2021 Yamaha Tracer 9 GT - From A BMW F900XR Owner

[@MotoXplor]

I'd be willing to bet that the reliability is higher and maintenance costs lower on the Yamaha. That should be a factor in choosing as well. As a previous BMW owner, I think I'd choose the Yamaha.

[@chrishart8548]

I think bmw services are responsible prices. On the bigger services with valve adjustments they are a lot but what does a yamaha dealer charge ? And the bmw dealer has better coffee

[@alithejumbo]

In service there isn't much difference. It's only in accessories and spare parts where BMW rips off. BMW owner here.

[@chrishart8548]

@@alithejumbo some parts are reasonable for bmw some are silly. Rear rack bmw £58 rear rack yamaha £169 bmw aux lights £500 akro exhaust £900.. also there is a bmw online store selling genuine parts much cheaper. I too own a bmw. Since 2014 loving it so far absolutely no issues. The guys at the dealer in Bristol cribs causeway are fantastic

[@martythompson6509]

I'd guarantee the Yamaha wouldn't need to be on a trickle charger to start after two weeks in the shed. My XR drains the battery if not ridden regularly. My 20 + year old Kawasaki starts on the button with 4-6 months layaways. Something you will need to accept if you buy anything Euro...... they are just not as reliable no matter how much owners try to convince you. I'm on my 2nd beemer and they are just not as reliable.

[@chrishart8548]

@@martythompson6509 most modern bike run the battery down. It's the ECU and the parasitic drain. It's OK on cars but there battery's are almost 10x the size. I give mine a go on the trickle charge once a month. Battery over 7 years old now. Bet if I had the bmw alarm fitted I'd have 3 dead batteries by now. Bike is a f800gs

[@alexandreashardt1463]

I believe this Yamaha is the best motorcycle to make you money worth in mostly situations. Powerfull, great handle and nice design.

[@_sr]

That dual screen design and that "mask" looking right back at you, that once seen can't be unseen, will cut the sell numbers for this bike so hard..

[@mtbman2479]

Groucho Marx with those eyebrows

[@dougaugustine933]

Every bike has it's pros & cons but this design is a real head scratcher. Trying to be too cute for their own good.

[@_sr]

@@dougaugustine933 this screen design was the only reason I decided not to buy :(

[@Lolpyyy]

Having seen the mentions of the screen look, I thought it would bother me with this bike. But seeing it live, it doesnt bother me at all. Would had still preferred a large single display but wasnt a deal breaker for me. Had it for a few days now and loving everything except the seat on the bike.

[@_sr]

@@Lolpyyy still a solid bike in every way man! I wish you happy riding, enjoy! I am just sensitive to some aspects is all:) that's just me:)

[@gwynnromano5881]

That dash reminds me of the kids movie from years ago, WALL-E. As you stated, once you see it you can’t unsee it.

[@bjrnbirkeland5893]

Me too, that dash holds me back for wanting to buy the Tracer 9 GT. My 2015 Tracer works perfectly fine. Excellent review!

[@d0n_key]

The positive side of having split screens is that you can mount your phone in between them - that way you don't need connectivity either ;)

[@KurtG85]

I'm looking at buying a tracer. Is there certain years I should avoid or seek out?

[@battlejitney2197]

I have a 2015 FJ-09 (first gen Tracer) and am spending a lot of time and extra money to sort it out and overcome design flaws in wind flow, clutch noise, and engine vibration that makes all-day riding and touring distractingly uncomfortable. MANY owners of 1st and 2nd gen FJ/Tracers note these issues. I suspect the 2022 and newer models corrected many is not all of these design flaws. Depending on what your riding style is, I recommend looking for one of the newer models.

[@MatheusXJapan]

At the end, it does not matter the type of bike, but the road, the wind on the face and the felling of freedom! Great video! 🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Richard1976]

Looks like a great bike, only the seat height worries me with my 2.00 meter length.

[@NothingToProve]

Yea, being that tall, you might want to look at the bigger ADV bikes, they would fit your leg/frame better.

[@Richard1976]

@@NothingToProve Probably will go for a 2018/19 mutlistrada 1260 enduro or ktm super adventure 1290 S.

[@AnythingReviewedHub]

Hi Scott, thanks for the fantastic videos. Can you review the 2022 BMW 850 GS Adventure vs the Tracer 9 GT please?

[@samsara3694]

Another great video Scott - probably the most considered review of the Tracer GT on YT, and certainly the most enjoyable. Always look forward to your content, thank you again.

[@masterspin7796]

The "raspy" intake sound on my Dragster RR never gets old, when I sell it Im going to miss this sound more than anything in the world!

[@brucekendall52]

Good to hear the direct comparison.Justified analysis.Thanks.

[@stevebits8972]

I own the 2021 Tracer I love the bike love your genuine review of both bikes

[@geextar]

Just a small note on fuel economy. I have put down 2000km on my 9GT now and consuption is down to 4,2l/100km. Basically no highway riding. Its pretty easy to ride in the low revs, that engine is absolutely fine with it.

[@twowheeleddaydreams4291]

I have test ridden both of the bikes now. I just felt at home on the Tracer 9 GT far far more. drove out of the dealer on the yammie and was comfortable immediately. The dash on the Tracer looks silly but honestly once your riding you dont notice it and i found the layout actually quite good. I also disagree on the ergonomics. test riding both for an hour i felt the tracer was better for ergo and looks which is two points you gave the the XR. i currently ride a 2012 XJ6 diversion and it starts to become uncomfortable at 1.5hrs and useless for longer than that for me. I rode tthe tracer for 1hr and felt so fresh my body felt no worse than being in a car really. givs great confidence for commuting and touring I would hands down by the Tracer (and think i actually will). I would also hands down pay a bit more for the Tracer if the right hand screen could be used for phone connection and if it was keyless ride but wouldnt stop me buying one now necessarily - but might make me hold off for the 2022 model to see if they add those.

[@mymotosai5036]

Good comparison with the BMW. Have you ridden a Triumph Tiger 900? I'm curious to know when you would rank the Tiger with the other two. Cheers

[@twowheeleddaydreams4291]

@@mymotosai5036 I haven't test ridden the tiger no, but to be honest I watched a youtuber review of a test ride of the Tiger and they had also already test ridden the other two and there review made me happy that i wouldnt be interested in test ridding the tiger. I cannot remember the specifics of the review to be honest but again the positives they were taking from the tiger over the tracer just didnt track from having test ridden the tracer. you can never tell without test riding of course but the review of the tiger just made me think that in essence it wasnt for me. I am also basing this on the fact that if i were to pay that much money for a motorbike it would have to be if not my forever tourer my forever commuter and Yamaha has to be the easiest to self service long term. I am tempted to pay a visit to triump to test a speed twin just for fun so might take a tiger for a spin at the same time but honestly a tracer 9 gt with a set of givi trekker cases seems like the dream commuter/tourer to me!

[@mymotosai5036]

@@twowheeleddaydreams4291 I just sold my 2016 MT09 and bought a Speed Twin a few months ago. Absolutely love the Speed Twin and having a blast on it! I put 45,000km on the MT09 so time for a change and the Speed Twin was a good choice as it has soo much more character and soul than the MT09.

[@TheAskme32]

2022 won't have any change, even the colors will remain same.

[@chuckcull5674]

I tried to get a tracer 9 GT in the US this spring and no dealer could tell me when they would get them, orders were being cancelled, the new motorcycle market was a mess over here the first half of 2021. I ended up buying a Triumph Tiger 900 GT instead and absolutely love it.

[@SickBikeDude]

Lol my Yamaha dealer has only 3 bikes in their whole building.... one of which is that 3 wheeled thing.

[@edvanloon]

that powertrain/ induction sound is to die for

[@_Makanko_]

Great review. I fully understand how that cockpit is a dealbreaker.

[@AndBerberan]

It was for me, I was so close to buy it, but the those eyes and the side cases....nan!

[@stephenchapman8344]

Great review Scott. BMW for me. Think Yamaha made an error with the Groucho Marx tft.

[@majormassenspektrometer]

3:46 I can only hear that intake and engine noise when I lean completely forward onto the tank behind the windshield out of the wind. If I lift my head any higher up into the wind, I have a constant storm around my head that hurt my ears after a while with a good ringing after 1-2 hours on the bike. I would freakin love to only hear that intake noise but not gonna happen on the 2018 model. Time for a new windshield I guess.

[@johnridesadv2512]

If the Yamaha had a 6" TFT that was as functional as the BMW, do you think that alone would sway you over to the Yamaha? Seems like you liked the engine, powertrain, sound, etc on the Yamaha, which is a good chunk of the riding experience. Is that ugly dash on the Yamaha the true deal breaker?

[@yan-jk1ti]

The Dash i great in my eyes... i really like it..

[@savasorama]

definitely it is for me. 🥸

[@hhyling8483]

I own Yamaha tracer 9 its really a fantastic bike

[@rodrigofabregas7756]

Nice review man!, I bought the 2023 BMW F900xr two weeks ago, like it very much, the only thing (that's why was about $ 3.550 cheaper), has no way to install the Dynamic riding engine modes, because was no factory pre-installed , I don't want it to race, so...I took the offer. Thank you!

[@pedromiguelareias]

Have the older one, the 900 GT, bought new in 2019 and I'm reasonably happy with it. It is not outstanding, but it gets the job done.

[@NiekkieNick]

Reasonably happy? Can you tell me why? I own the same 900 GT and really loving it! I do miss the ability for down quickshifting. Overall really happy with it.

[@pedromiguelareias]

@@NiekkieNick Wobbling at higher speed, lack of torque at low rpm, mpg not great, some corrosion issues.

[@Ducatijay72]

Those yam calipers need brembo road and race pads, makes a massive difference with nothing else done, I had the 09 and 10 and it really helps, I've got a xr now with brembo and if you swop the pads the yam calipers are v close for normal riding, great review Scott 😃

[@red.riot.2280]

In this category. A built in GPS needs to become the standard. I hope Yamaha makes a tracer 10. Better dash. More power.

[@roadwarrior8560]

why do you need a built in gps? all this bullshit people think they need, use your brain or just get a taxi.

[@SsiolisP]

Scott, I see you finally have received the engine-guard (looks more like some sort of splash-guard, please do elaborate). How long did it take? As for the current comparison, hands down Tracer 9 GT. I could live without the TFT connectivity gadgetry which seems to be the only plus on the XR. Scenic views are on the top of my visual priority rather than a fancy TFT, or a mustached scuba mask.

[@EpicTyme]

Really enjoy your videos Scott, I really appreciate your unbiased, honest approach also. Yes it's opinion based but it still gives people like myself a good starting point around making a decision.

[@dietrichFett]

Thanks for the good comparison. I have the XR since 2 years. Concerning the suspension I updated now to the progressive suspension. It's awesome now. I am feeling more confident as before. I do not remark a problem with the rear brake. But I had already to clean the pistons of the front brake and I must still clean the rear brake. Maybe than the brake works better. The sound of the tracer is much better than than XR. But the engine has good performances and I even can cruse with city speed in 5.th gear. Thanks again for your interesting video.

[@MoeLenjailleur]

Hey there, nice review. I have the same bike but 2021 with one screen. Do you think that it is worth it to take this new model 2022 ? Or is they’re the same ? Thanks in advance for you answer. Good day

[@NothingToProve]

Thank you. Na, to me, it wouldn't be worth it to upgrade yet. Wait a few years get your R.O.I. in the current bike 😁👍

[@Fernando90054]

Thank you once more, Scott, for your honest opinion and I agree with it. The Tracer GT has that pleasant CP3 engine which is almost addicting and a very smooth and precise gear box - The quick shifter works superbly but in terms of technology concerning the tft screen and the way information is displayed the XR takes the Lead , no doubt about it. The looks, I prefer the German machine too but it is subjective 😉

[@theheroblob5036]

Nice real world review... thanks. I'd take the Yam. The fundamentals are better than the XR... engine, chassis, suspension and quickshifter. 👍🏻

[@Harune108]

its already updated, tracer 9 gt+ is there already.

[@bsalvis]

That instrument "cluster _ "? no pun intended :) Nice review as always Scott.

[@ronnybee9920]

Been waiting for this video for a while. Haven't ridden the bmw, but I own a 2019 Tracer 900 GT. I don't have the split tft thank goodness (they shouldnt have changed it). I agree with your pet peeves on the controls. I'd love to have some of the improvements for the 2021 tracer, but see no need to trade up. I'm going to guess that the Yamaha would win out on maintenance interval and ovedall cost of ownership. Great review.

[@blockchainshark1392]

Yep I agree. That new split screen they put in the 2021 9 ruined a great machine. I don't know what they were thinking. It's a such a great bike except for the display

[@alexmorgan3435]

@@blockchainshark1392 And brakes.

[@hezrimustapha6906]

Yes good point on the maintenance cost. Over time, you'd pay quite a bit more for BMW.

[@TheAskme32]

@@alexmorgan3435 brakes are better than the small XR. Actually everything is better compare to XR except the display and the windshield. My opinion, if you look for bmw you will have to go for the big XR, otherwise it is not worth it.

[@stonesie81]

My "Old" MT-10 had a powerful front brake but the feel was very wooden, no feedback through the lever at all. All I did to fix it was fit some SBS-HS brake pads to the front, problem solved for very little money. Yamaha seem to like fitting pads which are very kind to the discs and last forever but I'm willing to trade some pad life for feel and stopping power.

[@NothingToProve]

Yea, my thoughts too but once I change out the brake pads, then I still have that scuba mask looking at me all the time...sigh.

[@RunningRoger1]

Totally agree with you, display and controls are way better on the BMW. For me the engine and semi-active fork and suspension were more important. Also a plus on the BMW would be the emergency call system (hope it's never needed). I myself decided for the Yamaha (didn't actually ride the XR) because of the of the reasons stated before and being about 2k Swiss francs cheaper in Switzerland but would love to see the display, connectivity (also for navigation) and controls of the BMW on the Yamaha. Think their both fantastic bikes and it was a very hard decision.

[@edsyphan3425]

After many expensive failures on a 1200RT, I swore it was my last BMW. Now here I am looking at Tracer vs. XR rcomparo. At 70 yrs old, I must be a slow learner.

[@andy42x]

What year 1200? Have the bmw bikes improved over time?

[@edsyphan3425]

@@andy42x I had a 2009. Really nice bike, but there was a very dangerous problem with fuel fittings failing and leaking gas directly onto the header. It was a known problem for years and BMW did nothing for out of warranty owners. Until recent lawsuits caused them to have a change of heart. The latest things showing up are the plastic cable to throttle plate attachment failing without warning. The repair is approx $1200 each. These things along with the final drive failures have taken a great long distance touring machine and turned it to a machine I don't trust anymore. The new water cooled bikes are fantastic ,but how will the hold up overtime? I'm switching back to the Yamahas I grew up on.

[@markheinig]

For anybody who assumes the Yamaha would have lower maintenance costs, I would point out that in the US Yamaha specifies a 4,000 service interval (excluding valves). If you're going to put miles on this bike, servicing will happen more frequently than most (all?) BMWs so over time the total costs will probably be quite close. You'll also enjoy the hassle of more frequent servicing so you're costs will be higher in terms of your time. That's just considering maintenance costs. Costs in time and money of ride-ending reliability issues will most likely favor the Yamaha.

[@bigred8438]

Thanks for your informative vide comparison. I can see where your inside seam of your jeans meet, when you are standing behind it. That means almost flat footed when stopped? Did you say how heavy it was and where the centre of gravity is?

[@ADSCoachSimonB2112]

I going to throw a wrench in, I had a friend go overseas on vacation and I had his husky 701 SM, for about 3 months he has a new seat, Dunlop mutant tyres and a factory windshield, a full factory complete sports exhaust system. I wasn’t expecting to like it so much, the only downside is you can’t take a passenger or the luggage is limited. Hope that you test it out at some point thanks

[@tripjj8662]

I’d buy the Yamaha for the dashboard alone, huge 80s throwback right there

[@arnohag1]

Now that you mentioned about the dash, now I can not unsee it either. Great review.

[@jerrywu6734]

I'm wondering if any after-market can come up with magnifier installable right on top of the TFT to make the readings bigger, it will sell very well along with the new Tracer.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

Great review. I feel that without exhaust, they could have made the cases go much deeper in the bike, so overall narrower while retaining volume and capacity.

[@MaxPowerFilthcrud]

Hey Scott, ich hoffe ihr seid von den Regenfällen der letzten Tage verschont geblieben und dass es auch Uli gut geht! Danke für dein Review! Super Einblicke in beide Maschinen :-)

[@rideswithhoover9789]

The Tracer is a lot more bike for your money in standard form then the bema

[@zero11010]

Then refers to time. Than is used for comparison. If you learn the difference then you will sound better than people who don’t know elementary school English.

[@robinroma6285]

Everyone loves triples... But twins are a joy to me

[@johnnysvideos1]

This may sound like a weird comment, but I've owned a 2015 Yamaha Viper snowmobile and this 900 triple motor sounds almost exactly the same and I'm guessing is very close cousin to the 1049cc in the snowmobile. That triple never gets old ... that sound never gets old... just my thoughts

[@NothingToProve]

Yep, that's the triple. Very similar to the Triumph triple sound too, that they've been making since 1993. I don't know how long Yamaha has been making triples, do you? But that is a characteristic sound of most triples because of the firing order just to name one.

[@marceldehaan4524]

Thanx, I like both bikes. I have the same thoughts as you. I hope that the BMW fits for my lenght 2.02 meters. We will see.

[@NothingToProve]

You'll need the high seat option on the BMW, you won't fit on the Tracer...at least I was kind of cramped and you are a lot taller than me. 👍😁

[@acherouvis]

I wish there was an option to upgrade the dual screen TFP.

[@larryvanputten4048]

Nice story, Scott! What is it with Yamaha that they always are too late with sensible innovations like TFT- screens, brakes, suspensions etc.? Same story with Honda. Always too small, too difficult to read, etc? In a technical, innovational sense, BMW rules the waves! (Okay, Ducati, KTM and Triumph are keeping up)

[@marcelcoenen1437]

Very well made comparison, Scott. The GT isn‘t mothers‘ beauty indeed, and the XR‘s connectivity and quality feeling compensate the obviously excellent powertrain of the GT. By the way: It‘s always hilarious when you mention „I don‘t know if I like this or that“. You are allowed to say you prefer something else. Go on wirh testing and comparing!

[@thurney4343]

That there is a scuba mask! So far I can't disagree with your assessment of the two bikes. For the money you spend on the BMW, it should be near perfect. In other words, a more comfortable seat, bigger gas tank, more responsive rear brake and better wind protection. That sounds like a lot of little gripes, but they do add up. However, all that being said, I still love my BMW and would enjoy either bike. It's never perfect, but we can still strive for perfection. Nice and honest review!

[@ulysse892]

I tried it yesterday and I could not read properly the TFT rpm bar and I had my glasses on !!!

[@DJDarkrobe]

Thanks for another honest review Scott! Hope you're safe from all that flooding there!

[@renault_megane]

For display, you can buy GT+🙃Greetings from Poland😉

[@edcullen1852]

Hi Scott, in Australia our specs for the Tracer 9 GT say 19lt Tank

[@NothingToProve]

Yea, I wonder why they have a different tank size there? Europe and U.S. say 18. Maybe cause you Aussie guys drink more beer so you can go longer in the saddle! LOL!

[@edcullen1852]

@@NothingToProve Direct from Yamaha website quote “New fuelling system increased 350 km plus range with stronger performance” “Another important change for 2021 is the Tracer 9 GT’s all new fuel delivery system that features fuel injectors mounted to the throttle valve side - whereas they were previously mounted directly to the cylinder head. Together with the use of new lightweight engine internals, the new fuelling design increases combustion efficiency and helps to achieve a notable 9% increase in fuel economy, giving the Sport Touring an extended range of 350km+ from its 19 litre fuel tank, without adding additional weight by running a bigger fuel tank”

[@edcullen1852]

It’s a mystery Scott everywhere you look in Australia it tells you new 19lt fuel tank, every site with specs tells you 19lt … it is hotter here & we do drink more beer & it’s handy finding a gum tree out in the middle of nowhere to relieve ones self 😉 & yes good to have that extra litre of fuel to make it to the next fuel stop

[@molward]

Another great review! I tried F900XR last year and it didn’t steal my heart. I wanted to test-ride 9GT but I couldn’t force myself not to look at the TFT and eventually gave up the idea…

[@constantinosschinas4503]

2024 GT+ (only the +) has a brand new, 7inch TFT with smartphone connectivity. Hope they add it as a standard in lower versions, someday...

[@molward]

Thx:) Yeap, you are right but I have already ordered other bike.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

@@molward Nice! Which one?

[@molward]

@@constantinosschinas4503 I have tested more than 10 different bikes, including 6 BMWs, 2 Ducatis, 2 Hondas, Norden 901 and 3 Triumphs. Finally, I have ordered Triumph Tiger Rally Pro 2024 - it checked ✅ basically all my boxes 😉

[@molward]

@@constantinosschinas4503 I can’t see my reply so I will write again. I have ordered Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro 2024, after having tested more than 10 different bikes.

[@mldiode]

What about Maintence intervals and general cost of ownership? I had a 2015 FJ09 (Tracer in Europe at the time) crazy fast and fun. I put over 33,000 miles on her. Love it! Downside; the stock seat was horrible! Went with a Corbin. Looked great but my butt doesn’t have eyes and went though two types of foam and ultimately gave up on Corbin. Then I found a private seat guy who I shipped my stock seat to and he made a great seat from it. My butt was happy. I miss that bike but I knew it was time to say goodbye because I was getting way overconfident on her and I’m no spring chicken so sold her and bought my first in fifty plus yrs. of riding, a Harley. Like the Harley but I don’t get the thrill of the FJ09. That triple is sweet!!! Now with SO much improvements to the newest version I’m very tempted to go back to one. I see your point on the tiny split screen and old guys like me will have an issue with seeing stuff on it. The solution for me would be to pull over and adjust as needed but I don’t see me squinting and riding as it’s too distracting for safety. Still I love the bike.

[@Ole.Schultz]

Great review. I tested the Tracer 9 GT and agree on the front brake and dashboard layout. It is a dealbreaker, so i bought a BMW R1250GS two month ago.

[@jonno94]

The GS is a totally different price point though, i own a Tracer 900 and i would choose a GS all day long if it was the same price as my Tracer.

[@Ole.Schultz]

@@jonno94 I know. The GS is my dream bike, so i bought it :-)

[@jonno94]

@@Ole.Schultz Good choice 👍

[@yan-jk1ti]

And the ticking noise in the left cilinder from the 1250 gs is not bothering you?and the noise from the front tyre?I was very dissapointed with the 1250gs,sold it after 6 months..

[@Ole.Schultz]

@@yan-jk1ti No ticking or tyre noise from mine. I have a 2020 model. Front tyre noise can happen on many bikes, if so change to another model/brand.

[@racerdaveracerdave]

The dash designers need to be banished to designing dashes in the YZ line

[@Thorsten_Kueppers]

IMHO, Yamaha is missing a "red line" within its bike designs in general. Tracer 700 for example looks really nice at the front and the R1 ist still beautiful! But most of the current models are at least "strange" (MT09, MT07, XSRs,) or really ugly (MT-10), although all of them are really good bikes.

[@larryvanputten4048]

@@Thorsten_Kueppers Not to mention the ugliest of them all, the alien Niken!

[@Thorsten_Kueppers]

@@larryvanputten4048 I've almost forgotten about that ugly thing. Now it's back again, thanks man! :-D :-D

[@razorsharp9850]

They need to be banished for designing anything ever, period

[@sergiuulici3908]

thank you for your honest opinion. i just ordered my BMW xr900 black 2022 edition, 2 days ago. the bad thing i have to wait 6 months to get it because of the pandemic situation in spain. anyway just matter of time to see if i made the right decision . i was between yamaha tracer 9vs tiger 900 vs xr 900. the winner was decided by price,(13.300 all accesories and package) looks, and ofcourse the LOW suspension which alowed me to flat foot at 78 cm instead of 82.5 on the standard. for me, xr900 is a winner here. and dont forget, you get a BMW. premium in every way

[@NothingToProve]

:) Thank you. You'll love it and won't regret it, at least I don't. ride safe, Scott

[@sergiuulici3908]

@@NothingToProve thank you scott! would you say xr900 is better choice than tracer9? ive already bought the bmw xr 900 just asking because i read so many sites that says yamaha is better,, dont know why . of course the engine is amazing, but i dont think that the 900cc of the bmw si bad.

[@NothingToProve]

@@sergiuulici3908 Considering the bike as a whole, taking into account everything the XR is a better all-round bike. Other wise I wouldn't have bought one 😁 Yes, the motor is better on the Tracer but the motor is even better on the Tiger 900GT than the Tracer & the Tiger has the best suspension too. It really comes down to what one prioritizes on a bike, I look at the whole and not just one thing and that is where the XR beats both other bikes. take care, Scott

[@sergiuulici3908]

@@NothingToProve Hi! So are you saying that Tiger 900gt IS the BEST of 3? ....It has 93 HP and wayy more expensive here in Spain. Same tecnology on the BMW cost me 13.300€. Instead of 16.400€ the Tiger. Now i dont know what to do. Even tho Tiger IS better i think i never go offroad. Only go to work and some twisties. I Guess the BMW is more than enough for me.thanks

[@ioandragulescu6063]

I had one as a loaner bike and before taking it back I washed it. Once those TFT's get droplets of water on them, you can't see feeces on them. Not even the speed, which is the biggest number there. Now imagine you get caught by rain ....Other than that, the wierdly arranged buttons and the uncomfortable ergonomics (but that may be just for my body ) it's an amazing bike.

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

how is the quick shifter different from the XR's. ? other than rev'ing position. Nice sound; better seats. Dual displays gives ya more to look at ; i'd guess

[@egiltilao315]

The triple,no doubt! Engine scream sound adds more factor.

[@jerzygroclinek5066]

Yamaha reports that the load capacity of this motorcycle is 193 kg. So if you take into account the weight of two people + the weight of the trunks - there is almost no more space for any cargo. besides, the small ground clearance of only 135 mm is worrying. Chassis may rub against asphalt

[@michaelkuhn7510]

I wonder if the MT dash would bolt on and connect to this GT

[@cod4Anubis]

Will be awsome put the cp3 engine in the bmw. Have you ever thought about changing the forks of the bmw? For less than 600€ can buy an Andreani kit.

[@michaels7499]

What were your complaints about the Tracer? I was looking into buying 2022 model as second bike but seeing terrible complaints about the split TFT display. Many reviews say in the sun it is hard to see because of glare and words too small. They supposedly upgraded the display in 2023 and its bigger now.

[@petewebb6952]

#5 “Looks” my partner just also commented that the F900XR is much prettier. Seriously though those roads you ride look so smooth that any bike is going to seems good. On the tricky narrow lanes and various busy roads in south west England the F900XR is a great bike. (My partner said the pillion on the F900XR is much better than the Tiger 900 GT too.) Sure, there are better bikes for different roads (horses for courses), but I can recommend the XR as a good all-rounder. Cheers and thanks from the UK.

[@petewebb6952]

@Paul B - if by “agricultural, you mean combine harvester or tractor, then no I don’t find it agricultural. It’s a twin so I expect a bit of character. How long have you been riding a XR? It’s a brilliant bike for me, so tend to look at all it’s many advantages. I agree about having to get used to the foot brake. I’ve had many bikes, Triumph, BMW, Kawasaki, Honda & Suzuki. I no longer look for the perfect bike, only what suits me at the time. Cheers.

[@ironmaiden8625]

I've got a 2020 Tracer 900GT, and I absolutely love it. I'm glad they didn't put the split screen on until 2021, but I wish the key access on mine was like the 2021....

[@TheAskme32]

what is the difference on the key access?

[@ironmaiden8625]

@@TheAskme32 The key on the 2020 Tracer is wedged between the handle bars and the display. I have small hands, and it’s a pain to reach into the small area. They moved it on the 2021. Much more ergonomic

[@TheAskme32]

@@ironmaiden8625 yes you right, now i remembered. In the new tracer it is behind the handle bars with some nice plastic cover around the metal parts for protection.

[@ledjonkotsiai435]

Great comparison. Is there a 2021 F900XR version?

[@chrishart8548]

I'm hoping a 2021 f900xr gets the same rear light/ indicators the the r1250gs and s1000xr now have. And loose the crappy afterthought tail light

[@_s_a_]

great review - both looks and delivery, smooth and precise narration, all the way

[@NothingToProve]

Much appreciated!

[@muratkarakol8140]

i, mate. Do you have difficulty reading the gauges during the day, especially in sunny weather?

[@conguero7264]

Another good review,it helps me a lot to choose my next bike, and I always like your funny comments.

[@NothingToProve]

Thanks! 👍

[@sunrisejak2709]

You refer to "active suspension". Do you mean electronically adjustable to various settings or the suspension changes its damping according to road conditions reacting in milliseconds etc? These are two very different things.

[@NothingToProve]

Yes, yes and no. There are just two pre-set settings for the Electronically Controled Suspension, no user defined 🙁 I've copied from Yamaha.com for your reading pleasure 😁: KYB Electronically Controlled Suspension Jointly developed with KYB to deliver both sporty performance and a comfortable ride, the TRACER 9 GT features an electronically controlled suspension. The suspension provides optimum damping force that is based on real-time running conditions for great riding comfort and feel from the road. Based on input from the 6-axis Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU), the Engine Control Unit (ECU) and the Hydraulic Unit (HU), the Suspension Control Unit (SCU) calculates the optimum settings for suspension damping. The damping adjustment mechanism is solenoid-driven which enables changes to the damping force to be reflected quickly, and big damping force changes are possible. This suspension system generates steady damping force even when the suspension piston is moving slower, which contributes to stabilizing the motorcycle’s attitude when starting from a stop as well as stabilizing the chassis attitude when accelerating, braking and cornering. The electronically controlled system controls the rebound and compression damping for the front fork and rebound damping for the rear shock.

[@sunrisejak2709]

@@NothingToProve Thanks Buddy! 🙂 Your taking the time to respond and clarify is truly appreciated. (I have an F900XR) It's a beautiful day here in Thailand and yes I'm out on two wheels! ☺️

[@chuckdyer]

For 2023, Yamaha has fixed many of the complaints people have the 2021/22 model. The new bike will have a large single TFT display, the windshield is improved, and adaptive cruise control.

[@NothingToProve]

Thank you for the info!!!

[@ulysse892]

nope for the TFT display

[@ewooll]

I test rode a 2019 MT-09, and thought it was the bike of the future - so refined. But, as an SV650 owner, i would possibly go for the XR as it has the thump and rumble of a twin. This for me is what motorcycling pleasure is about. Great review, thanks.

[@johannesmaas4080]

the CP3 is a real beast... had the MT09 RN69 and that thing rips your arms off

[@alithejumbo]

I would go with this over the XR (BMW R750GS owner here).

[@zonkex]

Great review and comparison, as always! So... t9 gt or the tiger 900 gt pro for highway trips (engine potential, comfort, air buffeting etc)?

[@NothingToProve]

I'd probably take the Tiger in that comparison, just better cockpit, TFT and all around electronics with connectivity. Powertrain is where I'd give the Tiger the advantage but just ever so slightly over the Tracer...they are really close now with what Yamaha did with this gen. Oh and sound of the Tiger is better, imho.

[@fallenwout]

Get a givi screen for the tiger 900gt and you can ride with your helmet open. Like sitting in a car, not buffeting at all.

[@cervinkapav]

I tried both Tiger and Tracer. Tracer was a winner,no doubt. Engine sound,torque,no vibrations on the foot stands arise from Tiger . 17"wheels,better performance, onroad characteristics.

[@zonkex]

@@cervinkapav Nice to hear.. what about seat/suspension comfort and wind buffeting?

[@cervinkapav]

@@zonkex @zonkeX I have comfy heated seat,but still , it could be softer. Windshield is pretty good for my height 174, no turbulence in upper position. Suspension is just perfect. Nothing to say. The bike is all over very good package for the money. Powerful and great for touring.

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

9GT boxes are not std i Asia. pay extra . How does the leg room compare to stretch out ? 6' tall might be a little more crunched on the 9 GT.

[@andersforslund633]

Said it before. I very much like your reviews. Thanks! If you bring the Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro into the equation, where would it end up compared to the other two?

[@petrusjunior7617]

Great review. I'm coming from a BMW F750 and you helped me to decide between Tracer and Tiger. About the screen look, it doesn't bother me and is not as bad as I was thinking. After about 2.000 km (about 1250 miles) I'm really loving the bike, except the seat which is too firm... Only miss 2 things from bmw: fuel consumption and front whell (19''). Btw, mine is a normal version. Added quickshift (love it), heated grips and topcase. The more I ride it, the more I like it!!!

[@ed.t.hansen6499]

Tiger gt pro, anyday

[@acherouvis]

The screen is horrible, that is the common complaint.

[@paulblythe5899]

I've not owned a motorcycle for over ten years, but I am looking to get another now I can afford a second vehicle... On the Yamaha, apart from the twin screen's physical size, it looks like they could do with a good anti-glare coating.

[@martinhughes9769]

I don't like the clocks number size would be a problem for me , I've a 2017 kawasaki SX 1000 with 13000 miles on the clock many of the numbers are way too small on the kawasaki, love the bike that's one of the reasons I've not wanted to replace it with something newer ,

[@andycrawley8276]

Great review my friend....I love your opinion and camera work.

[@guillemdepabloruf2711]

Hi, i'm looking for buy my new bike and i m not sure if i take the tracer gt or a bmw r1250rs.. i m 30 and my previous bike it's an africa twin 2019, i ride almost always whit my girfriend and i like to make 400 kms per day.. what you think its a better choise?

[@peterkirby3052]

Well done, you have looked at the exact two bikes I have been interested in buying. Maybe the 1200RS gets the extras you were stating (plus extra weight) but it comes at a price (quite a big jump at that) even though you do get upgraded in suspension, cam shaft and shaft driven etc. However, they are completely different bikes so what do I know. I agree with you, I can't seem to find the 'perfect' mid-range all-rounder, I have a BMW F800GT with 120,000km. Would love your opinion on the 2021 Ducati Supersport 950S. You are by far an away the best bike reviewer on the tube with your comparsions and opinions so thanks so much for that.

[@paulknerr9511]

Excellent review. I own a 2020 Tracer 900 GT. Single 6" TFT is very readable, without reading glasses. And no eyebrow! What were they thinking with 2 TFTs???

[@TheAskme32]

silly design but everything else is way better on the 2021 tracer.

[@GP-id4de]

For me, if i could take the TFT out from the XR and put it on the T9, there will be no camparison. BTW i ordered the T9 2 months ago and there are no news yet from the dealer, not even a ETA.

[@Victor-fg1ky]

The TFT screen for this bike is so annoying. I can't understand why there wasn't any connectivity with mobile devices. It would have made so much sense if the right screen side was set up for connectivity possibly showing Google maps if possible. That would have really made it so cool. Moreso, 2021 models of most bikes are integrating mobile connectivity. Besides that, I love everything else about this bike

[@wombal177jim]

Totally agree about brakes just one thing I up graded the brake lines to stainless steal just that bit more bite 👍🏻

[@lrdc38]

Great video and YT channel, thanks ! Did you have the chance to compare F900XR / Tracer 9 GT with the Multistrada 950S ?

[@cengizkurban]

I still have my F900XR and this bike very attractive to me after seeing this videos. I'm in love with the electronics of BMW but there are some adventure feeling is missing. What do you think?

[@ilanfriedman114]

Great video! Loved the point by point comparison between the bikes. What helmet were you wearing going 190???? The sound quality of your mic was fantastic!!

[@NothingToProve]

Thank you. It's a Schuberth R2, it's the quietest "race" helmet on the market. They also make the quietest helmet on the market, C4, this is their third quietest helmet, the S2 is their second, I have the S2 also but use the R2 for reviews. Going to get the C4 probably over the winter. take care, Scott

[@humanfirst11]

What a well rounded review! Subscribed.

[@iJohnnyChristmas]

I think the Tracer 9 looks great!! I'm on the market for a new bike and have been considering this (base version), the Tracer 7 and the Tiger Sport 660. The T9 would cost me 3k more than the TS660, but comes with €1000 free accessories (as does the T7 which is €2.5k cheaper). The Tiger comes with panniers included. I'm a new rider, just passed my test and only have 1000km on a '09 Bandit 650S and prior to that a 1500km trip on a Honda XR150L (through rural Vietnam over two weeks). I'm 187cm, 100kg, with 32' inseam. I'm looking for something to use for weekend fun rides, hopefully some multi day tours and eventually 2-up riding once I gain more experience (and my gf comes around to the idea). Hoping to do a Europe tour next summer. What do you think would suit me best and is best bang for the buck? Hesitant to drop all my savings for the T9 but it does seem like something I could keep for years...im test riding the TS660 this weekend curious if it will be too cramped.

[@ray8328]

Scott, how would you compare the Triumph 900 GT Pro with both the XR and Tracer 9? I have a BMW F850GS, and the quick shifter is so outdated (not smooth unless riding it hard) compared to the Triumph and Tracer.