2021 Build Guide - Saab 9-3 ICM2 Radio Modification for Crankshaft or Open Auto Pro

[@Bearded_Ax]

Holy Cow!! Stu, your insight skill are amazing as always. I need to go ahead and try and do this. With all these mods, I imagine you could take any old ICM 2 and replace an ICM 1 without have to deal with divorce and marriage via tech2, yea?

[@SaabUnleashed]

Technically yes. BUT only if the ICM2 came from a car with similar features as yours. For example, if you have reverse sensors and you take an ICM2 from a car that didn't, say goodbye to your reverse sensors until you reactivate them with a Tech2. If you don't have any special features (auto wipers, amp2 ect), you just need to make sure the donor car had an aux as this will mean that it's already enabled and will plug and play in your car. Does that make sense?

[@Bearded_Ax]

@@SaabUnleashed it does! Thank you!

[@martinball3083]

@@SaabUnleashed Hi. I'm lost on the white cable loop thing. Where does that go

[@smug999]

Hi. Thank you so much for these videos on the icm2 and icm3! I had a couple quick questions about Apple car link. Does it work over Bluetooth or do you need to plug it in? If it has to be plugged in, and this may be stupid, but can you plug the Bluetooth adapter into the car link dongle to have car link work via Bluetooth? Also, and I think this may have been addressed in another comment, but I’m curious about a back up camera install as well. Any ideas how to do that or was it addressed elsewhere? Thanks again and I hope you’re able to get back to me :)

[@SaabUnleashed]

The CarPlay kit is wireless, it works via Bluetooth. The backup camera is possible as Open Auto Pro is compatible, but there is no kit for this purpose currently in existence, but it's definitely something for the future

[@smug999]

@@SaabUnleashed Thanks for everything, I got everything working on the bench and going to be installing it in the car in a couple days! Also, "Everlanders" has scripts for including a reverse camera and autodimming on his channel, I've linked the video. It was a little pain but I have everything working and it's great (i used a USB to AV capture card to an aftermarket rca backup camera instead of the pi ribbon camera he used but other than that it was very straight forward)! Anyways, Thanks again! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHe7qaeupM6SpsU

[@wroging]

@@smug999 hi how much for the icm2 upgrade my Saab is 03/9-3 Arc Thank you.

[@philthebuck2309]

Any Chance you have updated links? Or a whole kit to purchase from you ? I am looking for Apple car play options :-)

[@Carper1971]

Hi Stu, done this mod for Carplay on my ICM2 but find I’m getting a bit of crackly feedback on the sound. I have routed a 3.5mm aux cable from the sound card in the Pi to the aux socket in the armrest. Seems this is potentially caused by the cable not being shielded? Do you sell a 3.5mm cable that would plug into the back of the EHU and then into the sound card on the Pi and is it shielded?

[@jobathano1660]

Screen is not available anymore :(

[@seanoneill7710]

quick question - is there any issues with heat dispersal from the Pi?

[@martinball3083]

Hi. I'm lost with the white cable. Where does that go?

[@frankcarino7643]

Are all the items on this list the same for the Apple Car Play install?

[@r.r.visser4156]

Interesting stuff. Still, you are stuck with the "old" radio I guess? I saw some interesting alternative radios at Amazon but then: is it possible to just leave the original radio in place, put one of the alternative radios in while using the existing speakers? Simply splice the leads and connect to the new radio and move on?

[@SaabUnleashed]

Have a look at kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp6teZWdjbOjhdU

[@r.r.visser4156]

@@SaabUnleashed Yes, I already looked at it. Have you ever considered using the face of the ICM unit when detached from the unit as a template? I am going use it to cut a faceplate from a piece of aluminium in which I can put the new radio (Single DIN) in. Needs to be 1,5 mm at least.

[@SaabUnleashed]

@@r.r.visser4156 yeah I always had the intention of 3D printing a faceplate but in the end it was just easier to build the single din bezel from the ICM1 itself

[@r.r.visser4156]

I'll send some pictures when I have mine ready. I think I will opt for a Podofo radio with a retractable screen. Should fit fine. BTW: you have stripped Saab 93 before. Although cars are delivered with different configurations, the wiring looms for speakers should already be there or not?

[@SaabUnleashed]

@@r.r.visser4156 the door speakers yes, if the car doesn't have them, the looms are there. The rear speaker options won't have the wiring there

[@davidlindback7456]

Stu, A friend gave me an Orange Pi Winplus. The popular comparison is the the Raspberry Pi 4 model B. Although the Raspberry Pi is superior, can I use the orange Pi in the ICM2 mod and, if so, what software needs to be installed and how? Are the accessories the same? Am I wasting my time?

[@SaabUnleashed]

The software, Open Auto Pro, is only designed for the mainstream Pis. Have a look at their forums to see if the question has been asked before bluewavestudio.io It needs WiFi and 4 USB ports

[@davidlindback7456]

@@SaabUnleashed It has Wifi, bluetooth and 4 USB 2.0 ports. I will check the forums! Thanks for helping; I will update you on my findings/progress.

[@ismaildonmez1689]

Please help me buddy. I need to find it from this set

[@danstafford-zw9bq]

Where do I purchase this kit?

[@liniecki]

Hi! Is there any way to have a simple setup that would allow you to use WIRED Apple Carplay? Presumably at the time of making this video - there wasn't a way to achieve this. Half a year has passed - anything new on the horizon? I've searched the web and all I could find where some attempts at running Apple Carplay on raspberry pi via Android installation, also thanks to using an external USB dongle. This would be just right, except I haven't seen a setup that would work with the touchscreen capability.

[@amystjohn2386]

Hi Stu, I love all your videos. I’d like to know if I could ship my ICM2 from the U.S and have you put the kit together for me? What would be the fee? Thanks for all your great videos!

[@SaabUnleashed]

Amy, to be honest that is a bit of a logistical nightmare. Without your ICM, your car won't start, so if it gets lost for whatever reason, your car is dead! The ICM2 is very very easy to disassemble to remove the original screen and replace it with the newer LCD, honestly it wouldn't be worth you sending it to me.

[@amystjohn2386]

@@SaabUnleashed thank you for responding. I have an additional ICM2 unit that I haven’t installed yet. But I am getting my feet wet with repairs and upgrades so I’ll give it a try!

[@ewanm2246]

If I were to send you my icm2 from the states, have you fit it together with the kit+apple CarPlay. How much would that cost?

[@SaabUnleashed]

Too much due to shipping and customs fees

[@moloreanm1657]

Regardless the price, how to contact you if wanting to order?

[@SaabUnleashed]

@@moloreanm1657 Info is in the video description

[@Carper1971]

Hi Stu, can I just replace the USB C cable with a lightning cable to use Apple Carplay wired with Open Auto Pro? My car already has ICM2 installed with aux activated so I guess I will need the RPi4, Open Auto Software with Carplay, screen, Power adaptor and cable, sound adaptor, bluetooth, microphone, aux cable and lighting cable? Really fancy giving this a go.

[@SaabUnleashed]

You can indeed with Open Auto Pro software and the Apple CarPlay add-on. It's essentially exactly the same as the ICM3 mod but with a smaller screen

[@Carper1971]

@@SaabUnleashed Thanks Stu, out of interest have you tried Carplay on this? Just how usable is it with such a small screen?

[@dennisspors7530]

If I send you my ICN2, will you update the unit and ship back..for a fee?

[@SaabUnleashed]

There's many reasons why I generally wouldn't do this. But the main one is that, for the ICM2, it's very easy to swap the screen, 10x easier than the ICM3. It's literally a couple of screws to remove the original.

[@krzys7565]

Can you make a video on how to mount it in the car itself?

[@SaabUnleashed]

There are videos on my channel which show this, check the LG phone conversion videos

[@moloreanm1657]

And now a video for installing apple car play in a icm1 😁

[@SaabUnleashed]

Anything is possible with a Dremel!

[@georgieboi2001]

I want the wireless android auto kit. Thus shipping here in US included in the price?

[@SaabUnleashed]

If you want me to put together the kit for you, there will be a shipping cost of £35 to the States

[@georgieboi2001]

@@SaabUnleashed it's okay. I want the whole kit together. How much all in with shipping? Like $355 with wireless android auto? I tried to like contact [e-mail] in the link you provided, but it just shows KZbin links. I never know your response until I open your video again here.

[@audreyeller2867]

If you can't install the Rasberry Pi inside the metal box as stated in the updated note, where do you put it?

[@SaabUnleashed]

Just sit it inside the dashboard like the ICM3 build.

[@audreyeller2867]

@@SaabUnleashed I sent you an email regarding ordering. When you get a chance, please respond. Thanks

[@SaabUnleashed]

@@audreyeller2867 I can't see it. Please email [e-mail]

[@audreyeller2867]

@@SaabUnleashed Tried that too with no response.

[@nickligammari7773]

My 04 has everything but aux will this still work ?

[@SaabUnleashed]

You have two options. You can either use an FM transmitter to tune your radio into this, or you can use a Tech2 to enable Aux

[@дениссоловьев-ч2к]

Где купить?

[@trevorburton6942]

Stuart I need to purchase the AUX bit from you. Please can you contact me to sort this out? Thanks Trevor

[@SaabUnleashed]

Trevor contact me either on Facebook or [e-mail]

[@craynerd]

Hi Stu - sent out an email about the icm2 kit but got no reply. I’ll send another now if you don’t mind replying. Cheers Chris

[@vivace361]

What size MicroSD card is needed?

[@SaabUnleashed]

Small. 8/16gb will be fine

[@vivace361]

@@SaabUnleashed Thanks Stu! I've got a 2006 9-3 Aero Convertible with only 21k miles. This is gonna be great!!!! I just got my Raspberry Pi 4 yesterday in the mail. You are awesome!!! I sent you a FB friend request.

[@SaabUnleashed]

Lots of pictures when installed please! Feel free to contact me on Facebook if you need a hand

[@jatkaler5735]

@@SaabUnleashed Which raspberry version did you use for your build?

[@SaabUnleashed]

@@jatkaler5735 the 3b for Crankshaft and 4 for Open Auto Pro

[@WiLL-bz3kj]

What size sd card required for this build? With open auto pro 4b, is iphone interactive without the need to wire into your phone? Limitations to wireless Bluetooth? Is this possible?

[@SaabUnleashed]

You only need a 16gb, and that's plenty. If you use the 4b with Open Auto Pro, you get wireless AA and CP