the FIA should NOT rule on ride height with regard to porpoising… they should focus on a suitable measurement (ie combination of amplitude and frequency). Maybe have a read of the HSE regs on workplace vibration exposure??? These regs are designed to limit people’s exposure to harmful levels of vibration (duration and energy)… I don’t see any real difference from industry to the drivers sat in the car for hours at a time during Practice, qualifying and the race… I’m not suggesting using the same levels and figures as the HSE, but the methodology behind it could be a reasonable starting template.

[@stevenst6337]

Because this rule wouldn’t benefit Merc enough to win races 😂. They’re going to try their absolute hardest to swindle the FIA

[@SHADOWW18]

@@wideboydave Agree'd

[@franktriggs]

It's up to Mercedes NOT the FIA to fix the porpoising. Merc need to fix their own problems to protect their drivers. Drivers have a contract with their team, not the FIA. Hamilton is whinging about it a lot, Russell is getting on with what he has. HAM needs to suck it up and drive for the team, he's paid a hell of a lot more than Russell, yet he's under performing compared to his salary.

[@StarForgedTCG]

yoooooo they are doing exactly this lol

[@SkervyBoi]

I got spoiled by last season being my first season truly paying attention to the sport.

[@squeakybunny2776]

We just had a major regulation change. Large gaps between teams and reliability issues were bound to happen. If Ferrari can solve their issues we should get better fights at the front, especially now that cars can follow each other better. Also in the midfield battles should be better. This race was pretty shit because nobody defended their position and just waited another lap to use drs again. Plus, with the new regulations, top teams get less development time meaning over the years teams will converge quickly.

[@hoolyh3270]

at 26 min in the potcast u just can see how mutch tom doesnt try to hurd matt more :) The bro love

[@AUBravo15]

46:00 hey that’s me!

[@VanskyAlleria]

LOL My Homepod gave me the score of some game when Katie said "Hey Siri". :D

[@christianorsa]

Ah, gotta love those Manscaped ads lol

[@iancullen8314]

And then Grace was born.👌 bloody brilliant

[@VanskyAlleria]

I am a Max fan and earlier this year I thought it was going to be difficult for Max to claw back that huge gap (assuming both teams were reliable). During the race it looked like Max had already taken something like 1.5 sec off Leclerc's lead and we seemed to be in for a good fight. I think Max, with the straight line speed advantage, would have gotten past Leclerc, but I guess we will never know. I don't think it's over though. One or two more failures from Red Bull and Leclerc could be way ahead again. And I don't remember how Red Bull are doing on their parts allocations.

[@juliusfucik4011]

It is not looking good for Ferrari. They will certainly incur penalties this season. RB may as well, but the championship may have already been decided by the time that happens.

[@VanskyAlleria]

@@juliusfucik4011 Well, all Ferrari had to do was keep it together. In some cases they seem to have the faster car. Now it's up to RB to keep it together.

[@theglitch312]

RB switched to their 2nd PU at Baku. 7 races on PU1, and it’s still useable for FP1 and 2 the coming races. They’re bang on target for finishing the season without any penalties atm. Still, one blowup and that’ll likely change.

[@trololo_zhirnota]

Dear WTF1, You can play ABCDEF1 Jingle through OBS/Elgato software, straight from the computer. Also each of you could screen record his video and then sync in in post to get the best picture from your SPONSORED equipment, and it would look a bit more professional also :)

[@dohtje5029]

Hehehe its kinda funny how small time twitch streamers use their equipment and software better then big sponsored channels like this.

[@peeturpain9379]

Just allow hydraulic suspension systems which were used in previous few years. Not only safer in terms of reducing porpoising but teams also have them developed for many years are mature so will naturally bring the field a little closer.

[@lukilladog]

53:22... checo talked about that earlier, they just had a meeting with Max and they are abiding to no block teammate philosophy, something very common in racing where teammates are evenly matched. Ps.- Checo has been saying he will be fighting for the championship before race 1 Katy :P

[@danieljenkins5191]

I'm actually in tears about this onesie 🤣

[@AbrahamArthemius]

I mean.. Airplanes have been using a type of duct tape as well for some quick maintenance on their wings. I kind of figured an F1 team will probably use similar kind of tape as well. Sure, it's temporary but if it's good for a giant a** passenger jet that goes far far faster than an F1 car, then it's good enough for an F1 car.

[@Jelmergu]

I think thats the best new jingle so far

[@richardjvv1137]

favorite jingle yet

[@Nebuloid1]

That abcdef1 jingle was the best one yet, keep it ! Also, Top Gear anyone ?

[@Re-InCarNation]

Tommy's camera is sharper than the other two.

[@ardencassie5150]

I absolutely love the jingle sharing, just wish it was not phone a speaker through a mic.

[@ntlespino]

That final thought was a complete shambles

[@nooballgames3547]

Love u guys thx 🙏

[@Guust_Flater]

Stop crying. Charles and Max have both the same amount of DNFs (2), so the championship leader board is a fair representation.

[@karolinaC1997]

My prediction: Zhou will do a Kubica - he will win.

[@bjornfurster8133]

maybe matt should start wearing a Max Verstappen onesie

[@annexismuriu]

I agree with the person who said most races have been boring. Yes it is true that with the new rules, cars can race close together but how many times has it happened? Most of the times majority of the cars are several seconds behind each other, some even 20 seconds behind the car they are following. For that reason we have had few instances of drivers fighting off for positions apart from the cars at the front (Ferrari and redbull) in some races. In some races we have even hoped for a yellow flag to bring the cars back close together behind a safety car then we can enjoy a minute of close racing before the gap builds up again. Hopefully it will improve as teams bring up upgrades; if they still have money for upgrades.

[@justiceleague5431]

BPM is not the right thing. The bouncing amplitude is the one who should be seen. If the amplitude is over a certain threshold, it's illegal. So that way, teams are forced to decrease porpoising either by finding a solution or by increasing ride height.

[@gold9994]

The problem with propoising is that it doesn't occur in the wind tunnel and CFD. So to fix it, they have to run every iteration of the car, which Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull, and McLaren clearly have the resources to spend for this problem (They can spen 100 million to fix these problems). However, with the "Track testing ban" and "Budget cap", they can't solve this problem. That's the main issue.

[@dustyice3110]

This. They should meatball flag cars for excess vertical G amplitude v. period. They have all this info live from G meters. Willing to bet merc changes their tone when ride height isnt a part of the discussion.

[@seandodd3486]

Simple for porpoising FIA just introduce maximum vertical g requirements. Easy. Forces teams to run cars higher if they suffer, those that dont can run the car identically to how they do now

[@elaldo2382]

Oh and that was the best ABCDEF1 jingle so far

[@mattbell1907]

FIA should mandate a maximum G-force allowed from porpoising and disqualify cars that exceed it. That will fix it fast.

[@mattbell1907]

Have a number and each time the vertical G-force exceeds like 2G it adds onto a score. At the end of a session if you are over for example 2000 then you are disqualified. That would be a total of 1000 2G bounces or 500 4G bounces.

[@dflorienl]

My idea exactly. Give Mercedes what they ask for, not what they want.

[@ousamaelbaghdadi3018]

You need to put in time stamps

[@newguyfrmblocka6304]

Can someone tell me how many overtakes did this race have?

[@Kev79]

They changed the aero package, the tires and the suspension. Maybe pull back a bit on the suspension changes allow a bit more controll of the hight. Not allowing active suspension but maybe allow some of the gadgets they removed for this year. Even this or any regulatory change should only happen at the end of the season. Until then raise your car!

[@jdbb3gotskills]

I wonder if a mass dampener device would help with bouncing. For next year

[@thebonesaw..4634]

Duct tape works in NASCAR... and it tends to hold really well under most circumstances. As long as they're monitoring it to ensure that it isn't coming off, I don't see what the issue is.

[@lyleclarke619]

1:03:00 duct tape is extremely strong and honestly I'm surprised he had to come in for a DRS flap only half opening. There is such thing as being over-cautious.

[@benjaminfaulkner4405]

Tuc tuc race was the funniest thing ever

[@thecasualgamer1457]

But: they both have had eqally as many DNFs, but Leclerc has so many more poles! And still max has turned a 34 point down to 34 points up in just a few races, and Leclerc doesn't even have a consistent teammate to eat into his points (exept in Monaco where Sainz took strategy into his own hands and away from the team). Championship deffo not over, but we will see what'll happen. But at this time Verstappen seems to be the better driver in the slightly slower but more consistent car. That is at the end of the day what breeds champions in a year where teams are this similar in performance

[@DS-md7mz]

Similar to last year, but this time he's got the top speed advantage and has to fight hard in the slower sections to make of the deficit. He's absolutely a "Sunday Man"!

[@lyleclarke619]

1:27:51 "Siri give me a final thought" *KZbin cuts to an ad of Prince Charles talking about climate change*

[@pinquisitor9552]

They should have a new rule with a measure one way or another of porpoising and introduce a maximum allowed porpoising, to force the teams into a safer setup.

[@TeamSukiyo]

George consistently getting podiums and top 5-finishes, only for Toto more consistently calling the car a sh-tbox as excusing Lewis, more often than praising George. Did you see the video of 2 Merc people showing up to congratulate George on the podium after the race? Yikes. It’s not good.

[@imranmohsin9545]

Tapes has been used for front wings all the time so i guess tsu case was just lot more but same idea

[@Rob2]

I agree that the FIA should not change the rules just because some teams have problems, but maybe when they really need to change something, a possibility would be to allow ride height setup changes between qualification and race? That way, teams can qualify on optimal performance setup for their car, and then tune down for the race in order to keep the driver safe. In the race it is a little less important and maybe teams would not be tempted to setup the car for optimal performance but less safety?

[@dozirlik]

It is a high speed tape. They use it in 500 tonnes of weighted aircraft as well. Should be safe.

[@inviz666]

Asking teams and drivers to sort the bouncing out themselves is like asking a crack addict to "just stop smoking crack you idiot". This is about saving the drivers and the teams from themselves. They are not going to ever decide to just go slower. They will run themselves into the ground before doing that. If the FIA don't step in. there is going to be some injuries coming for sure.

[@dohtje5029]

The FIA can step in as long as they don't penelize the cars that got their shit together. In your analogy about crack. forced increased drive hight if you have bouncing problems, just as if they are in a rehab clinic, but saying 'they are addicted to crack, so now you all need to do crack to make it fair' seems a bit farfetched.

[@Hani_Santa]

Well that's then there problem.....life is about dilemma's. Like Lando Norris said Mclaren dealt with it, so it is possible. Just excuses man.

[@TOBORtheMighty]

"Going to be"? The drivers have already done irreparable harm to their brains. CTE does not get better. There is no treatment. The F1 fans who don't have any understanding of what is going on, yet have a strong opinion on what should be done, need to STFU. They're encouraging sacrificing the driver's health in later life for their own short term entertainment now. Twisted beyond belief.

[@dohtje5029]

@@TOBORtheMighty not the fans, the Teams are sacrificing their drivers.. There are solutions they just don't want to take them. What is your solution then?

[@TOBORtheMighty]

@@dohtje5029 Asking a random fan for the solution is dumb. I'm not a qualified engineer. And I don't make an FIA salary. Teams are making the decision, but people like you are making excuses for it. You should feel bad for supporting teams abusing their drivers for lap time.