2021 Toyota Supra vs 1994 Toyota Supra // JDM Legends Face Off

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Throttle House

3 жыл бұрын

This is the new 2021 Toyota Supra, and it costs $67,690 CAD. Strangely, so does the old MKIV from 1994. Both share a name, but do both deserve the same reputation? Considering that there are 27 years between these two, can the old one stack up, and can the new one continue the legacy? James and Thomas jump behind the wheel of both to experience them and discuss them inside and out. Watch and enjoy!
Huge thank you to Ceramic Pro Vaughan, who allowed us to look way more 'street' than we deserve by facilitating us on their location. / ceramicpro_vaughan
And a massive thank you to Joe for letting us feature his MKIV!
And thank you to Vik and Miguel for coming out and being mad lads.
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@TrevForPresident
@TrevForPresident 3 жыл бұрын
Pros: the old one won’t depreciate. Cons: you can’t find the old one.
@ttfcars
@ttfcars 3 жыл бұрын
I know a guy 😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/haGXe4qcZ5qoq9U
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? There’s a bunch of them on auto trader all the time, even right now.
@Kzuke
@Kzuke 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacesOwnWorld There were only about 4,000 twin-turbo 6-speed LHDs sold in the U.S., which are the really valuable ones. The rest are naturally aspirated models or JDM RHD imports.
@allenrodriguez4255
@allenrodriguez4255 3 жыл бұрын
Their ia tons of old.supras their just expensive most costing. More than the new one
@CPAJayhawk
@CPAJayhawk 3 жыл бұрын
They could certainly lose value, so same difference as depreciation
@chrisondrovic3106
@chrisondrovic3106 3 жыл бұрын
'...Showed us his keys and said "I own it."' If that's not the truest statement I've ever heard.
@peemot007
@peemot007 3 жыл бұрын
The perfect closer to video 😎
@julianpeteryun
@julianpeteryun 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that was awesome. I felt the “feels.”
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744 3 жыл бұрын
True
@Nonameman0001
@Nonameman0001 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianpeteryun Omg me too. I felt so warm inside when I heard that statement finish. The mk4 truly is a car worthy of being that "dream car".
@ishoui_6519
@ishoui_6519 3 жыл бұрын
By the way supra 2020 it's the same 2021 Don't believe the company only advertised
@user-mx1fq6qm6i
@user-mx1fq6qm6i 3 жыл бұрын
The mk5 is such a Toyota move and I love it. People say that they wanted to see an entirely bespoke Supra, but they won't really buy a supra for 130000$
@mrsoisauce9017
@mrsoisauce9017 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly tho, I feel like it could have been just a little bit more Toyota. I get the money argument. I’m not arguing against it. But still, they could have at least developed their own engine. Or they could have made the interior cheaper and given the damn thing a manual so they could lower the starting price. They could have done a lot of things they didn’t do. Besides, the cost of development argument isn’t as good when we scale it against what was arguably the car of 2020. The Corvette C8 went mid engine, and it turned up a profit. The damn thing had 2 get a new platform, completely reworked engineering, and different materials, and after all of that, it STILL managed 2 maintain its absolute bargain of a price. Toyota is a much bigger company than GM is. What’s 2 say they couldn’t make a Supra completely in-house and still make a profit at a fair price point? Because rite now, Nissan has absolutely embarrassed Toyota with the Z. And I no, it’s unfair 2 compare the 2, given that the Z had a platform that was perfectly useable. But the point of the car was 2 hit Toyota where it hurt, and that they did. The Supra was inspired by Supras of old, but the Z was more inspired by old Zs than the Supra was inspired by old Supras. And it’s a shame 2, since Toyota knows how 2 make a good driver’s car. Just look at the GR Yaris. It took a boring and run of the mill car and turned it into a little pocket rocket that feels more like an Integra than the new Integra will probably feel like, because that’s what it is. It’s Toyota’s Integra, and it’s incredible 4 it. I feel like the Supra, while well intentioned, missed the mark because it didn’t FEEL like a Supra. It’s still a good car, don’t get me wrong. But it doesn’t feel like a Supra. Perhaps a next generation, modernized 2JZ would have fixed things up a little. Perhaps it needed a little bit more. Who knows
@scoot5642
@scoot5642 Жыл бұрын
@@mrsoisauce9017 eh. no one really buys sport cars from toyota tho. sure there’s always someone but for the most part, very little. lexus rcf, terrible sale. lexus lc, an amazing car, very low sale. even the legendary lfa had a hard time selling at first. all of those are are priced similarly to the original supra as well…with a lexus badge. makes you wonder how much nissan get we would see if they priced it around 40-60k
@JasRoss
@JasRoss Жыл бұрын
To be fair, a mid-90s MKIV Supra would be nearly $100k in inflation adjusted dollars to 2022. They were fairly expensive for their time.
@oskartross8459
@oskartross8459 11 ай бұрын
1994 supra had only few competitors back in time and it was Toyota. Today there is heaps competitors for new Supra and much better price and faster too
@franchu6973
@franchu6973 9 ай бұрын
@@KaxziJJ If u wont gonna argue and just say no sense stuff why u do u even take ur time to comment?
@tycphotography
@tycphotography 3 жыл бұрын
The closing statement hits the soul for MKIV owners. You'd have to own one to know how true this statement was.
@Siyadlams
@Siyadlams 3 жыл бұрын
“Shows the key and says, ‘I own it’”. That right there is priceless 👌
@radiotrin37
@radiotrin37 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite line of the entire video!
@HaylonHarroo87
@HaylonHarroo87 3 жыл бұрын
@@radiotrin37 for real
@alwaysbroke6533
@alwaysbroke6533 3 жыл бұрын
@@sly9263 Supra isn't my dream car, but I get it. I honestly don't like the look of 911s. People are allowed to have smaller dreams
@adrianunisa
@adrianunisa 2 жыл бұрын
Truly. 🫡
@matsum2332
@matsum2332 Жыл бұрын
what a nice line indeed
@nourishaaya2497
@nourishaaya2497 3 жыл бұрын
If Jdm legends doesn’t become a real game I’m suing
@MidhunCM
@MidhunCM 3 жыл бұрын
suing who?
@carloscampos-kl2kl
@carloscampos-kl2kl 3 жыл бұрын
@@MidhunCM it's a joke lol
@CrusardModding
@CrusardModding 3 жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo 1 is basically JDM Legends
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 3 жыл бұрын
JDM legends is an oxymoron
@MidhunCM
@MidhunCM 3 жыл бұрын
@@carloscampos-kl2kl yeah I know, so was I
@itsamemario8345
@itsamemario8345 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 90s I have a soft spot for that era of cars, something more visceral to them. I've only ever owned American performance cars...Mustangs, Camaros and Corvettes. I am awaiting delivery of the Supra this week. I wanted to get out of my comfort zone and try something different and I loved the car in the little time I had with it. Great video guys.
@tylerratcliff
@tylerratcliff 4 ай бұрын
The outro of the video summed up the main difference perfectly and is exactly what makes a car special or timeless.
@Boosted94Supra
@Boosted94Supra 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm the original NA owner of that 94 Supra. I brought it into Canada from Japan in 2010 and still have a good amount of the original paperwork and parts. So happy to see it again, reach out if you'd like!
@NewHaven203
@NewHaven203 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you stay at? Toronto? I hope to see it one day if you’re around Toronto
@StarkVandalez
@StarkVandalez 3 жыл бұрын
saw it for sale now. Wish I had $50k to buy it. Its a beauty!
@faisal0471
@faisal0471 3 жыл бұрын
It is now up for sale for 62K in Barrie!
@davis7323
@davis7323 3 жыл бұрын
Shame that due to Japan's regulations, the version from Japan had smaller turbos and it pushed out only 270ish HP, the USDM one makes 320hp. Eitherway, easy fix =) Original supra has the best sound and was designed way ahead of its time. 1994 and looks BEAUTIFUL still.
@Sak-zo1ui
@Sak-zo1ui 3 жыл бұрын
@@davis7323 it was pretty much built for the 90s. I dont know everything about them but what I have heard is they are pretty much a 90s car. Similar to some of the porche cars from the 50s when they used brand new fiber glass. They were not really ahead of their time but they were writing their own story.
@autonewstv86
@autonewstv86 3 жыл бұрын
Congrat to the owner of the original Supra - great closing statement! 👍
@alom1807
@alom1807 3 жыл бұрын
Very honest and true
@MikeVista15
@MikeVista15 3 жыл бұрын
it resonated in my head so much... im off to window shop
@bogotstogoskiing
@bogotstogoskiing 3 жыл бұрын
That's how I feel about my Land Cruiser. Even if I was Zuckerberg rich my 1989 FJ62 would be the one I'm always looking at.
@nolawhipsswhipss7416
@nolawhipsswhipss7416 3 жыл бұрын
Loved that closing statement.
@victormadera8965
@victormadera8965 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not the original
@bentleymccray1599
@bentleymccray1599 2 жыл бұрын
I have been following you guys for awhile with your shows growing on me more lately. You've two have become one of my favorite reviewers. Now that I just saw you have a beagle, you're right there near the top. Keep up the good work guys!
@hussel-m3780
@hussel-m3780 3 жыл бұрын
The outro ending line... perfect delivery and closing summary 👌🏼
@shohelahmed8471
@shohelahmed8471 3 жыл бұрын
That last word from 1994 guy "what is your dream car ? Shows the key i own it" After hearing it I got goosebumps I tip my hat to him😊
@hadesx7354
@hadesx7354 3 жыл бұрын
Once you own a Supra you kind of just fall deeply in love. 😭❤️It's pretty crazy.
@M-L-kk8vf
@M-L-kk8vf 3 жыл бұрын
Ok redditor
@jannu422
@jannu422 3 жыл бұрын
You've both finished comparing the old and new GTRs and Supras now, NSX next?
@caglioso
@caglioso 3 жыл бұрын
NSX would be dope
@paddywiggle
@paddywiggle 3 жыл бұрын
I think the GTRs and Supras have more in common than the old and new NSX
@cameronfell4415
@cameronfell4415 3 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! I'm down to see that Any day!
@DroopyLoops
@DroopyLoops 3 жыл бұрын
Ohh for Nissan, Toyota, and Honda. They should have a review showing which company has evolved better!
@noxsura4658
@noxsura4658 3 жыл бұрын
We need to compare RX7's... oh wait :(
@bradstoybox8811
@bradstoybox8811 Жыл бұрын
Great review guys! I love your approach to reviewing cars and the genuine sense that your commentary isn't heavily scripted. It's also nice to see our lovely Ontario country roads as the backdrop. For me, the Mark IV will always represent what a Supra should be. If you take the badges off the new one it could be the product of almost any modern manufacturer...zero identity! Sad actually..:(
@CharlesBurnsPrime
@CharlesBurnsPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Most attempts at KZbin humor do not work well, but you guys are genuinely funny.
@shanjiivnambiar2921
@shanjiivnambiar2921 3 жыл бұрын
What the supra onwer said is enough to make a grown man cry
@scuckplexity
@scuckplexity 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't cry. So I'm a boy
@phajejekly8922
@phajejekly8922 2 жыл бұрын
😭 😭 😭
@sidefx996
@sidefx996 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas' horn impression at 18:03 is impressively spot on
@calum9250
@calum9250 3 жыл бұрын
the intro made me smile so much - nicely done lads your content is fantastic!
@mr.hernandezdrives
@mr.hernandezdrives 2 жыл бұрын
The ending sentence was super deep guys.. love this episode, I would go for the old Supra, that is what the name Supra epitomizes
@darcos7535
@darcos7535 2 жыл бұрын
Had me in tears over a car! How lame is that.
@Surfnboy
@Surfnboy 3 жыл бұрын
Always so creative with those intros LOL
@Errhhk
@Errhhk 3 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@saud..-
@saud..- 3 жыл бұрын
Erhhk why are u mad???
@MJT-DA
@MJT-DA 3 жыл бұрын
Whys everyone hating on this guy?
@smiles1151
@smiles1151 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@GodKing804
@GodKing804 3 жыл бұрын
Its gonna run out eventually, but hopefully not
@BLESSED-ODM
@BLESSED-ODM 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who rush in anticipation of them drag racing these cars🤔
@2tp223
@2tp223 3 жыл бұрын
No you arent 😔
@mitch9421
@mitch9421 3 жыл бұрын
The new one would walk the old one, no contest lol
@CSOCSO
@CSOCSO 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitch9421 yep. new one would beat the old one in every way. drag or track.
@B3ARDOWNPROD
@B3ARDOWNPROD 3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@tomraymond9795
@tomraymond9795 3 жыл бұрын
it's obvious how that would go. Would be more interested in a tuned mkIV vs new model track test
@ibizaflu
@ibizaflu 28 күн бұрын
Love the summary, nice job!
@cmsgt4
@cmsgt4 2 жыл бұрын
The last few minutes hit home. Sure I can buy a new car but there is something about my old 90d Toyota that brings joy and experiences I don’t feel like I get out of many modern cars.
@JStryker7
@JStryker7 3 жыл бұрын
The old one is expensive because you can drive it with the windows open
@Retalak
@Retalak 3 жыл бұрын
Saw another video where they fixed it with an additional piece in front of the window to direct the air.
@TheDailyDriver
@TheDailyDriver 3 жыл бұрын
easily fixed... they have kits that will take care of it for cheap
@JStryker7
@JStryker7 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDailyDriver I know that but it's no excuse for the manufacturer to not fix a massive flaw
@WildKarrade
@WildKarrade 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I have yet to drive a sports car under 100k that doesn't have the buffeting issue. No idea why everyone complains about it all the time, it's kinda the territory of a sports car. I'm not driving a luxury Audi or Mercedes.
@JStryker7
@JStryker7 3 жыл бұрын
@@WildKarrade I have yet to drive one that does. I'm not sure you really understand this. It's not comparable to a 4 door with a rear window open. This is a 2 door that you can't roll down the windows in. I've never had the problem that this car faces.
@TMK264
@TMK264 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is unmatched and you have the best intros in the game - period. WOW!
@eyadhossam8108
@eyadhossam8108 3 жыл бұрын
Did u forget " i am yuri, i am jacob, and we re going for a drive " or " THIS IS THE 1994 TOYOTA SUPRA "
@DavisBrendon29
@DavisBrendon29 3 жыл бұрын
eyad Hossam TheStraightPipes doesn’t even compare.
@TheGreatNoob123
@TheGreatNoob123 3 жыл бұрын
@@eyadhossam8108 The StraightPipes are a joke. They have a limited vocabulary of good, and okay. They just call specs of the car they're "reviewing" as if off a paper. There's no emotion or connection of the car they cover. And one of them can't stop jerking off over his Prowler in every video.
@pantelisellinidis5956
@pantelisellinidis5956 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas when he makes the same BMW joke for the thirty thousand time: I'll f*cking do it again!!!
@gracefigureo314
@gracefigureo314 3 жыл бұрын
Wow when he was taking those hard pulls to 7k rpm I literally felt it through the screen... Spiritual...
@MunchKing51
@MunchKing51 3 жыл бұрын
The size of that MK IV 's exhaust is just ridiculous. I love it.
@williamsongarrett1
@williamsongarrett1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you've already thought of this but you should absolutely make a video comparing the orininal AE86 to the new AE86/BRZ
@ramadhanisme7
@ramadhanisme7 3 жыл бұрын
The new 86 is spiritually a decent one to carry the old 86, if only toyota keep up the corolla badge also since the old one is basically a high performance corolla
@carsmusicandclothing7066
@carsmusicandclothing7066 3 жыл бұрын
@@ramadhanisme7 Cant even really says those cars were high performance. They were just made a martyr like every thing else that rolled out of Japan in the 80's and 90's
@KR-jg7gc
@KR-jg7gc 3 жыл бұрын
@@carsmusicandclothing7066 lol my thoughts exactly. Nothing really performance about that. In this part of the world the top of the range came with a "twincam" badge which became the Rsi (1997-1999) then the Rxi (2000- 2003).. those were and are still performance daily driver vehicles here. Absolutely our own piece of highly beloved Japanes muscle in the most southern part of africa.. idk if the rest of the world got them or loved them like here. The models following only had "sprinter" which meant almost nothing to us 🙄
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
The current 86 should always have been considered a revival of the Celica. A performance version of the Corolla would be welcome, Civic Si-like, call that the 86 if you want.
@williamsongarrett1
@williamsongarrett1 3 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth the current 86? There is no Celica at this point in time so what Celica would you be comparing it to? Definitely not the FWD version. I think I don't understand your point here. They are comparing current to past versions of cars in these videos, not different cars
@luisb3374
@luisb3374 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned an MKIV Turbo and SE. Really appreciated this video! 👍🙂
@venza2524
@venza2524 3 жыл бұрын
That end quote with the music and the Supra passing by... I'm not crying you are!
@goosejuice8057
@goosejuice8057 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that everyone is still ignoring the mk3, I need those prices low for when I buy my obtainable dream car
@senzar9970
@senzar9970 3 жыл бұрын
Psssst
@Kzuke
@Kzuke 3 жыл бұрын
It's an underappreciated car, except for the head gasket issue. I had a black '87 and loved it. Super comfortable highway cruiser with a handsome profile.
@vjabonador1067
@vjabonador1067 3 жыл бұрын
The 1JZ and 7M are still great engines. They're no 2JZ but they still produce a respectable amount of power, even by today's standards. Enthusiasts mainly put them down since they're not as tunable as the 2JZ but if you don't get too crazy with the power mods and keep up the maintenance, they still make for good performance engines.
@fuzzytheblueracer6133
@fuzzytheblueracer6133 3 жыл бұрын
all old supras was good mk5 piece of trash
@hondaCivic_hatch
@hondaCivic_hatch 3 жыл бұрын
I want a mk2, still pretty cheap
@pratikrayan6451
@pratikrayan6451 3 жыл бұрын
Last line- That's a line every man dreams of saying.
@sbfhawk4343
@sbfhawk4343 3 жыл бұрын
THat is the Goal when they say what is your dream car and you hand over your keys to your CRX, your NSX , and your SUPRA you sir are on high ground. Very priceless why I own just about all of them expect the 911 Turbo S and the newer NSX once complete I am done!!
@Bacciagalupe
@Bacciagalupe Жыл бұрын
James, that outro sums it up perfectly. Yous are the best
@SamrAutoMoto
@SamrAutoMoto 2 жыл бұрын
"I own it" gave me Goosebumps 😍🔥
@MatrixDiscovery
@MatrixDiscovery 3 жыл бұрын
The 90's Supra wasn't just a JDM legend, it was a legend period.
@KR-jg7gc
@KR-jg7gc 3 жыл бұрын
*is
@MikeyA5693
@MikeyA5693 3 жыл бұрын
@BaTTle CAt still lots of time to create that legend.
@adodoes8770
@adodoes8770 3 жыл бұрын
@BaTTle CAt bmw has plenty of legendary cars with legendary engines and the B58 is no joke.
@KevinDFuller94
@KevinDFuller94 2 жыл бұрын
Facts 💯
@juanespro3901
@juanespro3901 2 жыл бұрын
Is THE legend
@3dsmackdown
@3dsmackdown 3 жыл бұрын
Best part of the video is, ask what dream cars they wanted, the 94" owner answer almost brought a tear to my eye.
@emancebo13
@emancebo13 Жыл бұрын
Now we need an Integra face-off! Thanks for the good content as always 👌🏽
@thelastsignature
@thelastsignature Жыл бұрын
Love you guys. I have to say when I see two guys reviewing a car I can’t even because you guys are the only team I would want to watch! Amazing chemistry so fortunate to have you guys in my feed! Cheers
@jaymaster103
@jaymaster103 3 жыл бұрын
You 2 are getting crazy with the intros, I was smiling the whole time. One got to appreciate the hard work y'all put in.
@ivannarvaez367
@ivannarvaez367 3 жыл бұрын
That ending line gave me goosebumps.
@daniel-rz6bd
@daniel-rz6bd 3 жыл бұрын
😐
@andrewpittman6380
@andrewpittman6380 2 жыл бұрын
I love you guys. Brilliant opening!!!
@msgretrogamer
@msgretrogamer Жыл бұрын
Great video. Can we have more with these old car legends vs newer cars please
@poultrylord7300
@poultrylord7300 3 жыл бұрын
Was really hoping for the playable characters to include Doug and his GT, or Yuri and his Prowler. Channel crossovers are always sweet.
@kalemfinney-bonito5461
@kalemfinney-bonito5461 3 жыл бұрын
Great intro tho
@sebyfloristean9514
@sebyfloristean9514 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah And matt with his mx5
@ultraguy8771
@ultraguy8771 3 жыл бұрын
Or any of the Donut guys.
@tomycont
@tomycont 3 жыл бұрын
That intro had everything, ... even a guitar solo.
@BlAcKkYtTy1998
@BlAcKkYtTy1998 2 жыл бұрын
damn i have tears in my eyes hearing the last 2 minutes of your video. i bought a mk4 supra myself at the end of last year and i can proudfully say, i reached one if not the biggest lifegoal for me. to own one of these legends that "makes people lose their minds" as you say so beautifully, is just something different. People are going nuts next to me when i ride it on the motorway or come to ask for pictures when they see it in the city, so they can post it in their instagram storys. its just a fantastic feeling to know that you are making peoples days just by the small fact that they saw a SUPRA. that feeling of joy is just one of the most epic and most valuable things i have ever experienced.
@BlAcKkYtTy1998
@BlAcKkYtTy1998 2 жыл бұрын
@Massimo Hack you're probably right. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a fantastic car and it's the dream of many people owning one. And the same applies to cars like the buggatti veyron and so on. These cars are just as overrated.
@BlAcKkYtTy1998
@BlAcKkYtTy1998 2 жыл бұрын
@Massimo Hack that ugly thing is not overrated for 1 million? Sorry but you have clearly no idea 🤣
@NadeemAflah
@NadeemAflah 3 жыл бұрын
one of the most creative intro in a car channel❤️
@ibuddie01
@ibuddie01 3 жыл бұрын
The moment you realize it was nearly a 25 minute long video even though it seemed like a 5 minute video lol
@interceptingfist5682
@interceptingfist5682 3 жыл бұрын
I fast forwarded 20 minutes worth
@TheBimmerMan
@TheBimmerMan 3 жыл бұрын
‘Shows keys, I own it’ Well hope everyone here will get to say that sentence one day...
@GameraS2K
@GameraS2K 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to say that when so many different cars can fit the bill for me, but I own one. That being the S2000
@BB-zv8tx
@BB-zv8tx 3 жыл бұрын
lol, I have already made peace with the fact that I'll never be able to say that. Would be nice to have a 288 GTO though. Alternatively, having the entire (celica) supra bloodline would be amazing. I love the Mk3 and the celica supras so much.
@Wretched2JZ
@Wretched2JZ 9 ай бұрын
Ending was “PERFECT” that statement at the end is exactly what I would say.😊
@michaelmashburn6068
@michaelmashburn6068 2 жыл бұрын
It's still a damn good looking car after all these years
@bikeman1x11
@bikeman1x11 3 жыл бұрын
94 all the way- 90's japanese cars were awesome- 3000gt Supras integras etc
@ViolentMLG
@ViolentMLG 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a 3000GT and it was fantastic. Unreliable? Yes, but that car was so much fun and so awesome to own.
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 3 жыл бұрын
@@ViolentMLG and with some mods it’s a monster.
@Rahz743
@Rahz743 3 жыл бұрын
300zx
@referencechannel996
@referencechannel996 3 жыл бұрын
The 3000 GT was not as good, but superb looks
@sean269
@sean269 3 жыл бұрын
3000gt is so underrated you can find manuals for 2000
@masheralive3025
@masheralive3025 3 жыл бұрын
24:18 this is the difference, one is dream, other is just another sports car in sports cars. btw waiting for 400z
@U--Bravo
@U--Bravo 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the mark 4 is a 90's sportscar, a very good one. But it's still a sports cat
@TheFlyingClutchman
@TheFlyingClutchman 3 жыл бұрын
The mk4 was a GT car designed to go against the exotic gt cars from the likes of ferrari and Aston Martin, even the old 8 series from BMW. It wasnt as good as the exotics but it was wayyy cheaper and better value for money. Kind of like buying a mustang gt instead of an m3 is better value for money when it comes to performance but you lose the luxury.
@sv52308
@sv52308 3 жыл бұрын
@@U--Bravo Yes it's a very good cat
@ramadhanisme7
@ramadhanisme7 3 жыл бұрын
@@U--Bravo in the 90's perspective the a80 supra has the on par performance with the "supercar" but from gt car such as aston martin db, porsche 911, ferrari (i forgot the model) before 575 maranello and that's why many praise it, while it's rival such as gtr or nsx keep up with the supercar class the new supra downgrade it into pathetic sport car that can't keep up with r35 gtr or new nsx and that is why many japanese car enthusiast purist think that this new supra is a blasphemy to the old supra legacy
@punishedarmsdealer8763
@punishedarmsdealer8763 3 жыл бұрын
some future offspring of yours will be saying that about the 2021 Toyota Supra; while comparing it to the 2047 Toyota Supra, which is just another soulless sports car in sports cars; can you imagine they did away with steering wheels? you like, neural net the car into corners... meh... Call me a Luddite but sometimes the old ways are better
@duneattack
@duneattack Жыл бұрын
Excellent Video guys! I appreciate your comparison's, but the quote from the Mk IV owner at the very end of the video pretty much sums it up for me, and I couldn't agree more. The Mk IV is an ICON status car like no other, except maybe the LFA, which you also mentioned in this vid. Isn't it interesting that both these Icons are Toyotas? Can I throw the toyota crown in as well, just to drive my point further?
@bradr9879
@bradr9879 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love you guys . Lol come for the intro stay for the cars
@Silverbullet04
@Silverbullet04 3 жыл бұрын
When comparing the handling of a 25 year old car to a brand new one, you need to take into account the condition of the suspension components and if they've been renewed recently. It's a night and day difference with bushing upgrades, control arm replacements etc. Great point of view nonetheless.
@NatVirgo
@NatVirgo 3 жыл бұрын
Also it’s 25 year old technology mint condition or not
@nodo7575
@nodo7575 2 жыл бұрын
Also tire compound.
@skydive7054
@skydive7054 2 жыл бұрын
@@NatVirgo theres cars from the 90's that can clap cars from today
@NatVirgo
@NatVirgo 2 жыл бұрын
@@skydive7054 not stock…
@skydive7054
@skydive7054 2 жыл бұрын
@@NatVirgo uh, yes? there are many cars from the 90s that are faster than modern cars, STOCK.
@macbitz
@macbitz 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats to the owner of the original Supra - great closing statement!
@arya_moghadam
@arya_moghadam Жыл бұрын
Such a well made video! I honestly think it's a tough decision which Supra is better after noticing what features they both had. They both had their pros and cons (examples: cup holders, fake vents, small storage space).
@DigitalSubset
@DigitalSubset 2 жыл бұрын
14:23 I’m glad someone finally said it😂 people kept saying the corvettes copied the Supra when it’s the other way around
@theepicricemaker6611
@theepicricemaker6611 3 жыл бұрын
That ending bit, that's what being in love with cars is about.
@stevegee6529
@stevegee6529 3 жыл бұрын
That 25 year old supra has aged amazingly. Still looks great today
@sebyfloristean9514
@sebyfloristean9514 3 жыл бұрын
Idk what to say but yeah i guess Look how good the 2013 rs5 aged
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebyfloristean9514 Audi positively knocked it out of the park from like 2006-2015
@sebyfloristean9514
@sebyfloristean9514 3 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth ies it did Old bmw are aging a bit worse but the 2006 3 series coupe looks pretty today The r35 aged pretty good but that's more because they still produce it today That's the same thing with the 370z hut the z will age better than the r35 in my opinion
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebyfloristean9514 I agree, especially the BMW coupe. In 06 it was the E46 which was nice, but if you meant the next one, E92, that might be my favorite-ever 3 series after the E36. They do still make the Q60/G37 right? Still with a manual?
@callumstandish4782
@callumstandish4782 3 жыл бұрын
Them acting out the interior voice over kills me (15:38)
@AceCyberstarGaming
@AceCyberstarGaming Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for you two to drive & review the new manual a90 Supra
@rolygymratnavarro2093
@rolygymratnavarro2093 3 жыл бұрын
Shows us their keys and says... " I own it." Best outro ever. No better way to say it. Most people just dont get it, but the mk4 is truly one of the best built cars... ever.
@daveowen378
@daveowen378 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Not even close. Only through rose-tinted fanboii goggles.
@nonameyet2205
@nonameyet2205 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveowen378 At stock no, but as a tuner car it is one of the best. Lets see if you can get a 700-800hp on the new supra without changing the internals, the best you can get is probably 400-450hp.
@TheStigHCE09
@TheStigHCE09 3 жыл бұрын
@@nonameyet2205 No offense but you really should read up on what the B58 is capable of before you jump to conclusions.
@daveowen378
@daveowen378 3 жыл бұрын
@@nonameyet2205 that's already been done, hey.
@daveowen378
@daveowen378 3 жыл бұрын
@@nonameyet2205 take the nostalgia goggles off and be objective. 80 was cool, but it wasn't the holy grail.
@hogan_bryan
@hogan_bryan 3 жыл бұрын
*Wipes imaginary glasses* “Is that a supra!?” Lol nice reference.
@daveyclapster1631
@daveyclapster1631 Жыл бұрын
Love that he kept it stock and have nothing wrong with that. The only thing is I do think that a lot of the a80 supras legacy and the reason it is so famous is because of its tunability, so I feel like that should always be a part of the difference between old and new.
@axel9244
@axel9244 Жыл бұрын
But the thing is the new one is also very tunable, the b58 is probably the best engine to have come out in the last few years and it is known for its tuning capability.
@fredsmith9945
@fredsmith9945 2 жыл бұрын
I love the character select, lol. Such a great bit
@BMWROYAL
@BMWROYAL 3 жыл бұрын
10:20 thank you for mentioning the fake vents, I’ve seen so many mk5 fanboys defending them saying it’s easily removable when it’s clearly not
@standopowah
@standopowah 3 жыл бұрын
Ong zupra fanboys are more cancerous than a80 fanboys. They know the mk5 is a beemer so they falsely say the mk4 is a yamaha lmaooo
@daveowen378
@daveowen378 3 жыл бұрын
@@standopowah really it's a Toyota/Yamaha/RandomGermanEngineeringFirm hybrid.
@muffin4600
@muffin4600 3 жыл бұрын
@@standopowah which is a poor reply because Yamaha has made some legendary car engines: Taurus sho, Lexus LFA, AE86, lotus elise, and others. If the new supra's engine was a toyota/yamaha collaboration people would be singing it's praises
@sv52308
@sv52308 3 жыл бұрын
@@muffin4600 and Bmw? Look at every legendary car they made.
@jdj8168
@jdj8168 3 жыл бұрын
@@sv52308 good point
@ConnorHammond
@ConnorHammond 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine this. You have $67k to spend on an exhilarating car. You could choose one that will depreciate the moment it leaves the lot or choose the one that is selling into 6 digit figures already. It's a free or potentially very profitable experience of a legendary car. Take the goddamn legend!
@nobody8116
@nobody8116 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen j Do you realize this is not the 90's anymore... mate?
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
Plus that one has all three pedals
@ziqrsx
@ziqrsx 3 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth theyre making the manual soon jeez can you wait?
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
@@ziqrsx I haven't heard this. You got a source? I thought the car was never getting one.
@derekj.tejeda267
@derekj.tejeda267 3 жыл бұрын
I am not in Mark. IV's, the status just kills it for me. I'd go for the Mark. V. I'll leave the 90's Supra for somebody who really wants it.
@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163
@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 2022 A91-CF it is a blast to drive and the attention it gathers is almost annoying after while with all the stares, questions and photos people take of it. Id certainly like to have a MK4 someday as well, would be a dream to own both.
@thanatos1243
@thanatos1243 3 жыл бұрын
Claps for the creativity ❤️
@ex_sideways3970
@ex_sideways3970 3 жыл бұрын
The intros alone are worth more than a million subs.
@jefflar1992
@jefflar1992 3 жыл бұрын
Just sitting here patiently waiting for my guys to reach 1 mil, best channel on YT by far.
@dgriffen1
@dgriffen1 3 жыл бұрын
never heard a better closing statement on a car video ever!
@HybridMiranda
@HybridMiranda 2 жыл бұрын
This intro was amazing, A+++
@Rac3r4Life
@Rac3r4Life 3 жыл бұрын
I really miss my IS300. I did a 2JZ-GTE conversion. I had the manual version, so naturally I popped in a 6-speed from the supra. I stiffened the chassis, and upgraded to a fully adjustable (castor, camber, toe, stiffness, and ride height) coil over strut suspension front and rear. It was amazing around a racetrack. Edit: with the tune I was making 700hp to the wheels.
@ziqrsx
@ziqrsx 3 жыл бұрын
Where is it now?
@ervin7178
@ervin7178 3 жыл бұрын
Those first gen is300’s are so cool.
@KeenanStyles
@KeenanStyles 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen j AWD is boring
@borla4491
@borla4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@KeenanStyles And AWD is complicated to repair .
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 3 жыл бұрын
Same; I had a '95 SC300 waiting for the supra swap but job loss = kept he wrx and sold the SC300... I'll eventually get another that someone has poured their life savings/divorce special...
@coreykononchuk
@coreykononchuk 3 жыл бұрын
"276hp" yes, according to the Gentlemen's agreement. ;-)
@nobody8116
@nobody8116 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen j He's still not wrong... the cars were highly underrated in JDM as with other market specs.
@nobody8116
@nobody8116 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen j I wouldn't call underrated 276hp in 1993 as "shit", even when compared to 320hp in USDM-spec. And having owned both, IMO there's not a noticeable difference on the street. Good try, but... 👎😂
@Jordan-vg2ly
@Jordan-vg2ly 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen j wooomp wooooomp
@DziadekMroz6666
@DziadekMroz6666 3 жыл бұрын
JDM JZA80 might have 280hp, but in reality it is just above 300
@shakethedrummer2351
@shakethedrummer2351 9 ай бұрын
Love your videos Can you do a old brz vs new? In australia we discuss this alot
@01CAMRY
@01CAMRY 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome intro guys!
@M3RRIH3W13
@M3RRIH3W13 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many stories about how people feel about the IV. The "Fast and the Furious" is the other spectrum of the car. It's the legendary 2JZ with great tuning possibilities. What Toyota didn't make was a rocket car, they made an iconic Gran Tourer. It was a midsize, comfortable, and fast car to enjoy driving across the country. I think the Lexus LC500 comes to my mind when I think about the older Supra (without the larger price tag). The Supra I, II, III, and IV were all different cars. Maybe, Toyota will morph the next Supra into a GT from the LC500.
@jaredchampagne2752
@jaredchampagne2752 3 жыл бұрын
M3RRIH3W13 Nah I don’t think so, Toyota is so greedy and corporate nowadays, they’re way too cheap to actually make enthusiast based cars, they only care about making cars that sell to the masses, the BMW Supra is a supreme example of their disconnect with their true fans and literally made a car that no one asked for with a Supra badge on it, they pay someone else to build their performance cars because they don’t want to invest the money into a performance car that wont sell a million units, they only care about the bread and butter, corolla, Camry and crossovers.
@M3RRIH3W13
@M3RRIH3W13 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaredchampagne2752 I believe that you are correct. The Supra sat on the shelf for a long time. Crossovers and econoboxes get all the money.
@supraturboz
@supraturboz Жыл бұрын
The mkiv was not a gt, it’s more a sports cars than a gt, the gt was the sc/soarer, the mkiii was a traditional gt
@justinmadden7739
@justinmadden7739 3 жыл бұрын
The production value of your videos is amazing, I’m blown away. A80 Supra is an amazing car and I miss that straight six sound and just seeing them on the road. From a time when Toyota and Nissan and Honda and Mitsubishi threw caution to the wind and built these amazing cars. I miss those days.
@Wretched2JZ
@Wretched2JZ Жыл бұрын
I approve of this video!! 😂😂 you said a LOT of the same things I’ve said. One being “when you see them in vids and magazine they look bigger and longer. But in person they are actually very small! Yup!!!! 💯
@Wretched2JZ
@Wretched2JZ Жыл бұрын
And back seat is use less 😂
@gxpshmop6982
@gxpshmop6982 2 жыл бұрын
Those shifts on the new one 🔥
@davidkelley751
@davidkelley751 3 жыл бұрын
That ending about dream cars brought a tear to my eye. Good review guys. I love supras, not my dream car, but definitely one of my favorites
@sabiwabi9964
@sabiwabi9964 3 жыл бұрын
Cracked a tear at the end. Thank you for this guys
@Nolan320
@Nolan320 3 жыл бұрын
that last line sent chills down my spine
@user-xl5vz1nu7q
@user-xl5vz1nu7q 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review
@reesharris2959
@reesharris2959 3 жыл бұрын
As an Australian, am I the only one disappointed that James didn’t make reference to the A80 Supra having the steering wheel on the correct side?
@Lexrolla-1
@Lexrolla-1 3 жыл бұрын
No because everyone knows ....including him now ....being on the left side of the car is proper😊
@dietznutz1
@dietznutz1 3 жыл бұрын
OdysseyMe29 nope It came from japan and that side is correct
@jackylomega
@jackylomega 3 жыл бұрын
British conquered countries drive on the wrong side. Free countries drive on the right side. Hence the name right side of the road
@SIKCAR
@SIKCAR 3 жыл бұрын
You mean having the steering wheel on the RIGHT side!
@Lexrolla-1
@Lexrolla-1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackylomega "right" as in the opposite of left...no further meaning is implied..driving on the opposite side of the car is unnatural
@CspecSupra
@CspecSupra 3 жыл бұрын
That last line says it all. This was a great comparison video.
@arkachatterjee5179
@arkachatterjee5179 Жыл бұрын
Amazing intro. So good.
@j4n_grf760
@j4n_grf760 3 жыл бұрын
Love the mk5 but the mk4 is just so good. Especially cause it's an manuel. So mk4 for me. Maybe you can do the same thing with the GTR and NSX. Awesome video.
@MartinRonky
@MartinRonky 3 жыл бұрын
Your intros are legendary! Topgear can go cry in the corner some more xD. Rip
@Junebizzle85
@Junebizzle85 3 жыл бұрын
Best car show on KZbin, hell anywhere period. 🙌🏼
@KrishiChununsinghBeeharry
@KrishiChununsinghBeeharry 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. The Toyota Supras are very cool 🤩
@davidgorbunov8507
@davidgorbunov8507 Ай бұрын
The last 10 seconds of this video brought a tear… So true; I miss my mk4. I had to loose my dream Mk4 of 8 years of ownership; in exchange for a marriage and family. A thankful; bittersweet exchange..
@joshuapinthiere4751
@joshuapinthiere4751 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever the editor is someone give that guy a raise!!!!!
@jazzbassrocker
@jazzbassrocker 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me someone else caught the "overnight parts from JAPAN" reference.
@ZapFlashD
@ZapFlashD 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what that is
@jkeid315
@jkeid315 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZapFlashD noooooooo!!!!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3LScnV7fpyWgpo. @ 56 seconds
@bongoingaroundbritain.
@bongoingaroundbritain. 3 жыл бұрын
'Road's closed, pizza boy. Find another way home'........
@FharishAhmed
@FharishAhmed 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, it will "decimate" all.
@malmal1009
@malmal1009 3 жыл бұрын
You can push this across the finish line or tow it #CLASSIC
@setsunaes
@setsunaes 2 жыл бұрын
That last statement... my god it was cool. Very well said
@grisa12345
@grisa12345 Жыл бұрын
I was 16, working as a porter at a Toyota dealership in 1994 when the MKIV was in its heyday. I absolutely loved the car and lusted after it. I have waited patiently… and now will have a manual transmission MKV in my garage in a month. It may not be a “Toyota” but Toyota would not put their badge on it if it didn’t meet their QDR standards. Love the styling, love the speed, and the rare factor is icing on the cake.
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