2020 Wonder RTB on 2020 Ford Transit Gas Chassis Walkthrough | Leisure Travel Vans

[@catyuracka2792]

Thanks so much, Eddie. Hubby and I are contemplating becoming full-timers post-pandemic so I'm spending the isolation time researching everything possible (I subscribe to the theory that one can actually learn a lot from others without having to actually experience the sting of the lesson yourself!) Like your wife, I fell in love with the Leisure Wonder right out of the gate and try as I might, I can't find anything else that comes close to it as far as storage capacity or meeting my minimum necessary creature-comfort level in a B or B+, especially considering it will become our "tiny house" for hopefully the next decade or so. Your tour with the mechanic was really helpful, especially for a right-brained, kinesthetic learner like myself. Will be catching up on your videos and then following intently in hopes of learning all I can before we even find our rig, and avoiding every misstep you make in the future! Thanks so much for sharing your RVing life lessons! - Cat

[@janiec5185]

Looking forward to your videos! We just put a deposit down on our wonder, see you on the road in 2 years!

[@cubemissy]

It’s such a smart thing to tape this for later! There’s no way you’d remember everything...

[@joeyng1282]

The interior is really delightful.

[@lynngibb8093]

Thank you to the young man for taking the time and patience to explain how everything works some folk are theory some folk are practise he deserves a pay rise just saying :) .

[@fan889]

I cant wait for you to drive this to tour the world. Enjoy

[@nicolesylvester5949]

We have a 2021 RTB on order in denim. It was great seeing it from a different perspective since we have never been in one. Thanks for posting this!

[@rogerkershaw376]

Thanks. Very much appreciated this walkthrough by the hand-off guy instead of a sales pitch.

[@donaldtharp]

Thanks for sharing your walk through. I learned a lot. Awesome RV!!!!

[@caroledowney6908]

Great idea to tape this for future reference!

[@DCGULL01]

Thank you for sharing this, I too am interested in the 2021 Wonder RL- the same video that put you & your wife over the top. We were Unity FX fanboi's 'til Deano went a 'lil cray-cray over the 2021 RL. I believe that LTV's B-Van heritage is what gives them a leg up on space management, multi use utility and elegant space solutions. They certainly pack a whole lot into an otherwise tiny space, while making it feel light and airy. I hope that it exceeds all of your expectations- very excited for you!!!

[@hikerhobby1204]

David C. Gulliver : Hi! I’m looking at an RL too, however, I don’t think it has the garage like the RTB. Did you notice that or am I cray cray? Thank you!

[@DCGULL01]

You are COMPLETELY fine. Deano is cray- cray, and- possibly my wife & I. However, a 2nd opinion is needed. Rear basement, not positive, but- I don't think it does. I looked through the video (a little) and didnt notice it, nor was it mentioned... that would be having a cake & eating it too- an undeserved bonus...just saying.

[@hikerhobby1204]

David C. Gulliver : Thank you! Happy week!

[@talleysartstudio]

This is the one I want.... He is amazing..

[@JD-kf2ki]

Nice choice. I think Leisure Travel Vans is the best RV company in North America. Nearly catch up the top European counterparts.

[@Itsjoma1]

Nice! I have the 2019 Wonder RTB almost exactly the same. Thanks for the walkthrough..I didn't have the foresight to film mine.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

You are welcome Sharlene. The Tech said that most people don’t record it, but wish they did after the fact....so you are definitely not alone there.

[@jmdminiaturehorse63]

The video has great quality

[@DeltaGen42]

Just a tip. When you put the awning legs in, once inside the channel, you should extend them again as far as they go to stop them from moving around.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Great tip! Thank you for that. Any other tips that you can think of? I appreciate how the RV community is so open to sharing best practices.

[@DeltaGen42]

@@TheScenicExplorer Still going through the video :) Another thing I noticed is, the Truma control panel, the antifreeze option he pointed out is not installed by default, but has to be ordered separate from Truma. From the factory, that setting won't do anything.

[@robertjones6324]

Not bad for an "on the spot" video, done quite well. You show a lot about the RV.

[@randaloopy]

Very informative vid. Thanks much. What's the all-in price?

[@twistedkitty1958]

Enjoying your videos!

[@dianabalto]

What a great idea of filming the walk thru. Where did you buy it ? In the US or Canada, The guy did a good job in explaining. Thanks for the presentation.

[@ChrisHarrold]

He did a good job explaining but should be able to answer all Eddie's questions. A couple of examples, he didn't know the type of fuel required and also said he wasn't 100 percent on the cleaning time. All things he should know and be able to convey to the customer that just spent 120k plus.

[@philrodo]

Congratulations on your new Wonder RTB! You’re going to love it, I’m sure. However, you got a 2021 Wonder built on the 2020 Ford Transit coach (not a 2020 Wonder). The 2020 Wonders were build on the 2019 Ford Transit diesel chassis.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Philip - Thank you for reaching out. I can 100% assure you it is a 2020 Wonder on a 2020 Ford Transit chassis. That is one of the reasons I was pretty upset, because I only found out it was a 2020 the day before I took delivery. This is one of only a few that fell under this 2020/2020 build.

[@philrodo]

It has a gas engine, right? All gasoline powered Wonders are 2021 models. The 2020 Wonders were all built on the 2019 Ford Transit diesel chassis. We picked up our 2020 Wonder RTB in March 2020 (we lucked out and found the model we wanted on the showroom floor of FretzRV in PA and it came with all the options we wanted). We first saw it in late Jan and put a cash deposit on it, but couldn’t pick it up until March because I had to get our trade-in to them first which was stored in TN. Anyway, about a month later, LTV announced their 2021 gasoline models which caught me by surprise as they hadn’t publicized much about switching to gasoline chassis. As far as I know (and this topic has been discussed on many FB posts on the LTV Enthusiasts group), all Wonders built on the 2020 Ford Transit gasoline chassis were designated as 2021 models. Perhaps, the dealer declared it wrong when they got it titled with the DMV or something, but if it runs on gas it must be a 2021 model as far as LTV is concerned.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Here is what happened. There were some (not sure of the amount) 2020 Wonders that were built with some of the changes of the 2021 wonder models, but not all of the changes (new layout, new latches/handles on the exterior storage doors, etc...). Mike and Jennifer of RV Lifestyle have the same example of this. And Triple E has designated these as 2020 models. So as MOST 2020 Wonders are on the 2019 Ford diesel chassis, not ALL of them are. And trust me....I was NOT happy when I found out this was a 2020 and not a 2021. I prefer the newer layout as well as the new exterior latches/handles on the storage.

[@philrodo]

Interesting! In the past they would have designated such a major mid-year model change as they did with the 2015.5 model change in the Unity. I went to the LTV site to look at the model changes you mentioned and unless I’m mistaken they’re still showing the 2020 floor plans. I don’t know why they’re so slow in updating their website and manuals (the manual we got with our 2020 is based on an earlier model, like a 2019 or 2018, with an addendum added to cover the basics of the Firefly control panel which they first added to the 2020 Wonder RTB. I watched the 2021 videos and didn’t see major differences in the floor plans between the 2020 and 2021 models; the only difference I observed was that they did away with the Lagun table and replaced it with a pedestal table in the 2021s-I much prefer the Lagun table. I hate the outside locks on ours and was envious of the new locks they’re now using on the 2021s. I first thought that I would have preferred a gasoline engine, but we seem to get better gas mileage with the diesel, though diesel prices are usually higher. We learned to look for diesel when driving through smaller towns or on secondary roads as we can usually buy it much cheaper than the prices at truck stops off the Interstates. It will be interesting to see if buyers of used RVs will place a premium on Wonder diesel models in the future.

[@garyevans9688]

Thankyou so much, this is one of the best, unbiased walkthroughs I've watched, it really highlighted how everything worked right down to the little hidden spots. Just wondered (no pun intended) why you didn't go for the lithium battery option on the coach.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Gary - I appreciate the feedback. This coach was ordered months before I put money down on it, so I wasn’t able to pick out any options on it. However, I did upgrade to 6 battleborn lithium batteries and a 3000 watt inverter shortly after getting the coach. Now I can go days without plugging in or running the generator. - Eddie

[@peterddb1593]

I appreciate the walkthrough. Very informative. I think this model takes diesel, not regular gas though.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Peter - Thank you for the comment. Since this is on a 2020 Ford gas chassis, I assure you it takes gas.

[@bongju328]

Great video! What color is your LTV?

[@larryvisser7083]

Very Nice! Curious about shower inside dimensions and highway MPG?

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Larry - Thanks for the comment. I will do a future video showing the shower size in more detail. But just to put it in perspective, I am 5’ 8” and weigh about 185, and I have more than enough room in there. For MPG on the highway, I have been getting around 16 mpg which I am very happy with!! -Eddie

[@lettyadams9503]

Is this Wonder fully insulated and are the windows double pane for extra protection from the cold?

[@genesiesky3756]

Just found your channel. Ford's 3.5 Eco Boost should not require high test gas. I have that engine in my F150. It takes regular. Glad to see it in Denim. I just built a 2021 Denim front twin bed on line. Had to back out most of the options as it came in pretty high. Americans can expect a 25% discount on American RVs. How was the discount on yours?

[@pearl859]

Hello where did you get your rear window decal? I would love to have one customize to my personality☺️

[@CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg]

Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. rough number on how much I can expect this puppy to cost? Not MSRP

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Carlos - With the huge demand for Leisure Travel Vans, you are likely to pay close to full MSRP, where other brands are typically 20 to 30% below.

[@CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg]

The Scenic Explorer thank you. Very informative.

[@sharonfields6703]

Thank you for the walk through. How long and wide are the beds? They looked short, might have been just the angle. I am still trying to decide if I want a Class B, B+ or a Class C.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Sharon - I don’t have my tape measure with my right now, but I can tell you that I find the beds to be plenty long and wide. I am 5’8” and weigh 185 lbs, and I am totally comfortable on the bed. My 70 lb golden retriever even joins me on the bed sometimes, and we are totally fine. I did add a 2” foam topper that I picked up from Walmart and that has helped keep the beds cool, and added a little cushion to the mattress. I also was choosing between a B, B+ and C, and I will be doing a video in the near future about why I went with a B+, but I can say that I feel like we definitely went with the right choice for us. Perfect balance between comfortability, storage, and can still go almost anywhere a class B can go. -Eddie

[@sharonfields6703]

@@TheScenicExplorer thank you I'm also 5'8" so that should work. I have not found that model around my area to go and see for myself.

[@ronfriedman8740]

Great video. I am so happy for you ...maybe a little envious too. Kind of curious as to why Liesure Travel doesn't let you choose between the 3.2 turbo diesel & the 3.5 Ecoboost ...if it's an option on the Transit?

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Good question Ron! I’m thinking it’s a matter of simplifying their selections. Unity = Diesel, and Wonder = Gas. But that is just my best guess. I will tell you, I am thrilled with having this eco boost gas engine, have been getting great mileage of 15+, and am thrilled I don’t have to worry about adding DEF and the other downsides to having a Diesel engine. But I know that is a long standing debate....gas vs diesel.

[@arisdaddy2001]

Fird Transit is not currently offering a diesel option. When they do next year, it will likely not be available on the AWD chassis.

[@bobnh05]

Is your cabinet color the maple?

[@Calamiti999Fine]

What did you find out on what fuel grade to use? Thanks & enjoyed your channel so subscribed.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Allyson - Thank you for the comments. I never did get clarify one the fuel grade, and have only had to fill up once so far, so I just used Premium. I hope to get a solid answer on which grade it requires soon though.

[@angelakaiser3110]

You have the exact one I am getting!

[@TheScenicExplorer]

That’s great! You are going to love it.

[@chrisdunn3235]

I'm a little confused. You asked the young man if you could run the generator while plugged into shore power. My question is why would you want to do that given that #1, you're plugged in and #2, wouldn't you just be wasting gas to run the genset while plugged in? Sounds a bit redundant. Am I missing something?

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Good question Chris - My question was more intended to be “in case I accidentally turned on the generator while plugged into shore power, what would happen?” I wanted to ensure the electrical system wouldn’t be damaged. - Eddie

[@chrisdunn3235]

@@TheScenicExplorer , well now that makes sense. I guess I was a bit confused but thanks for setting me straight. Have a great day and thanks Eddie!!

[@JS-cp1qk]

I’d like to hear pros and cons concerning gas vs. diesel from everyone! Gas is cheaper than diesel, but does servicing cost a lot more on a diesel? Thanks! I like the Wonder RTB because of the “garage”, hoping I can put my husbands elec scooter in it! Can anyone give dimensions of the slide that comes out of garage? Thanks!

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi J S - I have never owned a gas vehicle before, so I’m not the best at providing a pros and cons of gas be diesel. However, I love having a gas rig. My biggest concern was lack of power/acceleration and I can assure the Ford eco boost has plenty of power to handle even the mountains of Tennessee. Gas is cheaper and the MPG on my rig is great as well (14 to 16 MPG). I also don’t have to worry about adding DEF, and the more expensive service costs of a diesel system. So I am happy with my choice.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

As far as the garage storage, it might be tough to fit an electric scooter in there, but I have fit my fat tire ebike in there with no issue.

[@JS-cp1qk]

The Scenic Explorer thanks for the info!

[@conniehoyle2669]

Does it require premium gas?

[@jannettejohnson1100]

Can you tell me who you purchased through? We are interested in the 2021RL, but don't want to go to a bad dealer.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Jannette - I purchased through Gerzeny's RV World out of Fort Myers, FL...however I would NOT recommend them based on my experience with the sales process and with ongoing service interactions. Gerzeny's has a few locations across Florida, and they are the only RV dealership allowed to sell new Leisure Travel Vans in the entire state of Florida.

[@jannettejohnson1100]

@@TheScenicExplorer That's the one we thought it was. Any suggestions to any other place? We live in Venice.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Perhaps look at buying out of state, and see if Leisure Travel would allow for you to have warranty work completed by a local RV tech? I have heard great things about an RV Dealership in Holland, MI that is a Leisure Travel seller.

[@talleysartstudio]

So is this the 2020 or 2021? I'm confused. It didn't have a 2k inverter, ladder and lithium batteries. Or are those an option?

[@TheScenicExplorer]

Hi Talley's Art Studio - This is a 2020 Wonder on a 2020 Transit Chassis, which as ALMOST all of the features of the 2021 Wonder. It DOES have a 2,000 watt inverter (which is standard) and I added a ladder and lithium batters after the fact (which are options). I hope that clears things up. - Eddie

[@talleysartstudio]

@@TheScenicExplorer So basically it's the options that seperates the year? Interesting.. Things I could purchase separately. Except, for the ladder it appears. This layout is perfect for me. I wonder if they could make the hatch opening bigger from one of the closets under the bed? Big enough as an escape route for an emergency. I've been traveling a long time and weird things do happen.. I'll have to call them and ask.

[@hikerhobby1204]

Talley's Art Studio : Great point!

[@horhay1981]

I think the manual should specify what fuel grade to use.

[@TheScenicExplorer]

I would agree George...the manual should specify. However my manual is for a 2020 wonder on the 2020 Diesel Transit Chassis, so most of the info is not accurate.

[@seanshea11]

Kind of curious about this. I have that engine in an F150 and it is a beast. The manual for the F150 says you should use the higher octane fuel when towing a trailer. Otherwise regular unleaded is fine. I have never used the higher octane when pulling a rather large travel trailer and have had no issues.

[@gordonmckenney4525]

Is there a 12 foot Refrigerator avaiable?

[@TheScenicExplorer]

I assume you mean a “12 volt refrigerator” correct? If so, the fridge in my RV is a 3 way fridge (propane, 12 volt dc, and 120 volt ac)

[@angelakaiser3110]

Do you feel like the fog color will hold up?

[@TheScenicExplorer]

The ultra leather seems really easy to clean and maintain. A quick wipe with a damp rag and you’re good. So I feel goof about the longevity of the fog ultraleather surfaces.

[@garydunn3098]

Thanks for the info

[@TheScenicExplorer]

It is my pleasure Gary Dunn!

[@gregoryneuman1760]

I think you knew more about the coach than the technician did.

[@pault1964]

This makes a change no Dean

[@shelleyj1780]

😷?

[@killmore88]

Useful video. Thanks. Could you post somewhere a photo of the tires? I'd like to know the details. I'm in the LTV FB group if it's easier to post over there. Thanks!