2021 F150 Amp Installation Guide (+ BONUS custom sub box plans)

A quick n dirty overview of how I installed an amp and 2 12" subs in my 2021 F150 XLT. This particular truck is the 12" Sync 4 system with the base 7-speaker setup. Not sure what's different on the different entertainment configurations. Anyways, there was pretty much no info on these trucks since they're so new, so now that I've figured it all out as I went along I figured I'd share in case it can help anyone else!
Links to all the products shown in this video!
Pioneer 12" shallow-mount subwoofer: amzn.to/3a5aucv
Subwoofer speaker terminals: amzn.to/3wqPtSS
4 legs used for subwoofer box: amzn.to/3uqb2kK
Wire tap connectors for line-output converter: amzn.to/31RaB6O
Scosche line output converter: amzn.to/31OqeMg
Amp installation kit: amzn.to/3uruiOL
Pioneer amp: amzn.to/3rVy3KD
Good luck with your installations and may your bass hit hard!

[@22alexrodriguez]

DUDE! All of this is much cheaper than the kicker amp/sub kit the dealer was going to do! I think you just saved me a ton of money and most likely much better sound - thank you!

[@chenito781]

Thank you, I been waiting for a video on how to get behind the dashboard, really helped me.

[@ckm8508]

Beautiful setup. Thanks for making it easier for the rest of us. That ground mount location is clean af

[@sonnyr4203]

Thanks for the tips, I installed my line-out converter, amp, and sub today.

[@CameronKelson]

Love it! Hope it sounds every bit as good as you hoped!

[@krehbein]

4:02 for anyone doing this put a little blue painters tape on the dash before prying it too prevent marking/scratches

[@krehbein]

Thanks for sharing, lot of good tips. The ground wire mount behind the rear seat is good to know, saves a lot of wire routing for the ground to the battery. 👍

[@alpo723]

...THANKS Mann 💪🏾mine is a 2022 5.0..i wasn't gonna add subs until i watched this

[@RiptideF1]

Thank you for making this video!!! Glad to see how easy it's going to be!

[@RiptideF1]

How do these stock speakers sound anyways? Do I need to plan on upgrading right away or does adding some subs do the trick?

[@BassFever4Ever]

Thanks for doing this video! I just bought a 2021 and am thinking about installing an amp and subs. I had a 2018 but never had the time. Funny enough, I think I have the same Pioneer amp. What my plan is have one box for under the seat and one box for all out fun lol. 10's during the week and 15's on the weekend. :-)

[@raulguajardo1206]

Good job making this video, I also used the Scosche line output converter. Had it for about a week now, working good so far. Ordered from Amazon but ended up getting an open item, returned it and got one from WalMart. I don't like using the front speakers for my sub output, so I found a speaker wiring diagram for my 2021 Supercrew F150 and hooked them up to the rear speakers instead. Sounds great, I got a 1600W amp with 2 dual coil 8" subwoofers.

[@rockriv5029]

Do you still have that wiring diagram or location/colors?

[@raulguajardo1206]

@@rockriv5029 I do, not sure how to share it though.

[@jayamerican5390]

@@raulguajardo1206 Do you have the speaker wire colors +/- for the RR and LR? I am thinking on doing the same as you. Thanks!

[@raulguajardo1206]

@@jayamerican5390 I do, how do I share it with you?

[@Dave-uu3hu]

@@rockriv5029 if you still have it I'll share my email of you would please

[@ryandubyah2345]

That was a fantastic video, thank you so much!! I’ve had my subs, box and amp just dying to be installed in my ‘21 302A and this video will help me finally get it done!!

[@krisbrown5322]

be sure to share what info u learned.

[@ryandubyah2345]

@@krisbrown5322 oh I will. Soon as the issues I’ve had with the motor stop and I can keep my baby out of the shop for more than a couple months, lol!

[@drewnizzle11]

Great vid! Thank you! There is not much info out on the 2021s yet.

[@dbwiskus]

B and O you cannot use the speaker wires behind the radio since there is a factory amp. I used the factory sub speaker wires to feed my LOC

[@daltonburdick3471]

Do you have photos of how you hooked all the wires up

[@dbwiskus]

@daltonburdick3471 I do not sorry. But if you go to the connector plug on the factory sub there are 4 wired feeding it. I believe two have a black stripe. Those will be the negative speaker and the other two are the positive

[@Dustinscustoms]

just did my 2021 f150 t tap the back from seat belt panel power through the passenger side floor grommet

[@hunterknight323]

I have a similar setup in my truck. Sounds great!

[@LongNguyen-dd6tz]

Thank you for showing us, it is very helpful

[@carlspackler91]

Thanx for sharing your info after all of your hard work!

[@rustbeltrobclassic2512]

for anyone interested in doing door speakers, front pillars are 1in silk speakers, doors are 6x9's the kicker ks series front and 6.5 rears are a direct swap. thanks for the details

[@drewzx3]

Was it worth upgrading?

[@rustbeltrobclassic2512]

@@drewzx3 Oh yeah, made a huge difference in sound over the stock speakers.

[@drewzx3]

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 no Amp on them?

[@rustbeltrobclassic2512]

@@drewzx3 Nope, stock wiring, stock harness, the KS Kicker has the correct adapters in the box and the mounting kit lines right up. I did add dynomat to the doors when i installed the speakers to get rid of a rattle i had, but otherwise, directly installed, no amp.. lows were way more present, and highs were much clearer.. i had the B&O in my old truck, the speakers imo sound better than the B&O did.. and were way cheaper.. If you want to add bass though, the 2015-2023 B&O subwoofer will fit any 2015-2023 super crew 150, just find one at a salvage yard.. then install it.. the wiring harness is installed on all of the 150's with or without the B&O, you'll need the dealer to activate it in the infotainment system, they charged be 75.00 to activate it.. but honestly, the kickers are a night and day difference alone.

[@dragonfiredoomlava7220]

Nice video. Saved me time working on a hot day.!

[@wisstx9024]

Much appreciated. Thank you for the walkthrough!

[@leevongilmore2070]

Nice only thing you probably should wire you power wire on the passenger side away from your speaker wires and rca cables

[@michaelrowland9991]

Thank you for such a good and detailed video

[@corpse0clock914]

I just followed this to install on my 2022. Was easy peasy. Shit makes me nervous tapping I to the wiring like that but I got over myself. Sounds great tho. Take a bit for the amp to turn off, and soon as I open a door it turns on again, jeep checking it over and over again every few hours to make sure the amp actually turns off tho. I'm sure I'll get over myself eventually. Thanks for the Video tho

[@Signatureofheaven]

You can tap into a fuse in your fuse box location that allows for the amplifier to turn on when you turn the vehicle on and it goes off when you turn the vehicle off. This is definitely a great way to setup your system. You won't have an issue with the waybyoubhave it hooked up, but using a fuse that works with ignition on/off just helps ease the mind.

[@noscamaross]

Great video, thank you for making it.

[@LivinWith3M]

Nice setup Cameron, New subscriber here man.

[@CameronKelson]

Thanks man! I actually hit you with a sub back cause that truck of yours is sick!

[@giovannitalavera21]

Would this setup work with kicker hideaway?

[@ronniepercy2324]

Love the video and the attention to detail that you provided. Is it possible to have you post or email the actual speaker box diagram? I would like to take it to one of the local high schools and see if I can have them make the box for me. Thanks again for the content.

[@RydinginStyle72]

Awesome video. Thank you!

[@jorgethefatkartdriver]

Great Video man thanks for sharing!

[@calvinrgrant]

Thanks a lot your video help me out a lot.

[@justojrodriguez5485]

Thank you very much! Great video

[@jonlauney-or3nc]

Awesome video thanks for sharing

[@Dzzzzdub]

Awesome vid thanks

[@joseloslopez985]

🤭 good video, next couple months is coming lost communication problem with modules and Sync radio burn up.

[@reggiemurphy7028]

Thank you!!!! I have the same truck

[@austingroves665]

How did you mount the amp to the back wall? I've seen wood glued to the back wall under the carpet then screwing through the carpet to people just screwing directly to the carpet (but not into the metal) since it's not very heavy.

[@CameronKelson]

I've done the wood trick in the past, and it's worked nicely. This time around though I just poked holes through the carpet and just zip tied the amp right to the carpet, no wood this time. It's been there coming up on 3 years now and has been totally fine and plenty secure.

[@NatiFaninFL]

Has anyone else had an absolute nightmare getting the black harness clip back in? I just had it kick my A** tonight for over an hour. I couldn't get it back into place.

[@piazzadriver]

There is a easier way now get a plug and play with a Lc2i pro. Come with 17 feet of cable . Plus able to do sub and door speakers. I imagine when this video was made truck was too new so you could not get a plug and play yet

[@cmart0125]

How did you tune your amp and head unit. Did you place the head unit bass to zero and turn up the gain on the amp? I seem to get no bass unless I turn up the head unit bass.

[@donearl6675]

👍😎❗

[@craigeliasi4450]

What about the 12v shutoff for the amplifier

[@CameronKelson]

The line output converter that I chose provides the turn on and off signal for the amplifier. If the unit is receiving power and a speaker signal, it will provide the signal for the amp to be on, if the unit's not receiving power or a speaker signal then it will stop providing the 12v signal.

[@MistrZIGZAG]

With a box that size you’d honestly probably get the same output with a single 10”

[@ems383]

Great video! I have the same XLT, looking for amp(I see you used a Pioneer) These sound sites(Crutchfield) don’t have the speaker sizes or have any research on this type of truck. I know the front is 6x9 and rear are 6.5 so they say. Looking for speakers and amp. What did you use? Thank you

[@darrickhock]

Done a great video

[@dougmann5362]

It’s tough getting the left black harness plug connected. No luck yet and don’t want to pull the trim and radio.

[@CameronKelson]

It did take me a bit to manage to get it plugged back in. Just another half inch would have helped a ton. Good luck with your install.

[@alejandraquintanilla570]

Thanks for video just wanted to know how you secured the amp thanks

[@jonathanmatthews1728]

What about the wire colors for the rear speakers?

[@detroitisback8021]

GREAT VIDEO. HELL YEAH!!!! Couple questions or question i should say.... Soo I've installed a few of my vehicles with the line out converter and have never had a problem. I just got a 2023 f150 xlt or sport whatever you want to call it... I don't have a B&O system. On previous vehicles, it's always left me to remove the door panel and tapping into the speaker wire. There are so many different packages/Trim models but I'm assuming it's the same. ( hopefully) Is it safe to say from anyone in the comments or the gentleman in this video that I can go the same route on my model F-150? If I can enter the speaker wiring right at the factory radio or behind it, that's going to be awesome. I would assume for the 2023 model The wire diagram/colors for the speaker wire would be the same as presented in this video? Also where did you tap your remote wire into. I'd assume a fuse Givin whete you showed the wire. Maybe I missed you saying it. Apologize if so. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[@CameronKelson]

Hey man, I can't say for sure that the wiring will be the exact same, but I would imagine so. Regarding the remote wire, the LOC that I used has a remote wire out to the amp - if the LOC is getting power it sends a signal down the remote wire. If it's not the remote wire gets no signal and the amp will shut off. Not sure how common that is on LOCs in general but the one I used does that. Hope that helps, good luck setting up a kickin system.

[@fe6646]

Whats a good affordable amp/woofer system kit for a 2021+ f150 super crew.

[@81recinos]

Nice bro

[@davidperez4358]

Nice video man. Do you plan on Upgrading the door speakers?

[@CameronKelson]

Thanks! Yeah at some point I probably will. I upgraded the speakers in my 2017 and while it definitely improved the sound, it wasn't super drastic. The speakers in these aren't the total garbage that you get in something like a Kia or a Toyota or something. I was surprised at the size of the magnet, quality of the cone and surround etc. on my last truck's stock speakers. But yeah at some point I probably will.

[@jayshafer16]

I have the 21 with the B&o system in it and I am looking to upgrade it as soon as possible with adding amps and subs. I want to find out what integration piece I need to use to bypass the amps. I used the audio control dq61 in my 17 F-150 but wasn't sure about the 21

[@erickmedina3834]

I am trying to do the same thing, and I have the B&O system on my 2022 as well let me know if you find anything out. Thank you!

[@cjones2898]

Following

[@jayshafer16]

@@cjones2898 mine came out nice

[@krisbrown5322]

depends if u have the b&o or the Sony system. pretty sure the b&o u will need nav tv piece that goes behind the rear drivers side seat.

[@jamesf1505]

Zen A to B because you have the B&O. It's a lil Pricey too lol. About $700 last I saw

[@chrissmith1608]

Great video. I just did this install yesterday on my 2023. For some reason I am not getting any audio from my subwoofers even though I’m getting power to the line out converter and amplifier. Did you have to do anything to the factory head unit/Settings to get it to work?

[@CameronKelson]

Dang, sorry to hear that man. I didn't have to tweak any settings. The install should just mirror the audio from your front (or rear as some people choose) speakers to your sub. If your LOC and amp are both powered on I would check that the speaker signal is good from the head unit to the LOC - check all connections or taps to make sure it's all the right wires and connected properly. I believe there's a way to check that tapped wires are connected properly by playing a test tone and checking for voltage with a multimeter, although I've never done that. If that's all good double check that the RCA from the LOC to the amp is good. If that's all good then you double check the speaker connection from your amp to your subs - make sure everything is wired for the resistance of your subs, etc. Good luck dude, hope you're bumpin soon.

[@JayRSwan]

Were you able to check if the front left and right are full-frequency channels? Mine came with the factory sub, and I used it for the LOC. The problem I'm having is that it actually cuts the lows after about 9 on the volume and after about 14 on the volume it also reduces the voltage output. I assume to protect the crappy factory sub.

[@CameronKelson]

On mine it appears to be, but I don't have the factory sub, so I'm not sure if they cut the frequency on the other sound packages.

[@krisbrown5322]

do you have a complete speaker wire diagram for all the speakers and remote turn on ?

[@jayamerican5390]

I have the same truck/system. I was thinking about adding a self powered 8 or 10" sub. Would there be any pros/cons to just tapping into the rear speakers with the Scosche LOC? Are the red connectors you used just a wire splice connector? Also, does anyone have the rear speaker color/diagram? Thanks for the video!

[@CameronKelson]

Whether you tap into the front or rear speakers is usually personal preference. I chose the fronts as I believe the rears are used for the backup sensor sound and I didn't want that going to the subs. But honestly either work. Yes, the red connectors are wire splice connectors. Just close them around the wire that you're tapping into then connect the new wire into the side. Colors for the rear speakers are LR+ White & green, LR- Brown & Yellow. RR+ Brown & White, RR- Brown and blue

[@Driftwood93]

Did your truck have a factory sub and amp? I have a 2018 platinum and want to put a new sub and amp. Guys at crutch field said I’d need a load balancer or something with the factory radio. Did you need one of those?

[@MikeLanni-sy7fl]

Do I tie the remote wire from the LOC to the 12V Purple wire then Tee off to amp?

[@markkennon]

Thanks for posting this! Can you tell me what I use for the sub output from non-B&O head unit?

[@moosedfd1]

Total cu ft is that per side or the whole box

[@YTsurferr]

Ok, total novice here, I learned a ton watching your video then reading up on your components. So the amp is just powering your 2 subs? Do you have another amp feeding the 4 doors? Did you change the speakers at all? Or is the rest of the system stock?

[@CameronKelson]

The rest of the system is stock. The unit behind the screen with the speaker wires coming out of it is the factory amp. That powers the 7 different speakers (4 door speakers, 2 pillar tweeters, and center dash speaker). The amp that I installed only powers my two subs.

[@travisc3571]

How does it sound? Can you post something with the sound?

[@marcm8209]

Great info, I ran the power on the other size through the firewall. Grounded behind backseat on the floor. Appreciate the video! Have you had any issues with the ground? So easy to hide the wires on an f150 /and most fords too.

[@CameronKelson]

Nope, over 2 years later and the system still sounds great! Nice clean bass.

[@marcm8209]

@@CameronKelson Thanks, I heard grounding points are not reliable. I just installed a sub amp and grounded behind the back seat. Only tested one song tonight. Seemed okay so far :) Good to hear all is okay.

[@fluidic756]

Thanks for the video. Couple of questions: About how many feet of wire did you need the power cable from the battery to the amp? About how many feet of wire did you need to run the RCAs from the LOC to the amp?

[@CameronKelson]

The power cable was 17 feet and barely reached, since the battery's on the other side of the engine bay. If there's an easy way to get through the firewall on the passenger side you could do it with less cable. The RCAs I also used a 17 ft cord but I didn't need all of it, so probably more like 10 or 12 feet is all I needed

[@fluidic756]

@@CameronKelson Thank you!

[@aleksandardelov7606]

On the 22 I am seeing purple and brown and a solid white I am not seeing white and brown can someone confirm for them this is correct before I fry my entire system out

[@TheJoeur]

👍🏻 nice

[@kristophersheckels6516]

Would this work for a ford lightening 2022?

[@I-Sharted1]

How do you power the door speakers?

[@shaynea543]

I have the exact truck configuration. Is it a 4ohm system? I was thinking of putting the infinity Kappa series speakers in the doors but they are 2ohm speakers. Thoughts?

[@CameronKelson]

Not completely sure to be honest with you. On my last truck, a 2017, the door speakers were indeed 4 ohm, so I would be surprised if the impedance was different on these newer trucks. I've heard of guys putting higher impedance speakers in their trucks supposedly with success, although if it were me I think I would keep it the same.

[@Signatureofheaven]

I would add 2 ohm Infinity Kappa speakers if I am going to use an aftermarket amplifier to run them. Food for thought, any time you replace a certain ohm speaker, use the same ohm load speaker unless you're using an aftermarket amplifier, this will help avoid ohm load issues and causing your factory headunit from overheating or being overpowered and causing issues.

[@jamesf1505]

I have a 2021 f150 with that identical radio but I'm installing kicker key 200.4 active front stage and 500.1 amp. Will I need a different line converter???

[@jamesf1505]

Front stage will be Alpine X series 6x9 component set. Rear doors will be Alpine R series 6.5 coaxial running on radio power. Kicker L7T 12in Subwoofer box run by the 500.1

[@ryanmaas4030]

Awesome video! What wire taps were you using?

[@CameronKelson]

I got them on Amazon! There's a link to them in the description.

[@evanpainter3482]

I have the same f150 black

[@louiestup3452]

Just curious would you happen to know, If it would be the same steps for installation with a B&O system with the small stock subwoofer?

[@CameronKelson]

I think that a sub could be installed in a similar way, but there's probably a better way to do it for the B&O system. There's a couple threads that I've seen on F150Forums where people share what they did for their B&O systems, but I don't know the whole process off the top of my head. So maybe check there? Best of luck.

[@Tesla210]

I replaced the stock B&O sub with 2 x 12” down fire under the rear seat. I used the high level wires from the B&O sub to feed the high level input on my amp. The Kenwood amp I’m using has input sense so it turns on when the factory head unit turns on. If your truck doesn’t have a factory sub the wire harness is hidden back behind the carpet behind the rear drivers side seat. It just needs to be turned on with forscan.

[@erickmedina3834]

@polonium210 i am really interest on how you installed your subs from the factory amp & using the other amp, can you please show me a picture how??

[@krisbrown5322]

the b&o factory system has a dedicated sub output that you can tape in to.

[@alextrainor2552]

That scosche loc is junk compared to the audio control Lci models, might want to consider upgrading

[@louieturner8149]

Awesome video. Which converter did you use to connect to the the head unit if you don’t mind me asking.

[@CameronKelson]

It's a Scosche LOC. There's a link in the description for it!

[@LuisGarcia-we2ny]

Do you have to hook up all the wires on the LOC to make it work like 12v and ground or can I just hook up speakers and receive signal with remote wire

[@nextlevelhealthfitnesst8767]

Yeah, that’s what I’m wondering because it includes everything in the wiring diagram. Besides the book the remote wire would be.

[@suaverp2170]

Did you replace door speakers? If so, which ones? If not, how is the total sound with subs and stock speakers? I'm trying to get a quote, and don't know if I want to replace all door speakers plus a 10"

[@CameronKelson]

I haven't replaced them yet but I will eventually. The Ford stock speakers are actually better than any other stock speaker I've every pulled out of a vehicle. They aren't great, but they aren't anything like what I hear in Hyundais and Hondas. So it sounds pretty decent with just some extra thump. I actually think that some decent tweeters will be my next move, and speakers last if I still feel there's going to be enough of a benefit.

[@emmanuelsimmons9398]

Hey man nice setup quick question, did you have to raise the back seat to fit the box? The company building my box charging me an extra $200 to raise the back seat.

[@CameronKelson]

As in permanently modify the seat? Nope. With the dimensions that I made my box (which are in the video) the box fits perfectly underneath the seat at the stock height. Seems ridiculous to me that a company would rather modify the seat than the box

[@krisbrown5322]

@ simmons what size subs r u going with and how many also r u planning a ported or sealed box.

[@coolvid60]

I installed subs and amp into my truck but it keeps going into deep sleep which is preventing me from remote starting it. Any advice?

[@Signatureofheaven]

How did you wire it up? You shouldn't have any issue with it remote starting. May be a wire you tapped into that is causing it not to remote start.

[@hawaiiisparadise8405]

Any Tips on getting the wires down to the footwell? I’ve Been at it for a while and I cant seem to get it close enough towards the steering column to fish it out.

[@CameronKelson]

If I remember correctly what I did was adjust the steering wheel up all the way, and that created enough of a gap for me to get my hand in between the steering wheel column and the surrounding trim, and I was able to reach up and fish for the wires with my hand. It was still a tight fit though, might be easier to try and take the trim off around the wheel...

[@hawaiiisparadise8405]

Cameron Kelson, thank you so much! The vid helped a ton! Pulling the trim around the column did the trick.

[@duffbeerman4115]

Where did you get the box

[@Htx.alexis713]

So can I connect the remote wire for the amp to the purple wire?

[@CameronKelson]

I suppose you could try it, however the LOC that I used provides its own remote signal so I connected my remote wire to my LOC

[@ProShotz762]

Hey man was wondering after your install, did the beeps for the backup camera and the ford chime stop playing through the speakers and instead through the dash? Just got my sub and amp put in and unfortunately they stopped playing through the speakers.

[@CameronKelson]

Hmm no all those things still seem totally normal in my truck. The backup sensors especially I know still come through the rear speakers

[@krisbrown5322]

just wondering here 🤔 but did you change your speakers and put them on a amp. if so this may be why they stopped playing.

[@jadevegh]

Hey need some advice. I have a 2021 f-150 xlt same as yours basically. Did everything in this video and listed on the forum got everything connected using the exact same line converter. However my amp isn’t turning on as it should with the remote wire. It won’t turn on at all unless I physically hold the remote wire to the power prong and remote prong on my amp. And obviously it shuts off when it’s not being touched on both ends. I’ve checked my splicers and everything is connected. I can’t figure it out haha any advice would be appreciated.

[@CameronKelson]

Sent you message on the forum!

[@erickmedina3834]

I have the same problem any advice please??

[@jasonlassiter4490]

Just use an lc2i makes it much simpler

[@victorkoons189]

Can I tap into the rear speakers to achieve the same outcome? I have the 8” sync 4

[@CameronKelson]

Yup you sure could

[@johnthurman5248]

Got a dumb question what size gauge is the factory harness wires?

[@CameronKelson]

Hmm not sure exactly. But the taps that I used were for 22-18 gauge wire and they worked well

[@ratpack2927]

Great video, mine is an XL so I don't have the speaker in the dash. Did you just connect to the left and right fronts for input? I am looking at doing this, but thinking about picking up the rear speakers for inputs since they are located in the B pillars, closer to the rear. I assume the downfall of either way is losing the subs if faded to the other speakers.

[@CameronKelson]

I did connect to the fronts. The reason I didn't do the rears is because I have the backup sensors that beep through the rear speakers. But honestly I think either will work fine. Good luck with your install!

[@ratpack2927]

@@CameronKelson Thanks, I have the back up sensors as well, so good to know that info. Did you find the door speakers capable of keeping up with the added bass from the subwoofers?

[@CameronKelson]

@@ratpack2927 It depends on how much bass you've got but even with my 2 twelves I think they do pretty good. Way better than most of the stock speakers I come across. But I also don't blast my music full volume either. Still I listen pretty loud sometimes. In my last truck (a 2017 F150) I replaced the speakers with some expensive 3-ways and while there was a definite difference in the clarity of the highs it wasn't as huge as I had hoped for the money, so for now I'm just kind of leaving the stock speakers. Personal opinion is that unless you're a major audiophile the stocks do just fine.

[@ratpack2927]

@@CameronKelson I will be doing two 10" subs. I just want to make sure when I turn it up, the bass doesn't drown out the factory speakers. I just want to add the punch and clarity, loud was for when I was younger. LOL!!

[@CameronKelson]

@@ratpack2927 Nice, I did two 10" subs in my last truck. It sounded great even before the new speakers as long as the amp gain wasn't too high. I think it'll be exactly what you're looking for!

[@thaboiimarcos9459]

Can you do a video of a demo

[@jameskorotko1878]

Thank you, By the way what wheels you running on you truck.

[@CameronKelson]

Fuel Blitz 20x9 in black

[@Frostyy14--]

Isn't it bad to run the RCAs on the same side as the power wire? Or is that not a big deal

[@CameronKelson]

The common belief is that it is bad to run them on the same side since it creates the possibility of introducing noise through the RCAs. But I've done it both ways - run it on the same side and on opposite sides and never heard any discernible difference. The quality of the RCA cables supposedly makes a difference too, with certain cable types being better and having more shielding against noise. Ultimately my desire to have a easy and quick install trumps my desire to possibly have less noise that might make a difference so small I probably couldn't tell anyways... 🤷‍♂️

[@gordonw6920]

Can I tap the center speaker you take out to get a sub input with line level converter? Just looking for sub input...

[@CameronKelson]

You could try, but I don't think I would do it. Sometimes the factory amps send modified signals to smaller speakers/tweeters like that, so you don't get the full frequency range that you'd get with the signal to the full-size speakers. But I could be wrong here, so if you do it and it works let me know, that certainly would be easier than tapping into the two front speakers.

[@gordonw6920]

@@CameronKelson Ok. That was my one concern ...they were crossing it for highs only. I will put an oscilloscope on it so I can see if it is full range. I will let you know if it works. Thank you for the GREAT info!!

[@janixaudio7751]

By any chance do you know if the 2022 would be the same? Doing a amp install with line out converter tomorrow I’m hoping it’s like yours 🙏 plz lmk if you know or not if the Ford F-150 2022 is the same as yours ty

[@CameronKelson]

I'm not 100% sure, but I would imagine that yes as long as the package is the same the stereo setup would be the same.

[@janixaudio7751]

Ok ty

[@janixaudio7751]

Ok I did it your way and no good, that’s a high level out put signal. If you have the subwoofer behind the seat tap into that you’ll see a little green plug that’s the signal you want for your amp but if everything is working for you then right on but if you tap into the sun you’ll have a lot more bass

[@CameronKelson]

@@janixaudio7751 Ahh see mine is a different package than yours, mine doesn't have a factory sub. That's what the line out converter is for is to convert from the high-level speaker signals to a low-level RCA for the amp. Glad you got it working though! Congrats!

[@janixaudio7751]

Ya have the B&O but ya used the wiring diagram you showed which were indeed the fronts but just had zero bass coming from the sub sucks cause I had it all already ran and looking pretty but I quickly realized that it has a sub behind the back seat and that JL started hitting like no one’s business haha but thank you for post how to access the head unit know I know for the future. Your video helped me out ty again 🙏

[@wakevictim]

Idk if your amp has a power light but I just did the exact same install using the same LOC using your wire diagram and my amp power light never turns off. The only way it turns off is when I disconnect the signal wire from the LOC. Did you have the same issue?

[@CameronKelson]

My amp does have a power light and it does turn off. It's not immediate though, it takes a couple minutes after shutting the truck off. As long as the LOC is correctly tapped to both the speaker wires and a 12v it should turn off after not too long. Best of luck!

[@wakevictim]

@@CameronKelson thanks for the reply. Maybe I haven’t let it sit long enough for it to turn off. Everything else works great just like it should and I followed your tutorial. I look forward to moving in a year where I live close to a shop that can do a full DSP install so I can use the rest of my 5 channel amp with my upgraded speakers.

[@wakevictim]

@@CameronKelson thanks for the reply. Maybe I haven’t let it sit long enough for it to turn off. Everything else works great just like it should and I followed your tutorial. I look forward to moving in a year where I live close to a shop that can do a full DSP install so I can use the rest of my 5 channel amp with my upgraded speakers.

[@robertl.wagner8862]

My issue seems to be some sort of block? I had speaker/amp installed at a shop, sounded great but didn’t work a few hours later, it came back on this morning and then went off again. They said something about a block in the radio that shuts off the left side and amp. Heard of this? Any fix?

[@nextlevelhealthfitnesst8767]

So you ran a remote wire out from the converter, but nothing into the converter for remote wire?

[@TheMontoya760]

What do you connect the remote wires from amp too?

[@CameronKelson]

The line out converter that I use has a remote wire connection

[@gsxr1000jt]

I hate that Ford made the eq so bass gets cut. It's rediculous...

[@connerellsworth8736]

Don’t know if you mentioned this in the video but did your truck have active nose cancellation? I know on a lot of new vehicles it’s an issue it they have it

[@CameronKelson]

Nope nothing that fancy on the XLT I'm afraid

[@danielgraham7905]

Hello! How did you mount the amp to the back?

[@noaholiver3745]

is this the same for a 2018 and can you hookup without your converter?

[@CameronKelson]

No, it's a little bit different for an '18. It's just a little more involved on those year trucks. I did it on my 17 and it wasn't too bad but it was more to take out of the dash than this truck. And yeah, you're probably going to want to use a converter. Some amps do allow for high-level inputs (so straight from the speakers) so technically you could extend wires from the speakers to your amp, but that gets a little complex and I've always found it easier to just use a converter unless you're working with like speakers in the back deck of a sedan that you can access from the trunk...

[@ricadodugazon4907]

We need to hear the sub

[@jlstokes12]

Does downfiring the subs make a difference

[@CameronKelson]

Not in my opinion in terms of sound, at least with a sealed box like I have. But I prefer to downfire them as I have a rigid floor that I can create space for the subs to move, whereas if I fired them up they would be facing the underside of the seat which is tougher to create a level even space for the movement of the subs.