2021 Merida Reacto 6000 £2800 WORLD EXCLUSIVE FIRST RIDE

[@velo1337]

nice that you can keep the reviews so honest.

[@davidarthur]

I try

[@hernendezsanchez7646]

Great review. Im glad you didn't get tied up in the data and went into practical and user based info. I just bought a 2020 propel, probably having spent too much $$. I'd buy this reacto (electronic shifting) in a heart beat. That frame looks awesome and designed for comfort and speed

[@covali69]

Really appreciate you reviewing the model is "normal mortals" are likely to buy. Excellent review.

[@pooguy7480]

Both of these replies are bots. Just ignore.

[@kennedystuart5685]

Great review...I am new to your channel.....I really enjoy your videos...keep up the great work

[@davidarthur]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@PoetWithPace]

What a gorgeous bike! Sadly my mind is a mush since my bike was stolen the other week and finding out my insurance doesn't cover it. A while bike shed full of bikes at the flats i was staying at and my bike was the only one stolen. Amazing that only recently reaching 10k subs you have now jumped over 12k subs. Amazing!

[@alexandregherardi6003]

That's a very sexy bike. I'm super impressed by the cable integration through the stem while it's equipped with the mechanical version of the ultegra groupset. It makes me think of doing the same on my 2020 supersix evo. I thought that the cable integration was not recommended with mechanical gears

[@jong4691]

David, would you recommend this (or model up for better cost comparison) or the TCR Pro 1 for a person with only one bike doing 3-4 club rides a week and a couple of long races a year. Cheers

[@nicolaeb8891]

I'm interested in this question too

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

How much do you weigh?

[@nicktel5414]

Me too

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

@@nicktel5414 The Reacto is better for everyone but those regularly competing in events that finish at the top of a significant hill. And depending on the course itself even some of those events will be covered faster on the Reacto.

[@Jarek.]

4:08 - One Watt saving at 45 km/h? This sounds like a joke... I will have more gains from hiding my protruding ears 🤣

[@datdudeinred]

Lol 😂

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

And they act as if power meters are accurate enough that you could even be certain you've saved that 1 watt. The margin of error on that could be that they added a few watts of effort necessary.

[@brownshit1]

I don't think they're boasting about the saving rather they're saying the previous model was already well designed.

[@brianmessemer2973]

Actually - unlike the Specialized hype train - their point is that they already made a really great aero bike in the previous model. It's honest and it makes sense - how can they suddenly get way more aero than their previous aero bike? It's not like humanity's knowledge of aerodynamics has doubled in the last 3 years.

[@LucaBonato]

But seriously, who can maintain 45 km/h other that the pro peloton ahah

[@stephenmcgivernstoriesmusi9820]

Great, thorough review. Many thanks.

[@samuelkmaina]

While reviewing Merida bikes, any chance of a review of the new Scultura Endurance 2021. I'd imagine it'd have more takers than the Reacto. Yes, silent hub, awesome.

[@jaythefordman]

I ride a 2018 Scultura, love it, am also wondering what 2021 brings to the marque

[@cyclingsfatsuma9808]

I have a 2019 4000 disc and am very happy with it. It's really comfortable, good compliance, looks good.

[@davidarthur]

The Scultura Endurance is definitely on my list. Hopefully I can swap this Reacto for one if Merida is up for that

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

Quiet hub: Yes.

[@brianmessemer2973]

I've seen vids on your channel before - always leave a like - this time I subbed. Excellent review of an aero bike that is south of $5,000 US. @highfived said it well below - "you chose the right model." Especially amidst the plethora of reviews of the Specialized Tarmac SL7's which are borderline disgustingly expensive. This Merida bike is quite well done at this price point. I agree with you that the frame color is beautiful 👌 and I'm impressed with the specs of the bike especially the cable integration at the lower priced model. The one weak point for me with this bike is - yeah - a lack of deep profile carbon wheels. But that would of course add to the cost of the bike. If I already had a hot pair of carbon disc brake wheels from another bike ready to swap onto the Merida, it's a pretty sweet deal.

[@davidarthur]

Thanks Brian. I've been lucky to manage to arrange a review of a reasonably affordable model and I'm glad you appreciate it. I think you could budget in some nice wheels on this model with the money saved compared to rivals from other brands

[@waynedoherty7758]

If you are considering buying deep wheels to match this bike the Reacto 8000e adds Di2, carbon tier upgrade, aero cockpit, and deep Reynolds wheels. The weight drops to 7.8kg, and those wheels aren't super light either. It ends up costing and weighing about the same as the Emonda sl7, but looks more aero if a little scary in crosswinds perhaps. I did notice on the Merida Australia website they have a weird disclaimer about their bikes not being guaranteed for the stresses of racing. That seemed pretty disturbing re warranty.

[@Dominique1991]

Kudos to this very everyman’s review!

[@davidarthur]

thanks!

[@crypto_que]

Thanks for keeping the industry honest when it comes to aero gains. It's mathematically impossible to use CFD and any automated process & not have arrived at the most aerodynamic shapes, how can you say you're designing with cutting edge equipment yet miss what is achievable year after year, but still drop new models?

[@malcolmlightbown9273]

Great first review, it's exactly the spec I'd hope you'd review, £800 cheaper than the TCR advance pro 1. I wonder how much lighter it would be with those zipp303s .

[@mickfaragher7897]

Internal cabling is a nightmare to deal with. Giant have got it right.

[@jaspa99]

Yes, 1 watt saved is a joke lol... rather sacrifice asthetics over a pita maintenance. Or get etap or di2 which looks good too (imo almost no tradeoff in terms of asthetics vs internal routing)

[@waynedoherty7758]

How often do you maintain your cables though really? Every 10,000KM? I'm debating wether I should pick the bike I think looks better, and will be faster every time I ride it for hours every week, or the one that makes it faster to refresh my cables every year or two

[@darrylneiltanyag2487]

4:48 they removed the integrated rear light? I liked that feature....

maybe it's something you can clip on (optional)

[@davidarthur]

Yes you can still option it. It's currently got the small multitool case fitted

[@musicIVI]

that freaking fly...

[@lethargic_cow]

😂😂

[@tadaka.8]

Thanks for doing a review on a bike that’s not top of the line. They’re nice, but most of us can’t afford those versions and the lower specd models are what we can actually get

[@davidarthur]

Thanks glad you like it

[@salvatorecantarella6053]

I ordered my Merida reacto6000 delivery in April.

[@jev2867]

Damn. I'm a exclusive steel and titanium rider but this exact trim I am seriously considering.

[@garypotter1349]

Quiet freehubs are to die for.... So good. 😃

[@iainhuddart8496]

Oh yes, silence from your rear end is bliss 😆

[@chrispeters2022]

Definitely a bike worth looking at

[@graemesadd6971]

Loving the silent freehub, almost the perfect bike!

[@adamhill2161]

Great review new to cycling i just picked up my new 2021 reacto 7000e yesterday absolutely great value for money

[@davidarthur]

Nice one!

[@lethargic_cow]

How is it solar?

[@BurgerTime7441]

@10:14 to me those cable bends look too tight/sharp. IMO that will be problematic. I wish they'd include holes for routing the cables into the downtube and fork for those of us who prefer it that way. Merida said the internal cables save 2 watts. 2 watts. It's not worth kinking the cables and all the extended maintenenace duration for a measly 2 watts. A worm can make 2 watts.

[@deecee9251]

I upgraded last year from a TCR to the Reacto disc 8000-e.... The comfort alone was worth every penny.

[@lethargic_cow]

Wow surprising considering TCR. The 8000 uses carbon fiber 5 unlike the 3 on this one thanks 4 sgaring

[@waynedoherty7758]

Another great review! But now I'm terribly confused between a Reacto, TCR, or an Emonda. The TCR is clearly lighter, but is it aero enough to keep up? And is the Emonda too heavy now in the lower tiers to fend off an aero bike that is loosing weight such as the Reacto? Amazing to be lucky enough to enjoy such first world problems :-) I mainly ride in the local mountains trying to beat my own PBs, or doing Gran Fondos. Tarmac SL7 would be killer, but I've ruled it out due to cost.

[@jamlano1]

I am in the same dilemma. What did you end up buying ?

[@waynedoherty7758]

@@jamlano1 TCR sold out till 2022 model launch, Reacto sold out before it landed in shops. Aethos not even released in Australia in di2 variant. I was able to get an Emonda in the end so there wasn't a whole lotta choice unless you can wait till after June for the new models to drop

[@jamlano1]

@@waynedoherty7758 I was lucky to find a Reacto 6000 at Cheeky bikes in Warner's Bay NSW. Just bought it this afternoon.

[@waynedoherty7758]

@@jamlano1 nice!

[@waynedoherty7758]

@@jamlano1 I was in 99 bikes and they had quite a Merida and BMC now. Cycles Galleria also had lots of Trek stock pilled high in boxes. Maybe the drought is ending :-)

[@bigbroondug]

Excellent stuff as usual. I'd love to see you compare it to it's peers, Propel etc. Even if it's an on paper comparison.

[@davidarthur]

Thanks and that’s definitely something I want to do

[@john_ebenezer9185]

David could you do a review on the willier cento 10 sl rim version

[@davidarthur]

Watch this space...

[@Highstakeshobbies]

Nice vid thank you! Is it really a press fit bb? Was hoping it wasnt

[@davidarthur]

It is. BB86 which is the same as Giant. This standard is probably the least problematic of all the press fits

[@ryanjayvalledor1503]

Hi david, may I know your height, I feel based on the website specs of this bike, I should be getting medium. I'm 181 cm tall

[@dazza9360]

Dave, Surely they would have added the rubber insert into the seat post for the aero benefits.

[@dombower]

Had the 2019 version of this bike. Sold it. Sad day as I knew I would never own a bike as good as that again....without spending 3grand+

[@turbosalsa]

Great review, i like the colour it really pops. it looks fast too.

[@davidarthur]

It really is!

[@VerticalLiving]

Is there a release date for this? Would buy this in a heartbeat

[@treyquattro]

38-42kph is good going! Nice bike

[@thomHD]

Reacto 400 deserves a mention; essentially just the aluminium frame version of the 4000. Full Shimano 105, carbon fork, 9.3kg, and considerably cheaper even than the 4000.

[@RichL123]

That’s a pretty bike! I just got the 2021 Pinarello Prince in matte blue 🥶

[@robertnoltefavorite]

David, do you notice a difference in shifting performance due to the narrow bends in the cables? For example in compare to the mentioned TCR where the cables are external. Thx!

[@davidarthur]

Yes. I'm going to elaborate on this in a future video

[@jameshassan8514]

Very informative David but as I always have problems with sizing could you give me your opinion on what size would suit, I'm 5ft 10ins, thanks James.

[@davidarthur]

Thanks James. I’m 5’11” and finding this medium a good fit. The 100mm stem is perhaps a tiny bit short but it’s manageable

[@jameshassan8514]

@@davidarthur thanks David, my current frame is a medium and I have a size 12 stem, will take more advice from local Merda dealer as I'm planning on buying the Reacto, thanks again!

[@cyclingsfatsuma9808]

I'm 191cm/6'3" and I ride a Scultura XL size. They are quite a big fit compared to competitors, I believe, as they don't do a XXL. It's the equivalent of a 60cm while other brands seem to position their XLs around 58cm

[@jameshassan8514]

@@cyclingsfatsuma9808 cheers mate, I reckon a medium should suit me.

[@steveindorset]

Love that colour! Nice looking bike too.

[@NecalliGaming.]

Great review, thank you! Just wanted to check - did you say these tyres are tubeless?

[@davidarthur]

They are not but the rims are tubeless ready

[@NecalliGaming.]

David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes thank you very much :)

[@PavelMisar]

Hi, perfect review. I am interested in Reacto 7000E but don’t know which color. I can imagine black one, but white one I can’t imagine, they have written its titan color but don’t know how it’s looking. Don’t you have some photos of this? Thank you

[@paulcotter7705]

Thanks for answering my previous question, this one is perhaps a bit more random! I really like the look and logic behind this semi-integrated cabling solution but I'm wondering whether it would be possible to get enough leverage to use a conventional travel bag with the handlebar stored vertically? I'm guessing not - or not without detaching cables and brake hoses anyway - although you might be able to find a creative solution at a push?

[@LanceJapan]

I bought a 4000 2021 in Japan yesterday and it is in the McClaren team colors (105 with FSA Gosamer Cranks). Its very nice and not twitchy like my Canyon Ultimate. I will have to ride a little more to comment on the ride comfort but it seems just about right with the feedback so far. Was looking forward to see the Canyon Aeroad but when I saw its half baked cable routing for the affordable models I lost interest. In a very short time I decided to sell the Ultimate.

[@lethargic_cow]

How has it been?

[@LanceJapan]

@@lethargic_cow Great. I changed the cranks to Shimano 105 latest 12 s version which are a better than FSA for the fd shifting. Had it for a few years now and no plan to change .

[@rp6760]

Great value bike👌

[@robertnoltefavorite]

Nice bike for the Netherlands 👍 @davidarthur: Some parts of the video are edited upside down...

[@davidarthur]

Damn, thanks for pointing that out Robert. Did you flip your phone upside down :) - I was making some last-minute edit changes and accidentally flipped those GoPro clips but didn't realise until you spotted it, so thanks for sharing

[@RideCJH]

Hi David, really liked your review of the Reacto 6000, I'm keen to get one of these bikes, can you recommend anywhere in the Manchester area?

[@davidarthur]

Thanks. Check out the dealer page here www.merida-bikes.com/en-gb/frontend/dealer-search/index?dealer-search%5Blocation%5D=Manchester&dealer-search%5Bradius%5D=50

[@paulcotter7705]

Really interesting review as always. I'm struggling to find any stats regarding those Fulcrum 800 wheels... Don't suppose you have a weight figure to hand? It would be nice to know by how much you could lighten this bike with carbon rims... Thanks!

[@davidarthur]

I'm led to believe the wheels come in at 1960g so you could easily save 500g or more if you wanted. I say easily, just a question of how much you want to spend :) But yes a wheel upgrade as mentioned would be a great upgrade

[@AKSKMY]

Hmm what about indexing? How would it be done then? Since its integrated cables.

[@jochentress4357]

Which aero bike has the best comfort? Merida Reacto? Giant Propel? Canyon Aeroad?

[@juhan42]

In your opinion which one is better TCR or Reacto ?

[@albertohrnandez5608]

You should definitely try the new Tarmac SL7 with mechanical Ultegra and 38mm deep carbon wheel and review it. I think it could super interesting

[@danielotero4484]

Great review. And why is the merida brand not allowed in the United States?

[@cyclingsfatsuma9808]

Probably a marketing agreement with Specialized, which they own about half of

[@SamSung-ej3qr]

how does the merida sizing compare to other bikes? iv been told to buy a 54 where as my supersix is a 56

[@FinubJames]

Could you please make a review of this bike? There aren't many for this bike out there.

[@davidarthur]

I’ve just posted my review a couple of days ago, check my channel homepage!

[@FinubJames]

@@davidarthur perfect! Glad I asked. Strangely, it did not show up in my search.

[@davidarthur]

Cool glad you found it in the end. My channel is still new so not always at the top of searches. Yet!

[@PeakTorque]

Nice bike actually and crucially the price isn’t completely piss taking. The chainstays do look a bit tight tho for 30mm claimed.

[@davidarthur]

I will be sure to check that out for the review

On the Grandfondo review, they said: "We were able to mount 700 x 32C Continental Grand Prix 5000 TL tires on the METRON 55 wheels and ride without any concerns about clearance and rubbing on the frame. "

[@hjazhan]

What do you mean the gear shifts are not as smooth? Does it skip when shifting? Does it require stronger interaction with the levers to shift?

[@davidarthur]

Yes, the levers required a stronger push. I think that's a compromise of the internal cable routing

[@surekhahulugalle9304]

Is there a huge difference between the 5000 and 6000 ? I know the 5000 has ultegra and 6000 has 105.

[@michalstefanko843]

hello, I want to ask how much you measure and the length of the inner leg, the size of the bike in the video is S

[@kerguule]

Is this the new canyon aeroad 😬

[@Alex-gt2yh]

kerguule looks almost the same as the leaked aeroad

[@brianmessemer2973]

By that do you mean, "Is this the new awesome aero bike on a budget?" ? I think that's what you meant. It is a very nice looking bike.

[@radwanmostafa1823]

@@brianmessemer2973 Since you guys are mentioning Canyon. Which would you pick over the other?

[@amarbirsingh6669]

Hello david great review , am looking to upgrade my bike. I want more comfortable bike with good speed just can't make my mind should i go for merida scultura endurance 6000 or reacto 6000. (2021 models).

[@davidarthur]

You mention comfort so the Scultura Endurance would be the natural choice

[@amarbirsingh6669]

@@davidarthur thanks

[@Stevenafoe]

You ticked 38/42 km/h ‘easily’ with this bike, but what was your ‘normal’ speed on that same segment?

[@softbingan]

This is the second time I see a fly running around the stem in this channel.

[@bingobango6412]

Guess you could say they have the flyest bike footage

[@marksmith566]

I will never get my head around a 9K bike, you literally can buy a brand new car for that, don’t tell me there’s more engineering, manpower or materials go in to a bike than a car!

[@BikeLife154]

Mark Smith totally agree! And I’m someone who loves bikes more than cars!

[@samuelkmaina]

I doubt it too, considering the number of components that go into a vehicle, compared with those that go into a bike, it is unbelievable that a Di2 Groupset is more expensive than a top smartphone. It's a skewed supply chain not even built on demand or cost of R&D. Hope China comes up with alternatives to rival the best and bring prices to sensible levels.

[@dovgoldberg]

I agree that bikes at 9K and up seem extremely overpriced. Perhaps when a carmaker invests so much time into a car it is selling many more models of that car. So for a superbike where superior engineering is required will most likely sell fewer models so the increased price is worthy of the work that went into it.

[@BikeLife154]

Dov Goldberg what superior engineering? They can’t even get the tolerances right on press fit BBs! That’s why they’re all going back to threaded BBs. Stop trying to justify their ridiculously high prices. These bike manufacturers sell many bikes overall! Take for example, Specialized, they will sell many of the lower end models of the SL7 so your comparison to car companies selling many cars doesn’t hold water! I could buy 2 Giant bikes for the same price as the SL7. In fact, I would rather do that. If I bought a Propel and a TCR I would have 2 bikes that are made for specific purposes rather than a pretender!

[@gourami7]

Its just profiteering from bike companies. Plenty of doctors, dentists etc around to buy top end models. Not long ago Ultegra spec bikes were 2-2.5k.

[@ViswanathanMahalingam]

How is the shifting? on mechanical groupset considering the cable routing!

[@davidarthur]

It is slightly heavier shifting but you get used to it and it still works okay

[@ViswanathanMahalingam]

@@davidarthur It's not an issue if the shifting is heavier but the real issue is long term reliability of the shifter cable in mechanical groupsets with sharp routing ... I have had my shifter cable of Sora changed multiple times within a year because the shifting felt hard as a result of deterioration of lubricant layer on the shifter cable! ☹️ Hope so its not the case with Merida!

[@chrisfoster5098]

Great waffling again Dave 😉

[@davidarthur]

Ha ha thanks Chris

[@Dominique1991]

How do you compare this with the new Specialized Tarmac SL7? Thanks!

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

I'm curious to know the weight of the saddle, wheels, tires, handlebar, stem and seat post. That bike seems a little fat considering the frame weight claim of 1010 grams. The wheels are not going to be used for serious rides, so that's one problem solved. If most of that extra weight is tucked in to a higher than claimed frame weight, that's a problem. I think that the stem is probably very heavy considering the earlier models that I've seen for "open standard" cable integration. Even the G3 Venge stem is a boat anchor. Upgrading the bar, stem and wheels should be able to clip a good half kilo off of that monster. And that would make for a very good performer for the price.

[@13overton]

Nice review, looks the business! Why are so many manufacturers persisting with press fit BB's? Have genuine improvements been made in this area?

[@hippoace]

you mean when can bike companies make proper bb shell tolerances instead of relying on bonding of the threaded shell to compensate for misalignments?

[@davidarthur]

There's nothing wrong with press-fit if it's manufactured well, and that's my experience with the likes of Merida and Giant. Merida is using the PF86 which has a good track record

[@13overton]

@@davidarthur Good to know. I must admit I am a little jaded after putting up with a BB90 on my Trek for the last few years!

[@rayF4rio]

Subbed. Keep up the good work.

[@stijndeklerk]

I like where Merida is going with this bike, some sensible off the shelve part. One would be hard pressed to get it under 8kg though, bar changing out the groupset. Can't say I like the colour scheme though.

[@hernendezsanchez7646]

Each to their own, but i think you'd be the only one not happy with that colour combo

[@gourami7]

Looks good but who is really going to pay 9k for Merida Team Edition ? This looks good but market is crowded at that price point, Propel, Aerorad, SystemSix etc

[@jonathanallen6753]

Promising review! Could you compare this with Emonda & Giant in the same price range? It would be appreciated....You make some excellent comments overall and thorough👌🔝👌🔝👌

[@marcinwojtalewicz5717]

Witam. Mam 185 cm wzrostu,noga 91. Jaki rozmiar byłby najlepszy? Dzięki.

[@maroskotora8422]

Hi can you compare with tarmac sl7 pls?

[@shshankshivalle6168]

How does it compare to madone sl6?

[@ianpaine]

any idea why they have used a FSA stem with plastic cover on the under side? Clearly mid/lower end models not going to have the expensive vision metro bars but why not FSA's shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/type/stems/stems/road-gravel/ns-acr-stem which is modest €99 and would (as far as I can work out) completely conceal cables without plastic cover? Wondering if could be fitted later

[@sharpcsc998]

A very affordable bike. Would look good with those Zipp 303S?

[@davidarthur]

Yes, definitely!

I hate to be that guy, but how much does it weight (I know you mention fork and frame)?

[@davidarthur]

Pretty sure I mentioned the weight in the video?

@@davidarthur , sorry for asking. I'll watch it again

[@laudel7]

I literally just got the 2020 model. What are the differences with this one?

[@davidarthur]

The cable integration is the biggest difference, there are subtle aero differences, the new fork, down tube and dropped rear stays, plus the increased tyre clearance.

[@raresmircea]

Rear hub noise is the perfect warning sound for pedestrians, cats and dogs. Whenever i see people in front of me i stop pedaling and as i approach they hear me. With a silent bike i’d have to constantly say something, especially in the park.

[@liamwarner-lee8930]

get a bell

[@Nicky458itl]

that fin is really for prevented hot caliper directly touch carbonframe by my eye.

[@nickhutchinson9068]

What size would you recommend for 180cm in height?

[@chrisgilligan4968]

So the frame and fork on the 9K bike have a combined weight of 1422 g and the frame and fork of the sub 3K bike have a combined weight of 1500 g. I get that DuraAce Di2 will be better and weigh less than the ultegra mechanical - but 6K (pounds...which is a whole lot more in Canadian Dollars) is paying an awful lot for these marginal gains. Buy the 3K bike, upgrade the wheels and you'll have virtually the same performance and at least 4K in your pocket.

[@surfpunk182]

Hold on a sec. I own the previous version (love that bike to death) and it has no integrated cables. When it launched back then, Merida said something like: "That's no big deal, we calculated in the windtunnel that integrated cables only save you like a watt or so. We rather don't want maintenance to be as annoying." So the new Version saves you a whole watt WITH cable management. Excuse me? Where did all the little "Aero improvements" on this frame go? :-D

[@davidarthur]

I have a feeling the move to integrated cable routing is a reflection of increased demand from consumers, many of whom it appears are expecting this sort of internal cable routing on 2021 model year bikes. It claims the aero handlebar and internal cables saves 2 watts on its own

[@LucaBonato]

Last year reacto 6000 with Bahrein old color scheme came with fulcrum 4 and at 2500€ at my local shop 🤨

[@tareksweeting22]

Anyone know what the extra £400 buys you from 5000 to 6000? My dad has a set of mavic carbon disc wheels which I could use so could shed some weight. And I much prefer the bahrain-mclaren paint on the 5000. So hard to get hold of at the moment though

[@benhardwick1970]

Great video! New to the channel and trying to get into biking. Looks like a potential decent investment

[@davidarthur]

Welcome aboard!

[@cyclingsfatsuma9808]

Consider the Merida Scultura instead Ben. Cheaper, perhaps more comfortable. Unless you are looking for a real racing machine or that amazing paint job.

[@gsmd770]

It just looks like a Specialized?

[@brianmessemer2973]

You must mean the Venge, but I think it looks absolutely nothing like any Specialized bike 😂

well, Merida does own 49% of Specialized...

[@gsmd770]

@ Thanks I didn't know. At the end of the day it's all made in Taiwan and they charge crazy money for it!

[@cyclingsfatsuma9808]

@@gsmd770 designed in Germany though, so that's got to be better right?

[@MehediHasanSizan]

Use 28mm and 30mm tires then compare both please.

[@EYEupP]

I want it in this blue, but not this orange... DAMN! Why didn't they just add a different shade of blur instead of this, it would look awesome. Or the whole bike matt and the branding in glossy. Would be nice indeed.

[@stevegraham3041]

Frame has the same design as my 2010 Merida warp alloy TT bike

[@FranciscoRZayas]

I can’t get the bike in USA

[@davidyoung-nb2pu]

Loud freehub is a must. It's better than a bell. Lol. So for me the big question is how does it compare to the same spec tarmac you had last week

[@RevelCris]

8.5kg?!?! The canyon is 7.6k for $5k usd

[@glennoc8585]

Somedays I prefer my quiet freehub other days I prefer my old set of wheels as noisey as a football rattle.

[@monty2078]

Arn't we all getting fed up with manufacturers using the excuse that they have to meet UCI rules. What they're telling us is that they could make something better if they weren't constrained. What a joke. Good review by the way David.

[@davidarthur]

Thing is they are designing race bikes for the pros they sponsor so they need to adhere to UCI rules. Interestingly I asked Specialized's Chris Yu if they had looked into designing a bike without the UCI rules and he reckoned the difference wouldn't be as massive as you might imagine.

[@arhu74]

no deep section aero wheels, no power meter?

[@davidarthur]

Not for £2800 no

[@arhu74]

@@davidarthur the tcr does offer carbon deep section wheels for that price though and the canyon aeroad for slightly more

[@davidarthur]

@@arhu74 True, but that TCR ADVANCED PRO 2 DISC has a Shimano 105 groupset so guess it comes down to what you value most in your new road bike

[@arhu74]

@@davidarthur TCR ADVANCED 1+ DISC PRO COMPACT is e2899 here with ultegra and carbon deep section wheels. I live in the Netherlands, so a country as flat as a pancake and I can easily maintain speeds above 35 km/h which I think pushes me to an aero bike Hope you'll be able to to a review of the giant propel soon too

[@arhu74]

@@davidarthur how does this bike compare to the tcr btw?