2021 Focus Sam2 Review - SERIOUSLY capable electric mountain bike

[@RobRidesEMTB]

170mm BOMBER! What a bike! What do you guys all think? Let me know below👇

[@MTBs]

That fork alone says it all I think! 👍

[@CoyoteMTB77]

I’m going to put that 38 on my Kenevo, it just makes sense

[@donnpassMTB]

@@CoyoteMTB77 get zeb ultimate for me better performer then 38 and not that expensive, have both.

[@CoyoteMTB77]

Donn Pass blimey to have both is nice but I have the Factory 36 on my analog and it’s buttery

[@donnpassMTB]

@@CoyoteMTB77 i agree i had 36 before you can go wrong with any of these, if have to choose which one to go then zeb only money and performance top....

[@kylemiddleton848]

i've watched this video about 15 times, it's so ood and welly filmed and thought out. i've recently purchased the last Sam2 in my country and have fully kitted it with a mullet set up, thanks heaps for the inspiration rob

[@johnherbert5919]

Thanks Rob, I bought a Sam2 based on this review and I really like it. I am still at 29 29 because I use it more as a long travel Trail bike. At 6.5 tall I love the geometry. Keep up the great reviews.

[@Constantin1020]

Hey John, Do you have any Motor ratling on your bike? Thanks

[@johnherbert5919]

@@Constantin1020 No its quiet.

[@ShaneJackson]

I put an order in for this bike a while ago but even though my dealer had preordered ages ago the wait was going to be may 2021 😢 The other bike I wanted was the whyte e 180 2021 and my dealer managed to get one within two weeks so I snapped it up and I absolutely love it! It is so nimble it's just unreal!

[@SamsBikes]

Another cracking review Rob.... I love the look of the new Sam and what a name haha

[@philwebb606]

Sam are you gonna be reviewing this bike?

[@jam2junkie339]

I think the SAM2 Is calling you for a review Sam.....and hopefully Focus.Look forward to your review also🤙🏻

[@danhigh7029]

Thanks for the review Rob. Would be interesting to see how the lower spec 6.8 model performs with the Zeb fork.

[@thetrailtrawler2602]

This is absolutely what I’d want from an E bike it’s awesome

[@R120-r4k]

Great vid boys! Tempted by this but holding out to see what the new Privateer rides like!

[@kawaZR1000]

Great review as always. The Sam2 really seems to be a very capable e-bike so far. The only, but for me essential, disadvantage is the low system weight of only 120kg with rider, although the bike itself is quite heavy at almost 26kg and is made from Aluminum. Moustache for the new Samedi 29 Game Series offers a system weight of 150kg. And also does YT for the Decoy.

[@tcw95NZ]

So does Specialized Kenevo! Totally agree, 120kg overall weight is really pushing it for someone over 6ft, even a skinny 6'2" man will be around 80kg, plus 5kg gear, plus 26kg bike = 111kg. Dunno how anyone heavier or taller is supposed to ride it.

[@madmountainman5197]

@Tasunke 1.98m here and 107kg's, so the all up weight's not very good at all. If the likes of Mondraker can build the Level R - which is this bike's direct competitor - with an all up weight of 152kg's on an alloy frame, I don't see why Focus can't do the same. Just what is the point of making an XL frame with geometry that's almost perfect for the six and a half footers, when most of us weigh in over 95kg?

[@TheBikePilot]

These published weights are not uniform across brands. Some state with rider, others without. Most, if not all, are going to handle above any stated weight. Same as my bike rack..It’s an EU certification thing. I’ve never heard of anyone online saying a brand walked away from a warranty claim as someone was above Max all up weight..The weak point may be a component rather than the frame.

[@madmountainman5197]

Being aware of the component issue i.e. wheels, bars or stem likely to underperform, I asked Focus directly and received this response. Hi Rich, Many thanks for your mail and your interest in our bike! It's depending in the frame as well. Currently the maximum system weight is120 kg for that bike(bike + rider + package). But we are working on new tests that will allow us to release more weight releases in categories. Unfortunately, we can not yet say when we will be able to release them finally. All the best, Anja @@TheBikePilot

[@megane230f1]

I think when you have a man like mike kluge who knows what he would want from a bike working on a design of a bike, you’re going to get a bike thats got the dna from a world champion.

[@franciscosegura1960]

Another perfect video to enjoy with all the wise explanations only Rob knows how to create. Again, worth watching again, not only once. Thanks for the good work you do, Rob. From Almería, Spain

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks Fran!

[@GvnS360]

Nice review Rob. The cheaper model is on my list along with the Trek rail 9. Any plans to do a review of the trek? Too many nice bikes out there to choose from. I'm sure I'll add a few more by the time I'm ready to buy one.

[@ManxFella]

Great videos your making, Rob! I'm in the market for a Bosch powered e bike and your vids are some of the best reviews I've seen. This bike is a major contender if I don't have to wait 12 years to get one!

[@ericwods]

Hi Rob- love your v-blog and passion for all things eMTB. The Focus SMA2 looks intriguing but the critical lesson I have learned from my first 12 months as an eMTB owner (Levo Turbo) is the nearby location of supporting dealer network. Maybe I am blessed/spoilt by been located too close to Berkshire Bikes and Chris and his awesome team. A big part of the purchasing decision has to be just how good is the local dealer and based on my personal experience I would only ever buy from Berkshire Bike as their customer service has been exceptional (again based on my personal experience and what I observed while in the store).

[@adrianhrusca4067]

Rob has a video when he points that aspect very clear. Some brands sell bikes at a lower price, online, but if / when in trouble, you are screwed. Radeon, YT etc. Others rip you off, but, when needed, you get service.

[@cavsri]

For me that was the best video you've made yet. Really good, honest, concise review and great camera work. An interesting review would be the Focus against the Specialized Kenevo Expert that you have as it's more a full on DH oriented Ebike plus I've got one and I'd like to hear your thoughts. I love mine but I'm always looking for the next bike like us all!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@giddyup3451]

Cables integrated into the head stem are worth a mention, very tidy set up.

[@paulbatkin2892]

I've got the more basic Adventure 2, 3 grand, love it, but having difficulty getting hold of the 2nd battery, itll then do 150miles on low and 100 genuinely on Turbo. Its heavy but bloody well built. I does everything I need it to do.

[@joelopic]

Great video and a real beauty. Apart from the ridiculous cable integration thing which makes small mods so difficult. They seem to have almost have created a masterpiece. Nice looking machine too.

[@speedrepublic5270]

Love this. The same money gets you a 2021 Commencal Meta Power SX 27 Race, granted ones a 29er and ones a 27.5.. i cant decide! Great review and editing Rob.

[@dannysimpson3778]

Nice Review, really like this. Had my first ride on a Commencal Meta Power E-MTB last Friday. I honestly havent stopped watching ebike reviews and browsing the web since. Where my local trails are its steep and im old at 46 and struggling a bit on my new Reign. The E-MTB is the way to go for me. Right kids no Chrissy presents dads buying us all a joint ebike!

[@kyleslater5245]

Now that makes more sense. For me ebike means lots of travel. I can get myself to the top with 140 mm travel. If I, bringing a battery I want more travel. Not sure if I’m sold on the single pivot linkage driven suspension they use but I’d be tempted to try it if I found it in my area to try. I would not order it without trying it out though.

[@stephprime]

Awesome review dude! Love it! Deciding between this and the YT Decoy Shred - I think that the Focus has some better components on it….

[@scruby_music]

Watched this after upgraded my Jam2 to the Sam2! Definitely going a mullet. Thanks Rob!

[@nicholashooper9935]

Great review Rob, That's a Awesome bike but the horrible screen/mode controler let's it down. Surely Bocsh has to change it soon

[@andrewgent5675]

Great review Rob, thanks for that. Only downer is that you can't get one until April. I had one on order and decided to cancel in favour of a Whyte E180-RS V2 which thanks to Je James Chesterfield, I have already got it. Keep up the good work.

[@andrewgent5675]

@Brendan Tovey Giant Reign X.

[@andrewgent5675]

@Brendan Tovey All I can say so far about the Whyte is WOW WOW WOW. The suspension once set up correctly is amazing. The new Fox 38 factory fork is a real game changer.

[@TheNandis67]

Great Videos, Rob. Congrats. This bike is really great.

[@topheavy7616]

Great video. 29er or mullet or 27.5 with short chain stays. 3 bikes in one - what a great design by Focus.

[@nickolp-it7bo]

Nice review Rob and a lovely looking bike, bit weighty though!

[@alesbastl7716]

I SO love mine!! Had it for more than a year now and cannot fault it. The only thing I’d say is that this bike should have been sold as a mullet with the shorter wheelbase flip chip position. It makes it a ripper for the UK trails 🤙🏻

[@tonygee3284]

This is going to be my next bike its a beast Great review Sam I am sold

[@thim8009]

Nice job always love watching your vids. Would you mullet out your levo. I thought about it, then said no and now thinking about it. You could get a linkage from a stumpy, i think.

[@stephenbrown5844]

Excellent Rob, much appreciated mate thanks for the footage 😍🇬🇧👍

[@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120]

So beautiful bike!!! Looks like the Specialized Enduro but with a motor. Would you describe the Haibike AllMtn 7 an all rounder bike as you did with the Sam2? Nice review, keep up the good work!

[@kentmoore6874]

Another great video Rob. Thanks !

[@DrGeorginaCook]

Great review, I have last years Sam2 but the new one looks great, apart from 3-4kg in weight !

[@mattrichardson3005]

I agree , I am happy with my 2020 6.8 , 22kg , have spare battery but never need it . And the price then was $2500 cheaper , put newer air spring 180 mm , small mod in damper and she rips . Curious how a coil shock in rear would make it even better .Great bikes

[@adrianhrusca4067]

@@mattrichardson3005 how does the motor last? Heard they are not very reliable.

[@smtkelly]

Having only every had coil shocks, I rather my next bike had an air one for easy set up (I know the spec down has one but I want the bling). I think weight is a consideration, I'm not a weight weener I've ridden mostly heavy acoustic bikes because at that time (yes I'm old, who remembers Hi5 forks) 150+ travel meant a heavy bike. But I believe a bike has 2 lots of unsprung mass 1. the wheels and 2. the bike under the rider. An extra 2kg is like doing tap dance with a 1kg weight in each shoe (I know that's flawed yes you can pop the suspension, but not always). My wrists are crackered, gone (along with my hair) are the days I can haul my Super8 above my head, wade bare chested through alpine streams, to the giggles of moist frau's. So like you said off the bike it's a pain; bike carriers, roofracks, stuffing them in the boot, stands, steep walking sections, falls, flopping them on your head in the garage.

[@gerhardwolmarans9041]

Well speced awesome looking bike👍 Thanks for the review Rob 👍

[@alanmcconnell5113]

The weight isn’t an issue for me. 29er 38’s are over 200g heavier than the 36 equivalent but that’s worth it for the performance upgrade on a big bike. Switching out the stock spring for a SLS spring would save nearly 300g and if the weight really bothered someone then switching out the cassette, lighter cranks & a carbon bar would save a bit more. With a smaller 27.5 rear wheel & tire you could probably get it sub 25kg.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi Alan, great points. I wasn’t ever feeling that the weight was an issue riding it - it felt great to me. The balance of the bike felt very good and you’re right that suspension adds to it. Tyres are great, they weigh 2.5 Kg alone! But are well matched to the bike where some brands ship paper thin tyres to keep the weight down that need immediately replacing! But shave more weight off and you start to compromise performance. I like your suggestion of a SLS coil.

[@alanmcconnell5113]

The store I’ve ordered from has told me i should get mine in December. Good to hear your opinion on the mullet set up. I was pretty sure I’d switch out the rear for a 27.5 & run it in the longer chainstay setting so your experience on it has confirmed that for me. I’ll need to change spring anyway as the medium ships with a 400lb spring which won’t be right for me so I’ll get a SLS & I’ll be switching the dropper for a one up 180mm so I can slam it all the way down. It’s kind of annoying that hardly any manufacturers let you spec the dropper length or coil spring rate you need. Propain do with the ekano but I don’t know any others.

[@HeliTom84]

Nice :) can you please test the new Scott ransom eride ?

[@evilempire4939]

Great review like always! But what the difference with a YT Decoy Elite pro race ?

[@garethbaker3429]

Hi Rob, I love all your videos. Based on what I have seen, I am trying to decide between a Kenevo expert or a Sam2. I have a Kenevo for demo this weekend. I currently ride the Decoy Pro and I love it, but the battery and motor are just a bit out of date now. If you had to choose, which of the two bikes would you choose (ignoring the ugly display on the Ssm2) Thanks for all your hard work, I bought my Decoy after watching your video on it and I have had the best time on it, thanks so much for that.

[@xfortysd40]

Great review! Wish this bike was available here in the US, would definitely be a continder!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Maybe one day!

[@IvanKos-g7u]

Dear Rob, Fantastic review. As heard in video the coil is 500 lbs. How much do You weight and which coil would you suggest for 108 kg rider? 600 lbs 230 x 60-65mm? Cheers!

[@nobrakes7247]

You didn't bottom it out Rob!! Thank you need to try a bit harder son. You living my dream brother thanks for another great review

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Next time!

[@matthewjreynolds83]

Where was this filmed Rob? What trails? Great video, and a great looking bike

[@sacha2711]

I'll wait for the 2021 commencal meta power 29, 63.5 HTA in full 29er form & no unprogrammable Bosch break-me bar-top display silliness!

[@fernando_dominguez]

Your channel is awesome, loved this review thank you

[@andirock6504]

best review ever! - I am wondering, which other eBikes are competible within the "Enduro - class"? [and in the price range]

[@alessandroguagnini9292]

Top Bike ! Top tester ! I'm 1.82 mt and I love large sizes... Large or Extralarge ? Thank You

[@philwebb606]

Smashing review

[@Ilivetoride]

Who is better Kenevo or the Focus?

[@camwells9726]

If you had to pick between this and the reign?

[@philhicks5818]

Great review , really nice looking bikeb

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Glad you like it!

[@59trevski]

Rob if you could have any ebike and you can build it how you want with any parts that you have tested this year what would it be right now.2021?

[@oBarclayo]

Rob, if you had to pick between this bike and the Orbea Wild FS M10, for riding natural but rough/technical enduro type trails, which one would you go for?

[@adrianhrusca4067]

Trek Rail

[@phantomrider86]

Rob, great video! QUESTION: Just to be clear, was the mullet configuration using a 27.5" wheel of 27.5" +?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

27.5” with a 2.6 tyre

[@alesbastl7716]

Really good review. I was just wondering if you felt any loss of traction under braking due to the linkage driven single-pivot suspension design? Thank you

[@michaelgoodwin593]

6:00 - Rob you are a serial component changer dont deny it lol

[@RobRidesEMTB]

😂😂 On my own bikes for sure 🤷‍♂️😂

[@kentmoore2132]

Absolutely love this bike. Can they be found in the USA 🇺🇸?

[@salvadorperezseron7833]

Rob spectacular the video as always, Could you tell me what size is the video and how tall are you, for 1.79 what size do you advise? M

[@gavjav1]

Nice bike and a really good review. what range do you get out the battery.

[@SimonHollandfilms]

a bit lardy even with the mullet on a sketchy drop! errrrr. ok..i get that,i think?

[@stephprime]

I just ordered the bike today! can‘t wait to rip this beast. Your fork setup looks perfect, can you remember the setup you got?

[@wolkuz]

Hey Rob, I'm considering buying Focus sam2 6.9, also looking at SantaC Bullit XT coil, its rly worth extra 3k eu for the Bullit? Also, I think Bosch is better motor over all. Im 110kg and 203cm, what other long travel ebikes you would recommend? EP8 rattle sound its rly much worst then Bosch? Thanks

[@jam2junkie339]

Great review,I’ve got the Jam2 so does this warrant me having 2 Ebikes🤣 .?Sam2 looks sweet👌

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yes it does!

[@dfathatgmx]

I had lots of trouble with the new shimano 1x (XT) i wouldn't recommend . I changed to sram eagle (GX) it works brilliant for me (just my experience).

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi Daniel, that’s not good. In my experience the XT 12 speed has been brilliant. I’ve even installed it on a bike I own as I liked it that much.

[@bencooper7944]

Haha, I've had the opposite. GX cassettes are cheese.

[@tamasvarga67]

Daniel F I found the GX Eagle crap (even the grass can bend its cage) and replaced it with XT... night and day.

[@pao-pablete]

Hi!! Its very important your opinion for me, Focus Sam 6.9 2021 ir Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 tm??? Congratulations for this canal, its TOP!!

[@danfarmer_photo]

Great video Rob. Question, with the mullet set up, how did you go with the lower bb? Any pedal strikes?

[@bencooper7944]

What happened to the independent reviews?

[@Toniboy85]

Hi Rob! Nice video once again. How would you compare this to a Kenevo Expert 2020? I must say that you and your videos are a little bit guilty to my new Kenevo that I just bought :D

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Both superb bikes to be honest. Kenevo a bit more DH oriented and a bit slacker but 27" wheels, I prefer 29" personally.

[@ddsgardening7437]

This is truly a bad boy,love to try a mullet 😎👍

[@tomwilkins4554]

Good review! Can I ask did you try the flip chip? Or was the mullet in normal setting just right?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Just kept the flip chip in standard setting so 27.5 in the rear dropped the BB height and slackened the head angle. The other option is to reduce chain stay length to 430mm but keep the rest of the geo the same

[@dherinfinite]

You ever tried the mullet set up on your Levo SL? I'm intreagued to see how it would feel

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Not yet but I plan too! Watch this space 😊

[@dubkav]

Rang my local focus ebike dealer and they can't get any till week 31 2021so back to looking for a bike

[@roddas26]

Another vote for mullet ebikes. Running my 2020 kenevo expert with a 170mm ZEB 29"" fork up front. Bike felt instantly better almost everywhere. Cheers from Aotearoa NZ.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Nice! Yeah the mullet option worked well for me on this bike 👍

[@derekblake9385]

Nice one Rob

[@patrixdan2661]

Nice vid. How does the bike compare to a kenevo? Have you tried the kenevo with 29 front wheel? Thanks!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Not yet!

[@ericm8811]

Hey Rob Rides Emtb! When you said that the Bosch gen 4 motor felt weaker than another bike with similar motor were both chain rings the same tooth count? Ride ride ride!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi Eric, not sure to be honest. Could have just been in the mind also, but it did feel a bit different to the Jam2, I assume the heavier, slacker bike and longer travel had a bit to do with it.

[@Extremegaz25]

@@RobRidesEMTB hi guys, you could be right about the gearing sounds plausible but I went out yesterday on two quite different terrains both plantations and quickly found myself running out of energy but thinking about it the soil was saturated and muddy so it can make things slower.

[@ssse3123]

Bosh displays downside is that I need to unscrew it everytime I need to flip the bike over.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Agree, its annoying!

[@robf9519]

Loving the reviews mate, how would you compare this to the Orbea Wild Fs? Cheers

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Focus more enduro / DH capable Orbea more nimble trail / enduro

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Focus Jam2 a good option also

[@robf9519]

@@RobRidesEMTB awesome thanks, glad you said that as I have just bought the Orbea, its due in a few weeks, and this was the other bike I was tossing up with. Cheers mate

[@jonah13ij]

Nice video Rob, where else were you riding apart from BPW? Hope you enjoyed as you won’t be able to come back for a while as all the best trails are now locked down....☹️

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi Ian, we went to Betws-y-Coed and found some great locations around there. Was pretty epic!

[@jonah13ij]

Rob Rides EMTB Cheers Rob, yeah does look prime ebike stuff,

[@TheBikePilot]

@@jonah13ij Awesome place man...We did drive around a lot to find those locations...Love Wales...!

[@yogiontour]

Sold! Just ordered one

[@MatteoConte-Scorrect]

Hi dude, do you think it's a good idea to buy the 2021 Focus Sam2 6.9 today instead of a Cube hybrid 140 TM? I know they are different but I needa a trail bike with no problem to go down everywhere. Cube is a 2022 model and very trail for a bit of enduro and me 65kg maybe I can use it in enduro stuff as well. Which one? :)

[@chadsugden411]

How would you say this older sam2 compares to the giant reign e?

[@waheedhassan1643]

Nice Vid Rob. what part of wales was it?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi, we rode Bike Park Wales then Betws-y-Coed in North Wales

[@prettyjohnshill76]

Bike park Wales in Merthyr, Gwydir mawr/bach in Llanrwst. They're about a 150 miles apart. Wales isn't as small as some people think it is.

[@TheBikePilot]

@@prettyjohnshill76 I know man hit the nail on the head!! We were going to hit DyFi but only found out it was uplift only when we got there!! Thought there would be an eBike route up. Apparently, that's coming from Dan the Magician..This was probably one of our most mileage/time intensive videos..Love Wales so much...

[@prettyjohnshill76]

@@TheBikePilot Llangollen and Foel Gasnach let you uplift yourself with ebikes in the north East. The only place you can uplift using ebikes in the north West is the offpiste around Betws-y-Coed, as far as I'm aware of. Great vid anyway, really enjoy this channel.

[@TheBikePilot]

prettyjohnshill76 yes mate! We kinda had to find somewhere on the day..! Well, Rob did..He is a google king. Glad your enjoying the channel. We’re trying to bring you the best Electric Mountain Bike content we can..I just sit behind the camera, he does the hard work...!! 🖖

[@gavincooper4673]

ill tell u if i get hold of one

[@dessy2222]

Hi Rob, Was the mullet setup a 2.6 or 2.8 rear? cheers.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi dessy it was a 2.6 (didn’t have a 2.8 to hand)

[@59trevski]

Hi Rob, what about the Jam2 with the fox 38 fork and fox x2 rear shock, also a mullet set up, being a 70kg rider?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Would be a solid bike for sure. I really like the Jam2 also, even out the box that bike rides great!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

It also has the same option on the chain stay if I remember correctly!

[@mtbalandin9594]

I don’t know if I missed it on the video but do you need a different adapter for the rear brakes in mullet setup?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi, no, works exactly the same no need for any adaptor.

[@mtbalandin9594]

Rob Rides EMTB A kenevo vs Sam video maybe? 🤟

[@johndowley3509]

You do need an adapter if you use the flip chip & run the shorter chain stay.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Ahh yes if you shorten the chainstay you will. I ran in regular configuration so didn’t need one. Good spot 👍

[@TURBOGHIA6]

attention to detail ie key holes and external knock blocks are a let down . would look better with a black fox 38 fork with kashima

[@LarryRichelli]

I just bought the Trek Rail 7....a few pounds lighter and a little slacker. Head tube angle is 64.9 so if I mullet it out I am afraid it might be too slack. What do you think?

[@cmuralhas]

Is it my impression or in the first time you present the focus with the 27,5” wheel in the back, where you say you rode it also as a mullet, the axle flip chip is not setup correctly for the smaller wheel size? You rode it like that?

[@cmuralhas]

Oh, you say after a while that you are going to run it like that. Ok. I would prefer a shorter chainstay. Nice review and great looking bike.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I rode it in the standard position that lowers the BB and slackens the head angle by 0.9 degrees. The alternative option is the put it in the high position - this keeps the geometry and BB heigh the same but reduces the chain stay length from 450mm to 430mm.

[@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120]

Rob Rides EMTB Any pedal strikes with the lower BBH?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

No pedal strikes on my rides

[@cmuralhas]

Would love to hear your impressions on using it with the 430mm chainstay. Thanks

[@gavinpartlow]

Is the rear coil shock spring changeable to suit the riders weight?

[@nortondlcl]

Where do I buy in USA ?

[@MrBoman92]

Is it tubeless from factory? Or can you save a couple of 100g more if you make it tubeless?

[@ssse3123]

Any ebike will climb better/faster than analog bikes I suppose. whatever the chassis.

[@mikaelshikael]

Can you run 27.5 2.8 both front and back??

[@alanmcconnell5113]

So today after reading a few of the comments on here I emailed the sales guy at Rutland who I reserved with after he assured me they had pre ordered & were getting their stock by December. Worst fears confirmed! He’s now saying February with no explanation for the change😡

[@aaronwatson1379]

Yup I had the same issues, dedicated ebike shop here and was told early December. Went today to put deposit down and now early Jan. O well I'll just keep pedalling the old school analog bike around till then. Will be worth the wait.

[@kentmoore6874]

Where can you buy one? Any dealers in USA?

[@siteofdaniel]

I will never get used to these prices. I have a Trek Slash so I am aware of the overall pricing in the biking world, but man... You can get a 2020 Yamaha R3 for that money. It's just ridiculous.

[@DM-fj8wv]

Or a Porsche GT3 RS for..... but you can't shred dh as well with either.

[@siteofdaniel]

@@DM-fj8wv nah a new gt3 rs goes for about 215000 gbp no where near 5k.