2020 BMW 840i | The Price Is NOT Right

[@weedmastersr]

I couldn't agree more Mark. Spending 100k on a 2 door car, or maybe any car, is not a rational decision. So, if we're not being rational, then it must have an emotional appeal. It must feel cool, unique and special and this just doesn't. I really don't like how BMW is copy pasting interiors. Basically all the models look the same inside, and that's just not good when you have models for which you ask 100k+. They won't feel special enough. If Lexus can give the LC 500 a unique interior, then so can BMW but they are just too lazy in my opinion. I honestly just rather have the Lexus. It has a cool V8, looks super unique inside and out, and it's simply more special. Both have a synthetic driving experience, but the Lexus is just more special to me. It's certainly not rational to spend that much on a car, especially a rather impractical 2 door coupe, but if I will spend that it better be worth it. It better be something that makes me feel cool every time I drive it and every time I get out of it. This doesn't. I really hope modern cars get their shit together because most of them feel so boring they're putting me to sleep. I'm much rather spend my money on a 1990s 8 series and do a full restoration on one and make it pristine. That feels better to drive and it looks better inside and out.

[@Omar-xg3lm]

We just want 2 cents. You threw in a whole dollar.

[@gtmike916]

Alec Empire Yeah Lexus actually cares about the average joe which is why most models are still relatively affordable. If BMW didn’t make their cars so damn complex they would actually sell better and last longer. BMW at this point isn’t even a quality brand to me.

[@AlexSchwartzATV]

couldnt care less about the shitty infotainment in the LC, id take it 100 times over this.

[@JJS432]

Michael I don’t think I’ve ever used any vehicles infotainment system alone. I always Use Apple Car Play so I’m good with that.

[@Kons213]

This.

[@Ianmundo]

I don’t care how douchey the car is, people who deliberately key cars 🔑 should have to pay every cent for the repair and punitive damages too, it’s disgusting behaviour

[@fastboatster]

Cars are not douchey, but people are. But agree that damaging somebody else’s property is bad no matter how you spin it.

[@oneaburns]

Agreed. I hate that he basically justified it. But the guy running this channel comes off as a punk. He always seems like someone pissed in his cornflakes. I like the guy driving much, much better.

[@italipino24]

@@Hisokaa-d2j in all fairness...he does hate and shit on 7 out of 10 cars he reviews, if not more

[@rocketkinger2506]

We should beat those who key cars

[@coolumar335]

@@oneaburns Mark shits on BMWs cuz he owned an F10 M5 that was the typical BMW wallet-siphoning experience. Dude likes to track his cars and that one always overheated

[@princejay8785]

So BMW is basically trying to charge 20K more for and updated 6 series? They axed the 6 because it wasn't selling and this 8 series looks like it's headed for the same fate lol

[@papa_pt]

yup it's ridiculous. That 20k gets you less room in the backseats than the current 4 and old 6 despite how large this car is lol

[@azizakhtar1190]

S550 coupe used or.msrp is just as expensive. They're trying to compete with merc

[@gtmike916]

Waqas Akhtar Except the S550 is better in every way. Even has a V8.

[@eriknephrongfr8847]

Fact is, it’s a 5 series coupe.

[@kenim]

@@eriknephrongfr8847 Yep, the same reason nobody bought the 6 Series.

[@davidmull7263]

I'm watching this in late 2023, thinking about buying one, because now they've depreciated into the high $40,000 range. Seems like a great value for a person like me! In the past, I've had 911s and I've gotten caught up in the competition for more and more power and speed. I'm over it. The negatives described in this video just don't bother me much.

[@franklinjunior662]

Exactly???

[@3825004]

I paid 54k for a 2021 M850 gran coupe with a 125k bmw platinum extended warranty for 3.5k. It's the exact spec I would have ordered. It was not the best deal but it a fair one. I have had a merc, rovers, and a lexus. The inside isn't exciting, but it's the most efficient cabin i have been in by far.121k was the sticker price, which is overpriced. But 54k with 40k miles with 125k dealer warranty is a value. 4 doors 0 to 60 3.4 that was my personal best is a lot of car. Get one used it's worth it. Open to other's thoughts in comments.

[@davidmull7263]

@@3825004 I ended up buying a 2020 Jaguar F-Type R instead. I still love the 8 series though!

[@MrHav1k]

I'm thinking the same, especially since they've got the B58 in there. Should be as reliable as anything else with the B58.

[@Fee.1]

LOL at the Goose just smiling the entire time Jack is talking about its redeeming qualities.

[@adamlamberti1805]

You know why this channel is awesome? You get real honest reviews and the chemistry between the hosts is perfect. You get a humor, honestly, ability to hear the engine roar, and great production of the entire video. I look forward to new videos. Keep up the amazing and entertaining work!!

[@radudeATL]

I *finally* understand the "savage" part. Dayum!!!

[@kc510]

Truth hurts. I love it.

[@ponrix]

I know. He could give 2 shits about bmw nowadays.

[@aceofspades6667]

The M2 comp, M240i, M3, and M340i are all decent cars. Everything else in the BMW lineup is meh.

[@IsitReallyrealreally]

Werd up. He actually gets pissed! That’s why i love the SG!

[@botis3104]

I think he feels obligated to protect people from making idiotic purchases, if his video can stop one person from wasting an insane amount of money on a mediocre car he’s gonna do his best to get that accomplished

[@dom7452]

Jack is trying really hard to convince his "dad" to purchase the M840i for him in this video

[@mrjohnnyk]

This is a total old man car.

[@rondail5675]

Good summary!

[@mczeljk]

There is no M840i

[@weilandcock]

@@mczeljk ok

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

@@mczeljk k

[@JamesOrtonVideo]

By Suggestion an Edit- This was an experience I had with this model from BMW, not as much to do with the Brand, one saved my life before, and they can produce one hell of an auto, and on this occasion selling it put food on the table for the week, I am grateful for the market that provides this, on the other hand it gets concerning as the resources it takes to build/sell just one car, the manufacturing, use of natural resources, debts, etc. I love the design and care they have to engineer a near 50/50 weight balance, how you can usually take 75% of whats next to you at a stoplight, I am a fan of all that but, this is a vehicle for the moment it seems, and not one for long term enjoyment, its a machine that requires lots of care, making sure it doesn't get keyed, buying tires after being surprised at how fast they need looking after, the joy of driving can become an expensive hobby. Sometimes its not a thought for some owners, wealthy or not, thats where I think the priorities of building and wanting a car like this can be fun and enjoyable but it can take a toll on the future, I have the honor of being around them daily, Love our customers who drive them, you do make the world go round, some deals make sense, just be cautious about what you consume and take care of what you do. I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. ) I was lucky enough to sell one when they first came out, the client had an M3 he was keeping(ended up trading with 16k negative equity) and wanted a mazda CX3 as a winter beater, Since he had BMWs I told him about the M850 now being all wheel drive, so he decided to buy it and drove it home, it was a 2300 lease payment:(, the last time I followed up with him, 1 year into ownership, he had to get rid of it because of divorce, sad. You mean that guy?

[@doctorhonda111]

2300/month. oh my god lol. talk about living above your means

[@thomaswood2390]

@@doctorhonda111 How do you know that was above his means?

[@charlesdr1981]

Video is uploaded 1 hour ago ,and your comment is 16 hour ago 🤔

[@Grayxyz]

@@click9914 you either have money, or you spend money. Not many people can do both

[@LilRick96]

The 8 series GC hasn't even been out for a year tho right 🤔

[@MattAntonioli]

These are $40k in 2024 and are an INCREDIBLY good buy in my eyes now

[@crashlanding6997]

Shhhhhh. I’m jumping at 35k 😂😂

[@michaelp8369]

@@crashlanding6997we’re at 35k!

[@sudokatsu]

9:50 LOL the way the smile deteriorates from Jack's face kills me 12:33 and the eye roll lmao

[@Tsoulistic]

😂😂😂

[@preciadoalex123]

japanwatchconnection he just doesn't like this car, rather have two sides to this car vs just straight milking a BMW just because they both like it and not being realistic

[@GrayFox370]

Jack eyerolled because he is a BMW fanboy and didn't like being called a douchebag.

[@ilovelimpfries]

I understand why Jack feels that way. If you put aside the price and look at it as a car, it's a very competent, well engineered and well thought-out car. Almost every argument i heard on the 8 series is the price. Lets not forget the original 8 series was horrendously overpriced back in the 90s and thats why it didnt sell. I'm willing to bet we will be singing this car praises in 20 years. Another case in point, the Z8.

[@JavonAnonimni]

@@ilovelimpfries Yep, the 8er is great objectively and it is somewhat nicer inside than lesser BMW models. The price is what it is, probably on purpose as to keep it niche. Could have they done more on the interior to distinguish it from other models? Sure. Does it lack character? It does if you are used to older cars, which were louder, rougher, less synthetic and had imperfections you've grown to love over time. But cars nowadays are trying to be the opposite and with emission, safety and other regulations are becoming more bloated, refined and isolated. That's true with all cars, not just the 8er or BMWs in general. And for a vehicle at this price point, Jack said it also, it would be a travesty to be loud and rough (but had "character"). The target buyer wants it to be quiet and loud when needed, that's why you have the fake exhaust, car reviewers need to understand this and get used to it.

[@thefrenchruraldream8069]

This is exactly how car reviews should be done...always honest and extremely objective points of view. Car manufacturers have for years been lazy and I think finally we have had enough.

[@person.w9780]

Lazy? How?

[@akkando]

@@SpartanArmy117 Yea. I'm not the market for this but I can imagine some retired dentist might want a sporty coup with the feel of luxury instead of character. They want something more usable and less raw than a Porsche. They don't want something small like the Z4 or the Supra. It's too much money for what you get? Some people in their twilight years want to live a little. I'm not sure why this is so confusing. I would never buy this but I can see why someone would.

[@fastboatster]

@@akkando come on, realize that it's msrp is actually right on par with the s7 (doesnt matter it has more power but it's heavier so has the same performance numbers) and I don't expect him to diss the s7 anytime soon. And, yes, implying this is a douchey car for rich d-bags is just not the usual class we have come to expect

[@coopsnz1]

BMW make $5000usd net profit on a bmw built in Germany , they probably make less than 10000usd net profit on a 8 series

[@salsa83]

“Doesn’t have gimmicks like Lexus” *Draws circles with finger*

[@vlad1889]

@@tomkat492 No it's 98% reliable the other 2% is using old parts to get that 98%. Styling is subjective, especially when the cars sell.

[@THEGAMINGHELP101]

@@tomkat492 As a Lexus/Toyota fanboy I feel personally attacked....

[@thomaswelcomer8443]

.... but that engine sound is no gimmick!!

[@cwx8]

His point is more that the core experience is straight forward. You don't have to use gestures. Tactile inputs where you need them and a good infotainment

[@Fajoekit]

@@tomkat492 Based on what?

[@DoctorP131]

It's really cool that you guys view the underside of the car, I have not seen any other reviewers do that. It's really interesting to see all the differences underneath.

[@williamstanley9048]

I'd still go LC500 at this price range... But as someone who usually doesn't like BMW style, this car is GORGEOUS

[@aygwm]

Too landboaty for me.

[@ervin7178]

The designers said they based the styling off the s550 mustang

[@ProbeGT2]

When he said 120k, it's exactly what i tought. Might not be as fast but god does it looks better inside/out

[@grocerylist]

I think the 840 is boring looking from the front and the rear end is extremely ugly with the fake vents and fake exhaust tips.

[@idontlisten2you]

I usually like BMW exterior styling. But this car looks cool for the first 5 minutes. Compare it to the old 8-series this looks boring.

[@JoJoJoker]

$100K+? Small rear seats? Massive curb weight? Buy a 911....

[@MrCarGuy]

Right. A new 911 is just as luxurious or much more enjoyable when you want it to be.

[@RobertOfStAlbans_]

*Standing Ovation* Always go 911.

[@Commando_888]

Why isn't there more likes??? Preach man 🔥🔥🔥... Porsche is the way to go

[@thebobsagetguy]

what if you want a gt

[@pnourani]

@@thebobsagetguy get a panamera

[@TheKaisarwilhelm]

Mark over here ready to repeat the Escape review. Jack trying to save the review with a little objective view.

[@baxrok2.]

Not a BMW fan but I love the way this car looks, especially on the road.

[@xzst]

Id take the Lexus LC500 over this, ty.

[@SicSemperBeats]

Easily

[@sbuwieguwie20]

Fully agree with Ya me to love Japanese u get it all at a lower price than the Germans

[@gns942]

200% agree. I don't care if it's not in the same class as the BMW or any other pedantry like that. If I want a 2+2 luxury coupe that will evoke emotion and last forever on basic maintenance, then I'm getting the LC500.

[@Big_Red1]

@@gns942 And that SOUND. My god it sounds sooooo good. Second best sounding car I've ever heard in person. Number one was the LFA lol.

[@RKN1112]

Honestly yes it looks much more interesting and beautiful then this car. It’s also faster and the leather on the inside is next level

[@richardh3587]

Adjusted for inflation, a 1987 635csi was $100k so this is nothing new for BMW. I think the early 90s 8 series was probably even more expensive. in today's dollars. Both were big, heavy (for their day) GT autobahn cruisers mostly driven by bankers. Anyway, I've noticed that Mark tends to get very agitated about expensive european cars and the perceived person who drives them. He kind of spirals into scotty kilmer-esque nonsensical rants at times. The whole thing about the car should only cost 60 (then later he says 40)- really?! Dude- you can barely get a 6 cylinder 4 series coupe for that amount. I'm not a fan of this car either, but it's totally worth the price given the engineering and attention to detail.

[@MrCarGuy]

There are reasons why European cars had such inflated prices in the 80s and 90s. Please study why. You need to look at EU prices to be fair. This car is not nearly as differentiated as the E31 was from other BMW products or even the previous 6 series. 6 series was the flagship before the 8.

[@coopsnz1]

Regulatons, expenses tripled for corporation In 30 yrs left moron

[@Simonofcalifornia]

$101k buys 5 bmw 840i’s in three years.

[@DanDan-tt6gv]

More like 2.

[@daniel41dan]

not sure you would want to buy a 3 year old bmw 840i!

[@DanDan-tt6gv]

Jake Carter, true, even after getting a new Bmw (three weeks after purchase), I was stuck driving a 3 series for a week for bad quality control. Prior to that, I drove loaners 6+ times (36 month period) while waiting for my car to get fixed for simple electric stuff, and on engine lights.

[@happios]

3 of which would be undrivable in 4 years

[@braetonwilson4296]

101k buys 5 new Corolla LE sedans and you will have money left over. I was cross shopping the 2020 BMW 840i and the 2020 Toyota Corolla LE sedan and the Corolla was more fun to drive. Seriously. The Corolla is a lot lighter and because of the all-new TNGA platform, had excellent handling and driving characteristics. Plus I can buy the Corolla for 18k out the door (you have to negotiate hard) while this overpriced German junk is over 100k. Plus Corolla has naturally aspirated bulletproof 1.8 liter engine so more reliable than the B58 turbo engine.

[@ewald3730]

Best driving and looking car on the rood today. And sounds best too!

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

I think that main problem with this BMW is that this is 6 series with 8 series name and price tag attached to it.

[@mrjohnnyk]

It is basically the same exact car lol.

[@snoozeCTRL]

EXACTLY

[@coopsnz1]

Business costs gone up in Germany, since 6 series was built yrs ago

[@miamilifeandfitness]

👍🏼

[@cutter63]

screw value, it's a sweet ride! I ordered my 840i xDrive in a special color that ran me an extra $5k. Can't wait for late December delivery of my one-of-a-kind.

[@cutter63]

ps...I'm not a rich guy. I just have good taste. ;)

[@ghq8982]

Enjoy your car to the fullest because one only lives once. And please also accept my heartfelt congratulations on your acquiring this artful piece of engineering.

[@dragospahontu]

@@ghq8982 it is worth only 50k

[@theoson10]

Do you ever wish it had a sunroof? How does the interior feel without one?

[@davidprince7740]

9:54: "Slab of Worthlessness", please don't sugarcoat your feelings :-)

[@miloslogic]

Haha, you noticed it too!? xD

[@gtmike916]

Miloš Sindjelič Noticed what?

[@miloslogic]

@@gtmike916 the smile and attitude towards the car where he praises it with irony

[@fastboatster]

@@miloslogic it's a typical Midwestern passive aggressiveness, Mr. Geese didn't discover anything new here

[@steveb540i]

It's not worthless... though it is 25 grand over priced.

[@ktpinnacle]

This would feel great to a guy who's worked hard and come into some money, decides to trade in his Malibu. He doesn't want to track it, doesn't live based on 0-60 times, but wants a well-built reward for his hard work. More power to him. But I hope it doesn't break him to own it.

[@billiondollardan]

I'd rather have a thirty year old 8 series

[@charlesdr1981]

That car is a legend.

[@papa_pt]

@Zombie Head wow you can get old 840i here in the US for pretty cheap. Most people want the v12

[@illwill281]

Tell 'em! E31 CSi all day! Hell, I'd even settle for a E31 840i

[@benjaminkessler8169]

Spending 100k in the shop

[@pololedodo7981]

Or a 20 yrs old 540 or a 15 yrs old e63 or S6.

[@tsf17984]

I don’t know what this guy is talking about but this car is an absolute legend. It’s beautiful, it’s luxurious and where I live everybody absolutely loves it.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

My 13 year old 3 series wagon sounds like an exotic car compared to the droning of this car. Seriously, wth is bmw thinking?

[@nicktune1219]

They think it's more refined to block out all engine noise and then replace it with a god awful fake engine sound through the speakers. You can even look at the M5, and there is ZERO engine noise, but rather the fake sound from the speakers. You go into any AMG car and all you can hear is that exhaust and lovely engine sound.

[@pascutia]

And that old 3 series 100% has better steering feel than this car. I'm a big fan of the E90 generation :)

[@OPMDK]

bassandtrebleclef $$$$$ bills

[@mjareacts2731]

Not every car has to have a loud "exotic sound", nor do you need to feel every imperfection in the road. This car is obviously meant for that executive who wants a nice 4 door that has great passing power on the freeway and a ton of technology. Personally I like a car that can get me from point A to point B comfortably, my days of driving a manual were left back in the 90s, and when I'm looking for a smooth comfortable ride the last thing I want to hear is the engine screaming.

[@JeanEstel]

marlon Covington you can just buy a used 635 and feel the same thing. Aside from the interior it literally looked like my f10 535...no where near 80k better

[@2112sgb]

I imagine Jack driving the BMW 840i to a Micheal Bolton concert and feeling cool .

[@jackholmes8105]

😂 as far as internet comment burns I genuinely enjoyed this one.

[@user-qc7dr3cd3q]

Love the honesty.

[@Toyota4Life]

Which is lost with almost EVERY other car reviewer that would have completely been giving a positive fake review. This is why I watch him

[@gw7624]

Not sure I really get the hate for this car here. The whole 'car for rich people' thing could be applied to near enough any Mercedes above a C class, the majority of which won't handle anywhere near as well the 8 series. I also don't get the price complaints; it's a luxury GT, it's not going to be 3-series money. $100k definitely won't get you inside an Aston Martin or Bentley, so it's not as if it's trying to compete with those cars.

[@Suction_]

Just think, the depreciation of this every year could buy you a Corolla

[@PhyuckYew]

@ or a bus pass

[@PhyuckYew]

@japanwatchconnection Unlike most cars. They'll keep running even with poor maintenance.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

japanwatchconnection The new Corolla is quite nice, at least the one I rented.

[@guenthersteiner8163]

@japanwatchconnection for $100,000, this is a pretty big penalty box too. So many better options for the money, and these cars will depreciate 80% within 5 years

[@PhyuckYew]

@japanwatchconnection Gee I own a Tesla. I must hate cars.

[@coreybrown8678]

I like it, but only as a used beautifully maintained example. The intention is that it’s a GT. It’s not a sports car, it’s made to consume continents in comfort…

[@LogicalQ]

The title reminds me of the Bob Barker Scene from Happy Gilmore. “The price is wrong B****.”

[@gtmike916]

Literally this!!

[@campkira]

basicaly a more expensive 6 series... and they don't sell 6 anymore.... but nobody want a 8 used...

[@jim8688]

This video encapsulates why I’ve been watching for years. You tell it like it is from your point of view which is so rare in a lot of car reviewers. As always great reviews

[@UnordinaryKidd]

If this car remained the 6-series nameplate and price tag it would’ve been perfect

[@AproposAndy]

After Lexus dropped the LC500 on the automotive community like a nuke I can't possibly fathom being attracted to this gold encrusted cookie cutter. Sad times for BMW.

[@paulj9821]

LC500 isn't anything great. Horrible Infotainment, far to heavy and unbalanced, and the driving dynamics suffer etc...Toyota is far behind there German competitors when it comes to to building a modern day Luxury sports sedan. They instead focused there R&D on building conservative sedans and SUv's with the prime goal of reliability not performance nor keeping up with modern day competitive performance driven mechanical innovations.

[@nicolasmikah4168]

Paul J the infotainment is not that bad, you’ll get use it. I have Apple CarPlay in mine, so I rarely use the infotainment. The interior design and materials are super amazing, the exterior is so special and unique. The engine sound is superb, it does 0-100 km in 4.5sec, handles very well in S+ and it’s reliable. What else do you need?

[@vipul_singh]

@japanwatchconnection But, just look at it! This 840 is a shrinking violet compared to the LC.

[@Sayua-chan]

Finally a BMW that will help incriminate its driver with parking cams :D

[@rscully5]

60 second in and I had to pause and make this comment. The production value on this video is amazing. Your team should win an award. This is movie level cinematography and edits. Bravo.

[@thielepr]

As a BMW fan and couldn’t agree more on this review. Hard to comprehend this 840i is on the same category of the Lexus LC. This Bmw for 60k would be awesome. Remember the corvette is always fun until it gets to the Porsche money.

[@fastboatster]

Yep, cpo. Actually might be able to get it for 70ish new since its actual msrp is 80. 100k is with a lot of options

[@805NAVE]

The Lexus LC is so much sexier and more Beautiful in every way. From the gorgeous perfect interior top notch materials and reliability out of that DELICIOUS sounding 5.0 N/A V8 it’s and absolute work of art. This bmw could never live up to compete with that

[@JAnx01]

Hard to comprehend what? The 8-series in a V8 trim is a much faster, better handling, with a more spacious interior, better gearbox and a better infotainment system. It is also more rigid and lighter thanks to that carbon core. A NA V8 exhaust note is nice, but it doesn't define the whole car.

[@JAnx01]

@@805NAVE That's subjective. Hideous headlamps are almost becoming a Lexus brand value at this point and the interiors are an over styled mess across the board, the LC being a prime example of that. Not to mention the design is the culprit of it being cramped when it didn't have to be. It's supposed to be a GT car.

[@coopsnz1]

Cheaper to build cars in USA and you don't need to ship a corvette from Germany saving business shipping costs either , in Germany union leaders and Government are cancer to business which pushes up production costs to build BMW why consumers pay more, the net profit margins on a bmw built $5000 , the net profit bmw germany corporaton make 10%

[@lappu911]

This car would be a great buy in 10 years. A reliable b58 and the comfort/looks for 20k. Nice

[@dylanw890]

This car should be like $75,000 to $80,000

[@fastboatster]

Well it is without options.

[@jwell1160]

I’ll wait a few years and get it a little cheaper

[@DzikaSwiniaZX6]

yeah when it cliff dives, it's going to be about $25k

[@MRTOWELRACK]

@@jwell1160 But then with the maintenance, buying this used wouldn't even be worth it unless you knew what you were doing. Ultimately, better alternatives exist.

[@fastboatster]

@@MRTOWELRACK might not be even that bad given its built using BMW's workhorse b58 engine and zf 8 speed transmission. Suspension doesn't seem much different from the 5 series, might be actually identical.

[@ConsciousRobot]

I think the interior design is great, especially in this color combination, which the satin aluminium trim compliments beautifully. Such a clean and modern design, but I also appreciate the flowing waterfall control stack into the center console. So many car makers have moved away from that flowing waterfall style, which I find disappointing.

[@sjw811]

Savage Remember luxury motors out near O’Hare? I’d say in about 07 they had a beautiful white e31 that still felt special even though it was in a warehouse full of lambos , astons and Ferrari’s. I mean here is 13k car in a warehouse full of giants and it still shined. The problem with this new 8 is that it will never stand out, it will never be special.

[@hyacia]

The tail lights stand out at night, that's for sure. But that's the only positive thing I can say about the car...

[@MattLT4]

Heh, a friend and I went to Luxury Motors and did an extended test drive to Wisconsin with a maroon E31 850i many years ago.

[@giezioba7214]

Wow, respect for Mr Geese for having courage telling brutally honest opinion of what he really thinks about this car and not trying to sugarcoat it.

[@BearingPhMotoring]

Whoever buys one may be an a-hole, but whoever keyed that car is a bigger one.

[@ezsog8903]

Finally, the real review is up.

[@3000Payne]

Hi Guys! Big Fan here! Longtime supporter. I don’t disagree with you often, but you summed it up perfectly in the last part of the video. It’s a 9/10 in what it was meant to do. It was never meant to be a Supra, a Z4, or anything like that. That’s why BMW makes the Z4. This is for someone who wants the isolation, the luxury, the “engineering.” It IS a sports car. It’s ALSO a luxury vehicle.

[@WordToMomsYo]

They didn’t key you because it’s an 8-series.. They keyed you because it’s an 8-series *with Jersey tags*, broski. Yours truly, Zip code 07011

[@woodmanvictory]

LMFAO you arent wrong

[@acrspeed]

West coast guy here, I don't get it. Could you please explain?

[@hyperbomb02]

@@acrspeed people don't like NJ, people also don't like people from NJ, hell people who live in NJ don't like other people who live in NJ because there are too many of them.

[@danr154]

I thought this was shot in Illinois?

[@WordToMomsYo]

Dan R it was, however, BMWoA has a major corporate HQ in NJ.. I used to work next door to it in Woodcliff Lake. I used to see all sorts of models driving in the neighborhood ahead of their official NA release.

[@outwestinc]

The Gran Coupe version of the 8 Series is the best "value" in the lineup. I had one for about a month as a loaner and enjoyed it immensely. It should be noted that no one is paying anywhere near MSRP for these. Average discount sits around 15-20% off, so this car would be closer to $80K. Still a shit-ton of money, but not six figures.

[@dannoyes4493]

BMW tries to make a Mustang GT

[@TheCoolOwen]

Yeah, for some reason I see a mustang when I look at this cars side and rear quarter profiles.

[@ramk2443]

And fails .... spectacularly

[@jonnyg234]

More like Mustang EcoBoost in this trim level...

[@nsbioy]

@japanwatchconnection it is certainly nicer than the real Mustang. But not 2.5-3 times nicer.

[@gtmike916]

japanwatchconnection By well built you mean falling apart at 40k miles and costing 40% of its price tag in maintenance? No thanks.

[@BFord-ho3pq]

7:04 : "I know you're in sport mode because I can hear that fake engine noise". I ABSOLUTELY love this guy. I'm a huge BMW fan, I've had many. But their post-2012 BS with turbo 4's, electric steering, and fake engine noise is just lost on me. Just get a Jetta and be done with it. "$100,000 slab of worthlessness" best line ever.

[@AbeYousef]

I feel sad bc all the BMWs in my area are super goddamn expensive if they're not completely broken prior to 2012, I wish I could get to experience those cars because they were what I desired when I was a kid.

[@TheAdventureAuto]

14:15 the panel gaps are good? It looks like the right side of the hood is popped it's so bad.

[@QueenGoesYT]

I bet it's not closed all the way. No way it can be that bad.

[@thetableflip]

@ it's premium feature

[@Random-nf7qb]

It wasn't closed Look at 15:16

[@hyacia]

@@QueenGoesYT Saw a sticky hood latch on a '19 X5. Had to almost SLAM it shut. This looks similar. No mass-produced car is going to have perfect panel gaps, but BMW is about as good as it gets. No way a car (without a Tesla badge) leaves the factory with a defect like that.

[@EricKlauber-xx1zy]

Picked up an M850i used, close to showroom condition with an extended warranty for less than half of the new price. Absolutely incredible car.

[@Skeetskeet333]

From where? I need this

[@rkalla]

"poverty-spec 8-series" 🤣😂🤣

[@mrjohnnyk]

In poverty because you wasted all your money on the wrong car!

[@roebbiej]

You two bickering back and forth was very, very enjoyable. Also, excellent video, thanks guys!

[@kawzx777]

Its overpriced? One can say that about every new car on the lot!

[@johnnymichael1804]

Yep and look at alllllll the money printing going on because of Corona... Buckle up baby. And buy a horse. Cars are about to get even MORE expensive!!!

[@aceofspades6667]

You can get a loaded G70 3.3T under $45k all day long maybe even $40k-$42k OTD if you lean in hard enough. It's an M340i competitor that runs $70k with the same options. I consider that a pretty good value.

[@hamsterama]

Compact cars are still reasonably priced. If you want a new Corolla or a Civic, you get a lot for your money, and they'll take you from point A to point B comfortably.

[@coopsnz1]

@@hamsterama civic , corolla there only $1000 less wholesale price from factory , there no money in these cars new

[@coopsnz1]

Germany is a left social democracy country

[@dpajc056]

I've been saying FOR YEARS car should come with integrated dash cams. It's so easy for them to hide a camera instead of me having a giant piece of gear that almost blocks my view and having the wire dangling.

[@2004cyrus]

dpajc056 my Garmin 66W isn’t huge and works great but yes wire hanging. And a manufacturer will try to charge $995 for theirs. And it’s a privacy issue. I rather have a Garmin that I can pull down in case I rear end a vehicle.

[@Erichhh]

Doesn't the Supra have the same engine and transmission, but with less mass and more character?

[@joshyyyk]

Erichhh and the M240i ... which would save you tens of thousands

[@xeftones]

@Open Ranks same block?

[@BMWROYAL]

Erichhh so Does every other bmw ending In 40i, people don’t buy this car for the performance and transmission.

[@carlsanders1320]

Open Ranks it’s the corporate BMW 3.0 straight six and ZF 8 speed. So yeah, it’s the same thing bar minor changes.

[@michaelhatfield5808]

When 100K is poverty spec

[@cwx8]

Don't worry you can get 92 month financing at 6.99%

[@DonovinJones]

13:17 Jack looks so sad 😔

[@staind039]

I’d pay to hear turbowski’s thoughts on this pile.

[@andoletube]

You'd pay to hear a really bored guy say 4 words?

[@fullalbums5675]

@@andoletube hell yeah

[@gns942]

@@andoletube What is it with this channel's viewers and their obsession with Turbowski?

[@staind039]

GNS the og followers understand his humor

[@staind039]

andoletube yes

[@JacobHall1601]

In AUS this car can be easily 200K and the M8 close to 400K it’s god damn heart shattering

[@benjaminkessler8169]

Cobba hall but you have kangaroos

[@p0werl0ve]

nah, we just poor xd

[@Aaron-ui9tj]

Jesus Christ..... 200K ?

[@Yogi5D]

yeah but aussie money is worthless. In Turkish Lira this car is well over 2million

[@Desertduleler_88]

@@Yogi5D Government luxury taxes are huge in Australia, take that into consideration.

[@CalebBaker500]

Damn Jack was arguing with a brick wall in this one. Lol. The hate was palpable

[@didafm]

Savagegeese is hard to impress.

[@pierremartin9048]

That goose smile at 8 or so is killer! But no way way man, maybe at 60k, but 100K. It’s been designed for the margin improvement guru at BMW.

[@coopsnz1]

There only 8k net profit in a 8 series built in Germany for corpraton idiot

[@robosullivan704]

I totally agree with Mark! This car is definitely not with $100k. Douchebag factor!!

[@michaelw6277]

I love how you get right to business in your videos instead of drawing out some ridiculous intro.

[@SCQT]

"and i couldnt care less" pretty much perfectly sums up how I feel about a huge portion of the, very technically impressive, modern cars that are being made.

[@67tomcat]

Would rather have a Supra at 1/2 the price. Have to admit, the 8 Series in this color is pretty sharp.

[@zaitcev0]

Supra is a 2 seater unfortunately.

[@001spring]

For this 100k price, I'd buy an LC500 tbh.

[@cwx8]

@Green Mills It's a 2 seater sports car.

[@mjareacts2731]

Mark is way overthinking it. While I do agree that the price is just way too much the executive that would be driving this car doesn't want to feel the gravel from on the tires through the steering wheel column (yes I know this car has electrically assisted steering), or do they want to waste time with a clutch in a stick. The car is exactly what it's supposed to be, an executive two door salon with nice power and a ton of features. Some of these review guys expect everything to feel like a racecar screaming down the road, but that is obviously not the point of this vehicle.

[@fredeb67]

Liked this review. Made me smile.

[@SP-fw1xe]

I had one of these for a week and it was AWESOME to drive. I didn’t want to take it back. It was so fun but felt so safe. It handled the road well. And it was FAST.

[@Erichhh]

4:36 the right side of the diff cover is already leaking.

[@derodge]

For the person who keyed this vehicle: "Just because you can't afford something does not mean you have to hate it!". But, The poor sales of this vehicle will speak for itself on how appealing it really is.

[@andrewp9725]

Great review! You’re both right crazy money Mark there’s more out there for the money but Jack knows who buy these cars and so many people will just buy it because the badge says Bmw...

[@stevemiller1626]

I had one for a week in NorCal a few months ago. It was very good and the B58 is glorious but it's twice the price of an M440i.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

The m850i has more performance to justify the price, but even that car starting at $120k sounds insane! The 8 series needs a price adjustment. The m8 starts at $133,000, the slower, less performance models should be priced accordingly.

[@ForTehNguyen]

and it still looks like a mustang

[@mackie1001]

I’ve leased one in the UK for considerably less than an M340i - I’d be surprised if similarly huge discounts are not available elsewhere.

[@papa_pt]

They thought they'd fool everyone by calling the new 6 series an 8 series and then moving every model $20k upmarket.

[@papa_pt]

@@mackie1001 I don't see that as remotely possible in the US. The M850i stickers for twice the M340i ...why would anyone lease a 330i if you could have an M850i

[@MaxSpeedMike]

The 8 series will be a great value in 3-4 years when it's worth about half of what you pay now

[@tman2damax]

The current 8 series should be named what it really is in disguise, a 6 series, it doesn't look or feel anything like anyone would imagine a true 8 series successor would. We all theorized that the new 8 series would be the i8 with a v12 in the back or something crazy like that in order to be the true BMW flagship. But the 8 series we have, in a weird way, is the BMW flagship. It represents the shift from well engineered, well build cars that were very fun an engaging to drive, to a brand that's just has a badge to flex and you know it's going to be effortless to drive around town or on the highway. Luckily the M2 still exists, but who knows how long they'll still offer an affordable, 'traditional' BMW.

[@johng.4959]

Goose owned a BMW before. He knows. His wallet also knows...

[@dash-ryan]

I agree, they should have sold it for $60k and called it a 6-Series.

[@MrCarGuy]

It really does belong as a 6-Series.

[@MrSinobi52]

We can tell who's the BMW fanboy 😜

[@basithph8958]

While everyone is talking about the car, people need to talk about your editing skills Man it’s on point especially if you’re talking about cars like the BMW 8-Series

[@khunopie9159]

Man I thought you guys were going to go Full Englewood on each other for a moment there. Never go Full Englewood

[@martin781578]

For $100k i will get Corvette C8 and for the rest ($20k) i will buy anything reliable with automatic.

[@coopsnz1]

Corvette built in capitalist country why it cheaper

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

@@coopsnz1 English 100

[@kdrguru]

I guess mr geese isnt getting any more BMW to review.

[@Toyota4Life]

So are you kind of admitting that other car reviewera sugarcoat their reviews to continue getting more cars...

[@kingpeasant5099]

@@Toyota4Life They all do it.

[@timothycc711]

He doesnt need the douche bag soulless car brand. Only for rich wankers.

[@fastboatster]

Timothy Clark stereotype much?

[@oneaburns]

Timothy Clark That’s a stupid comment.

[@robintweed2218]

"The BMW 8 series. The official car of spreadsheets and mergers." I've never heard a car described so succulently. You guys are the most insightful and honest car journalists I have seen long time. Looking forward to watching more of you. I actually really like this "product". It ticks so many boxes even though it's does nothing for me emotionally. I wouldn't mind getting a used one in future after it's taken the horrendous depreciation hit.

[@tollytimepropulsion5252]

$100,000 Mustang!

[@ramk2443]

A slower and unreliable mustang

[@cwx8]

Minus the rust that starts the second you drive through the first puddle, and the interior that falls apart, and the shit panel gaps, and the horrendous paint.

[@chaseteter]

Meanwhile the LC500 is over here looking like a million bucks with mirrors in the god damn tail lights.

[@JAnx01]

It is also inferior in every metric, its headlamps are hideous and the interior is a cramped overstyled mess.

[@MrCarGuy]

@@JAnx01 Hahaha! Cramped? Right. That must be why the LC is more comfortable to me with better seat bolstering than the 8 Series. I am 6' 4". The 8 Series' entire design isn't even cohesive. The interior is not even unique and shares the same carryover bits from the other models. The Lexus engineers developed the LC with passion. This car was designed by 5 people who weren't close to enthusiasts. That's alright. The LCF will be here to crush the M8 as well.

[@chaseteter]

JAnx01 Hey if inferior means quicker at the drag strip then inferior is not what I thought it meant! Honestly I stopped there since I don’t have time and you didn’t supply A SINGLE METRIC 😂 You might not care for it but it’s generally considered a special car among enthusiasts. This 8 series doesn’t seem to be garnering that same sentiment but carry that torch buddy! Let that beacon of the douche shine bright, park sideways and always pay extra to park in front. If you lived in Chicago you and your 8 would be right at home in the gold coast. Stop by if you’re ever in the city you’ll thank me!

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Well, that was the last BMW for Savagegeese…. Although I do agree with the conclusions, I don't agree to talk so disdainly about the clientèle of this car. BMW cannot help that there are rich people wanting a clean, effortless drive with a posh BMW badge on it. BMW makes use of this to double the price of the car. But well, wouldn't you?

[@vvk]

"you have some screws lose to buy this car" That pretty much sums it up. It pretty much is a match made in heaven for the douche who is going to buy it.

[@d1sturb3d119]

@@vvk But BMW knows that which is why their lease deals work. No one buys an M3 with the competition package because its a stupid idea to buy a 90k M3 but to lease it, the numbers always seem better. And folks looking for BMW's latest and greatest will lease away.

[@coopsnz1]

BMW Germany probably.doesnt even make $10000 net profit on 8 series built in Germany factory, there a big difference to turnover from sales and net profit which left political leaders don't mention

[@kz7432]

the i8 looked way more special for a similar price. not saying it was a great car overall, but it definitely had the wow factor you'd expect with a 6 figure price tag.

[@ZakTheRipper18]

And it was as slow as my WRX STi lol.

[@marshmellow3110]

Hey guys, have y’all done a review on the newish Lincoln Continental? I can’t find it in your library and would really like your take on it. Thank you

[@frankone97]

You just answered yourself.

[@TheAngryDuckman]

Might as well get the G90 over continental. G90 is a huge step up in luxury.

[@michaelmurphy4574]

TheAngryDuckman nah, for the continental, that probably competes with the g80, since the continental starts at $46,000 and the g80 starts at $47,000

[@aceofspades6667]

The Conti Black Edition (black on beige) has a special interior.

[@reginaldscurlock6537]

Regardless of anyone's feelings, it is wrong to damage someone's property because of your personal dislikes. Someone who can't afford a car, would be okay scratching up a Ford Fiesta with this logic. We talk about the merits of pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps, but then get angry when someone spends their money on something that they want. Just stop. And no, I don't own a BMW. I just work for what I have.

[@scanspeak00]

Love the rant. How sad to see what has become of the "ultimate driving machine". I'd rather have an E30 325i.

[@JoshCraver9000]

Seems like Kia/Hyundai has taken that away.

[@byronnasem4110]

JoshCraver9000 Well you can thank Albert Biermann, but I like where he’s at now a lot better :)

[@RossMKF1]

Drive the new 340i so much fun

[@RossMKF1]

@@JoshCraver9000 nah doesn't compare to the 340i

[@G90M5Kel]

It has a b 58 that you can get to 750hp w a tune and downpipe for 2k. It’s for the used market and tuners man.

[@MrDieselakias]

@14:16 : the panel gals are great... HUGE BONNEt GAPS

[@kevinbouy]

Yeah I was barely paying attention to the video and I said "holy shit" out loud when I saw that. Crazy

[@VeyronBD]

For a second i thought that was meant to be like that until I realised the left and the right side have 1/4 inch differences lol

[@JAnx01]

Guys, at least watch more footage in the video before you create your own echo chamber of idiocy. It obviously wasn't closed properly.

[@MrDieselakias]

@@JAnx01 it is not idiocy. It is hilarious when the presenter says there are not panel gaps while huge panel gaps are shown in the video (irrelevant if it is because the bonnet is not closed properly). Maybe he chose to put the clip of the bonnet while talking about gaps as an irony

[@brendanpeery2655]

looks like it's bent or something. later it shows a lower front shot and that gap isn't there. they said it had been keyed but maybe there was more to it.

[@thewolf61691]

Its needs to be faster for the price but I'd consider it, BMW treats customers like GOLD. The experience as a new BMW owner over the past 8yrs has been significantly more pleasant than other brands.

[@Keitho1967]

I'll stick with my Porsche thank you.

[@Destroyah32]

Fa Ab ignorant.

[@turbochoochoo]

@Fa Ab this makes no sense, are you talking about the cayenne?

[@2004cyrus]

Keith Vargas amen Same here!

[@Commando_888]

Porsche is the way to go🔥💯... No 2 ways about it 👊👊

[@ubermagoo]

14:16 LOL "the panel gaps are good" *hood gap enters the chat*

[@Road2RacingPA]

14:14 He just said it DOESN'T have an obsene grille? I would argue that it does

[@savagegeese]

Compared to what is coming soon, it seems tame.

[@snazari1994]

Look at the hood gap wth is that

[@Lensman864]

@@savagegeese When does a grille become a full on cage?