When I asked for this on discord, was just looking for a recommendation for which one to buy. Didn't expect such a thorough analysis. You guys made it awesome!
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
We loved the suggestion a lot!
@Gobz012 жыл бұрын
It was a great suggestion
@finks12 жыл бұрын
This should be an absolute staple of the channel but any chance you could do it around Black Friday next year so we can use it as an informed gift giving guide?
@richmondlau59452 жыл бұрын
@@finks1 luckily we have boxing day in Canada. Hopefully some of these will be in sale if stores are trying to clear stock lol
@vincentferrer14952 жыл бұрын
They’re the best mtg channel for a reason!!
@therealjeromeo43662 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of days ago I visited a game shop that wasn’t my normal one, but I learned that the commander 2020 precons there were still at $40. Picked me up a timeless wisdom deck while I was out, or should I say a $5 discount on fierce guardianship and 99 free cards lol
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
That's a nice deal!
@bladetb39342 жыл бұрын
If you get the chance you should go get kalamax too. Deflecting swat is probably the second best version of those cards. Maybe deadly rollick is second, hard to say really
@therealjeromeo43662 жыл бұрын
@@bladetb3934 yeah I probably will after Christmas bc they did have arcane maelstrom too, and I already have deadly rollick from symbiotic swarm
@tomwitty4652 жыл бұрын
Love this kind of thing. I lucked into a Mystic Intellect deck the same way. $40, thanks for the Dockside Extortionist.
@brendan81142 жыл бұрын
Similar thing happened at mine with the 2019 sevinne deck, got dockside for $40 and 99 other cards for free :D
@murkmuffin2 жыл бұрын
As someone that works in an LGS and frequently gets the “which of these precons should I get?” Questions, i really appreciate your breakdown of each of these. I really enjoyed both of the kaldheim precons and felt that asking someone to invest 20$ in a functional deck is WAY more well received than asking them to spend 40$
@braddorcas93632 жыл бұрын
Rags on him for mentioning sol ring continuously. No issues with mentioning command tower every time.
@jamesgratz47712 жыл бұрын
I love osgir. He motivated me to finally Put together a 4 color artifact deck. So many cool new cards and a fun new Boros theme. I like the reanimating value engine
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
He is an awesome boros commander
@5allum2 жыл бұрын
What's your commander?
@fader722 жыл бұрын
@@5allum i assume Breya, i did the same thing lol
@dif47972 жыл бұрын
@@fader72 Nah, Atraxa is the real deal when building artifacts😉
@pentamagic2 жыл бұрын
I spent so long trying to figure out which deck to buy, decided to last minute change my mind to Aura of Courage. So glad I did, is a great precon
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
It’s so awesome!!!
@pentamagic2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds I found Ranger Class to be an insanely good card for this deck, as it lets you cast creatures from the top of your deck too. (Also Volo, Guide to Monsters is a personal favourite due to having such a wide variety of creature types in the deck)
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
@@pentamagic ranger class seems solid maybe augur of autumn would be good as well
@pentamagic2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds The holy trifecta
@Bruhecc2 жыл бұрын
Note to self: Wilhelt: 13:30 Coven counters: 54:38
@Will_Morand2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite was the Wilhelt deck. Most of the precons this year were far better than in the past, and Wilhelt is super easy to upgrade to make really powerful.
@adamstilber83822 жыл бұрын
Elven empire is definitely my favorite precon from this year because of how many $2+ elf tribal cards there were. There were a couple elves that I tossed out fast but they were easily replaced. If we’re talking about the deck that can make the cheapest upgrades to be a lot better, then I’d say Elven empire is damn near the top if not #1.
@petermullins39352 жыл бұрын
Love my prosper deck. I play dnd and was so excited to build prosper. I had know idea I would be building such a powerful/fun deck
@francischungfs2 жыл бұрын
Breena wanted your opponents to kill each other while Breena swoop in for the finisher when it's time. It's been a fun deck without much work but sad it's last in your list.
@Calpinable2 жыл бұрын
Based on their videos before, the issue is not Breena or the idea of the deck but the card choices for the deck itself.
@francischungfs2 жыл бұрын
@@Calpinable , totally understand but the so call duds mentioned inside is actually working on the deck and I would rate other few decks to be more on the lower end. But it's their opinion and totally respect it...just sad
@aes26212 жыл бұрын
@@francischungfs agreed. When you read the cards they rank as duds, they all have synergy with the +1/+1 counters and politics, or the inkling theme. + Felisa is an amazing b commander and when she’s in command, she plays the deck a lot better imo.
@therealjeromeo43662 жыл бұрын
Favorite commander of these precons was a lorehold commander, but I chose alibou over osgir. I can’t deny osgir’s power, but the tap artifacts strategy seemed so much more fun for me
@iamwatari40882 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video format, and the discussion. I don't have an hour of spare time so appreciate the stamps so I can watch the sections of commanders I was interested in.
@MirrorAshes Жыл бұрын
As someone just now getting into EDH and looking at precons you guys really do the best job of breaking down not just the value but the reasons why you’d want to play these decks. Love your videos!!
@kingginger33352 жыл бұрын
The best Precon deck was Zombies but the best Commander was Osgir. His ability to recur and copy artifacts is so damn power is absurd! Especially when it's mana artifacts like Grim Monolith and Mana crypt. It's really cool when it gets going
@poofypeanut02212 жыл бұрын
The best is Zombies or your favorite is Zombies? Definitely not the best power level wise.
@Mr_B_2512 жыл бұрын
Wilhelt definitely has a great CEILING for what you can BUILD. I have a friend who has been playing Wilhelt out of the box, and it tends to do a lot of nothing in our games because it's fragile. He'll dump 4 or 5 zombies out... then they'll all die to a boardwipe. Rinse and repeat.
@lukecullen79342 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_B_251 with an under $50 upgrade it can easily be the best of all the decks this year
@joshholmes13722 жыл бұрын
Wilhelt is great. You just gotta replace 5-10 duds for some great zombies.
@Mr_B_2512 жыл бұрын
@@lukecullen7934 Right. That's what I was saying. WILHELT is a great commander. The deck STRAIGHT out of the box... not so much.
@Brooks05112 жыл бұрын
How does it feel that y’all Made the market watch with ritual of the machines caused a price spike y’all are official now lol
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
I saw that! Didn’t see us mentioned but it correlates pretty well 😂
@Brooks05112 жыл бұрын
Yeah they gave y’all a shoutout said nitpicking needs
@TheUltimateRey2 жыл бұрын
Osgir is top in terms of boosting boros artifact support
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
He is awesome
@ectoBiologist212 жыл бұрын
He was far and away my favorite from Strixhaven.
@mfitkin2 жыл бұрын
Would you guys review the old precons for fun? I just want to hear you talk trash about some of the duds they used to toss into them. We’re honestly spoiled now by comparison, not necessarily as a whole, but nowadays the precons play much better out of the box
@tempestandacomputer69512 жыл бұрын
I second this!
@BeauV4952 жыл бұрын
Sad to see breena in last place, as a precon with 4 or 5 cards added it has a huge win % in my pod, probably 75%. Keep up the good work nerds, I very much enjoy your daily content
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Yeah a lot of these precons change drastically with upgrades
@claygillman93512 жыл бұрын
Great timing for this video guys. We are starting a league up in January where you have to play one of the precons from this past year. Each week you get to upgrade $14-$22 each week depending on a ranking list that they have. With Coven Counters I would get $22 a week, so that might be a solid choice. Unfortunately Aura of Courage is only $14 per week for upgrades. But it was really good to hear what you guys thought of each of these.
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro36942 жыл бұрын
Breena is probably my favorite this time around. The commander itself, not so much the precon. It makes me play differently from how I typically would. Plus, it's current year, soooooo yay politics, I guess.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Breena is awesome! We can't talk about it for too long or else we get cancelled for talking politics :p
@plain66772 жыл бұрын
Breena is the most underrated card of the year, I play her in all my decks she can fit. She draws so many cards! No need any synergy or politics.
@ectoBiologist212 жыл бұрын
I slept on Coven Counters so hard. Just played it out of the box as is and it was great. Ordered the cards from your guys upgrade video.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, hope it performs well for you!
@dami52082 жыл бұрын
I picked up Galea precon same time as MH2 set booster, swapped a few pulls from the box straight in like Kaldrea compleat, Nettlecryst and Esper Sentinel and it almost felt like a real constructed deck with the great mana land base
@wizap72 жыл бұрын
Top 3 precons: 1:Prosper 2: Osgir 3: Lathril I never actually played lathril, but i like elf tribal and bought her to upgrade a deck. I do wanna rebuild her though. On a side note, i do have Eloise and Shadrix (and previously beledros) built as commanders, so i enjoyed those as well, even if not directly related
@malmasterson38902 жыл бұрын
I think these are certainly the best commanders, but you really have to play the precons to understand why Lathril & Osgir fell a bit lower.
@wizap72 жыл бұрын
@@malmasterson3890 oh no, i agree, un upgraded, these two are definitely low on the list because they were not built very well out of box, but they have great potential
@vincentrutledge94452 жыл бұрын
Dang. 57k subs. Seems like a week ago you guys did the 50k mail opening. Great job guys!
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
We are becoming 🌟mainstream🌟
@adamsheats86182 жыл бұрын
I need someone to explain why Silverquill statement is the worst of these 15 precons. I don't play the deck, my friend does, and he has a consistent and high winrate against anyone at our table who are playing decks, from mono red burn, r/u combo, b/w lifegain, b/u zombie or mono red dragon tribal. The significant change's he made to it is changing the commander to Shadrix Silverquill.
@sambrown94752 жыл бұрын
At what sub count is Joe changing his last name legally to cherries
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
250,000
@ImTheMrFoxman2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the #1 on your list at my LGS yesterday (before seeing this video) and it seems kinda lackluster in comparison to the 5-color deck (not on this list) I bought along side it. In play testing of the two, the equipments are very slow. Maybe the strategy is to get your commander out as fast as possible? Probably just RNG but the deck kept being mana-starved while precon 5-color deck I bought just went nuts with lands and could consistently bring out its 5-7 cost creatures.
@lunarlight31312 жыл бұрын
oh boy was i sweating the whole day. lunch time came, no neds. finally dinner time and nerds! cheers!
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you were so sweaty today! 😂
@namisue72932 жыл бұрын
I run twenty sources of card draw/selection in my wilhelt deck. It's purely a combo deck(no thoracle though I have self respect) that aims to combo off by turn seven in the absolute worst situations, but usually hits 4-6. Rooftop Storm+Acererak/(gravecrawler and a payoff), or poppet sticher with a payoff and wilhelt, but if all else fails ashnods altar getting extra mama off wilhelt to cast a Torment of Hailfire. Definitely my most powerful deck, i call it Zombo Combo
@theinvisiblegentleman11422 жыл бұрын
I think you guys are undervalued undead alchemist. Exiling your opponents creatures before they even hit the field, and making a bunch of zombie tokens is great.
@pcp_jesus2 жыл бұрын
the Wilhelt deck literally just needs minimal tweaking and it's great. I actually switched Gisa and Geralf to be my commander with Wilhelt in the 99, and it already works significantly better in terms of just amassing zombies. They're definitely right about the weird amount of non-zombies though, but there's TONS of amazing zombies to just swap in.
@mexftplaya2 жыл бұрын
I loved the witherbloom precon. Took out all the cards that gave counters and replaced them with more life draining cards and ramp. I also replaced the commander with Beledros. The deck is very effective.
@matthewbajkowski22102 жыл бұрын
Coven counters is my favorite. I bought that and undead unleashed at the same time, and after playing with both, I found Coven Counters and Leinore so great and fun. Sadly because it didn’t have as much “value” as when that and the undead unleashed were announced, most of the players at my lgs went with zombies instead of experiencing the greatness of leinore.
@TroostDesigned2 жыл бұрын
Leinore is such an amazing commander! I recently bought her precon and I wasn't dissapointed. She is such a flavorful commander. I went human tribal btw.
@bensouder86482 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about Kyler? At first glance at the cards, Kyler seems like it does a little more for providing an insane amount of counters paired with other cards in the deck. Leinore just provides a single counter and card draw. Just curious why I see more praise for one over the other.
@TroostDesigned2 жыл бұрын
@@bensouder8648 Leinore is still more of an underdog, Kyler while great just paints a target on your back. Although I think is great that both of them make for a great human tribal commander.
@bensouder86482 жыл бұрын
@@TroostDesigned good point, I guess theres an art form to having a solid commander but not one that's going to make everyone go for you every time
@lilapple2 жыл бұрын
@@bensouder8648 I got the precon and swapped to Kyle as my commander, added some cards that give trample and now everyone's scared to play against him. Deck is still weak to flying but man if you can get Kyle out, give creatures trample, and get sigardian zealot or wild beast master its game over provided you can keep him alive. The card that gives him indestructible is good and so is swift foot boots giving him hexproof. I feel like he's more consistent than Lenoire and her ability is good but in a mostly human deck Kyler just makes more sense
@vannwallnutt88232 жыл бұрын
I think people missed Robe of stars at first but it's definitely the final piece Voltron decks needs. Because after hexproof and indestructible, the next thing you need is protection from edict effects and cyclonic rift
@FarrellDillonComedyMagicLV2 жыл бұрын
I play a bunch of Voltron decks and this is going in every one I can put it in. I bought like 10 of the Galea Precons because a lot of those cards are going to be worth money.
@patrickaquilina43742 жыл бұрын
I love watching different KZbinrs discuss the 2021 Commanders and comparing/contrasting opinions. There seems to be a lot of consensus that there were a lot of great commanders that had total garbage in the 99.
@J21UA2 жыл бұрын
I've had my Prosper's commander tax up to 14 and still had no problem getting him out. Crazy value engine and I don't even run any infinites in my build. One of my favorite commanders in my collection and I've been playing since 2003.
@Dzicozan2 жыл бұрын
birthday lad is me today, thanks for the wishes guys
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Happy happy! Another year older
@Jeunster2 жыл бұрын
I build a deck from the Galea precon, with Storvald in command. That giant brought so many great ideas in my head while I discarded the idea of a seven mana commander at the time of spoilers I started going the giant adventure tribal in the end. Stonehewer cares about equipment and Boonweaver cares for auras. Then I thought it cool to bring in intrepid hero to whack opposing creatures, and pump em with the giant if they’re not big enough, or throw a rancor/bloodthirsty blade on them to make valid targets. Then I came up with the adventure cards from Eldraine, starting with Giant Killer and Realm-Cloaked Giant. I think that deck was one of the greatest to go different routes and still do synergistic stuff every turn. What a casual commander gem!
@Lilrockerdude132 жыл бұрын
I grabbed up Phantom Premonitions week one of release. Every time I bring it to the table as is or with the suggested $50 upgrade, people are always so impressed with how it plays for such a cheap base of cost. I enjoy playing it and so glad it took the better half of this list. Grab it if you haven't it is fun even at base
@NeonXprime2 жыл бұрын
I’m haven’t played mtg in 2 years and plan to come back this year Do you still recommend the phantom premonitions deck? And if so can you tell me what the $50 upgrade for the deck is or link me a website/ video that has the upgrade list please and thank you!
@Mr_B_2512 жыл бұрын
As far as the precon decks themselves... I purchased 10/15. I agree with the strength of the Coven deck... but I ultimately bought it to scrap for parts. Out of the box, I'm straight up a Sefris or Osgir fan. But Leinore itself is probably the best commander of 2021 from the precons.
@spudster88872 жыл бұрын
I actually disagree heavily with galea and leinore being the best 2021 precons out of the box. Leinore needs a pretty significant rebuild to be a half decent deck and galea is extremely unfocussed since its aura and equipment matters. Osgir, prosper and wilhelt eat these 2 decks for lunch, and its really not even close
@joshholmes13722 жыл бұрын
Vrondiss even. He just smashes their face in while they get up to speed. Actual play experience matches. Prosper and wilhelt definitely slap.
@spudster88872 жыл бұрын
@@joshholmes1372 Tbh i think the vrondiss precon is among the worst of this year, its a slow clunky mess. The average CMC of that deck is far, far too high, and it lacks the ramp to make the stompy theme actually work.
@tefin4202 жыл бұрын
My favorite is actually the silverquil one. A post on Facebook was saying they played all against each other and it was top 4 as well. It's probably my deck with the highest win rate. No one says oh this deck. It's fun for you and for other people playing. The Ghostly Prison effects are nice when it gets down to 1v1 but the commander makes a fun game of oh I'll hit that player I get cards.
@markoramius46892 жыл бұрын
I get that the precon is a bit underwhelming, but my upgraded Breena deck is my favorite deck. Built with politics, +1 counters, and board wipe resilience as themes in that order. It's also fairly strong. Won me quite a few games.
@tempestandacomputer69512 жыл бұрын
Can you expand on "board wipe resilience "?
@markoramius46892 жыл бұрын
@@tempestandacomputer6951 things like Felisa, Fang of Silverquill, Basri's Lieutenant, Selfless Spirit, Guardian of Faith, and multi-reanimator effects like Sun Titan and Incarnation Technique. The idea is that if the board ever gets wiped (usually by me), I'm either protected, or the quickest to recover.
@barrinburg6122 жыл бұрын
why is windborne muse and ghostly prison considered bad or a dud? from my perspective it is pretty good right? stop people from attacking you or at least discourage it
@danyeal242 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Chef's kiss!!!!! Thank you for your advice and opinions. You guys are great. Keep up the good work 👍☺️
@andrewrockwell12822 жыл бұрын
Coven counters is solid. I love Kyler, he is expensive but so explosive. Give me a turn or so after I play him and I will swing the table for lethal.
@josephcerasuolo35632 жыл бұрын
Yeah I picked up the Galea and the Adrix and Nev precons this year, switch Adrix and Nev out for Esix, and both have served me REALLY well as my reintroduction to MTG after being out for like 7 years. Esix helped me learn all of the mechanics again and how to order triggers, and Galea got me my first introduction to Voltron and how important it is to be able to cheat equip costs and storm off the top of a deck. Really impressed with both.
@slashaholicanonymous2 жыл бұрын
My personal top 2021 precon (only referencing those I own): (1) Osgir - made boros great again (2) Prosper - cool mechanics (3) Vrondiss - dice rolling is fun (4) Lathril - elves, easy to upgrade (5) Wilhelt - doesn’t even need upgrades (6) Ranar - unique feel (7) Leinore - GW humans, lots of synergies (8) Esix / Adrix and Nev - simic goodness, kind of generic (9) Galea - wanted to love but plays like a dud most games
@slashaholicanonymous2 жыл бұрын
@TemurTimmy for sure. I couldn’t believe it when Galea was their #1. Value aside, it’s one of the biggest letdowns in terms of gameplay of any precon I’ve bought (and I’ve been buying precons since the OG 2011 set).
@joshholmes13722 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Galea is so slow and gets smashed by removal and face beatdown before it can get going.
@MasonSheffield2 жыл бұрын
Joe got so mad at Beezy saying Sol Ring every time that at 22:47, he sounds like a dog chew toy 🦴🎶
@Jayohp2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing wrap up video. Great choice of key information about each deck.
@aaronmiller10092 жыл бұрын
I literally cannot wait for my birthday video
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
When is it?
@ellak5312 жыл бұрын
I have to say, I really disagree with the idea that basic lands are themselves a problem. I’d much rather have basics in my Precon than too many ETB taplands that I draw late and have to sit with. Now, if land count is too high, that’s a different story, but I think that’s a different argument to be had
@Purgatog2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been meaning to ask - who put Solgaleo on the shelf in the background?
@danielkuttel78672 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video and the time you have put in. Maybe you can show at the end a small sheet with all decks and ratings for every topic and overall rating? I love your content.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, glad you enjoy!
@billsussman65542 жыл бұрын
I HATED my vrondiss deck until I switched to klauth. Now it’s one of my favorites. The precon was meh in general. I ended up putting a lot of ramp and changing the creatures around. Throwing in eldrazi, etali, ilharg, etc. Lots of damage doublers and extra combat spells, heroic intervention, wrap in vigor, cauldron of souls, soul of new phyrexia, lots of green card draw, and some removal and x spells. It’s a force now. Not the most powerful but it’s extremely explosive and can win the game seemingly out of nowhere. It’s a lot of fun to play.
@xterminator75802 жыл бұрын
osgir is literaly my first commander.if i were to grab another one of these decks i would pick prosper from afr zombies frommidnight hunt spirits from crimson vow.from strixhaven the quandrix precon the elf one from kaldheim
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
A great place to start
@anthonynguyen4512 жыл бұрын
Prosper player here, if you want a few ideas let me know. He is really fun and it is great if you want to one shot an opponent due to how high his ramping can get.
@cheesybeans2262 Жыл бұрын
I had Butcher of Malakir and Skullclamp out and just completely took over the game
@supermassivi19952 жыл бұрын
Thx for the birthday shoutout
@mauriandlaw2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis , it checks all the boxes. Subscribed immediately. Only 1 question, how Hellish Rebuke is not good ? I think the card it is great.
@smithdood2 жыл бұрын
I'm pumped with Galea's placement! She's who I chose to get into edh with, and I'm happy to see her getting love!
@In_Response2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. perfect video for my birthday as the precon guy in my play group
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
So convenient!
@stephentruxal73702 жыл бұрын
New idea for the Grease card, a spoof of Lightning Greaves, Lightning Grease. Equipped creature is unblockable, make it a callback to the meme card Hot Soup
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Flavor text: "Comin' through!"
@TheLucluchtloper2 жыл бұрын
I recommend monologue tax, it is very good. Nearly always you get the mana out of it the first round it’s down, and I play it in a token synergy deck, so it really goes off. But since it’s not super insane it often stays around for quite a while since there are better removal targets
@charlescrona54622 жыл бұрын
Really cool video guys! Helped me filter through some junk in the vampire deck, you should do these kinds of videos every year! Maybe a little earlier in december though so you have time to order one as a gift hehe
@MareczqZglos2 жыл бұрын
Osgir for me is nr.1 :) Its a deck that i play A LOT - change a lot in it in time. From simple big artifacts "reanimate" deck with more "discard" outlet - to some fast draw/combo deck - eding now to amazing PL9 deck with STAX staregy and super fast mana... Gaela of me is nr.2 ... its my Favorite deck to play. I tried it in few builds too - but here i one was totaly the most fun and best. You build it as super fast pure equip deck ( Exept ramp Auras - they are amazing !!!) with super low cost for equipments and a lot creatures that lower cost of playing them. So the startegy is to put Gelea in game, and then really CHAIN 10+ cards from top - its amazing FUN :D What is best - even if i build this deck reallllyyy good (Great mana base - fetches etc. - all best equipments like Swords - and all best stuff to manipulate library + a lot Tutors) its not OP , and you can play it even in "lower" PL table - sure you can like make Galea 11/11 with DS in turn 4-5 ... but thats is still easy to STOP, and in best case scenario can kill 1 player... Nr.3 is elf deck... i love the deck i build based on the Pre-Con... problem is after all my upgrades and cards i want to run... i end up with may 20 cards from orginal deck ;P I still love my elf deck - but i could just buy the cards i needed - not the full Pre-Con... ;P
@wolframflorian2 жыл бұрын
I play ghostly prison in my Jared Carthalion Deck. The Deck want's to keep the Monarch. Ghostly Prison is actually a decent way to achieve it.
@Jeunster2 жыл бұрын
Don’t let these guys fool you, given their opinion on certain cards I’d say their playgroup isn’t into winning games through fair and square combat.
@michaelpatalano98842 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect video i needed right now. Happy holidays, Nerds!
@philippophantastisch23102 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video! Absolutely love it!
@SasquatchChief2 жыл бұрын
Ghostly Prison in a stax deck when playing against agro decks works very well. So can you please cut the hate. You complain once and drop it like you do when mentioning Sol Ring as a reprint. Wait, you didn’t quite drop it. It gets old. If you do bring it back, got have good timing. Watch comedians and how they bring back a joke from the start of their set and then end with it. Prosper is a very strong commander. Lots of interesting things you can do with exile casting shenanigans.
@chancelorswanger1122 жыл бұрын
Don’t you think lenoirs niche? I mean all those effects needed to draw one card? Toxrill and others draw way easier
@starmanda882 жыл бұрын
I got that deck for kyler to be the commander and it’s a blast. I don’t get lenoires appeal at all either.
@TheChronoG2 жыл бұрын
I wish they did more of the cheaper precons, they were well built and generally a great help in getting me started with EDH
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
The $20 decks were honestly slam-dunks, maybe they'll mix it up and bring them back!
@cholland672 жыл бұрын
Yea. I wish they'd bring them back too. I managed to get all 6. Sadly I think that WOTC won't bother with the £20 any more as people will buy the higher price ones
@igorlemes11232 жыл бұрын
39:38 dam right about deluge, Beezy. been running it on my Unesh list and it's SICK!
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
It’s a less hated version of Cyclonic Rift 😂
@JadeHex2 жыл бұрын
Breena was by far my most favorite commander of this year and what prompted me to pre-order the deck, Silverquill Statement literally worst deck I've ever seen and I spent 50 dollars on 3 cards lol At least I have this dope orzhov aggro deck now
@dcdids20112 жыл бұрын
I started playing commander a few months ago and my first deck was to be the Wilhelt one. I bought the pre-order, but that same day I was invited to play with some friends, so I had to buy a deck to play right away if I wanted to participate. I ended up picking Silverquill Statement cuz it looked interesting. To this day, my Breena deck is feared among our casual table and Wilhelt is still waiting to get the cards it needs to keep up with some of the stuff I get to play against. Breena, by far, my most beloved commander, even if she isnt crazy good by herself.
@ImAussieMate Жыл бұрын
Mr thunder collector conductor was one of my favourite decks to pilot.
@themochaman2 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video. Keep up the great work, can't wait for games.
@ApexZer02 жыл бұрын
What about nighthawk in vampire tribal?
@peshy69122 жыл бұрын
Osgir and Millicent are my two favs from the year. I can't believe how strong prosper is tho. I completely underestimated and missed that one, but I think that's because i was focused on kindler of hope.
@kk_332 жыл бұрын
Selfless squire is actually an incredible card that has won me more games than I can count that I would otherwise have lost
@rteishe2 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see Wilhelt so low...he very quickly eclipsed 2k decks on edhrec (really really popular), and when the deck was spoiled, it represented the most value of any precon to date. Interesting to see what the value is NOW though...on preview, cards like rooftop storm & endless ranks (which sucks, but still...haha) were like $15 & $20 reprints. For my vote, the Propser deck was the best. So fun, even when it was just spinning its wheel it was fun, haha. Such a cool take on Rakdos. Osgir was probably the strongest overall though...
@joshholmes13722 жыл бұрын
Proper is my favorite for sure. Because wilhelt was probably the most popular of all these decks the market was flooded with reprints for him. Driving the value waay down.
@5allum2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that likes Alibou more than Osgir? Alibou is fun for an artifact creature commander deck.
@hungrybasss2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm the three decks I want to build are 1, 2 and 3. Not sure what that says about me… oh well
@DigitalinDaniel2 жыл бұрын
The four Innistrad decks are just awesome, one of the best worlds from MtG loaded with tried and true themes. I also think Kaldheim moving MtG into Norse Mythology is a great direction, but the set felt very lackluster... they spread their Gods too thin when a mono-colored Odin, Frigg, Thor, Loki, and Heimdall would have been more than enough. The uncommon Kaldheim legends though pretty weak are just far more cool and interesting. (Ranar also feels more like Odin than Alrund) :^)
@darmarfran2 жыл бұрын
I bought Breena to upgrade into a "birds and politics." I love bird tribal, so I added that as a subtheme. The birds are there as small cheap fliers to trigger Breena and hold the counters. I put in coveted jewel, more monarchy, more targeted removal. It's a fun, super interactive deck!
@최승현-l1o2 жыл бұрын
So this Ranking is just based on the pure PRECON right? With No customizing. If customized, It will be different
@maximiliancunningham65982 жыл бұрын
This video' was great. I played out of the box coven counters, and this pointed out the issues I had. Couldn't draw cards after consecutive board wipes, and not enough removal
@corbingovers75592 жыл бұрын
One of Wilheldt's biggest detractions is that almost all of its reprints were only expensive due to supply and cratered when it was reprinted, and out of all the precons I've upgraded this year, I've taken the least number of cards out of it (adrix and nev is basically a completely different deck)
@wakefieldwade40192 жыл бұрын
If you don't already know. This is an excellent video guys. Best of this quarter....so far😉
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@josephcole81022 жыл бұрын
Replacing the silverquill commander with straight up shadrix is probably your best bet, he does everything that the deck wants to do without being weird about it
@andynonya14902 жыл бұрын
I think I'm a sucker for cards that let you look at the top card of your library anytime
@harrisonwulf85232 жыл бұрын
Big D & D nerd, I got both prosper and Gaelia. I love them both, but Prosper is crazy. Threw birgi in and Laelia blade reforged, and with maybe five other additions, it has been going crazy
@patricklynch4074 Жыл бұрын
"I wonder where my favorite precon, wilhelt, will rank! Ah."
@vannwallnutt88232 жыл бұрын
My main deck currently is Galea Enchantress deck and going into this video, I'm ready to expect Galea to be on the low number, maybe around 9. Didn't expect her precon to be number 1 lmao.
@Wojtek367622 жыл бұрын
Still playing Prosper and Osgir, very happy with those decks. I bought the Galea deck, converted it to a Tuvasa enchantments deck, and now I have a pile of equipment support.
@MasonSeamancer2 жыл бұрын
The coven counters deck is amazing, I picked it up when my gameshop had a sale on it, dropping it to $20, so far its been really powerful
@TroostDesigned2 жыл бұрын
I picked her Precon at $25 at I'm so glad I did, people hadn't realize what an amazing commander she is.
@Slabri2 жыл бұрын
That precon is actually ranked dog shit on every list except this one LMFAO.
@MasonSeamancer2 жыл бұрын
@@Slabri it's strange because so far everytime I've used it ive gotten 3-4 massive creatures by turn 5
@Mystic_Sanctum2 жыл бұрын
The amount of times someone tried to swing in with a voltron commander or Caterhoof Behemoth and an army of angry eleves, only to have Inkshield or Selfless Squire pop up and say "Hey, that's a lot of damage. It's mine to use now." is way higher than it should be. They just don't expect it from a non-mono blue deck. It can be good utility in low creature decks, stacks, and durtling play styles. But otherwise, most of the other cards were kind of a miss.
@ketchupboy20022 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, I personally don't wanna watch over an hour of content ranking precons. I would've appreciated a tierlist at the end or something with them in order so I could take a peek and maybe skip around to things I disagree with to see your justifications. I know it's extra work and you probably don't want people skipping around but, still love the content
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, I'm going to add chapters to the vid :)
@ketchupboy20022 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Bless your soul
@schumerus67862 жыл бұрын
Funny that the Leinore deck and the Adrix and Nev could really profit from some switch ups, the green token makers from Leinore to AnN and the green counter cards from AnN to Leinore
@discordmarauder Жыл бұрын
In my experience playing & upgrading quantum quandrix, it has more potential than people give it credit for. I’d say it’s better to make a ton of smaller tokens than big beefy ones and then find ways to give them abilities like flying or trample to ram through. If you get A&N and esix out you’re basically playing on easy mode. I’m still looking for good token generators but the main 3 I get the most use out of (after doing some upgrades) are avenger of zendikar, scute swarm, and hornet queen. As previously mentioned, esix + a&n is absurd cause with aoz you could turn 7 0/1 plants into 14 avengers of zendikar plus 98 0/1 plants. The main and INCREDIBLY fatal flaws of the deck are that you are a major target once you actually get going, it comes with little interaction, and for a simic deck the ramp is PITIFUL.
@shesgard372 жыл бұрын
Zaffai is a real fun deck but I changed more than half of the precon. Tried to keep the theme of 5 cmc or greater to make 4/4's and win through combat
@kyledsweeney2 жыл бұрын
I replaced a bunch of cards with 5 cmc and X spells, and that deck is a lot of fun. A bit slow to ramp, but then always triggering the 5 and 10 cmc effects. I think the other strategy of cheating out big spells might be more powerful for its ability to combo, but X-spells hold up decently in a combat meta. It’s too bad you can’t mix strategies since cheating out an X spell is almost always a waste.