2020 Crossover Snowmobile Shootout!

Luke takes a closer look at the 50/50 crossover snowmobile market addressing its appeal to its current demographic and comparing four of the top players in this category including the Backcountry XRS 850, Yamaha Sidewinder XTX LE, the Switchback Assault 850 and Arctic Cat's Riot 8000.
#ThatSkiDooFeeling #Snowmageddon2021 #yamahasnowmobiles #LetsRide #snowtraxtv

[@minnesota4169]

I don’t know how your edits and filming in these videos are so good it blows my mind every time. These videos really tell me a lot as a watcher too. I have been especially getting questionable recently on what model sled I might want to get next. Amazing video guys! 🙌

[@kennethbullock5553]

Great video, and information Luke, thanks. To the whole Lester's work and information 👍 keep up the great work! I look forward to your new videos!

[@bedlambikes]

Cat coming in hot! So good to hear!

[@poochiecoochie6497]

Great video! Thanks for all the testing you do!

[@patrickirish427]

Great honest analysis of all these sleds I appreciate the emphasis on the point is to be a truly 50/50 sled and I would say the Assault fits that best as well.

[@pc7082]

This is exactly what I was looking for as a crossover comparison. Great video ! Helps me with my choice

[@deansevic343]

Excellent video absolutely enjoyed it and the results were interesting to great shootout

[@R1D387]

Yamaha XTX here in Sweden has 2 inch challenger (had 2.25inch powerclaw last year), mountain spindles and mountain skis, interesting. Wish you could try out Lynx Boondocker RE as someone said earlier, it is really fun both on and off trail.

[@brad8665]

I have been a loyal skidoo guy all my life. I am seriously considering snow checking a switchback assault 850 this spring... I rode a friends and I was hooked.

[@TheLeblancGroup]

Currently on a Freeride.. thinking Backcounty XRS or Sidewinder XTX LE... 2021 Backcountry XRS turbo would seal the deal for me... Great video Luke

[@collinkuiper6692]

I can't speak for the cat or the Yamaha; however, I have ridden both the Ski-Doo Backcountry XRS and the Polaris Switchback Assault (both 850s, of course). I can say from experience on riding both on and off-trail, the Ski-Doo is undoubtedly a better sled, but that is just my opinion. In the off-trail category, SnowTrax was spot on. The skidoo gets on edge much easier, keeps the skis up higher, and pulls like a freight train compared to the Polaris Switchback Assault. In terms of on-trail performance, I still believe that skidoo reigns supreme. The ergonomics allow you to lean into corners much more than the Polaris, thus keeping your stability on trail, allowing you to ride faster. On the moguls and whoopties, the Skidoo is still much better. When you are on the Polaris, your ass keeps bouncing off the seat, due to the lack of quality suspension. When I rode the Doo, my butt stayed glued to the seat, and there were no issues with the way it rode, as it was better at soaking up the bumps, in my opinion, than the Polaris. At the end of the day, both sleds are top of the line, and they are exceptional. They both have decent motors, even though the E-Tec is a bit better, as it pulls harder, and both sleds are very fun to ride. I still don't like how SnowTrax claims that the Polaris is the better cross-over, just because it is a "truer" 50/50 sled. I would take the Doo on the trail compared to the Polaris any day, no questions asked. Off trail is no question either, as the Skidoo can hold the sidehill and maneuver much better than the Polaris. When I rode the Polaris, I couldn't even get the sled on edge, even with wrong-foot foward. Is SnowTrax biased? Maybe not, but they definitely can't say that a sled is better than another, just because it matches the definition of a sled class more than the other, such as a 50/50 crossover.

[@lucfavreau4081]

Did anybody else catch the two inches joke?

[@mxr7586]

Luc Favreau yes

[@joshkoltes]

Aren't the spindles between the riot and the xtx different

[@WabigoonMusky]

Would and SKS 146 not compare better to a Backcountry? 70/30 off/on. Flatland freeride shootout please.

[@kennethbullock5553]

Probably already commented on this video, I didn't look, but I have been going through a few of your videos and sometimes I forget what I committed to 😂, but, besides the usual praise I give all of you at SnowTrax, I have a question, I just wanted your opinion on the switch back assault,does the mid windshield which I think is what was on the sled you were showing, anyway,does it actually benefit over the low windshield?

[@afterlife5404]

Well I see nothing changed with the shootout segment...... I don't know why I keep watching this stuff😒 although I think I know whose going to win in the next 50 shootouts! (POLARIS!!!!) so now you don't have to melt you're brain watching the next 50 shootouts👍

[@steampunkonblitz8627]

Cope, Polaris just better

[@mathieujoesphmatt8873]

I’ve had a Assualt and I’m trying the backcountry this year since I like the off trail more but still wanted the somewhat on trail riding once and a while

[@ponycarfan]

What about the Cat seat? What would make it better - seat from a ZR? Or, something else?

[@VladMatejka]

Nice comparison. I've been waiting for this. I am a Doo guy, but the assault certainly is the best at being 50/50 right now. I really like it's trail handling. I prefer Ski-Doo ergos and value off-trail more, but Polaris gets more tempting every year.

[@alexandrecyr7577]

Gotta say I love the trail comfort on my swictback assault 800 2019. Even added a passenger seat and went in med depth powder no problem

[@dylandavies3634]

I was wondering if you could answer a question for me, does the R motion skid perform better in xrs form with a kyb shock than the base shock on something like a TNT or Blizzard or is the difference in shock not noticable?

[@dwightstorer1533]

Dylan Davies in my opinion not a big difference unless you actually know how to use the shocks anyways lol. I have ridden both cant tell the difference unless if you adjust your shocks 10 times a trail to get it to handle perfect. More of a “look at this” type thing more than anything in my opinion

[@musicman6887]

Dylan Davies yeah i’d say the same as the other guy, not very noticible

[@awdken6]

Really torn between a Polaris Switchback Assault and an Skidoo Renegade XRS for my Spring Snow check order. Currently ride a 2015 Renegade XRS and love it. I definitely ride trail more then I do backcountry. I’m just wondering is the assault with the 144 will feel like it’s “pushing” more into corners when trail riding.

[@oldslow3694]

if you are happy with sled just update. you know what you have with the 015 just 5 years newer technology, i went from 011 rush pro ride to 019 xc 129indy so much better sled

[@awdken6]

old&slow I ended up buying a left over 2020 Assault. Couldn’t resist the pricing my dealer gave me, and frankly the 2021 Polaris color options were more than under whelming.

[@oldslow3694]

@@awdken6 great, if you bought 850, like any new motor break it in right, my 850 steers great i use 6 ''' carbide

[@jaredgulaga8367]

Hey! I was the 1000th like. Thats pretty cool!

[@VanderBillt]

Lets see a 60/40 off trail/on trail comparison featuring the SKS 146, Riot X, XTX SE and Freeride 146!

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Sterling van der Putten exactly!!

[@afterlife5404]

We all know who will win that lol Polaris every time :/

[@ChuckBeefOG]

I love my old 2014 assault. But since i bought it new i find i mosty ride off trail now and only do a few short groomed trail rides per year. Thinking about the SKS 146 but dont want anything that will be horrible on trail.

[@mikaelkoskinen2060]

Chuck Beef well sks 146 is the one for u if ur more into off trail but still wanna do well on trail

[@keenanstahl]

Looking at your video, the A-arms are nearly horizontal on the Assault, Sidewinder and Riot. Set the skis wide and reduce the front preload on the Backcountry and then let us know how it compares on the trail.

[@brenwhittal]

That’s just the way they sit doesn’t changing them tombe even wouldn’t work cuz then one is gonna be way softer than the other and for the ski stance well it’s only able to go up to 40” so can’t even get to 42” like the others

[@keenanstahl]

Blitz _ I own that exact sled and in my opinion it makes a huge difference. Snowtrax mentions the importance of suspension setup in many of their videos. The channel continually asks for our feedback so here’s mine: Get that ride height down where it should be and tell us if you still think this is a 70/30 sled.

[@PackedandReadyFranco]

is cat not making the new version of the xf1100 turbo or the 9000 i had a 13 model and it was un real the limieted even had heated seat but it was heavy

[@heybubbah]

Four-stroke is only offered in the Thundercat for 2020 and 2021...the XF lineup is gone. M, Riot, or ZR

[@TyfoiD75]

And Ive driven all of those, Lynx Xtrim RE is the best 50/50. I almost did like assault, but after 2 engine failures, Its either Lynx for crossover or Lynx Boondocker for deepsnow (fun)

[@robertm7554]

Lynx =Ski-Doo right? Are there major differences? I have never even seen a Lynx.

[@TyfoiD75]

@@robertm7554 they collaborate but are different brands.

[@ponycarfan]

How can the "seat problem" on the Arctic Cat be solved? Would simply switching to the ZR/Procross seat be an option? Or, are there no options to solve this? The 2021 seat looks the same as 2020, but does color match the body work.

[@mainetroutwhisperer]

ponycarfan what’s the deal with the seat? I don’t get it.. I have that seat on my High country and love it. Not sure what he was referring to?.

[@ponycarfan]

Maine Trout Whisperer I'm not entirely sure. I thought it was fine, but some people comment that it's a little short and too soft. In the video, I didn't hear a reason, just that they didn't like it. I'm just wondering whether there are options if people don't like the seat.

[@bedlambikes]

@@mainetroutwhisperer I even put the High Country seat on my 2018RXC cross country race sled. It's a pretty nice seat! Firm but not too firm with a narrower size, but not too narrow. I don't see the problem either? I wish Luke stated WHAT he doesn't like about it. Luke?

[@mainetroutwhisperer]

bedlambikes probably because it isn’t stamped with a Polaris logo

[@Revrider550]

@@mainetroutwhisperer i find it pretty soft when on trail. When you get on a bumpy trail I eventually start to push through the seat into the base if i'm not dead center on the seat. Not a big deal on flatter days with the occasional set of bumps but on rough days I start to feel like I have to stand when I'm coming up on bumpy corners or moguled out sections. The shape never bothers me though in that aspect I actually like the seat. Because of the shape I know exactly where i am on it and dont feel like you're sliding off of it at any point.

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

I think you should compare the Backcountry with the Riot X sometime. They seem to be sort of in a segment of their own, maybe throw the SKS in the mix too Edit: oh and the BTX, we haven't really seen a video on that thing either

[@709Gixxer]

I tend too normally agree with you here but i do think you are wrong when you pointed out the 2010 renegade to be the sled that started it all... the 03 polaris sks came out in a 700 and 800.... 144" skid with tipped up rails and a 1.25" predator track. In my opinion thats when crossover sleds began.

[@jclar3565]

Lots of details but not much mention of skid length. I saw 146 on one of them

[@pjakk84]

Polaris was one of the first with crossover snowmobiles if im not wrong..and yea they have been nr 1 in the crossover segment for some years

[@tysontupper9415]

Could you not tell that skidoo’s seat was literally 3 times smaller than arctic cats

[@ackeb1]

i am so sorry for you guys that you dont get the lynx bondocker re, its so much more playful than both the polaris and the doo. dont know about the arctic but the skid of the lynx is an absolut beast on rough trails!!!

[@justinbarnes1621]

Never been this early

[@endurotruckererniedesjardins]

Absolutely love my 2019 Polaris assault 800.

[@ianstuart7395]

I really think you understate the backcountry on trails. I honestly find it’s the best all around trail sled I have owned.. that being said a 40-42 stance would have made more sense. I have brain damage because I don’t think the 850 Polaris isn’t better then my 850 doo? I guess I have been drinking to much doolaide. They felt very similar to me

[@dwightstorer1533]

850 doo is wayyyy better than the 850 polaris. It has been proven to go 10,000+ miles and my buddys 850 polaris dropped a cylinder half way through the first season. And thats not even to mention the p drive clutch the doo has and the etec injection system.

[@njorgnjorg6057]

I’ve talked to three dealerships in wi that sells both ski doo and Polaris and they all said the 850 patriot dose not have what the 850 e tec has in performance, oil consumption, gas mileage, etc. two of the guys I talked to said the e tec blows it away. So I don’t know how he can say the patriot is the most impressive motor. Iol

[@MrTjulius]

I've ridden an 850 Polaris and have my 850 bcxrs, my take is the Pol has weaker low and mid range hp but is slightly better up top, the 850 Doo has a real big mid-range hit. Both very nices engines

[@ianstuart7395]

Troy Julius That’s my point.. how the heck can the say the 850 patriot is the best N/A engine ever? It just isn’t from even a power standpoint.

[@njorgnjorg6057]

Troy Julius I agree with on the low and mid rang being noticeably more with the e tec. The e tec gets better fuel economy and has better oil consumption . It is also a stronger performing engine “quicker” so staying the patriot is the most impressive 2 stroke made is a joke.

[@blaudick]

Not sure a 50/50 is the best crossover sled as it’s ok at both but excels at neither. Most people are going to be doing one thing more than the other and would benefit from a sled that sacrifices a little on one side to give you greatness on the other side. Who wants to take a 42” wide ski stance off trail??

[@dwightstorer1533]

I thought the same thing. Thats why cat made the riot x to have 2 60/40 sleds instead of one 50/50. I think the assault and the riot is a 60% trail 40% off trail sled if you ask me. And the ski doo is the only 50/50. Id still take to doo out of all of them.

[@duckdestroyer2412]

I love my 2021 ski doo backcountry it goes anywhere, which is perfect because I honestly hate trail riding it is too much like driving a car down the highway, never really any challenge.

[@bradyanderson6840]

The Cat is a completely new machine with more than enough subjective features to win out and somehow it lost? Polaris isn't only paying out pro riders anymore I guess

[@charlespalmerii4299]

Pretty Interesting... I own a Riot ,and I have not purchased a Arctic Cat since 2003 , so , I am not a crazied AC brand guy, but I will tell hands down , the Riot is the Best Snowmobile I have ever owned and I have purchased a number of new sleds over the years .. No way would I trade this in for an Assault, they are way too tippy and despite what they say, they do not handle better then the Riot on Trail... You can even see in the Video if you look close enough... Also, I have 875 miles on the Riot this season already , I been thru Deep powder to groomed Trails and a lot of in between with this Machine... Simply put, I love the Riot all aspects of it ...

[@charlespalmerii4299]

Something else they left out , there is like 3-4 thousand Dollar Price difference between the machines, if he does not like the seat, get a aftermarket one...LOL

[@YOSHI450R]

@@charlespalmerii4299 I'm a Ski-doo guy and I just got to try a Riot a few hours ago. I don't agree with you, I prefer the assault on trail and off trail. I didn't have a complaint about the seat but I'm a stand up rider. The engine felt great. My brother in law had the same complaint about the assault being tippy at first but once you adjust your riding style it's not a problem. Getting the riot on its side to carve felt like it required more effort than the assault does. I haven't ridden the new changes to the Backcountry xrs yet. But between the assault and the Riot I much prefer the assault and have considered ordering one. But I rode the XCR 137 850 and I loved it, if I don't stay on an MXZ next year I'll probably get the XCR. But I have a few sleds I want to test out before I decide

[@charlespalmerii4299]

@@YOSHI450R , we can agree to disagree , and that is why I always suggest , and not just snowmobiles , a given individual needs to try out something on there own , and form there own opinion , we can all discuss our experiences and that is a Healthy thing to do ... but we all are wired differently ... I do though have some questions about your statement and your opinion... You did not state how long you have ridden the Polaris for , just the Riot for a few hours ? I own a Skidoo as well and have owned Polaris in the past too... The issue I have with Polaris on the trails is going thru turns , Too much ski lift and unstable feel to it ... and on the Riot I can take turns much Higher speeds no ski lift , and no pushing .. simply amazing for such a long track... Most of the time on the trail, I am feeling like I am on a 137 or less!! never felt that way on an Assault ... Regarding off trail, do to the fact assault is lighter , and if you are use to that, the Riot will make you skill up to carve but once you learn technique to handling the sled .. your good to go... and it is a RIOT!! Now at 875 miles on the sled feeling very confident on it ... I like my Renegade , but there is something about the feel of the Riot that there is no way I would give it up for either Assault or Renegade ...

[@YOSHI450R]

@@charlespalmerii4299 over the years I have put over 1000 miles on a few different assaults, 600's included. Most of them on a 800. I put 80 miles on the Riot, Trail, off trail and ditch banging, the off trail powder was mild so it wasn't a great rest of it's deep snow performance. Trails had a good tackiness to them so the sled had plenty of bite. I'd like to get more seat time on it and I will at some point this soon. The biggest thing I noticed with the riot was that sitting and standing didn't make much difference compared to the Polaris's and Ski-doos. While I was riding it my thought kept going back to, it'd be a perfect sled for my mom, sister or someone looking at going faster easier, that's not a knock on it. It just felt more forgiving. I know that my sister hated my MXZ because she couldn't keep up with the group as she doesn't stand to get her weight over the front. I think the riot would be a great fit for her. If the seat is comfy for a sit down rider. She had a 600 assault before going to a switchback pro-s last year. My cousins switching to a Riot for next year. He's always been a Cat guy. Did the Assault you rode have larger lugs? All the ones I've been on had the short lugs that could be a difference in our cornering experiences.

[@djcarkhuff]

Welcome to PolarisTtax. Today we're going to do a 2nd-4th place shootout

[@snowmanwithahat]

I was thinking about this yesterday... SkiDoo is really missing the mark with the BCX with the narrow front end. I think a Renegade front end, with a disconnectable sway bar and then an adjustable limiter strap on the tunnel, along with a 146 Cmotion rear and Storm 150 track would be a perfect combination to take on the Assault. I'm going to be swapping the skid on my Renegade XRS if I ever have to replace the track and will be doing just that combination.

[@MrTjulius]

Love my bc xrs just as it is, I see no need for a wider front end

[@charlespalmerii4299]

I have my son on a Renegade Adrenelne 900 ACE , put a Lithium Battery in it, Cudney Performance Clutch, MBRP Can , and a BackCountry 1.75 track , dropped about 20lbs , oh and Slydog Powderhounds 7 inch, and man you be surprise how well it does in the Powder! Its like a new machine...

[@matt-justice]

Have to agree. You guys get a lot of hate, but I bought a Riot and an Assault to see for myself this year. The assault is better in every way, except groomed trail stability. The difference is huge

[@jmj267]

Not much Backcountry riding here in Wisconsin and for that reason I'm out. But if I would the Polaris assault all the way.

[@sleddingfarmer8692]

You ever go to Michigan? I live in Wisconsin and go up to Michigan a few times a year... Awesome off trail riding up there, and tons of it. I now own a mountain sled and a trail sled.

[@tuckerschwab5331]

I think arctic cat needs a twin turbo small displacement 4 stroke for a lightweight high horsepower 4 stroke

[@mxr7586]

Schwab Cob Yamaha makes the 4 stroke motors for them. The motors make a lot of power and can tune it from 180 to 280hp which is plenty

[@tuckerschwab5331]

@@mxr7586 yes but they are heavy so to make up the power for a smaller displacement engine they need a turbo or 2. That way you have the benefits of a 4 stroke and the weight of a 2 stroke and the sound of turbos

[@robertbartholomew4473]

Two things for me: 1) Arctic Cat really needs a new updated engine (turbo anyone) 2) That 2021 Riot X w/ Alpha One....Ohhh baby!! I'm an Assault owner, and I agree it's the best.

[@bedlambikes]

Robert Bartholomew the Cat 800 with its gearing and fantastic clutching is fierce in the powder. There’s nothing wrong with it. I’d take the best handling and best steering crossover sled over something with another 50cc’s that steers like a freight ship any day !

[@robertbartholomew4473]

@@bedlambikes It's a fantastic engine...just saying it would be nice to see an upgrade and would love to see an answer to the Skidoo's 2stroke factory turbo.

[@91Wildcat700]

The Alpha 1 read suspension is designed solely for off trail riding in mind. The single rail doesn't lend itself to high speed cornering on groomed trails it would just become a pure mountain sled not a true 50/50 crossover. And Cats 800 got the Ctec 2 treatment in 2018 and for 2020 it got new cylinders pistons and heads and now makes 165 horsepower the same as the 850 patriot while being down 50cc pretty impressive.

[@charlespalmerii4299]

@@bedlambikes , agree!

[@charlespalmerii4299]

@@bedlambikes , I agree with you , I have the 2020 800, with the new mods they put on it , and WHY this engine pulls hard all the way thru and I am riding at 8 - 10k Elevation but do have the clutch kit on the Riot...

[@clarknawrocki9718]

I grew up in Minneapolis Minnesota and the only reason I still live in Minnesota is because I love my.polaris switchback

[@bmergeek3353]

Still Polairs biased i see

[@nsa6790]

Bmergeek335 some things never change 😕

[@bmergeek3353]

@@nsa6790 yeaa unfortunately

[@RooTs1100]

Not bias when it’s true.

[@nsa6790]

Mic Venz except that you know it’s not

[@SL-ix4yk]

Good review, but still a paid promotion, by Polaris. Polaris 850 is more like a 600 in power than everyone else 800/850

[@Admiraldna]

I will keep my summit and I live in Sask!!

[@ryans2004]

Admiraldna, after 4 different length of mountain sleds since 06 (2 rmk and 2 summits) I cant say enough good about my new switchback assault. Give a true xover a try for the riding in Sask there is nothing better! Was the summit better in bottomless snow absolutely but the SBA does well and the ride and handling on the trail to get to meadows is SO much more enjoyable. If you don’t ride 150-200 miles a day on groomed trials the summit is fine for just playing around.

[@heatmoon]

Sorry, but in 2000 and before Arctic Cat made what they called a Powder Special, 600EFI, 1.6" lugs, same length track as your Backcountry. You may not like it or its name, but you're just wrong. You're love for Ski Doo is understandable, they are the sled to beat very often. But the are rarely the first, and rarely the best. 2nd place is usual for these guys. My Minnesota boys work hard, bring in the best engineers and since the Prowler 440 came out with AWS and almost 9" in the rear have been the ones to beat. Before the Thundercat we had something called the Wildcat, and it could deal with any sled, except perhaps the Indy 650 when tuned and clutched properly. Minnesota beats Canada is ok I'm saying in nearly every category, except perhaps deep snow. I love ski doos. Still can't believe they put out those early REVs with so little knee from you had to buy pads to not damage your knees. Ski Doo knows better than to try to take on the Thundercat, it's been at the top for so long, it's so far ahead of any ski Doo power wise who cares.

[@KawaRider88]

Who has better reliability?

[@SaskRiderMoto]

I would like to know this as well. looking at getting a couple of sleds for trails and bombing around in ditches/fields.

[@boss-ll9iy]

Wow I didn’t even think Arctic cat would be in second or even first I am in pressed

[@bedlambikes]

boss 101 have you ridden one for a couple hours lately? They’re fantastic.

[@boss-ll9iy]

No I haven’t, but I do ride a summit x 800 146” and that’s a One good ride

[@samarmstrong4328]

bedlambikes I rode a 2019 arctic cat xc race sled last year for a while and idk it was pretty nice ride just it blew up on my friend 1000 miles in

[@fkranbuhl]

Just watched the sled of the year,where the riot represented the crossovers.what gives ,here you say it's not as good as the assault.do you expect us to not notice these discrepancies.

[@MrTjulius]

The xrs is not a 16x1.6, it's 15 inches wide

[@optiqueversatile8104]

Yes choice of 16 X 2.0 or 15 X 1.6 Unbeleivable they got this wrong (as AJ did before) This is the basic 101 stuff

[@lc2nls652]

I ride my 600R Backcountry with narrowed skis on the trail just fine, because the public trail isn't my personal race track...

[@prphrp]

Skidoo renegade v polaris indy xc 137

[@gibsonf06]

go skidoo!

[@alistairbalistair9596]

id sacrifice on trail handling for better deep snow handling any day.

[@taylorreid1739]

Bx xrs handles completely fine on trail

[@bedlambikes]

Taylor Reid fine doesn’t cut it when I’m looking for exceptional.

[@taylorreid1739]

@@bedlambikes if you want an exceptional trail sled then this is the wrong segment. That being said you wont have any trouble keeping up to mxzs or indys

[@bedlambikes]

@@taylorreid1739 I wouldn't buy one of these sleds, mainly because they aren't "completely fine" handling sleds for trail use.

[@CLRacing12]

Shows how good the Axys Polaris chassis is being a 3-4 year old design and still topping the competition..

[@nsa6790]

CLRacing12 or they just hand out thicker envelopes if you know what I mean ;)....

[@njorgnjorg6057]

The Polaris 850 the most impressive 2 stroke made? Please explain how? I’ve talked to multiple dealerships that sell both ski doo and Polaris when I was shopping for a sled. Every time I brought up the 850 and what was better everyone told me hands down the e tec is the way to go. Better fuel economy and oil consumption. I took a Mx and a xcr for a test ride. The patriot motor dose not have what the ski doo 850 has imo. Sorry man I call bs on the best 2 stroke ever comment

[@coledonnelly4406]

Njorg Njorg I’m pretty sure Polaris pays them to say that

[@patriceberard9914]

Drive both and you will understand why!!!

[@njorgnjorg6057]

Patrice Berard I did drive both. I don’t understand how a motor that gets crappier gas mileage, burns more oil, is not as reliable (acc to the dealers I talked to, they are the ones who work on them) and arguably doesn’t has the power like a e tec ( that was my experience anyway. The doo seemed to have more low and mid range. It pulled harder) the most impressive 2 stroke made. That’s a joke of a statement and a classic example of Fake News. Lol

[@patriceberard9914]

Njorg Njorg , my Assault 850 have nearly the same gas and oil consumption than my girlfriend 600 etec. For reliability it’s the same and everything is 18 inch behind the bar. Finally for the power delivery, Polaris is better IMO.

[@njorgnjorg6057]

Patrice Berard ya for the power Like I said it’s arguable but nearly the same, like you said, isn’t better. Acc to the dealership that sell both Polaris and doo told me they seen way more problems with the Polaris 850, but what do they know. Lol. So that’s why I can say the e tec is more reliable because I talk to the people who make a living fixing both of them. I don’t know what you getting at with the 18” thing. So like I’ve been saying how can something be nearly the same, like you said, as the competition and be the most impressive ever made.

[@dawsongagnon445]

Backcountry XRS is king try one and you will find out

[@Dooguy]

2:40 My wife will argue this with you my friend ;)

[@KcYukon]

thats what my wife said to... :)(

[@duckdestroyer2412]

I have looked at arctic cat riots and they look cheap and cheesy. The plastic looks like you would find it making tackleboxes.

[@paullutgen3477]

Of course snow trex will never pick anything but a Polaris

[@bmergeek3353]

Exactly..

[@IronAlchemist17]

Shop Dog sniffing the strawberry Ipone @ 06:19

[@KcYukon]

haha good eye!!!🤣

[@doobyboy21]

My girlfriend and I like to go backcountry

[@rayland8553]

Cat is about $3k less, AC wins!

[@PartTimeYooper]

And that's no joke. For $3k dif, you could improve seat, add some features and still pocket a grand....

[@charlespalmerii4299]

@@PartTimeYooper , exactly! I own one , and the new Engine is kick butt too especially after breakin!

[@PartTimeYooper]

@@charlespalmerii4299 do you have Riot or X? I see you say you ride at 9000 ft. My dealer has Riot X coming in early Feb I could buy but I think Riot is more suited to my riding of 50/50.

[@charlespalmerii4299]

@@PartTimeYooper , I have the Riot. I did get clutch kit for our Elevation , it made a difference.. I think if you get the Riot you will be super Happy with it ... The Handling is Wow on the trails, you will forget you are on a 146. This is coming from someone who use to live back East and did all trail riding there with a 121 track :) . Off Trail, I have been super impressed floats well, and if I do get a little deep , I just hit that Throttle and she pops right back on top.... We have HUGE meadows where I ride , hundreds of acres , So I get a lot of opportunity to test it in the deep stuff ... I have some videos out there shows areas I ride to help you get an idea of conditions I have ridden in. Best Sled I have ever owned and I have owned a number of them over the years ... all brands .. Never felt this confident on a sled before... Has brought my riding skills to another level. I think you will love this engine too , but , you do need to give it time to break in or you will think it is smokey..etc... Think Snow! let me know if you have any other questions...

[@wyattvanguilder2751]

Anyone who hasn't rode an arctic cat doesn't know crap and dont know what a good sled is #countrycat

[@mainetroutwhisperer]

They only show Luke from the waist up to hide his Polaris boner.. Also....pretty sure AC had a cross over before skidoo did..the crossfire...it’s in the name CROSSfire.. ALSO..what’s the big deal with the seat on the riot? You say it’s a mountain seat..is it too small? the Polaris and skidoo seat looks like a legit half dirt bike seat...I have that seat on my high country and love it. Makes 0 sense.

[@opnoob1]

Let me guess, the Polaris wins.

[@adamvonada7011]

Typical snowtrax

[@bedlambikes]

They’re now the best selling 2 stroke sleds made for a reason.

[@technowiz1772]

@@fxnytroxtxFPP 4 strokes are gay

[@brokejokeratv5851]

Polaris:great power good handling terrible reliability

[@Lamelldiff]

Change YTchanel name to PolarisTV.

[@CDX7]

Let’s get this comment section kicked off: SnowTrax Polaris bias at it again. Must be paid off! My friends uncles cousins 850 already blew up! My old F7 Firecat hit 115 on the lake and would smoke these new sleds! Flat landers lol.

[@bedlambikes]

Avenge4386 the ignorance in this post is insane. I’ve never owned a Polaris in my life, but the new Polaris’s are the best sleds in the industry. I’ve ridden them enough to make that decision easily. There is NO bias on SnowTraxs side whatsoever.

[@mainetroutwhisperer]

Avenge4386 dude... absolutely. I’ve been saying this for years In the comments! They don’t compare longevity/reliability, because they never ride the same sled for more than a few days. Go look on marketplace and see how many Polaris/skidoo have been rebuilt. AC still has the most reliable motors

[@CDX7]

@@bedlambikes c'mon man... c'mon

[@super_street_racer5094]

Maine Trout Whisperer yeah of course when you don't sell you are less likely to heave reliability issues lol...

[@oldwrench4213]

Which is why we see more trails being closed. Exploring off trail isn't what land owners want to hear.

[@CJ-rg4qu]

For anyone that is using this for a purchasing decision, don't. These guys are incredibly Polaris biased, just take a look at their previous videos and you'll see that they have a huge Polaris bias. Every side has it's fan boys, and you don't want to listen to a fan boy when making a purchasing decision.

[@289pinto]

Thanks

[@bedlambikes]

Chris I never even owned a Polaris, but they’re currently making the best sleds in the industry. It’s no secret. Ski Doo is a little confused right now with their off trail obsession and their saturation of off trail sled models vs trail sleds models really shows. They are leaving the trail market behind and if you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you. The BCXRS should have a trail front end. Period. The Freeride is nearly the same sled as the BCX, BCXRS with its narrow front end. However even with a 42” stance it’s not the industry standard anymore.

[@supermotohooligans91]

Couldn’t agree more! I’m not the only one that sees it! They like talking up that cheap crap

[@mainetroutwhisperer]

I believe you meant to say “huge Polaris boner”.

[@northernsky6117]

In scandinavia in my opionion the rank is 1. Skidoo 2. Lynx 3. Arctic Cat 4. Yamaha and 5. Polaris. Personally I like their products, but you hear problems from snowmobilers. Well the other brands have them aswell ofcourse. Its also the cheapest and thats why so many probably buy them and thats also the reason you hear from the problems also quote often. Lynx had problems with belts aswell. On bad thing is that Polaris loses its value like dropping rock when you drive it out of the shop unfortunately. Atleast here. But it gives us poor people the opportunity to drive a new sled also ;)

[@caseywhite9133]

I agree with this video. Lot of haters out there. I have rode both the skidoo and the Polaris. I do believe the skidoo is a little quicker. But the Polaris has a better all around experience. Let’s face it if your not happy with any of these sleds there’s something wrong.

[@sleddingfarmer8692]

A crossover or 50/50 sled shouldn't have a full width trail front end. A trail front end SUCKS off trail. The Backcountry, the SKS, the highcountry... Those are the real crossover sleds. The assault is a trail sled.

[@AnonymousPhucker]

Lynx Xtrim RE wins

[@cknucklegall6394]

cant say i agree with anything this guy says! just me maybe!

[@snowtrax]

You absolutely don't have to agree with us.

[@dawsongagnon445]

Skidoos 850 engine is beter

[@wyattvanguilder2751]

"ThE pOlArIS iS tHe LiTeRaL dEfINiTiOn oF a 50 50 CrOsSoVeR." You are the literal definition of a biased person😂

[@wiks101]

Polaris always at the top!!!!