2020 Ford F450 tows 30,000lbs up a mountain!

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[@onecrzyrcn]

Now THAT truck is the right tool for the job. Ford has done a great job with this generation of trucks.

[@derrickwatson3303]

@@kyboy5 stfu

[@carlylady5288]

Yes it a good truck A cowgirl driving one of this

[@I5ZQ8]

I can't be the only one that loves hearing the trucks in heavy tow mode always in the upper RPM range.

[@leroyroutt4791]

I appreciate the way you always study the specifications of the vehicle your reviewing before you drive it. You really take the time to know your stuff. Thanks

[@kylekirchner1163]

The silence from those Ford Engineers makes you think, this guy is our best F450 salesmen ever!

[@tyrekknowles8249]

I cannot wait to be able to get that truck one day

[@mrirace926]

The exhaust brake on the Powerstrokes is unlike anything else. It sounds sooo good!

[@TrevorJonescreator]

After watching a bunch of your vids, just bought a 350 dually yesterday! Take delivery next week. Can't wait. Thank you!

[@wj2791]

I currently drive 2020 F350 Dually 6.7 And ordered 22 350 Dually Limited and waiting. I can change to F450, but my head is giving me so many reason's against it. I do not pull trailer. It is for light hauling. What gear ratio did you get on your 350 Dually? What is your pro's and con's. Do you pull trailer? Would you choose 350 again?

[@pruav]

Yarnell Hill on Hwy 89 in Arizona is an epic drive.

[@mrnobody8540]

Love that drive

[@jeffcampbell5269]

Have the Ford engineers ever said, damn we have to hire this guy as he knows more about this stuff than we do, to you? Another great video, but that shouldn’t shock anyone!

[@JohnDewh]

Probably not

[@Matts000]

Why do I get the feeling that as your filming, your schooling these Ford guys! Lol no doubt about it, you absolutely know your stuff👌

[@seeno1]

Should be a pitchman for ford. Surprised they didn’t offer him a position

[@rossbowman202]

That truck is an absolute beast 💪Ford you did it again 👏

[@identitystolenwhitewashed5071]

As always .

[@mbhgaming7851]

WOW that sounds like a beast when the RPM's get up there!

[@roadglide1142]

The right tool for the job makes it look easy ! 👍

[@bishopgeorge1333]

Wow, man you are having all the fun, I will give my left arm to sit in the back seat, well not really but you get what I'm talking about another great video.

[@ononewheel7]

Such a sweet truck only about a 100,000 bucks 😫😫😫😫😫 Great video really loving the new 2020 super dutys I have a 2015 f350 6.7 and love it!

[@Shottacle]

Great video thank you for taking us along

[@atomictyler]

I also enjoy a firm rear end.

[@RaoulThomas007]

That costs more than this vehicle!

[@doublejump6578]

Love me a real firm rear end also

[@conduit242]

If they ever make another Lethal Weapon, this is what Martin Riggs needs to drive

[@kennethfeld6639]

My 2019 F450 came with a 3" ball and those chain rings

[@michaelbaumgardner9493]

38k combination weight rating. Not bad. Definitely know your limitations though ladies and gentlemen. Also when that heavy DOT is more likely to check you on your knowledge safety overall compliance even though you are not "for hire". Theyll scale you for each axle as well. So know your gross axle weight rating for each axle. Cat scales are handy and less expensive than a ticket.

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

Great video of the F-450 and review JD. You keep on teaching those Ford guys and you just may get a job offer brother. 😄😄😄. Thanks for sharing JD.

[@charlesjohnson3853]

Ordered my F450 Limited a few weeks ago, expected delivery is mid-September... looking forward to it.

[@johnny_truth]

Hey, I know it’s been sometime, how do you compare it to the 350? About what price is a XLT 450?

[@wj2791]

Can you give me some feed back on your F450 Limited? I ordered F350 Dually Limited and waiting. I can always make the change to F450

[@carlosh4721]

That thing is screaming down hill. Plenty of power uphill that’s for sure. 👍

[@jakescott4800]

Carlos H yeah but down hill isnwhere its at

[@michaelfinley9988]

I just traded my 2019 F250 for a 2021 F450. I tow a 14k Grand Design Reflexion, the F250 did ok, but looking forward to towing with my new F450....should be a breeze.

[@powderriver2424]

Frames and front ends on Super Duty’s were alway better on average than other makes, for example tow trucks, when the F350 custom chassis for tow trucks used to be called F450’s in the books back in the late 70’s and 80’s they didn’t say it on the truck but that’s what they were. Even today if I need a work truck I wouldn’t buy anything but a Ford, in my opinion, the suspensions and frames are still better than the competitors until you get into a true commercial chassis.

[@pryme2013]

Until the death wobble sets in.

[@richarddubois5529]

Big Tex is big flex!

[@highjix]

ok, I will be honest, when you started fast forwarding on that decent my heart jumped into my throat, I thought the truck was running away at first.

[@ziggy149]

highjix Jumped into your throat? Really? K. You may want to go to your safe space when you watch these videos. Good lord, dude.

[@bradh7472]

Sounds like a high revving 460 ci. coming down the hill.

[@thagreen72]

u gotta luv💙 those FORDS

[@jermainepittman3125]

Aww man the view of the mountains is crazy.. Lol man you had my stomach is a not when you fast forward. Thru the sharp curves😰 but great handling all that weight going wide when you needed to I like the go pro view. Feels like I'm driving😎

[@kevinkidneyy]

I’m black but I love dually trucks man 🔥

[@identitystolenwhitewashed5071]

That ain't got nothing to do with it lol.

[@zb6618]

I really want to see the 7.3 towing 20k

[@MarkSmith-zt2zl]

I have a local 14% grade. 3 miles long. State park and campground at the top. Seen lots of overheated motors going up and overheated brakes going down. 26 mile detour to go around and come up the "easy" side.

[@mmholling87]

That sounds rough. I think I'll take the long way around lol.

[@VegasGuy1975]

Mark Smith that’s one steep grade! Steepest that I’ve ever climbed and knew what the actual grade was is 9% for roughly 10 miles. It was quite a climb hauling 16,500 pounds up it, but my old 7.3 Powerstroke was happy to do it. I have doubts as to how it might fare of that same grade length was the 14% you noted. That’s a beast killer!

[@JC-dr8ev]

Mark Smith I gotta know where this is? Not doubting you at all... just really wanna know

[@MarkSmith-zt2zl]

@@JC-dr8ev Look up Rickets Glen state park. 487 north. Believe it's a Benton PA address. Northeast PA.

[@timbowhite3159]

Yes It Is A Great Looking Truck & I Would Love To Have One Of Them

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[@KoolCordell]

There is a change to how the engine brake works though not necessarily to it performance. in the 2020 trucks the vanes are controlled with an electronic actuator versus how they were previously controlled which was with a hydraulic actuator.

[@Just_Fishing_TailsTM]

Has anyone asked if the DRW grill will swap over to the SRW trucks? LOL....you know it's going to happen.

[@entreptiles]

My partner and I have been driving an 18 wheeler together cross country since summer of 2008. However, we have never towed with a pickup truck. I've learned so much watching your videos. Buying a 2020 GMC Sierra Denali HD this spring but still deciding what RV we want. Thanks for all of your info/videos.

[@ras57719]

Nice 👍. I staying in Congress AZ, I wish I had known you were here, I would have stopped by.

[@tinysworld1749]

I would love to see this same video looking at the dash. If I can make it work I really want to order the regular cab version, just wish they would offer a dark green again

[@johmmccaslin3911]

7:11 minutes yep absolutely... he just learned this...

[@lesgarten]

Around the 2-3 minutes mark you can see the auto white balance really goofing up here. Never noticed that on anything. You can see it in the colors of the mountains shifting between cold and warm colors. Least I assume that was what was causing it.

[@kirkenstang]

Great review once again!

[@starkgary]

In today's pickup world, massive tow numbers get tossed around in conversation to the point that most people don't have good perspective of how much weight this really is. 30,000 lbs is a staggering amount of weight to put behind a pickup truck and nothing to be taken lightly. It wasn't too many years ago when the only people that pulled that kind of weight were farmers and ranchers, and many times they needed to have the truck in 4wd low in order to generate enough torque to move the load. Casual drivers and weekend RV enthusiasts would be well advised to stay away from extreme weights even if their truck is capable to performing the work.

[@stephenbarabas6286]

30,000 lbs is CDL weight.... But anyone with enough money can buy/drive this.

[@zb6618]

I don’t think they make a 30k camper

[@kain7134]

@@zb6618 Some of the custom Luxe toy haulers are close.

[@mojodixie2596]

I have a 2018 F450 and I have towed 32,000 with it. NO BIG DEAL.

[@brandonmoen3632]

Sure! Way to be safe

[@n1njazx7]

I think that 2020 F450 your driving has a total weight more like 40,000lb. My 2018 F450 King Ranch weighs 10,060 for a full tank of fuel and then said the trailer was 30,000. Just making a note.

[@crutler]

Plymouth Man after looking up the operating weights of the trackhoe and loader they together are 23-24k plus that trailer is 8-10k depending on length. I’d bet that truck weights 9-9500. So gcwr is closer to 42000. But either way there’s no way they’re pulling 30k maybe 31-32.

[@TheRealNeoFrancois]

I'm going to be the guy that says this,yes your not getting high quality interior, but that's because your getting all this power.

[@VetJim]

I might have to trade up to the 2020.

[@chucklohnes7652]

It’s star white now. White platinum tri coat is no longer

[@james2042]

The only issue I have with the new fords, specifically the 350, is the 35,750 towing rating for the dually is that it needs a 4.10 read end with that 1050ft-lbs, vs the duramax which is rated for 35,500 with 910ft-lbs and a 3.42 (both having the same trans gear ratio wise). I get the feeling the new powerstroke is going to be wildly overstressed to get the job done here

[@notafuckinpplperson8233]

James Mastroianni towing with 4:10 vs 3:42 is night and day difference

[@james2042]

@@notafuckinpplperson8233 Truck guys get so wrapped up in rear ends. "Oh this truck doesn't have a towing rear end, it can't tow". It's about ratios and torque multipliers. A 4.10 or 4.30 was needed when your first gear was a 2.90 or 3.10, but now first gears on these 8-10 speeds is in the 4's (the ford/gm trans has a 4.69 first gear) meaning that a new truck with a 3.42 has a much lower first + final gear ratio than old trucks with a 4.30. My point being that the ford needs a 4.10 rear end with a 4.69 first gear to move the weight the chevy does with a 3.42 (which ford can't touch with a 3.55) shows to me that the 6.7 powerstroke is significantly limited in low gears, vs the chevy which isn't.

[@cautionontherun30]

@james2042 chevy is limited in a lot of ways compared to a ford.

[@midnight94387]

The engine be like: Why am I here? Just to suffer?

[@daveb1081]

classic moment of customers knowing more than salespeople

[@stuartmassengale3955]

Very impressive! Did they lower the F-450 any, like they did the other models, or did they leave the F-450 alone?

[@chucklohnes7652]

450 stays the same height from what I heard

[@dr.michaelbennett8597]

Chuck Lohnes correct

[@jamesmclamb3682]

Great video. Thank you. But I say it once again. My biggest complaint with my 2017 450 was the 4.30 rear end. I wish Ford would offer a 3.73; even if it meant a reduced tow rating. For us camper pullers towing 18,000-20,000 lbs., a 4.30 with all this monstrous power is total overkill and unnecessary. I love the look, brakes, and front axle of the 450 over the 350 but in my opinion, the 350 tows campers better on the interstates.

[@carlosmedrano3549]

Get a f350 than, I have an f450 and it's never over kill or unnecessary

[@jamesmclamb3682]

@@carlosmedrano3549 Read my entire post. I like the look, brakes, and front axle of the F450. I forgot to mention the 19.5" fake Alcoas. But I don't want to settle for something lacking major features that I want; especially when spending $80,000-$100,000. If I were buying right now, I'd order an F450 again. But I'd still feel like I had to settle for a 9 versus getting a perfect 10.

[@carlosmedrano3549]

@@jamesmclamb3682 I do agree with you about the fake alcoas and inner steel wheels. I currently have all alcoa wheels on my f450 which I feel that's the way that should come as factory. And factory LED headlights especially for the price this trucks cost. My brothers 25k Honda accord has led's 🤦‍♂️

[@workplaytv]

I’m confused are you towing 30,000 as your title says or is that your gross combined load including the 450?

[@BTBRVReviews]

It's roughly 39,500 combined. The trailer was loaded up to weight 30k

[@workplaytv]

Big Truck Big RV Ok great thank you. I recently posted a video of my 2020 f350 Platinum towing 18k and was very impressed with the power. Towing 7% grade in 8th gear at 2000rpm. I tow 32k with my 17 550 on a reg basis and I miss the missing HP and Torque at times you lose from the 450-550. Good stuff

[@BTBRVReviews]

I enjoyed the power of the new 2020, but the transmission is the real difference maker in my opinion. I felt only a minor difference in power honestly with the F450 since the 4.10 gear ratio dampens the feel at higher RPMs.

[@workplaytv]

Big Truck Big RV Yeah true with the bottom 5 gears being so close it exploded off the line but I do find there is more power in low rpm with the 2020 in 10th then the 19 in 6th

[@doughansens5599]

JD, just curious about the turn radius with the wider front axle on a F450. Have you ever done a comparison of the turn radius of the F350 and F450? I would like to step up to a dually for future load carrying capacity if/when I upgrade my fiver. The turning radius of a crew cab dually has been a hang up, but if the F450 turns tighter, that could be a game changer for me. (Especially since I’m a diehard GM fan!)

[@richarddubois5529]

It’s in the specs of each truck!

[@drfaticus]

FORD is the king of trucks!!

[@maxrr2609]

Good j0b, but I. like my 2017 f350 swd short bed 4x4 with added 50 gallon extra fuel tank and slider fifth wheel hitch...

[@kurtmcmichael2045]

Great video!

[@joemeyer2726]

Read review opinion F450 only if pulling CDL Weight otherwise not worth rough ride, heavy load actually rides smoother with F450, your thoughts?

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Put a water methanol injection system on that thing and it would be absolutely incredible...it completely changed my old F350 Powerstroke.

[@pound4poundbeast]

Another great video

[@laszlovass7326]

I believe you stated previously that those are not "Alcoa" brand wheels since 2017, instead Ford outsourced to a "Chinese" wheel maker. You should call them "Chinese Aluminum wheels" in your videos as Ford does not deserve the "Alcoa" reputation if they are not that. The switch to Chinese wheels really bothers me, maybe others too. I always appreciate your efforts to be very accurate. Thank you for your videos.

[@vdubing01]

Would REALLY love to see a video around the thoughts of buying a used 450 in the $35k-$45k range. Bang for the buck. Lower miles with less features VS higher miles with more features. And would the extra features/ higher packages really be worth it on a truck being used only for camping. Our F250 XL gas gets the job done if we stay out of grades. But it isn't near as comfortable as our F150 king ranch/ grocery getter. Looking to trade them both in for a 450 soon. Do we go XL,XLT for lower miles, or King Ranch with higher miles?

[@Dive-Bar-Casanova]

F450 only accommodates commercial tires that you can't air down if needed. Shame to have to change out those nice rims for a size that does.

[@notafuckinpplperson8233]

Dive Bar Casanova well it's not like it's made for cruzing in the sand dunes.

[@jadesportster]

ONLY 95K!!!!

[@volvomicke999]

Why do you tow so hevy with picups in usa insted of semi?? Is there a financial benifit or is it just becuse it can be done and is cool??

[@Theblindfarmer]

My thoughts on the dodge is they more or less slapped a 3500 badge on a 4500 more or less u know there are difference just making the comment short as possible

[@TravelinOp]

That constant cooling fan would drive me nuts.

[@abram7117]

yeah i would imagine summer time it wouldnt disengage much. not to mention would kill fuel economy. As much as these trucks cost should have a high power e-fan system.

[@alaefarmestatesllc]

Wait till u try to leave ur door open for any amount of time

[@themillionairediy]

Do you have similar test on an F600? I just got one that I had it registered for 55k lb and would like to know more about the truck performance especially breaking going down a steep road like this.

[@alexvarelis4990]

Those Ford engineers were not serious about that 4500 # pin weight. “4500 *cough cough*” 😂 I bet it’s 6k at least

[@georgedoolittle7574]

Tfl truck and "mister truck" on that KZbin channel has some great towing systems for fifth wheels and the hitch.

[@joemeyer2726]

Wouldn’t you agree F450 payload spec wise greater than F350 but legally less because derated to maintain Class III?

[@edwardfast4525]

Any of those trucks being tested the new 7.3 gas engine?

[@BTBRVReviews]

That will be the next

[@edwardfast4525]

@@BTBRVReviews awesome

[@ItsEverythingElse]

I gotta stop watching these truck videos. I want one and I don't even have anything to tow (yet).

[@pryme2013]

They work great for home depot runs for mulch.

[@Redline14]

Great video. How does this beast compare to your 450.

[@brucebaker4462]

Way nicer looking and all around better than them dam dodges.

[@richarddubois5529]

I wander if the rear axle on the truck is with in its 9900 pounds limit?

[@bfarm44]

So it can tow a 16,000 lb boat no issue? Answers my need

[@jsgaither]

With a 4,500 lb tongue weight, are you not exceeding the 14,000 GVWR of the F-450?

[@russellsbikehike1090]

Which is more expensive, the king ranch or the platinum??

[@RC-hm9vg]

Did I hear 5.56 ring gear???!!! Wow!!!!

[@nonrev-m2o]

Wish we could have seen some RPM shots.

[@rynely1]

Question: I have a ‘19 and I use the exhaust brake while towing a 16k lb fifth wheel. What is a safe rpm window to keep it in? Also, I noticed when I’m through breaking and on to accelerating, the exhaust brake holds for awhile as I accelerate. It honestly doesn’t seem that it is good for the engine. I can imagine how nice a ten speed would be using the brake. I’m guessing that you don’t get where the engine is screaming, as much

[@jamesyork6023]

I wonder how the Reg. Cab F450 pickup would do with a bed like a Pronghorn UTD or Knapheide PGND with a transfer tank of fuel and a moderate selection of tools. Would it handle the bed and the pin weight of a 30k load? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@stuartmassengale3955]

How did the truck feel on the bumps? Were you satisfied with the feel of it? Could you tell any difference in the engine sound versus the previous? That's a nice trailer as well, what was the specs on the trailer, looks like it might be a little longer than 40', was it?

[@BTBRVReviews]

Overall the truck felt very similar to my 2017 F450. Shifting seemed a bit more seamless because of the 10-speed. The ride felt identical

[@dr.michaelbennett8597]

Best performance in my 2017 F450 is 6th gear in manual. I do not like the shift algorithm. The literal payload for the F450 is not less than the F350 because the added weight is unsprung. The F450 pickup is a class 4 truck. And, the factory wheels are NOT Alcoa, they are Chinese copies.

[@BTBRVReviews]

I agree with what your saying and have said the same thing in regards to the payload. However, legally you go by the sticker, which is derated to meet Class 3 requirements. Also, the wheels are 100% Alcoa brand wheels. Alcoa has a factory in China as well. www.arconic.com/alcoawheels/china/en/news/releases/news_detail.asp?xpath=management_certification

[@charlie9665]

Thanks JD for the great video on the F-450. I have ordered the new F-450 Platinum with the tow-package and 5-wheel hitch. Looking to get the Solitude 310GK GVWR 15,000. My question is, can the F-450, payload capacity hold a 50-100 gallon Transferflow tank with the pin weight of the RV? Thanks Charlie

[@BTBRVReviews]

You will likely be right at capacity.

[@marcusrussell8660]

I drove one two weeks ago and the steering feels like a worm gear as opposed to my 2019 f-250 Platinum with the tow package. The 450 was much worse keeping it in the lane because it seemed to wander compared to my truck. To me the 450 was not as relaxing to drive. Just my .02. But my truck could not tow 30k.

[@JC-dr8ev]

Marcus Russell what you’re feeling is most likely the deep ribbed, straight tread 19.5 tires on the 450. That feeling lessens as the tires wear down a bit

[@cautionontherun30]

It's the tires. I changed the tires to a f rating all terrain and the cars stays still. The stock tires follow any imperfections on the road

[@kappy12]

Love the videos! Can you tell me what tire pressure your running on those tires? The max 110 cold? What do you run on your F-450? I have a F-450 and there seems to be a lot of confusion on what tire pressure to run on these tires when loaded vs not towing. Thanks

[@CoryFarrar]

What was the weight of the equipment and water was the combined GVWR?

[@avenger007007]

Were in the living hell did those birds go at 3:37?

[@josemurillo1974]

Demon birds

[@lindabillblackley3025]

How is the fuel mileage ?

[@michaelfrank6696]

Do you have a cdl to haul that much weight

[@janiceweigold8626]

Hey JD, I anticipate purchasing an f450, I prefer over kill as well. Since I'm a newbie to towing though, I wanted to start with a 5er no longer than 35'. What is your opinion of the f450 towing a fairly lighter 5er?

[@MsGarymeyer]

Hate that fan noise. If it’s like my 2008 F250 it kicks on at 228 degrees. Too late if you ask me.

[@thomasreyes2857]

The first tractor you guys should have backed it in the other way distribute the weight a little better

[@lelouchvibritannia6851]

The tires look kinda trash tho, they gotta be either all terrain or mud tires

[@ninoinreno]

My apologies if I missed this, but what was the speed and RPM on the climb up the hill with the 6% grade?

[@KMT15]

So basically, you guys are over weight as far as payload on the truck. He said 4,500lbs plus 3 guys is going to be over 5,000lbs minimum. My 18 450 Limited has cargo capacity of around 4,900 lbs which I assume is close to the same on this KR. Now, obviously the truck is perfectly fine from a mechanical standpoint with that weight, but not according to the sticker due to the class 3 ratings. If I remember right, the 450 actually has a 16k rear axle that is just derated to keep it at 14k gvwr

[@farmerjoe8809]

What are the final drive gear ratios between the ten speed vs 17 six speed. Have a 17 350 drw with 3:55 gear. Just trying to figure if the 10 speed would be enough for me to make a trade to the 20. The most I will ever tow would be @20000 lbs.