2020 Porsche 911 Carrera S MANUAL vs 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera S // The $100K Divide

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@8.4_litre_V10
@8.4_litre_V10 4 жыл бұрын
1980s: Automatic gearboxes are a luxury 2020s: Manual gearboxes are a luxury
@kamallb4650
@kamallb4650 4 жыл бұрын
😤
@Omgiamsotriggered
@Omgiamsotriggered 4 жыл бұрын
Not in europe lmao, everything is a manual here. Trust me id take an automatic everyday, and you feel free to take a 1.2 3 cylinder 70 hp manual petrol for daily driving..
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 4 жыл бұрын
Americans: 90% of cars sold on our market for the past 50 years were automatics and almost nobody can drive a manual here. Also americans: wHy dOnT wE gEt moRe MaNuALs??!? No, manual gearboxes aren't a luxury in 2020. They're standard in pretty much all cars pretty much everywhere in the world outside of NA.
@gabrielsousa2405
@gabrielsousa2405 4 жыл бұрын
@Frank cassidy you can make a lot more money trading on forex and crypto or investing on the stock market and probably owning the Carrera
@danielmaccarthy7150
@danielmaccarthy7150 4 жыл бұрын
I actually invest both on stock and crypto but lately crypto is far better than stock
@grivoc
@grivoc 4 жыл бұрын
Daily drive a 997.1 and it never fails to put a smile on my face. I recommend every driving enthusiast try a 911 at least once.
@Superevilfrog
@Superevilfrog 3 жыл бұрын
My 997.1 sleeps during the winter, and I don't take it to work. Both other than that I drive it as much as I can. 16 years and the car still feels fantastic. I was given a Cayenne loaner when I took it into for service. The interior is light years ahead of my car. But when I'm driving it, I really don't feel I'm missing too much. And yes, every driving enthusiast should try a 911 at some point. Even if it is the dreaded 996. One that has been taken care of is still a fantastic car to drive.
@jasonwilmsen6404
@jasonwilmsen6404 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a 997.1 2 years ago to, I also leave it in the garage for winter but 8 months a year it puts a smile on my face everytime I drive the thing! One thing I changed on mine wich is an absolute must is I changed the steering wheel into a 991.2 generation one, I recommend it I really do
@YumboYack2521
@YumboYack2521 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a 997.1 2CS because of your comment
@grivoc
@grivoc 2 жыл бұрын
@@YumboYack2521 what colour? How you liking it?
@YumboYack2521
@YumboYack2521 2 жыл бұрын
@@grivoc loving it! Arctic silver, flies under the radar. What are you driving these days?
@JS-hw8ve
@JS-hw8ve 4 жыл бұрын
Reviewing high end cars and comparing them to their more financially accessible counterparts is a good way to go. You give us the best of both worlds, the cutting edge of today and the hidden treasures on the secondary market. Everyone of those cars was amazing, and you showed appreciation for them all. Well done.
@neelparmar6690
@neelparmar6690 4 жыл бұрын
J S it’s fascinating to see how far cars have come but also highlight some of the reasons why enthusiasts like older cars, e.g. for their hydraulic steering or mechanical simplicity
@JS-hw8ve
@JS-hw8ve 4 жыл бұрын
@@neelparmar6690 I went on a rant the other day about older cars. Not so much that they are better than the technological wonders of today, because they aren't, but because they made us better drivers. There's more to driving than just getting from A to B on the highway fast. These days, lane keep assist is ubiquitous, adaptive cruise has made is to you don't even need to touch the pedals, and you can parallel park by touching a button. I know people who have never been behind the wheel of anything older than a 2005 Ford F-150. They don't know how to drive with no power steering. They don't know about life without being able to hook up their phones to the stereo. It's funny, how so many drivers cry over the looming loss of manual transmissions, when they never really drive on their own anyway. Those old cars made us part of the drive. The immediacy of driving them was not unlike riding a motorcycle. We were part of the road and the world around us in a way we can't be in modern cars. The connection to the road was direct, and there was less safety gear to separate us from the experience. This is why it's great to see the side by side between the modern and the old. It shows how far we have come and what we used to consider state of the art. And Thomas and James did a wonderful job of describing the sensations of old compared to the sleek new experience. Thanks for taking the time to contribute on the way things were.
@neelparmar6690
@neelparmar6690 4 жыл бұрын
J S wonderfully put
@xorbitman
@xorbitman 4 жыл бұрын
@@JS-hw8ve I agree with you. My first manual "sporty" car was a 1985 VW GTI which I purchased new. It was featured in Motor Trend's , "Car of the Year", that year and 2 years later I traded in for a 1987 16V GTI which was the 3rd car in my life up until then that I modified. That thing did not have power steering and didn't need it. It was standard and handled amazingly well and was fast even by today's standards....for a hot hatch. I loved driving it and I lived in Toronto where the roads were amazing compared to Montreal where I moved back to in 1987.
@JS-hw8ve
@JS-hw8ve 4 жыл бұрын
@@xorbitman Good on you, bud. I didn't know what a "hot hatch" was until much later. Where I am from, the sports car guys and muscle car guys had less friendly names for that type of car. My own opinion on a person's car is a lot more welcoming, and comes from understanding where they come from, and what the use of them would be. Asia and Europe are tighter, more compact, with narrower roads, so handling and maneuverability were important. North America has lots of space and vast distances to cross, so power was at a premium, as well as comfort for long, long rides. Then there's taxes and other issues to contend with. As long as your car does what you need it to do, safely, then you have a damn fine car. And I do so love me a good Golf. The platform is far more comfortable than the last Jetta I was in. Was looking at buying one of the 2020 Golf Rs back in Nov.
@asadrahman_ar
@asadrahman_ar 4 жыл бұрын
"1996 wasn't that long ago..." Me, born in 1996, "thank you for making me feel a little less old."
@todorkolev7565
@todorkolev7565 4 жыл бұрын
86 here buddy.. You have no idea what kinda feels are coming! :D
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell 4 жыл бұрын
I was driving an air cooled Porsche in96. Okay, Volkswagen , but driving!
@TheSteinbitt
@TheSteinbitt 3 жыл бұрын
You look a lot older!
@asadrahman_ar
@asadrahman_ar 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSteinbitt well, I'm not tho
@TheSteinbitt
@TheSteinbitt 3 жыл бұрын
@@asadrahman_ar just joking, you’re far too young to even be having such thoughts!
@appaquata
@appaquata 4 жыл бұрын
The intro alone is worth a million subs
@gomolemomabina9282
@gomolemomabina9282 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@aiahlks1
@aiahlks1 4 жыл бұрын
I can see his light sabers reflection from the hood of the 911.
@dr-ok3sn
@dr-ok3sn 4 жыл бұрын
just commenting here because yours is the top comment and to reach more people it’s por-SCHE, not por-sha/po-shuh like they said in the review kzbin.info/www/bejne/f56VloyrfMmgnLs
@aadilfaizal853
@aadilfaizal853 4 жыл бұрын
Ifkr
@_silverword
@_silverword 4 жыл бұрын
@@dr-ok3sn You dont have to say every car brand in the exact accent of the original language. 99% of English speakers have never said Honda or Subaru correctly even once. Stop being elitist lmao
@Dwealdric
@Dwealdric 4 жыл бұрын
"When it came out... it was the PDK... and it was that little nub." *Microsoft error sound* It's shit like this that makes me love you guys just that much more.
@keaixiaomeinv
@keaixiaomeinv 4 жыл бұрын
This.
@uww.v
@uww.v 4 жыл бұрын
The cinematography after the intro isn't less than that of a show with a multi million dollar budget, great job guys 👏. You guys are under rated even at 800k subs.
@natelan69420
@natelan69420 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! 800k+ subs! I've been watching since 100k+! So exciting to see my favorite automotive YT channel doing so well!
@k.almohammadii
@k.almohammadii 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@almuliman
@almuliman 4 жыл бұрын
I kept thinking Top Gear (late May/Clarkson/Hamster). Beautifully done.
@Rommy456
@Rommy456 4 жыл бұрын
Gears & gasoline are way better and way more underrated
@friggincanvee
@friggincanvee 4 жыл бұрын
I often wonder how Doug has as many subs as he does.. this is just so much more entertaining and informative. Doug just goes "...steering is so precise!" or not, and that's about as deep as it gets.
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 4 жыл бұрын
The 997.2 is my favorite generation of the 911.
@jonathanfernandez4430
@jonathanfernandez4430 4 жыл бұрын
James: "Ah, 911 day!" Thomas: (nervously starts pulling at his collar)
@jamesengelsman9369
@jamesengelsman9369 4 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@Pipodecatan
@Pipodecatan 4 жыл бұрын
James did 911
@brandonmatsumoto5980
@brandonmatsumoto5980 2 жыл бұрын
That $60k S is now sitting at $75-80k a year later.
@SkyKasha
@SkyKasha 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia they’re $160,000-$200,000.
@unluggylounge674
@unluggylounge674 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkyKasha what??? 997.2 carrera S for that price? in NZ they're average around 70-90k for a manual and lot less for an auto.
@danhall5761
@danhall5761 2 жыл бұрын
@@unluggylounge674 yeah aus is nuts, I’ve moved here from London and they’re about 5x the price 🤣
@michaelrodriguez4566
@michaelrodriguez4566 2 жыл бұрын
I hope prices go down soon -__- I can afford a 60K car not a 80K one
@dBsdecibels
@dBsdecibels 2 жыл бұрын
Back down to $60k now! I'm looking for one now!
@willhowe3070
@willhowe3070 4 жыл бұрын
idk why i’m watching this as a 15 year old with $43.62 cents to his name but here i am
@williamwilson7857
@williamwilson7857 4 жыл бұрын
because u can dream better than anyone and before you are 18, if you start imagining now, you can have whatever car you want, but you gotta want it without compromise
@J.Wolf90
@J.Wolf90 4 жыл бұрын
Put down the games, focus on school, and you'll have a porche before you know It!
@williamwilson7857
@williamwilson7857 4 жыл бұрын
@@J.Wolf90 School ? What school does teach about money ? Nothing ! Study Bob Proctor
@willhowe3070
@willhowe3070 4 жыл бұрын
William Wilson yes sir! that 911 won’t pay for itself
@ericdavis4469
@ericdavis4469 4 жыл бұрын
You are starting at the right place. You can have anything you can dream, got get it!
@timiles9013
@timiles9013 9 ай бұрын
Made my day guys, i am 61 i had a 1995 993 and a 2007 997 C4 i cry every time i think of the day i sold the 993. Great job, love watching your show !
@danielcano5569
@danielcano5569 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they can talk for 22mins about how the car feels. Keep it up guys! Best channel out there
@713vinh
@713vinh 4 жыл бұрын
The 997.2 is the stuff of legend. It still retains the visceral experience and refine enough to make it a daily driver. It will go down in history as a highly sought after car and has shot up in value.
@AlainLesage
@AlainLesage 4 жыл бұрын
The 997 was so sleek ! Especially the early ones, and without ginormous wheels introduced with 991. Love it.
@user-ve9tu5rv6e
@user-ve9tu5rv6e 4 жыл бұрын
Alain best looking post 993 911 in my opinion
@Corvolet5
@Corvolet5 4 жыл бұрын
By far the best (looking) modern 911. Still fast by today's standards, and all variations could be sold with a manual transmission. What's not to like?
@Moonrocket59
@Moonrocket59 4 жыл бұрын
@Collidiscope you can buy a NA 991.1 manual
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I feel like the 991.1/.2 chassis doesn't get enough love... To me, that gen also feels pretty lively and engaging, while balancing both digital and analogue, which the analogue part does take over for the MOST part of the car, not entirely. Yeah, it misses the Hydraulic steering, but still has a very confident EPAS rack. Though, it would be wonderful to see Porsche returning to Hydraulic power assist racks.
@SkylineLofe
@SkylineLofe 4 жыл бұрын
@@rahulmandala4930 unpopular opinion? Mate, if anything, the 996 gets no love.
@sachemrock
@sachemrock 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review guys, I love these new and old comparisons of these iconic cars. A Boxster and/or Cayman version with this format would be awesome also.
@thoma4z710
@thoma4z710 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail and title: I wish they can review an aircooled 911 When I saw the 993: YEEES, LOVE YOU GUYS
@J.Wolf90
@J.Wolf90 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail I couldn't help but think about those porche SUVs and wonder what's next? A Lamborghini minivan? A Ferrari station wagon?
@andrewstevens4475
@andrewstevens4475 4 жыл бұрын
J. Wolf oh come on, those would be badass
@BananasananaB
@BananasananaB 4 жыл бұрын
It's too bad they didn't get in the 993 though. I was waiting for them to do that since they introduced it in the feature.
@connorcook5769
@connorcook5769 4 жыл бұрын
@@J.Wolf90 There kind of already is a Ferrari station wagon. The FF/GTC4 Lusso
@robbielee5485
@robbielee5485 4 жыл бұрын
I really love when you guys do the new vs old comparisons!! So informative!
@Azizani
@Azizani 4 жыл бұрын
5:25 “One of the only issues that I have with this car, is that two things.” Yup, makes sense Thomas.😂👍🏽
@Braydenplaysallday
@Braydenplaysallday 4 жыл бұрын
Each gauge is its own issue I guess 🤣
@nothing9271
@nothing9271 3 жыл бұрын
Haha Oh my God you're so smart your mom and daddy must be proud of you
@fcorivers
@fcorivers 4 жыл бұрын
"911 day" "Is a good day" I'd bet.
@mikewazowski7613
@mikewazowski7613 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 840,000 subs fellas. Been watching since it was just Thomas doing his solo thing on the channel and it was great then, now it's another level of great with the addition of James. Continued success fellas, and i can't wait for you guys to hit the 1,000,000 mark.
@Csuarezftw
@Csuarezftw Жыл бұрын
2Milly+ now pretty incredible!
@ne0nZchr0me
@ne0nZchr0me 4 жыл бұрын
That intro is the culmination of the best of classic and present youtube... that clip should be on trending & triple your subscriber count quite literally
@porscheguy09
@porscheguy09 4 жыл бұрын
I was 20 when the 993 came out and remember it being the coolest 911 I’d ever seen. Especially the Turbo. A classic for sure.
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that well maintained, low mileage 997’s are now keeping pace price-wise with the newer 991s should tell you what enthusiasts think is the better car. 😉
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 2 жыл бұрын
it tells which one is still in production and not much else. to reach the conclusion you did, you have to come back to the newer ones in 12 years.
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 2 жыл бұрын
991s aren't/weren't in production at the time of OP's writing. They're comparing the 997 to 992.
@joels7605
@joels7605 Жыл бұрын
I think the 997s are the prettiest. That was peak 911 in terms of looks. They've gone downhill a bit since then.
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 Жыл бұрын
@@joels7605 Agree that 997s are pretty cars but for me the 964s were peak 911 design.
@michaelwilliams5506
@michaelwilliams5506 Жыл бұрын
​@@thedudeabides1443interesting. For me it's either a 993 or a long nose 911S
@kwk43
@kwk43 4 жыл бұрын
Okay James, that was a REAL bad try on Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, but I'll give you a pass for being nice to the Porsche :)
@ComedyPlug2
@ComedyPlug2 4 жыл бұрын
Dopplküpplungsgötriebe
@minimalmo
@minimalmo 4 жыл бұрын
xD I had a good laugh. Einen Personenkraftwagen mit Doppelkupplungsgetriebe und Frontscheibenheizung bitte^^
@igorgerzen297
@igorgerzen297 4 жыл бұрын
Doppel[geffif?]götriebe?
@ComedyPlug2
@ComedyPlug2 4 жыл бұрын
Minimal MO am besten noch mit: Abgaskrümmer Abgasturbolader Anhängerkupplung Anlasser Antriebswelle Autobatterie Bremsbelag Bremskraftregler Bremssattel Bremsscheiben Einspritzpumpe Einspritzventile Glühkerze Kältemittelkondensator Katalysator Keilriemen Klimaanlage Klimakompressor Klimatrockner Kraftstofffilter Kraftstoffpumpe Kühler Kupplung Kupplungsscheibe Kurbelwelle Ladeluftkühler Lambdasonde Lenkgetriebe Lichtmaschine Luftfilter Luftmassenmesser Nockenwelle Ölfilter Ölwanne Partikelfilter Servopumpe reparieren Stoßdämpfer Trommelbremse Ventile Wasserpumpe-Kühlmittelpumpe Zündkerze Zündspule Zylinderkopf Zylinderkopfdichtung
@Four-zp8jf
@Four-zp8jf 4 жыл бұрын
@@ComedyPlug2 schön alphabetisch geordnet
@coreykononchuk
@coreykononchuk 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, that intro (after the behind-the-scenes, of course) was AMAZING! Great work!! Wish I could afford a 997.2 but at a tad over $30k USD I got a 997.1 Carrera S instead, and it's still phenomenal!
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 4 жыл бұрын
how the f come german car is cheaper in us than in europe this is so fking unfair ! 😢
@rabulc
@rabulc 3 жыл бұрын
😍
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about buying a 997.1 S. What are your thoughts on the car?
@coreykononchuk
@coreykononchuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@iluvcakes19 brilliant cars! I've had two now for about two years with each. The only thing that sucks about them is the fear (mostly overblown) surrounding the IMS bearing and cylinder bore scoring. Generally speaking, if the car is regularly driven, it's probably fine.
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreykononchuk dope! Great summation. I saw a really inexpensive 2005 recently that got me thinking. I really don't need the car but basically it's cheaper than buying a new or used 86/FR-S, so I could essentially use it as a fun beater. Only thing is consumables and maintenance don't make sense in that capacity. Again, I really don't need the car but damn I low-key want it (also, rather, in comparison, I'm putting the 911 against a 2001 RT/10 which would be a completely different and rad experience).
@nickr.967
@nickr.967 4 жыл бұрын
Starting to get some serious Top Gear / Grand Tour vibes on that intro...
@B00st1o
@B00st1o 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing the way the intro was made was hilarious. I think we speak for all of us when I say, we love you guys. Thanks for your hard work and dedication and keep up the amazing work! 👍🏾👍🏾
@nyasha1988
@nyasha1988 4 жыл бұрын
10:36 "Do it a different way... First time!" I caught that 😂
@andyknyc
@andyknyc 4 жыл бұрын
James and Thomas, keep up the the production (video, planning, sound, sound, etc.) it shows. Your approach is SPOT ON and it isn't chosen by folks like me only for the subject, but because of the delivery. Well done. One of your best deliveries ever.
@dien7428
@dien7428 4 жыл бұрын
Intro is just 😂
@ronf28
@ronf28 4 жыл бұрын
my 997S still puts a smile on my face 10 years later.
@Zygrene
@Zygrene 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this comparison. I just bought a 997.1 C2 sight unseen and haven't even driven it yet. This video makes me look forward to that day even more.
@kikiblue94170
@kikiblue94170 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys !!! I am 911 addicted (driving 997.1c2) and was feeling all your words and symphony 🤪. Great moments always with you !! Thanks
@leadtime8671
@leadtime8671 4 жыл бұрын
I had to pause the video 10 seconds in so I could get more comfortable so I could enjoy the vid to its highest potential
@increase9896
@increase9896 4 жыл бұрын
did you have one off the wrist as well? same here mate.
@shaunleecollins778
@shaunleecollins778 4 жыл бұрын
Just to add, the Porsche 997.2 Carrera S does 0-62mph in 4.5 seconds (so 0-60mph in 4.3 seconds) and not a “hair over 5 seconds” as stated in the video. 😎 Love the video; great to see a MANUAL 992! The throw of the gait when changing looks so tight and precise!
@desiday7070
@desiday7070 Жыл бұрын
Yes I noticed he got that wrong.
@ineshtandon3304
@ineshtandon3304 4 жыл бұрын
I really really love this series of old vs new! Please please keep them coming! And I really really hope you guys hit 1M soon!!!
@tomlabarbara6277
@tomlabarbara6277 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review guys! I have a 2012 911 997.2 and love it! I find myself watching this video over and over!
@JuanCarlos06
@JuanCarlos06 4 жыл бұрын
6:10 "it's like if you played beethoven night symphony in one second. Ehh" too funny lol 🤣😂
@305_zb6
@305_zb6 4 жыл бұрын
Foreal tho🤣🤣🤣
@ajunta2270
@ajunta2270 4 жыл бұрын
9th* yeah that was hilarious
@dragosilie9671
@dragosilie9671 4 жыл бұрын
Man if I had the money I would buy any of those Porsches tomorrow. This channel is brilliant, guys you deserve all the respect for your passion and work 🙏
@jasvinder5169
@jasvinder5169 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite automotive channel. Now topgear comes 2nd for me.
@tomrobinson9388
@tomrobinson9388 4 жыл бұрын
J M you should check out carwow Mat Watson is funny af. That being said, these guys are absolutely awesome.
@jasvinder5169
@jasvinder5169 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomrobinson9388 yeah they're good too, matt and yannie just rock
@jasvinder5169
@jasvinder5169 4 жыл бұрын
@@ethancaine1646 true
@alalal123421
@alalal123421 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomrobinson9388 carwow and mat are great but throttle house goated rn
@Magnetorheological
@Magnetorheological 4 жыл бұрын
"1996 wasn't that long ago" Thanks for making feel better about my age, James! :)
@benchaggaresmusic
@benchaggaresmusic 4 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing video! You guys should do another like this with the F8, 458, and F355
@silversurfer3636
@silversurfer3636 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, Ben they should stick to real sports cars, not tourist hot rod's!
@RennSpd
@RennSpd 2 жыл бұрын
From a 992 daily driver, this is an awesome review even a year later! I also love the “we’re reviewing the 997, but imagine in the 90’s when you could get a 993….forget about the 996 that doesn’t exist” mentality, perfect
@consti9641
@consti9641 4 жыл бұрын
3:11 You gotta hate American cars for those ugly bumpers
@RockClass101
@RockClass101 4 жыл бұрын
You can buy the euro bumper to fix the ugliness 😊
@305_zb6
@305_zb6 4 жыл бұрын
Go to 6:14
@Parker-time
@Parker-time 4 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to cry, look at the U.S. spec Diablo. Especially the passenger air bag.
@andregoncalves5200
@andregoncalves5200 4 жыл бұрын
@@Parker-time I think the front bumper on the Countach is worse.
@Lukas-hz6nt
@Lukas-hz6nt 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, this video is insane qualitiy, I enjoyed every second (as usual) 👌🏼
@Jerem3iah
@Jerem3iah 4 жыл бұрын
These guys need 1 million subs. At the very least. So much hard work!
@anesennaidoo5279
@anesennaidoo5279 Жыл бұрын
Back here after 2 years to say that this channel deserves all the success it has received.
@Modern.Motoring
@Modern.Motoring 4 жыл бұрын
That intro scene...sooooo good!
@AutoRevArg
@AutoRevArg 4 жыл бұрын
This has become my favorite car channel. Cheers from Argentina
@protege2k
@protege2k 4 жыл бұрын
You guys have really stepped up the production value. Love it ! Reminds me a lot of top gear UK.
@ckneasel
@ckneasel 4 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves way more subs than it currently has... Great production, and entertaining as fook...
@ivanamoako-andoh8624
@ivanamoako-andoh8624 4 жыл бұрын
That intro was amazing. I fell in love with my dream car all over again. You guys killed it with this video🔥
@klausroethel5961
@klausroethel5961 4 жыл бұрын
You guys GET IT ! Congratulations on perfectly describing the feel of driving these two cars !
@blombardo83
@blombardo83 4 жыл бұрын
Best introductions on KZbin!!!
@alangil40
@alangil40 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 997.2 Carrera 4S manual and I have two friends with 991.2 Carrera S cars. I live at altitude so my power deficit to those cars is even more exaggerated. I admit I sometimes want another 50hp or 60hp in my 997.2 and I am jealous of how fast their newer cars are. I also appreciate the extra refinement of their newer cars many times as the road noise, harshness and interior rattles are the biggest 997.2 drawbacks. But at the end of the day, there is something just intangibly more engaging for me in the 997.2. When I am out for a spirited drive, I love that raw, small feeling, more visceral experience I get in the 997.2. I feel like the 991.2 and by extension the 992 is a bit "too modern" which is great, but I wanted a 911 specifically for that old-school analog feel. So I am sticking with the 997.2. (I have a twin turbo BMW - also 6-speed manual- for my power rush, plus my Model S P90D). I also highly recommend the harder to find 'full leather' option which the car in the video did not have, it helps the slightly more dated interior feel more upscale and classic. Lastly, I have seen the 997.2 tested 0-60 at 4.5s for the manual and 4.3s for the new at the time PDK.
@oliverthemog3525
@oliverthemog3525 4 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled on your channel and specifically this vid. Simply fantastic! Love the production quality and chemistry between you all. Keep up the great work!!!!!
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 4 жыл бұрын
The AeroKit really improves the 992's look - breaks up the bigness.
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 2 жыл бұрын
It's UGGs
@FATTYDH216
@FATTYDH216 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are one of the finest, funniest , easiest watching pair of Petrol Heads on KZbin . Brilliant stuff again . Keep it up . Great Vids great channel . Big Fan !
@charlestondarwin
@charlestondarwin 4 жыл бұрын
You guys upped your game with the camera angles. It looks a lot more like a Top Gear episode now vs a KZbin channel production. And that's a good thing. Impressive!
@chrisc3202
@chrisc3202 4 жыл бұрын
This vid gets it. And, if you want the most incredible Porsche, get into a '14-16 Cayman 6mt. It is the zenith of Porsche that is affordable for normal humans.
@DAPPERDANMEMEO
@DAPPERDANMEMEO 4 жыл бұрын
Almost. Second gen 997/987s. Pinnacle. After that, beautiful cars; less Porsche looking and steering. Just my opinion. Carefully friends
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 4 жыл бұрын
Word. I have a 981 S so I am a bit biased...
@a.c.e.7568
@a.c.e.7568 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the 993 series was the last of the real Porsches. I have a 991.1 GTS but also a 993. If I had to sell one of them and I don't, the 991.1 would have to go. Both of them are manuals.
@gpatrick52
@gpatrick52 4 жыл бұрын
I still don’t know why you guys don’t have 4 million subscribers by now!!! Best car channel on KZbin!!
@shadi07191
@shadi07191 4 жыл бұрын
I would take the 997.2 over the 992 every day. The 997 is one of my favorite 911, there is just the 993 on the same level, but way more expensive.
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 Жыл бұрын
I love the silver 997 Carrera S and the "Arena red" 993 as they are so pure and unadulterated. I've had the pleasure of riding in a few older 911 Porsche's over the years and I can say with absolute certainty that the older air cooled cars are just so much better. I have a uncle in California with a beautiful 911 SC targa. The best "modern" 911 is a RUF 911. Great video. The passion really comes through. Thank you.
@Kruzz143
@Kruzz143 4 жыл бұрын
Yupp, that's a good intro 👍🏻👍🏻.
@brandonthiessen4729
@brandonthiessen4729 Жыл бұрын
Right after the intro the quality was hollywood level you guys are insane congrats on now having 2.51 million subs
@lucaseduu
@lucaseduu 4 жыл бұрын
Who's here mainly for the "and I'm James" line?
@dannymartial7997
@dannymartial7997 Жыл бұрын
“We need production value!!” Meanwhile, Doug Demuro with an iPhone on a tripod: “Thhhhhhhhisssssssssss”
@bdbrinkley5504
@bdbrinkley5504 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take both...But Love the 2010, 911 naturally aspirated engine !!
@marcgerges1380
@marcgerges1380 2 жыл бұрын
The review of various era 911's is awesome, what a treat. Thank you
@Your_disney
@Your_disney 3 жыл бұрын
Just find you guys today. watched already about 10 video's on your channel today, just love how you both work together and interact with each other. Keep up the great work. BTW, Porsche 911 is my favourite car, but sadly can't afford these beautyful cars.
@jimmyjones5796
@jimmyjones5796 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best car channels out there. I just now found it and wish I knew about you many moons ago. Keep up the great work!!!
@jokensy101
@jokensy101 4 жыл бұрын
That intro reminds me of that old Top Gear episode of the original Lambo Aventador! Awesome! 👍
@WhereBrentWent
@WhereBrentWent 4 жыл бұрын
Good golly gosh. The quality of this introduction slots somewhere in-between "The Grand Tour" and UK's "Top Gear" by every discernable measure. Stunning. The sky's the limit fellas!
@sarang1316
@sarang1316 4 жыл бұрын
You guys clearly deserve millions of subscribers
@GoofieNewfie
@GoofieNewfie 4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying! I tell everyone about these guys.
@sarang1316
@sarang1316 4 жыл бұрын
Me too😅
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 2 жыл бұрын
1:49 I’m not going to lie, i love watching throttle house tackle Canadian cities
@timothycoyne5874
@timothycoyne5874 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys!! Love all three of these 911s, and hope to be able to afford one someday.
@dcarts5616
@dcarts5616 Жыл бұрын
The 996 and 997 are the perfect years for Porsche. Like freedom in Canada and America, I miss those models.
@Mental_Fortitude
@Mental_Fortitude 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll be so pleased for you guys when you hit a million subs. You really deserve it 👍🏼
@pressstart1490
@pressstart1490 3 жыл бұрын
This comment aged like fine wine
@Mental_Fortitude
@Mental_Fortitude 3 жыл бұрын
@@pressstart1490 I am now so pleased
@gottawatch1932
@gottawatch1932 4 жыл бұрын
I loved y’all’s energy and banter. I have test drove a 997.2 2008, tiptronic, and accidentally hit the tip and knocked it down a gear going into a turn. I didn’t like the tip. The 2010 manual is the ideal car for me and price. I love this review because that’s the great thing for Porsche, their older cars are just as sought after as their new ones. Keep up the good work guys .
@ianrivaldosmith
@ianrivaldosmith 2 жыл бұрын
997.2 doesn’t have tip, it has pdk. 997.1 has tip.
@konliner9286
@konliner9286 3 жыл бұрын
The 997 is the last generation of 911 where the body is compact.
@mominWin
@mominWin Жыл бұрын
The more I’m watching TH, the more I feeling that ‘THIS CHANNEL DESERVES MORE SUBSCRIBERS’. Keep doing these good works, Thomas and James. 🎉
@stuartstlouis8260
@stuartstlouis8260 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought Porsche were great cars but didn’t really LIKE them... I think this video changed my mind.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 4 жыл бұрын
I dont like their pricing, especially 911, panamera and other stuff is actually pretty affordable, but with 911 you pay like 20% tax for it's name
@oheha6058
@oheha6058 2 жыл бұрын
1 year later and they’re at 1.98 million subs totally deserved..this channel is GOATED
@aquahellz8050
@aquahellz8050 4 жыл бұрын
That Intro though🔥🔥🔥🔥
@zhnkbr
@zhnkbr 2 жыл бұрын
feels like this video came out just yesterday, but now I come back and its been 2 years! What!? 800k?? now you guys are at 1.2 mil! amazing!
@ceboz
@ceboz 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I love this channel so much!!!
@JM-it2zo
@JM-it2zo 4 жыл бұрын
Intros like that is why you guys deserve over a million subs!
@KM2001
@KM2001 3 жыл бұрын
Oh what 1 year can do in terms of pricing. Good luck trying to find a 997.2 S manual for $60k in 2021.
@s.gharavi1614
@s.gharavi1614 9 ай бұрын
It'll be under $40k in 12 months. 😊
@KM2001
@KM2001 5 ай бұрын
How's that working out? Closer to double $40k at this point and only rising.
@talosiv4927
@talosiv4927 2 ай бұрын
A really sweet comparison! Loved it, and many thanks. Makes me miss my 997.1 all over again.
@BecksDrives
@BecksDrives 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always guys. 997 is my choice too for that sweet naturally aspirated flat 6 sound.
@NinjahPenguinZ
@NinjahPenguinZ 4 жыл бұрын
"1996 wasnt that long ago" Literally 24 years
@markweisgram155
@markweisgram155 4 жыл бұрын
Essentially a quarter of a century 😁
@J.Wolf90
@J.Wolf90 4 жыл бұрын
It's going to be 2100 before people stop thinking that the 19 hundreds was yesterday lol
@r3fotzirx
@r3fotzirx 3 жыл бұрын
@@markweisgram155 Thanks for making me feel old lol
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider Жыл бұрын
i remember in 2009, i thought that used porsche 911 prices would plummet permanently, and that the middle class of america/canada would rise. boy was i wrong.
@pierceyu4546
@pierceyu4546 4 жыл бұрын
That intro gave me top gear vibes man 😭😭
@MrAshton75
@MrAshton75 4 жыл бұрын
James, completely agree with the Golf GTi analogy..you want a super speed capable everyday car that will never let you down 👍
@MelvinKhosa
@MelvinKhosa 4 жыл бұрын
Throttle House >>> The Straight Pipes, Doug Demuro, Redline Reviews. Fight me.
@vipul_singh
@vipul_singh 4 жыл бұрын
For me, the 'gold standard' is Harry's Garage. Also, Jay Leno's Garage, when he is reviewing his *own* cars.
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 4 жыл бұрын
Vipul Singh yes! Leno's garage is the Original KZbin car show. I love when he does his own cars.
@LordManhattan
@LordManhattan 4 жыл бұрын
How could you forget Hoovie? PREPOSTEROUS
@ThisIsBrendon
@ThisIsBrendon 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are the Canadian version of Top Gear... entertaining and informative. Love it!
@danielmad
@danielmad 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be my favourite old vs new! But there are design changes in the 992 I wish they would have left on the table. Such as the gloss black parts on the exterior. Also, I'd take the 997 hydraulic steering in a 911 any day. But that 993 wins in my books.
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 2 жыл бұрын
Eh... 993... Would rather have 964.
@Inazuma68
@Inazuma68 2 жыл бұрын
Driving a 996.2 GT3 for 2 years now. Absolutely love that car 👌🙌
@H0901-l4u
@H0901-l4u 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that intro cinematic was mint!
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