Thomas in TRD: “I can’t believe how different these feel right away.” James in 370z “Aw, yes!”
@revnto7k5 жыл бұрын
I still think those Z's look good. I would rock that... But I'd rather buy a used one since there are so many out there.
@07wrxtr15 жыл бұрын
Smart way to go, then plan on an oil cooler, swaybar for the front only, tires, alignment, stereo upgrade, tune, hfc+cat back. Or, better yet, buy one that someone has already done all that and you'll be happy for about a year, then you'll be looking at turbo kits and then.... $20k later you'll have an insane vehicle! (fast intentions twin turbo, go look at some of those vids!).
@brianbaltikas82275 жыл бұрын
07wrxtr1 facts or even a 350z they are great as well
@ilootyouhoot85785 жыл бұрын
Craig Chevalier there’s a lot for sale for a reason.. their Nissan and problematic.
@fredwilliams78935 жыл бұрын
@@ilootyouhoot8578 what? You dont know what your talking about . I have owned 6 Nissans and one Infiniti. And not ONE! had any major issues that had to be in the shop. Maintenance is key! Proper maintenance being performed on any vehical correctly will keep even the worst shit boxes going for along time. Hence my 2007 Ford explorer with 220,000 miles on original trans and engine. So go rate cars you have owned or know better than Nissans and shut up about cars you know nothing about. 😉
@revnto7k5 жыл бұрын
@@ilootyouhoot8578 There are a lot more problematic cars out there than a VQ powered Z with a manual trans. And for that reason, I would still own one given the chance. I am a big S2000 fan myself, but they are in the stratosphere for used prices, so a used Z makes a good choice if you ask me..
@dubleblitz5 жыл бұрын
"Do you hear that? This is the sound of me going to jail." Such a meme.
@tizodd65 жыл бұрын
Can we get more power from the FRS? Toyota: buy this expensive ass Supra.
@rentedrug69735 жыл бұрын
more or less the same with Nissan, "can we get a new Z car?" Nissan: "Here's the new GT-R" Lmfao
@mojojoji54935 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket tuning I say
@Dropship115 жыл бұрын
You can get more power from the FRS. By buying something else.
@taahasiddiqui10715 жыл бұрын
And even then it some how makes less power than the BMW counterpart, even though they have the same engine lol what
@Dropship115 жыл бұрын
@Jacob Tratnyekfrs. 86. brz. It's the same low power car that non car guys like to drive and think they're fast.
@aquapisces245 жыл бұрын
The 86 doesn't need any increase in output, it just needs to be compared with a Miata.
@ianj43895 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't get this comparison. Compare the Nissan maybe to the new "Supra".
@Dolby1095 жыл бұрын
@@ianj4389 It would get squashed by the Supra in everything except having a manual transmission. The only real competitors for the Z (besides the Miata and 86) is the lower trim Camaros and Mustangs. Sadly the NISMO is priced similar to the SS 1LE and GT PP2 which are both WAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of it's league in performance.
@Swag-Juice5 жыл бұрын
@@Dolby109 The manual transmission alone is enough to beat that turd they call a 2020 Supra. Paul Walker is pissing down from heaven in hopes of his stream hitting that abomination.
@Thebearwand5 жыл бұрын
@@Dolby109 "Straight line performance"
@Dolby1095 жыл бұрын
@@Thebearwand In reference to what?
@SSDracerSD5 жыл бұрын
When do we get an updated 370z? Nissan - No.
@JacesOwnWorld5 жыл бұрын
My uncle works for Nissan Corporate. I recently asked him if Nissan has any plans for a new Z. He said most possibly No, but they have been talking about making it later on, but in a 2.0T version
@skvltdmedia5 жыл бұрын
Why fix what wasn't broken in all its generations? 86's engine bay department on the other hand...
@JacesOwnWorld5 жыл бұрын
Skvora Limited Media it’s not that Nissan needs to fix their 370Z. Matter of fact it’s not like any company needs to, but the reason why the 370Z is laughed at today is because there are tiny little turbo engines destroying it, while getting way better mpg’s. Me personally would love for Nissan to keep their Z platform N/A. But if they did that, they would need to make something in the 400hp+ range, but also gives it more in the 350+two range too, just to peak interest from buyers, as nobody who knows cars wants their $50k Z to be beaten by a $30k 2.0LT vehicle. They have to do that because that’s the way the sports car market has gone. That is hard to do, unless they opt for a V8 Z, which would go against the history of what a Z is about. So yeah, a turbo car is the only option really. They could use the Q Red Sport TT engine from Infiniti, which would be sick, but then they are banging on the doors of the GTR. So basically what I see is this was just poor planning on Nissans end ever since they introduced the R35 GTR, because they now have limited their Z line in what they can do with it.
@TallCade5 жыл бұрын
Jace MK7 My stepdad also works for nissan, and he gets emails about their possible being a 3.0t z in the future... Seems likes it’s more likely than not. Probably going to end up being a q60 with nissan badges
@oririona54625 жыл бұрын
jjus jjoe get outta here 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@pballer20055 жыл бұрын
you wouldn't slide on public roads, just like you wouldn't download a movie....riiight
@LivingLifeSlower5 жыл бұрын
Only peasants download movies.
@pwnyourass225 жыл бұрын
@@LivingLifeSlower only retards pay for them
@carscoffeeandcannabis-6345 жыл бұрын
@@pwnyourass22 And a true genius does neither and uses an Android Box lol
@tibor295 жыл бұрын
@@pwnyourass22 If nobody paid for movies, there would be no movies.
@pwnyourass225 жыл бұрын
@@tibor29 dont care honestly
@gustavocaballero86775 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone says the z is outdated and slow and as soon as they drive it nothing but smiles and fun. I’ll keeping my NISMO forever! I’ll eventually give it more power because why not. 😍
@joshhambleton905 жыл бұрын
they say its slow until they slam the pedal and your wheels spin and engine starts screaming and see the Z is no pussy. car is a classic example of a drivers car and doesnt try to be some overdesigned tryhard. the noise the VQ makes with some exhausts is some of the best noises a car can make. motordyne shockwave sounds like a lamborghini. and tomei is the best noise ive heard a car make
@chodkowski015 жыл бұрын
The Z Nismo is the top one put it next to a vette, Camaro, mustang or dodge and they say bye bye to the 350 hp Nismo.
@chodkowski015 жыл бұрын
Daniel Martinez, they gave up on the Z that’s why the engineers are all on the GT-R. They do not want a car that competes with there GT-R.
@chodkowski015 жыл бұрын
Daniel Martinez, one problem they have is the VVEL and turbo do not work well together. They were talking about dropping the motor size from 3.7 down to 3.0 and turbocharging it. Not really a high horse power combo.
@almightykeys47345 жыл бұрын
Dont let these keyboard warriors fool you. I get more complimants from my 2012 Z then what a mustang could ever get.
@tom11zz8845 жыл бұрын
370Z all day.... It's old, and outdated, but still so good.
@timsworld93425 жыл бұрын
I love my 370z and i couldnt have said it better myself
@randyr.85365 жыл бұрын
Same !! i Love my Z . mines 2011 and it blends in with the new Z crowd with my nismo bodykit
@terrydavis65195 жыл бұрын
Still a badass car
@eli.m1275 жыл бұрын
Honestly I hope Nissan dosent update the Z. They’ll make it look like a maxima.
@terrydavis65195 жыл бұрын
@@eli.m127 that would be exactly what they end up doing hopefully it doesn't end up with the fate the nsx had to suffer I mean the honda Prius because that's what it is just a bit faster and a whole lot more to fix at the dealership and not to mention its famed title of the slowest super car
@asiffarooqui67894 жыл бұрын
The Z looks as fresh today as it did all those years ago when launched. I literally think it's design genius. The interior is dated yes. But the exterior? Looks better than its competition. End of. 😘
@ZackRobinMusic4 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree on the exterior. It still looks great! But that interior needs an update badly
@pizzarolls2203 жыл бұрын
Bro the exterior is godly
@nuggerboi82783 жыл бұрын
I prefer the exterior of the 370z than the 400z
@josueochoa92675 жыл бұрын
im keeping my Z sport because it has aged well and if nissan decides they don't want a redesign, the Z will become a solid classic
@2amchef165 жыл бұрын
Josue Ochoa LOL.. just like how the 300ZX did (obvious sarcasm).
@adodoes87705 жыл бұрын
@@2amchef16 what's wrong with the 300zx? It's a highly respected car and pretty seeked after. I see it as a 90s classic
@kernoleary13945 жыл бұрын
@@2amchef16 that comment makes no sense 😂
@josueochoa92675 жыл бұрын
Mike Huang 240z comes to mind...
@Patrick-pu4eb5 жыл бұрын
Not really, 240z and 280z are now dirt cheap to buy
@caglioso5 жыл бұрын
You guys did this brilliantly. Walking the fine line between actual reviewing and poking fun. And of course that intro....
@callanotis79025 жыл бұрын
Dudes peddle dance made me cry
@Alexi76663 жыл бұрын
The 370Z has to be one of the most under-rated sports cars out there.
@jamesliftscircles30152 жыл бұрын
uhh
@UnitiveWILLIAM242 жыл бұрын
@@jamesliftscircles3015 its okay get your thoughts together iamsam
@brian253018 ай бұрын
And down right affordable. Too bad the nismo only bumps up like 15 horsepower lol
@HatsuneM1ku016 ай бұрын
@@brian25301better suspension vs the regular z and the Miami has a stiffer full stitch welded chassis compared to a regular z
@basithph89585 жыл бұрын
Good to see that both cars are a manual transmission That’s a true sports car right there
@masterreach975 жыл бұрын
My Toyota Yaris has a manual transmission, does it qualify as a true sports car?
@basithph89585 жыл бұрын
whatEver if that’s a fun car for you then thats all that matters I mean a sports car like 370Z or GT86 and while they are meant to be fast they are meant to be DRIVEN hence why a true sports car has a manual transmission I don’t mean a base model with a manual transmission
@yousef.al-assaf5 жыл бұрын
Not really. Worse acceleration, less focus on steering, and more prone to human-error...
@basithph89585 жыл бұрын
Yousef Al-A'ssaf يوسف العسّاف yeah but that’s not what the manual is for When you are talking about a sports car, it’s meant to be DRIVEN and the manual transmission gives the best driving experience Yes autos have gotten so much better since the past decade as they became faster and smoother but sports cars are not about speed it’s about the fun to drive experience
@yousef.al-assaf5 жыл бұрын
@@basithph8958 For me, it's much more fun to drive the car fast. Not just in a straight line, but having fun and playing around with the steering wheel. I only find that happening when I have both of my hands on the steering wheel. I could never trust myself in doing the same moves/tricks with only one hand. I know that shifting the car at high rpm's and the way it throws you inward and outward is fun, but to me, it's not as fun as jockeying around with the car. But that's just me.
@ratspike80174 жыл бұрын
About a month back I traded my '13 Toyota '86 (scarlet red, standard model, so about the same power and and a rear that broke away as soon as glance at it) for a slightly older 370Z Fairlady GT convertible (sticker ahoy!) in deep cherry red. Everything these guys have said is bang on. Both are great fun, but chalk and cheese.
@janrdoh4 жыл бұрын
These guys are the perfect match for each other on this channel but I must say James's humor really makes it.
@RISHI9jadhav94 жыл бұрын
Kudos to James fr doing his job with the wrist constrainer without being a Itch abt it. Another entertaining and perfectly informative review
@shimeih22875 жыл бұрын
The introduction was just amazing.. then when James starts talking about the 86 I lost my nuggets 😂😂😂😂
@GolnatP5 жыл бұрын
Great intro as always and that Torque Dip joke was so well placed 😆
@general385 жыл бұрын
I love the grunt of the z - put on an exhaust - an intake + tune and you have another 50hp. These motors are well built and can take a decent turbo as well.
@Masonianjar5 жыл бұрын
"Can you hear that? That's sound of me going to jail." Epic. I seriously laughed out loud 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Brando_Z335 жыл бұрын
Mason Franks same lol. Gold
@EarsXBL5 жыл бұрын
After getting a Tune to remove the torque dip it’s definitely the FIRST modification every 86 owner should consider doing day 1 of owning one.
@kevindam19464 жыл бұрын
13:31 LMAO James looks so shocked which means he didn't know Thomas was gonna do that bit 😂😂
@jamesjdm5 жыл бұрын
An f86 WILL NOT out handle a 370z let alone a NISMO. It might feel like it but that's because it's hard to feel like you're sliding in a car that is too weak to actually slide or break loose. The 86 is what you get your 18 year old as their first sports car so they don't kill themselves.
@golf1diesel5 жыл бұрын
Say that to Keiichi Tsuchiya. Oh well it's America we are on about...
@e36blur5 жыл бұрын
600 lbs does a lot for a car
@e36blur5 жыл бұрын
@Sergio Aguirre World Time Attack 2018 Open class 86 2nd place...
@e36blur5 жыл бұрын
@Sergio Aguirre I know. wheres the 370z again? Overheated in the pits lmao
@culgate5 жыл бұрын
e36blur just vq37 things
@ALL0UT3235 жыл бұрын
They both had a bigger smile in the 370z and that to me that says who the winner is if you don't take price into account. Both fun cars in all honesty but if price wasn't an issue I see more people picking a Z.
@lynnmckenney19875 жыл бұрын
*if you dont take price into account* Right...but that's a HUGE part of the comparison :/
@masterreach975 жыл бұрын
Bruhh 😂 if price wasn’t an issue I wouldn’t have taken either one of these cars
@ALL0UT3235 жыл бұрын
@@lynnmckenney1987 when I had the choice of purchasing either (well at the time it was either a fr-s or brz) the extra couple grand that I spent on my Z was worth it to me. I guess in the end that is the real question, if the higher price tag is worth it to the buyer.
@rizdraver5 жыл бұрын
For the price of a Z you could take an 86 and mod it faster than a Z.
@franklatin24115 жыл бұрын
rizdraver idk turbo brz still only make about 240whp
@gene9785 жыл бұрын
WOW That 370 reminds me of Playing Need For Speed 20 years ago. The same sound track.
@jimmieparker80933 жыл бұрын
Lol underground with carmen Electra ...oh yea that was my ish..
@jaysworld53783 жыл бұрын
Love the way the Nismo Z looks, hope to pick up a lightly used one in a few years hopefully.
@gotindrachenhart Жыл бұрын
At the time of the video the Z was only three years old and ya'll are talking about it like it's from the 90's 🤣 But man, that paint on the Z. Don't know if it was just something the camera was doing or not but if it looks like that in person then holy balls that's hot AF.
@rockervdrive5 жыл бұрын
17:21 that "pedal dance." I'm dead. lmao
@ddifi661265 жыл бұрын
I daily drive my 2010 Z and love taking it out, without fail, every single day.
@evanboyce51355 жыл бұрын
Same goes for me 350, never gets old
@2strong2474 жыл бұрын
Big facts, I drove my g35 sedan like it was a Ferrari I loved that later upgraded to that G37s coupe. Crazy fun
@ralphsmallblock43674 жыл бұрын
Always giving her the lead yee haw
@devlad5 жыл бұрын
Had my 370z for 6 years and I love it. Don't care about the infotainment, it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Granted, I don't daily it. It's an analog car like so few cars are these days. With basic mods and tuning, it's the most engaging car I've owned. But holy cow, Nissan, time for an update. This "new" model is no different from mine - it's been a decade. Let's put the VR30DDTT in at least.
@onyiiilo3785 жыл бұрын
People say 370z look dated only cos not much has changed in the way it looks over the years but compared to new cars of today it still looks better! It looks better than the 86 and the new supra!
@metalbudsgaming83712 жыл бұрын
As good as these older videos are you can really see how much their production values have grown in 2022 videos. Love seeing the channels growth like that. 👍
@alexturnqest62025 жыл бұрын
That man dipped when he saw "I'm home alone"👀😂
@notliluzivert6774 жыл бұрын
dipped harder than the torque in the 86
@alpenjodel245 жыл бұрын
The GT86 with a supercharger, oil cooler and intercooler is perfect. Got 290hp out of mine with stable temps all the time, the supercharger also eliminates the torque dip very well. Got the car used for 18k, then spend around 8k for the upgrades. Awesome car.
@NewDesignVinylGraphics5 жыл бұрын
alpenjodel24 yeah I bet with those mods it’s a fucking blast to drive
@thivakarsaravanamuthu47445 жыл бұрын
Nice man is that with the stock engine
@DjDizzy2165 жыл бұрын
Nice! Which supercharger kit did you go with? I have a BRZ and went with the SBD turbo kit 3 years ago. I don’t think I could enjoy this car without FI.
@alpenjodel245 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a HKS supercharger kit with oil- and intercooler, done by a local shop.
@mudundisivaramaraju46405 жыл бұрын
195k subs is a joke You and The Straight Pipes are the most underrated channels in youtube
@vernonprice59865 жыл бұрын
Fully agree
@coolsahib5 жыл бұрын
Redline reviews also
@JacesOwnWorld5 жыл бұрын
Mudundi Siva Rama Raju it’s because they are REAL car enthusiasts and make REAL car videos. All these other gay youtubers just vlog and get views that way. It’s disappointing
@ZS-xi4xk5 жыл бұрын
The Straight Pipes are awful, love these two though.
@StrykerV85 жыл бұрын
Agreed, straight pipes are absolute trash. These guys are amazing
@ELITECMDR6665 жыл бұрын
I own the TRD 86 and I LOVE IT. It takes me back too when I owned a 1986 2 door Corolla GT-S. While it isn't fast me living in Puerto Rico this car is a grip monster in the curves. Love the car period.
@KosmicKitchen2 жыл бұрын
'The BRZ and the 86 need a 6 cylinder' - Amen, and I am saying this as a BRZ owner.
@Luigi125005 жыл бұрын
as soon as he got the text saying “I’m alone” 8 police sirens got lit up outside my house and I didn’t know if it was from the video or real life 💀💀💀
@cleverpython15465 жыл бұрын
350z will always be my favorite car
@deni88145 жыл бұрын
Reason I got a Q50 with 3.7 motor, love the sound of the VQ.
@MajedTaib4 жыл бұрын
"I'm Yuri, I'm Jacob..." Oh wait it's the wrong channel
@carterdavis27934 жыл бұрын
and we're goin for a drive!
@academiaengineering51364 жыл бұрын
I’m James, I’m Thomas and we’re going for a drive
@richardgentry55895 жыл бұрын
370z nismo nearly reaching the pinnacle of 100hp/liter and people hating. It's okay though, the unwarranted hate just translates to cheaper used market while the flat brimmed vapey boiz buy their stanced scions lol.
@louiscrespo12805 жыл бұрын
Dang comparatively their almost catching up to honda in 06
@richardgentry55895 жыл бұрын
@@louiscrespo1280 yes the f22a is nice 🏁 very relevant to the cars compared the this video
@Crypto_mining_lab5 жыл бұрын
nearly reaching the pinnacle , well the 86 surpassed it ,its 102.5 hp/L
@Motherofmusic4 жыл бұрын
@@Crypto_mining_lab still slower than 95% of normal sedans, trucks and even mini vans sold today, no thanks....
@mediocreman24 жыл бұрын
louis crespo In 1999
@PL888HI5 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with either one >>> as long it's MANUAL !!
@southernclassik4 жыл бұрын
Manual.... eww
@southernclassik4 жыл бұрын
I live in the 21st century.
@rohaniyer75894 жыл бұрын
Violated Gerber Baby So do these cars, clown.
@owenhaynes59684 жыл бұрын
Violated Gerber Baby I’m 13 years old and i own a 2007 toyota yaris 5 speed that was given to me and it’s way more fun to drive than any automatic vehicle i’ve driven.
@hmorris4 жыл бұрын
Owen Haynes HAHAHAH try city roads or congested higways
@mo72865 жыл бұрын
That 'Torque Dip' must taste bad on the 86
@KarminUwU5 жыл бұрын
I busted out laughing when he turned it and it showed torque dip
@islandboypopo5 жыл бұрын
I have an STI, and as soon as I test drove the Nismo I fell in love. I was hooked !
@SilverScarletSpider Жыл бұрын
15:31 James’ Mum is a legend. His mum’s choice to get a 2011 Nissan 370Z no doubt must have influenced his decisions to get a 2013 Subaru BRZ, Jaguar F Type, and eventually his little pale blue dot Mazda Miata MX5 ND.
@callsigncrusader98775 жыл бұрын
Gt 86 is so good I have some mods too Turbo (260) bhp Short throw shifter Better brake pads Dunlop tyres
@BrendanEvan5 жыл бұрын
DEADLY noob gaming thought this was a poem for a second there
@RipPhillips5 жыл бұрын
You have my daily goal man good job
@Sarim_Seth4 жыл бұрын
18:01 Sound of me going to Jail ... this line wins the internet for me today
@hamper1165 жыл бұрын
Can you guys please do a track battle for these two? I think it would be a great battle
@djbradz74535 жыл бұрын
350hp vs 205hp don't think it would b much of a battle unfortunately
@hamper1165 жыл бұрын
@@djbradz7453 I agree the power differences are there, but the handling of the gt86 could make this a close race
@eddy5405 жыл бұрын
@@hamper116 soo true.
@nukeditful5 жыл бұрын
I’ve tangled with a 370 on track...as soon as you hit a straight it just marches away. But...the 86 is easier to drive at the limit, so you can surprise some Z cars at hpdes
@KBP184 жыл бұрын
“ Can you hear that ? That’s the sound of me going to jail “ AMEN 😭😭
@Ghost16-k5n4 жыл бұрын
What I love about the Z is that despite being a modern car, it's at heart an old classic
@ThePedalDance5 жыл бұрын
I have a BRZ with header and tune. I absolutely love it! Great car. Super reliable. Averages 29mpg basically all the time. Highly recommend!
@kj8632 Жыл бұрын
How much power does ur BRZ make with just the header and tune?
@mikewazowski76135 жыл бұрын
Thomas and James, happy hump day fellas. Great video as always and congrats on 200,000 subs right around the corner.
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
Mike Wazowski thanks mike!
@legendkiller12905 жыл бұрын
don’t know why these two cars are being compared when there’s almost 2x difference in power between the two
@kingkong54834 жыл бұрын
Akram Ibrahim and 1.7l
@daviddedos4 жыл бұрын
And $13,000
@Q_N-4 жыл бұрын
I think they just randomly put this together without doing any real history research on the 2. The 86 was never meant to be compared to the 370. Because originally the 86 is technically a corolla. Or at least the original from 86’.
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks4 жыл бұрын
Agree the NISMO wasn't best comparison but least they got TRD to try lol. Best get the base model for $28k plus ttl same price 86 discounts are awesome on 370z
@Angry-Lynx3 жыл бұрын
because they are very comparable, basically same class - old school, simple rwd sport coupe and have very similar target
@danielchute18864 жыл бұрын
the 2021 400z is going to be an absolute monster. with a twin turbocharged v6 its gonna be an animal
@saadsohayl18582 жыл бұрын
‘’This is the sound of me going to jail’’ absolute classic 🤣👌🏻
@clavicusvile54505 жыл бұрын
Traded my 2014 FR-S for a 2018 370z Sport. Best decision of my life
@MiguelAngel-wg4ws5 жыл бұрын
Clavicus Vile man with common sense
@feixiangtang17355 жыл бұрын
Was your FRS paid off? Thinking about doing the same thing but im still doing payments on my FRS wanted to know if it's still possible to do a trade in.
@clavicusvile54505 жыл бұрын
@@feixiangtang1735 : My FR-S was payed off, made the paperwork way easier as well
@Snacksu5 жыл бұрын
That pedal dance 17:22
@joshdavis73115 жыл бұрын
Always a great morning when I wake up to a Throttle House video! Thank you!
@Big__Ry6 ай бұрын
The smiles that the 370z Nismo gives you tells you all you need to know.
@killchasey2 жыл бұрын
As so many other people have said, so many other places: People speak of how dated the 370Z is (mostly people who don’t drive one or care for tech DESIGNED for eventual obsolescence) and yet, every time you see someone DRIVE one it’s all smiles.
@INUMIMI285 жыл бұрын
When 350Z came out people bashed it for dropping turbos, nearly 20 years later people wants it to be naturally aspirated. Very interesting
@kevinlau20415 жыл бұрын
I believe it's because if they go turbo with the new Z it'll be a 4 cylinder (with little HP improvement over the 6 cylinder NA. It's main focus is mostly to meet MPG regulations). I think it'll be a different story if the next Z is a 6 cylinder turbo or even a V8 NA like the E92 M3. I doubt many people would complain.
@INUMIMI285 жыл бұрын
Kevin Lau I doubt it’ll just be a 4 cylinder because Nissan already has VR30DDTT, and they’ll probably gonna use it. I think people are just getting sick of turbocharging everything. It’s no longer special, and we know the cons about turbo as much as we know pros now, like sounds, response, etc. Z34 is old, but old enough to be something unique and special, and people want to be that way probably.
@aziisokov75 жыл бұрын
“Coming back atcha with a classic 205 horsepower....”
@jamescarson66815 жыл бұрын
Great production and I agree with most of what you guys mention in this video (especially the torque dip issue that the Toyobaru 86/BRZs have rather than its 'lack of power') BUT, unless you're talking about a used 370z vs a new Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ, i'm just not sre if its right to pitch the two together as their specs are incomparable. The 370z is more of a rival to the A90 2020 Toyota Supra and the 86/BRZ are more of a rival to the Mazda MX-5 with its power+weight figures. Nevertheless, good job. And unfortunately, its only in Japan where we can have the Toyota 86 GR, Toyota 86 14R-60 and Toyota 86 GRMN that all feature much better brakes and some feature much better aero and slight power upgrades.
@joetaka76205 жыл бұрын
I doubt I agree that its necessary for the 86 to have a 6 cyl as it is suppose to be a successor to the Toyota AE86 which has a 4 cyl that were designed to be driven at 10/10ths around the narrow tight & twisty touge roads in Japan unlike the wide straight roads you get in N.America... Keiichi Tsuchiya (aka THE Drift King) proved the internet that you can have so much fun on the touge in a modest powered AE86 and the 'new' 86 whilst not spending too much on consumable costs. After all, if you want a 6cyl RWD Coupe Toyota, thats what the Supra is for is it not? Tetsuya Tada san (engineer of both the Supra + 86) hinted that they might release the manual version of the Supra soon, once demand of the early batch cars start fading away.
@jahimuddin73805 жыл бұрын
I do not care what people say about it being outdated, I love it for that. The moment they start making it mire up to date with all of that technology, all of the car guys will bitch about it.
@screenPhiles4 жыл бұрын
I thought that that text was from James. It would make so much sense.
@carcaregh46985 жыл бұрын
You need the new Supra 2020 with 300+ horse power
@LivingLifeSlower5 жыл бұрын
@Amer mur And that a bad thing...why???
@visionariable5 жыл бұрын
So much complaints about the 370z, but enthusiasts will be begging for a car like that in the near future. It’s as raw as a driving experience you can buy and really is a driver’s car. It’s manual, RWD, has a beefy NA V6 engine, handles very well in stock form, and in my honest opinion is still a good looking car. What more could you ask for from something that does what it was meant to do, which is to be driven.
@nazmulbhuiyan73045 жыл бұрын
I would love a 400+ HP from a naturally aspirated 3.0 litre engine for Nissan Fairlady
@kernoleary13945 жыл бұрын
Well considering a gt3rs has a 4.0 6 cylinder making 520 hp and costs 200k.. I'm not sure nissan could make their engine have similar hp/L ratio and still be a budget friendly and reliable sports car
@christianmatute6365 жыл бұрын
Nazmul Bhuiyan after my upgrades and a tune I’m aiming for 340whp which is about 400 crank. Budget gt3 lol
@cristianchavira85915 жыл бұрын
@@kernoleary1394 Z1 motorsports has a 400HP kit for g37/370z that costs 2500 dollars. So nissan could easily incorporate into their car. And wouldn't cost 200k lol
@matthodson41715 жыл бұрын
I think we’re more likely to see the Infiniti VR30DDTT as an option!
@klemzale53705 жыл бұрын
2.5-3.L inlive6 or V6 Twinturbo would be reasonable theese days. Europe and japan is in downsizing cycle for a long time. Unless they are planning to sell the Naturally aspirated big engine car for USA market only. In europe it would not sell. Even the big boys wend hard on downsizing, even ferrari is going for it. Lets face it, Audi, BMW, and Mercees, they all sue smaller units now and turbocharged to the moon, and that is just a couple examples
@mooglygoogly56605 жыл бұрын
Bought a 86 over a Z, miata and Wrx. It’s just so much more fun and the extra two seats are perfect for cargo. I take it out and fold rear seats down, get in my sleeping bag under the night sky. Wish it had a moonroof.
@thumpertorque_5 жыл бұрын
The design of the 86 is just so much nicer with that aggressive front end. I just can't get myself to like the looks of the 370, that rounded body style and the headlights just don't do it for me.
@a.jennings46644 жыл бұрын
I chose a new BRZ over a 370Z, no regrets.
@christopherbyrd25975 жыл бұрын
I have that same smile they both couldn’t hide every time I drive my 370. Lol.
@anthonymoy44715 жыл бұрын
(Owning and driving a 86 as a daily current) you shouldn’t even put one in a comparison the 86 is Prius with a capable chassis. The z is a accurate sports car. The gt86 is rear wheel drive 90’s Celica sold in 2020 🤷🏼♂️ honestly
@PhilipSamuelson5 жыл бұрын
i'm not even an 86 fan at all, but I agree with you 100%. These are apples and oranges, a car more designed for autocrossing in the 86 (handling over horsepower) versus a pure-bred track car in the 370z (all around power and handling combined).
@doriangray23475 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipSamuelson the 370z cannot come close to handling of a new BRZ. It just is a difference machine, straight line and tall profile sportscar. I had the 370 and i now have BRZ with performance package
@PhilipSamuelson5 жыл бұрын
@@doriangray2347 So basically you agree with me lol thanks! A friend of mine has an 86, I smacked him on a road course because my 370z was an all-around car, power AND handling, not just handling.
@doriangray23475 жыл бұрын
Philip Samuelson absolutely not. Brz has immense better handling. Your friend sucks and his tires and wheels suck too im guessing
@anthonymoy44715 жыл бұрын
Dorian Gray I’m on coilovers and wheels on my 86 and my 350z was stock a better performing car 🤷🏼♂️ faster and suspension felt pretty nice
@brettsuddreth51715 жыл бұрын
Still own a 370Z and it’s still fun and pretty quick, a huge upgrade was the Michelin pilot super sport tires - taking off down some old country roads still brings me joy
@aarond.67705 жыл бұрын
“It’s the sound of me going to jail” lmao
@TenToesUp4503 жыл бұрын
The Z’s may be outdated but it’s still a beautiful car. They have a huge fan base due to the uniqueness and I feel if they change to much they will lose those fans. As the saying goes “why replace what isn’t broke” the endless mods available for these cars will make them legendary for years to come!
@chisquare57015 жыл бұрын
It's not embarrassing that they show you the torque dip. It's honest. I like that they did that instead of covering it up, or just not showing it. Don't encourage corporate dishonesty to customers! Like your work, btw.
@SwangaSuiteAuto Жыл бұрын
I have a V1 nismo I bought for an absolute steal precovid, and its still kicking strong. I love it. Would never sell.
@charles-fq2dw Жыл бұрын
I miss mines, wish i didnt sell it
@VerryJerry905 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to do a review on the 2019 Corvette before the 2020 model comes out
@joetaka76205 жыл бұрын
I doubt I agree that its necessary for the 86 to have a 6 cyl as it is suppose to be a successor to the Toyota AE86 which has a 4 cyl that were designed to be driven at 10/10ths around the narrow tight & twisty touge roads in Japan unlike the wide straight roads you get in N.America... Keiichi Tsuchiya (aka THE Drift King) proved the internet that you can have so much fun on the touge in a modest powered AE86 and the 'new' 86 whilst not spending too much on consumable costs. After all, if you want a 6cyl RWD Coupe Toyota, thats what the Supra is for is it not? Tetsuya Tada san (engineer of both the Supra + 86) hinted that they might release the manual version of the Supra soon, once demand of the early batch cars start fading away.
@jamescarson66815 жыл бұрын
True points. Japan has its engine displacement tax so I guess Toyota wanted to keep the 86 'atteinable' for more people. If they did have a 6cyl option available exclusively for the N.American market where they have straight roads, the Japanese domestic fans will be pissed at Toyota I reckon.
@basithph89585 жыл бұрын
The 370Z is a good car but we have been dying for a new Z car
@soulsnatcher54085 жыл бұрын
What a 390z?
@kernoleary13945 жыл бұрын
No.. a new 300z(x)
@JpOcDenver5 жыл бұрын
They’ll ruin it. Turbo 4 most likely. The current Z is exactly what it’s supposed to be. Low-tech, naturally aspirated 6 cylinder, mildly-quick sports car, that handles well and looks good, for a reasonable price. I own one. It has its shortcomings, mostly in tech and luxury, but only if you ignore price. Brand new base models for $30k all day long. It’ll be one of the last “purist” sports cars. Going to try my damndest to never get rid of it. I think it’ll become a novelty.
@k20z3keith75 жыл бұрын
The baby version of the GTR. That sound is beautiful 😍
@Fedethedangerous955 жыл бұрын
There's quite a good number of things to appreciate in this channel, but just let me say I love your humour! Also because it's not all over the place
@mikehawk54665 жыл бұрын
With the price difference you can slap a turbski on the 86 and boom problem solved. It’ll still be lighter and handle better too.
@RipPhillips5 жыл бұрын
And not bare bones either with that price diff wheels turbo tune easy
@boygenius538_84 жыл бұрын
People say “turbo, and supercharge” so nonchalantly. That’s not an easy process.
@Daredevil7585 жыл бұрын
The peddle dance killed me. Im dead. "I want everything off"
@its.Andy15 жыл бұрын
The 370Z may be old and outdated but there’s honestly no comparison between the two. Even a base model 370Z. 332hp/350hp and 200hp is a big difference. Both cars are meant for handling. Not that I’m bashing on the 86, it looks alright to me.
@lynnmckenney19875 жыл бұрын
Definitely no comparison at all once price comes into play.
@frbrbrgrblgrr77775 жыл бұрын
5:52 " and I loved it " swallows deeply
@mr.2cents.8465 жыл бұрын
I drove the BRZ once. Was shocked how lame it accelerated for 200hp. In the late 80's early 90's 200hp was very good. Put 200hp in a 1988 Opel Manta B and you have a rocket. I always wished someone would compare side by side, Head2Head an '88 Fiero GT to a 2018 BRZ... Do that guys, PLEASE do that. On a track, quarter mile. And see what happens.
@mr.2cents.8464 жыл бұрын
Only the four bangers did if the oil level got too low because the oil pan eas too small.
@ravenstylea25 жыл бұрын
Wish the 86/BRZ had an 8500k redline at least since it doesn’t have a ton of power; Subaru could have given the motor more beans in that regard.
@raidenb45125 жыл бұрын
As a owner of a GT86, I'm agree with you.
@K03sport5 жыл бұрын
Balanced engines seem to be harder, aka more expensive to make; but a b&b'd, all motor fa20/fa22 stroker engine would be nice.
@eddy5405 жыл бұрын
@@K03sport well said bro
@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet49475 жыл бұрын
Just so you know that Toyota's DNA injected all over it helped it reach the 200 horsepower output. Without Toyota's D4S DNA, it would've been more anemic.
@CplCheeto5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Toyota 86 860 special edition and I know from experience that it will do 100mph in 5th gear and over 140 in 6th with 2k rpm left before redline
@eggroll68945 жыл бұрын
370 may not be the most lugerious, but feels like such an underrated car.
@FallenJustice5 жыл бұрын
86 all day everyday.
@isaacsangels72355 жыл бұрын
Justice nahhh
@russellsykes86895 жыл бұрын
Good to see somebody gets it
@russellsykes86895 жыл бұрын
@Daniel MartinezOnly little kids worry about that
@FallenJustice5 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Martinez Straight line speed is not what this car is about. 0-60 is under 7 seconds, bolt ons and/or turbo can make the car even faster. But people who drive this car dont care, its more than driving in a straight line. This car dominates on a track.
@russellsykes86895 жыл бұрын
@@FallenJustice Ain't that the truth 👍
@alikovacevic Жыл бұрын
I knew the 86 had a torque dip before I bought mine. I actually didn't mind that it had a flaw like that. It is an opportunity to tune your 86 the way you want to do it. The philosophy from the ae86 is maintained. It's almost like the 86 platform leaves the door open for tuning because it's incredibly easy to do. However if you're looking to maintain reliability, DO NOT push the boxer engine over 300 horsepower. Once you go over 300 horsepower you're going to be walking a thin line between speed and detonation. Without any tune you can shift around the torque dip as long as you're staying under 3,000RPM until you hit 5th gear. If you keep it in 1st gear like a dummy, you will be at the mercy of the torque dip because you're over 3,000RPM's before 5th gear. This is a tip for people that drive the vehicle stock. The 86 reacts to weight and tires like I've never seen before in other cars I've driven. Because it's so light, even an axle-back muffler delete will give you a ton speed solely on the stock muffler weighing SO MUCH. You don't have to go cat-back exhaust, save your money. If you're looking for ways to tune the 86 I would recommend starting with solely a Stage 1 ECU open-flash tune. All that tune does is increase the amount of fuel being injected and requires your car to take premium every time. Try and upgrade the OEM battery to a Shorai battery, along with replacing the OEM fuses with higher quality aftermarket fuses. That increases the throttle response of the car and reduces the torque dip quite a bit. If you are willing to take it even further, the next step is changing the final gear ratio to 4.8. Do not change the gear ratio by yourself. Take it to a shop and pay the labor fees. Trust me on this one. From there, if you're somehow still not satisfied you can install Unequal Length Headers and a bigger air intake along with an aftermarket aluminum radiator to take care of the overheating problem. It will require a Stage 2 tune. However, this will eliminate the torque dip completely. The only sacrifice at this point is fuel efficiency because the boxer engine is NA. Weight reduction will reduce the fuel efficiency problem. I find that tuning the car this way to start is the best thing to do. It's not worth going the supercharger or turbo route because you're playing with reliability at that point with the boxer engine. Not to mention the price of a supercharger or turbo kit + all of the supporting mods. Save the headache. Save your wallet. If you're planning on going crazy with horsepower (300+) you might as well engine swap. The nice thing is that the OEM chassis can fit a 2JZ or any RB-Series engine no problem. If you are planning on going the engine swap route, please please please try and mount the engine as low as you can in the engine bay, even if it requires custom engine mounts and some welding. It will help with cornering drastically. This whole process is actually really fun to do because the OEM engine bay is very easy to work with. Everything is in an easy to locate spot for the most part. Happy Tuning! 🔧
@SDThondas2 жыл бұрын
Still my dream to own a Nissan Z. I learned to drive stick on a 1988 turbo and ever since then I’ve wanted one
@appalachianoperator4 жыл бұрын
Why is the z going up in price even though the car hasnt changed
@logicxhardcorex3 жыл бұрын
drift tax my friend
@graham10345 жыл бұрын
Well there are rumors now that the 86/BRZ may get Subaru's 2.4L, either NA (~220hp) or turbo'd (~260hp). While I personally love my G35's V6 power, I think the 2.4L just makes sense (also harkens back to the 240sx). It would have better every day power in the low-mid rev range while giving much better fuel economy. Likely it would also be lighter and fit better without having to lengthen the car.
@tokiohotelsucks1232 жыл бұрын
You called it
@swagpig17414 жыл бұрын
"2 of last rear wheel drive sports cars" 2020 Mita: I'm I a joke to you?
@WatchGeek4 жыл бұрын
That sound!!!! I'm loving the 370 more and more as the years go by, I think it will be a great "old school pure sports car" one day!
@bhill2523 жыл бұрын
“I put it on my lunch box” classic!! 🇨🇦
@ohcertified5 жыл бұрын
honestly what does the 2020 370z have that the 2019 370z doesn’t
@Brock_CO4 жыл бұрын
Not sure about 2020 specifically but alot of things have changed since the early models. Oil cooler, clutch pedal, backup camera in the mirror, smoked headlights, led DRL's, in 2015 the nismos were entirely redesigned with a new body and interior. I'm missing a bunch but overall the car has been refined and updated, contrary to the rumors.
@momotaroux2644 жыл бұрын
Biggest difference is the clutch. 2018 and newer Zs get the Exedy clutch, which also fixed some dumping issues on older models