2020 Ford Escape - Auto Start Stop Inop and Parking Brake Automatically Sets In Park - the Fix

[@FordBossMe]

I understand everybody's frustration with the auto start-stop system but I'm going to ask you something to not bring up stopping or deleting or programming the auto start-stop out of your vehicle on this channel I am still a manufacturer technician it would be against any kind of policy for me to show you or tell you how to delete something that is supposed to be functioning on the vehicle so please I respect for me and my job and my livelihood do not ask me that s*** Secondly nobody likes the auto start-stop but I actually don't need to hear everybody's qualms with the auto start-stop it's just a venting bored and I don't want to be that guy somebody else can be that but I want to be the guy that shows you how to repair things and what's going on with things not your counselor or your therapist because you're mad at Ford

[@FordBossMe]

@BeamerMT1979 the point is people don't want to do that and they don't want to have to keep remembering every time they get in the vehicle

[@johnriley1878]

I actually like the auto start/stop. Thankfully I haven't experienced this issue, but if I do, I know I will remember this video and will point it out to my local tech. Love the info you give us Rich. Really appreciate what you do.

[@troublemakingpups5787]

The resources you have for sharing info today to help each other figure out technical issues is wonderful. You blew my mind again with longitudinal sensors and all of that. Thanks for sharing!! 👍🏼 👋🏻🙂🐶

[@patmurphy2472]

So many systems interconnected in these new vehicles. Nice diagnosis Rich.

[@robinyhr]

Had a similar issue on my 15’ Escape, after replace an abs wheel speed sensor. The vehicle was keeping the brakes “pushed” for a few seconds before release them (hill start assist) even on flat level. I found on a forum that needed to calibrate those sensors that you mentioned with an option called “IVD Initialization Sequence” and it worked. Thanks for sharing man.

[@michaelpanorias6692]

I own a 2020 ford escape titanium with 10,000 miles plus. Couple hundred in the parking brake and auto start stop doing the same thing. My street is on a slant so I assumed that the parking brake comes on because the car is not level. But the auto start stop not working really annoyed me because it stoped working . I seen another one of your videos where you said if the vehicles sees to many stop and go's it will cease the auto start stop . I drive literally 5 mins to work and 5 min back every day my fuel economy is 12 miles a gallon. Well I recently got on the highway went about 20 miles and the auto start stop started to function again but after that day it went cold again. If your doing short trips this is the issue with the auto start stop from my experience. Also I smelled my oil stick just to make sure I'm not burning oil and I have a gasoline smell coming from my oil. I use 93 gas because the book says they recommend 91 and above but they display a picture of 87. Your a great tech I enjoy your videos !

[@FordBossMe]

Tyvm

[@BillyWilliamsJr]

My wife's 2020 Corsair has been exhibiting these two exact issues for over a year. Had dealer investigate last year, and they literally said it was normal, and printed me a section of the owner's manual. Even though I was very descriptive about the two issues (particularly that they worked correctly for the first 10K miles or so and then BOTH systems stopped working at the exact same time). Fast forward to this year, and now the dealer has it again and admits the auto start/stop isn't working correctly, but is still trying to claim that the parking brake is working normally (though it hasn't NOT automatically engaged in nearly 2 years no matter of incline, gear selection and brake pressure while parking). They have had her vehicle going on 3 weeks (thankfully they did provide a courtesy vehicle). I've forwarded them this video and hopefully it will help them in troubleshooting.

[@BillyWilliamsJr]

So, I after over one month(!!!), I finally have my wife's Corsair back. I haven't driven home yet, but I did park it and low and behold, the parking brake did NOT engage. First time in almost two years. These are the technician's comments from the invoice: ROAD TEST TO VERIFY EEC TEST -PASSED BCE TEST ON ALL MODULES ·PASSED DCL TEST ON PCM & BCM BATTERY STATE OF CHARGE 30% CHARGE BATTERY 3 HRS RESET BMS -STILL 30% CHARGE OVER NIGHT RETEST -BATTERY PASSED LOAD TEST BUT STATE OF CHARGE WILL NOT REACH 70% REMOVE AIR BOX R&R BATTERY RESET BMS LET SIT OVER NIGHT ROAD TEST -STILL WILL NOT FUNCTION PCM & BCM DCL TESTS BSC -OK 79% PCM FORS LOCKING UP NECESSARY TO REBOOT TOTAL OF 10 TIMES TO GET DCL RESULTS -DRIVER DOOR AJAR FAULTED IN PCM PIDS FOR AUTO STOP/START BCE TETS ON BCM & DOM =PASSED & INTERIOR LAMPS FUNCTION CORRECTLY INSPECT NETWORK WIRING FROM DDM TO BCM & TO PCM -OK REPROGRAM BCM /DDM /PDM & PERFORM PCM CONFIGURATION ·RESET BMS LET SIT ROAD TEST STILL ON FUNCTION OF START STOP PERFORM PIO TESTS AGAIN FORS LOCKS UP DURING TESTING REBOOT NUMEROUS TIMES NO PIDS FOUND TO BE FAULTED PERFORM PM! ON PCM ROAD TEST MONITOR PIDS FOUND INTERMITTENTLY VEHICLE READ SITTING ON SLOPED GROUND WHEN IT WAS LEVEL BCE TEST ON RCM & ABS -PASSED PERFORM ABS IVD CALIBRATION PERFORM BATTERY REBOOT BCE TEST ON ALL MODULES & CLEAR CODES AGAIN LET SIT OVERNIGHT CHECK IN AM -START/STOP FUNCTIONS AS DESIGNED Particularly interesting are the comments about the ABS module. I did forward this video to the service writer but never got a reply. Hmmm...

[@Mountainbaseddweller]

This is great! My 2020 is doing this exactly. I will show it to the dealer, they were a bit flummoxed by it. Thank you.

[@Garth2011]

I'll add this while I'm at it, no need for an automatic parking brake. More clusters and times it will engage when I don't want it to and won't engage when I want it to. Just more to go wrong when a simple design from the past will do just fine.

[@OCtheG]

I’d buy fewer failure points over more features any day of the week!

[@goldentrichomeshydro4260]

Those new escapes look so sweet.

[@ravenbonanza1522]

The newer ones looks like it was copied to the Porsche Cayenne

[@boyboy1987]

Thank you for making this video I really appreciate it and help me so much. I was about to give up until I sent You are video.🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@M4sterT3ch]

Much thanks for the information. Will make it tons easier to diag if I ever run into this.

[@stevejohnson1321]

The hill start assist has helped me out a couple of times, but I would gladly do without it to make the car less expensive. Back in the day, idle was to be set high enough to keep the torque converter engaged. That was more wasteful -- but worked.

[@SonOfJesusChrist777]

I just gived someone at work your KZbin channel name Ford Boss Me. Saving one 2014 Escape at a time!

[@FordBossMe]

Tyvm

[@RhinoXpress]

My auto start stop stopped working on my fusion and I'm perfectly happy with that. lol I hated having to manually turn it off everytime I started my vehicle. Besides that, even though the starter and engine components are designed for auto start stop, I can imagine having it off would extend the life of the starter and engine components, regardless if it was designed for auto start stop or not.

[@jenga1663]

Yea all about money with these people I payed $150 for a auto stop start eliminator so the button stays on system is very dangerous and will get you in a collision eventually also horrible for the starter

[@madog1]

Wow, that's crazy! Thanks Rich.

[@mikeske9777]

I have auto stop start on my car and I actually after a while do not even notice it anymore and actually kind of like it as it is dead silent in the car at a stop. It took me only a couple days with it to get used to it, as if I stop at a train crossing with a train I used to shut off the engine after the vehicles 4 deep were stopped and I just watch and look for the last train car approaches and then restart the engine. Now just roll up and stop and the engine shuts off. start to release the brake and the engine starts up. Its all about fuel saving and habits folks get into. Some folks hate it but after a while it just fades into the back ground and no longer matters to them It has been a annoyance for many but once a person allows them to think about it it saves fuel, pollutes less and a slight lifting of the brake pedal the engine starts up anyway.

[@firstlast---]

I think you would really like a hybrid

[@fordtechlife]

Good info on that one 💯🔧💪🇺🇲🚗

[@terrystrickland9789]

Thanks for the info. Be Blessed.

[@lchavarin]

That would be difficult to fix at home, thanks for the information

[@BeardedFordTech]

Another great video!

[@ceh1927]

My wife's 2020 escape does this sometimes, it doesn't do all the time but we definitely notice it, especially the parking brake thing. Sometimes no matter how flat of a area you park on the parking brake applies, and are local dealership couldn't figure it out and just says it's a safety feature if you park an a angle. I tell them I get that but I'm 10000% sure my driveway is flat, I even did the basketball in driveway to see if it rolls and it didn't lol.

[@FordBossMe]

Bingo pmi IPC and fix

[@petergarofolo9385]

Very informative video. Thank you 👍

[@CARRJ142]

Great Video!, Thanks

[@lutomson3496]

I am surprised you have posted all the problems with the ford explorers especially the transmission and body quality problems like your videos!

[@BusMaster99]

Seems like a non-issue to me. I *want* the parking brake to automatically apply when the transmission is placed in park. The reason for that is because the parking pawl is only designed to lock the output shaft. It was never intended to hold the vehicle, but it seems like people are using it for that purpose instead of also applying the parking brake. I'm a school bus driver and a lot of the buses in the fleet I drive for don't have P on the shifter so therefore parking brake usage is mandatory. We have a couple of buses on the fleet that do have park and when park is selected, the parking brake comes on automatically, but that is intentional behavior. In addition, drivers would be unable to release the parking brake without first shifting out of park. Wish cars had that same exact functionality, where you would be required to shift to reverse, neutral, or forward first before you can release the parking brake.

[@Pitcrw6]

Very informative. Thank you. All this computer run crap takes the shadetree mechanic out of the troubleshooting.

[@sl0907]

Is that Tech msg board on PTS? Or is it somewhere within the main inford login menus? I had briefly heard about it when I went to ford school for one of the certifications, but no one in my shop knows where it is. Thanks.

[@FordBossMe]

Pts

[@sm2775]

Can explain the brake issue recall for the 2021 Escapes and Broncos. Thanks

[@FordBossMe]

The only thing that I know of with it is an ABS recall update

[@waynehiss]

Is there a way to delete autostart stop?

[@FordBossMe]

I can't talk about that stuff on here

[@FixIt1975]

dan m read the video description

[@heatheradammatheson5259]

I have a 2020 Explorer ST, with the auto start stop issue, but I haven't noticed the parking brake activating upon park, but I do have a screen pop up in reverse that says that system is not active for safety. Could that be connected? I plan to contact my local dealer to get this and other issues dealt with.

[@FordBossMe]

There is a reprogram available for yours

[@heatheradammatheson5259]

@@FordBossMe Thank you! I have some other issues that should also be warranty repairs also.

[@zacklihwaak6067]

Hey I have a 2020 same model and I have no light on the dash or radio or emergency light but the start button have light on it . The vehicle is crashed on the side quarter panel . Is this can cause to not have power ? Do I have to change the battery fuse because I did bypass it straight with a battery pack but still didn’t do nothing so I m thinking maybe the battery fuse is still good. Would appreciate some help thanks

[@FordBossMe]

Did you reset the battery monitor sensor

[@lp2565]

Damn.............Impressive

[@FordBossMe]

Tyvm

[@t.hartman1063]

I would like it if this happened to my 2021 Escape. Hate having to turn off stop-start every time.

[@hughbrackett343]

Yep and auto-apply the parking brake. Tell us how to turn it on! Can we whack the longitudinal sensor a few times with a wrench? 😆

[@RhinoXpress]

Mine stopped working and I'm happy lol. I had someone tell me theirs did to until they replaced the battery and it started working again and they were upset. Lol.

[@timkis64]

with all the crazy electronics in vehicles nowdays to do what a lever & a linkage did for 75 years, one begins to believe that ted kazinski wasnt so crazy after all when he wrote his unibombers manifest.the smarter cars are,the less mobile reliability they have & the dumber the drivers become.they think the car will protect them from horrible driving skills.graveyards are still proving them wrong.

[@shook0002]

Not complicated at all! Lol. Good catch. Only thing is you definitely need the IDS for this I’m assuming?? I don’t think Forscan can do it.

[@FordBossMe]

Fdrs The new system and you're right forscan will not work with this or IDs won't work with this

[@jakster1952]

Very cool 😎

[@patrick_9393]

Long gone are the days of manual transmission, basic radio, simple press or pull to apply parking brake. Actually needing to know how to drive because your car ain’t going to do it for you.

[@fordtechlife]

Looks like there is a recall out for this now 20E03 abs reprogram. hrs fun 👊💪👍🔧🚗🇺🇲

[@FordBossMe]

Not for this one

[@FordBossMe]

That's Seperate

[@fordtechlife]

@@FordBossMe read it says auto start stop and park brake issue just did one today

[@baldisaerodynamic9692]

Well the autostart not working is actually a blessing....i hate that feature.

[@christineclarke1615]

is it an electric motor or a solenoid

[@FordBossMe]

It's a motor Idk who cares? Call it a unicorn for God's sake

[@user-fp3gx2ow7p]

You're good!

[@FordBossMe]

Tyvm

[@Worldscheapesthellcat]

Hey man I got no heat at idol it blows cool when I drive it blows warm when I turn it off and on hot it blows hot for a few seconds and back to warm

[@FordBossMe]

Check coolant level first, sounds like you got an air pocket or low on coolant

[@Worldscheapesthellcat]

@@FordBossMe coolant level good heat just stooped

[@Garth2011]

Auto Start/Stop is a joke and should be phased out. It does nothing for emissions except cause the owner more expense in maintenance and its really not the safest idea in the real world.

[@chrisreyes2799cr]

Sooooo tell them to just get a new vehicle? Got it ;)

[@kkovler1]

more features on cars the more of a chance it will break and above all, harder to fix without knowledge of what to do.

[@FixIt1975]

A lot of these "features " are no doubt a result of lawsuits, operator error, customer stupidity. I like to have the driver's door open a little to line a vehicle up on the lift. With any newer vehicle with a rotary knob shifter or push button shift, it will automatically slam the car into park and apply the e brake

[@jonathonkeesey410]

@@FixIt1975 keep brake pedal slightly depressed will prevent that from happing on most cars

[@FixIt1975]

@@jonathonkeesey410 really? Thank you

[@joesshows6793]

Wild

[@Dis-Emboweled]

Escapé!!!