2021 Yamaha YZ450F vs Kawasaki KX450 Shootout - Motocross Action Magazine

[@ridingdeep8530]

I am very happy with my YZ450, the ability to change maps is awesome. If you don't like the power delivery, no problem, change it. I found it interesting that they didn't mention that easily changed mapping more than once or twice, you can easily get more bottom end grunt if you want it. I also appreciate my engine's longevity, the KX's are sweet but I wouldn't trade it for my YZ's reliability while racing GP's and desert. Also being a taller guy I appreciate the physical size of the YZ, big and tall can be a good thing.

[@tomnekuda3818]

For years I waa always on the YZ.......but the more I ride green the better I like it. Maybe I'm changing more than the bikes are......I dunno what I'm gonna be when I grow up; I'm only 73.

[@stevestiffler9120]

Be a Mo'cross rider like me and live the dream my friend

[@davidklimmek3192]

Kawasaki for life dude! Get a new one every 6mos ! Enjoy life . God bless!

[@adribakse]

Kawasaki kx450f kzbin.info/www/bejne/npeXk515nr2ebJY

[@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063]

Wheelchair with a yamaha R1 engine in it , should give you some excitement in your life considering you are only 73

[@tomnekuda3818]

@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 Remember this remark when you're 73..........

[@aeror115]

After getting comfortable with the 2020 kx250... my next dirt bike is gonna be a KX450 cheers 🤘

[@davidklimmek3192]

Me too brother next wk! - Ohio 🇺🇸

[@ckirk1597]

I did the same.... My opinion, I would just stay with the 250. The 450 is a lot of power and hard to ride. I have more fun on the 250. But that’s just me

[@mxr7586]

Sorry but the Yamaha has more power everywhere when you ride them the dyno isn’t pushing air into the motor like when you ride. My friends last year model Kawasaki is still under power compared to my Yamaha and he has put aftermarket exhaust and some other things. Then tore it down to do motor work on it. Put a High compression piston after only 19 hours the cylinder had piston slap marks. Also I’ve had both bikes and you guys saying the Yamaha feels heavy your crazy and it also turns on a dime . The motors on the Yamaha last way longer than any bike period. The valves last also longer than other bikes too. My sons bike has a 150hrs and valves were still in spec and have never been shimmed. I have also worked on other with over a 100hrs. The Honda I had lucky if it got to 50hrs. 242.9 Kawasaki and 245lbs Yamaha so really not much difference. Also ppl that have rode my Yamaha didn’t say the crazy crap you guys said. They love how great it turns in ruts or even on flat. And it’s amazing it the mud. I’ve had all the bikes and you guys seem pretty one sided. Also measure the radiators across there isn’t much difference in width between the bikes. I did that when I had my Kawasaki and Yamaha. I chose Yamaha cause it dose everything really good and you don’t need aftermarket exhaust. The motor is really strong and you can tune it to an arm jerking machine or mellow it out and it last a long time.

[@Anii6969]

Let them know! But KTM / Husky is way more durable then any bike on the market. My friend has a KTM 250 and has 300 + hours on it with only 1 top end change ever. Still going strong. Very hard to beat the Aussie bikes.

[@mxr7586]

Anakin Skywalker idk but all my Friends that went to KTM they all had problems with them so they got rid of them and got Different manufacture

[@ironmonkey1512]

@@mxr7586 all KTM riders do is stand around and talk about that one time long ago their suspension worked right

[@mxr7586]

iron monkey that’s funny cause I rode one and it was horrible. Plus the guy I just met and rode with last week we did some laps together and came back to rest a bit. Then when he went to start his KTM 2019 it didn’t sound good at all! Real bad tick sound. And he barely has any hours on it. He shut it off waited awhile then tried again and it seem to go away. Next day he decided to go race the thing and it shut off. They don’t last long when ridden hard and way to expensive to rebuild compared to any other bike.

[@lostinspace699]

Sorry the Kwaka Wins,,,

[@DanHovarter]

I'm a weekend warrior Durability is everything for me.

[@M6BrokeMe]

Who can really use a 450 engine at 9,000 rpm?

[@OklahomaHistoryLegends]

*Laughs in Travis Pastrana*

[@izacaqsha3480]

Maniac

[@localenterprisebroadcastin5971]

So moral of the story...but what’s cheaper ...they’re the same bike for anyone who isn’t a pro

[@jamesshaver7977]

I really like the way you broke theses down can u please do the same for all 👍🏁

[@bkwil6078]

Yamaha all day long

[@michaelryall6344]

I certainly don't find the YZ too wide, but maybe because I am a taller rider and find the narrow bikes harder to squeeze. Love the YZ and the KX.

[@lewdog8326]

Didn't know horsepower affected corner entrance.

[@terryslocum4163]

Lol the bottom end is 6-8k, I thought the bottom end was from 3-6.

[@pauloyoshizaki2103]

YAMAHA : YZ 450 F : 4 Tempos Top - Categoria : Moto - Cross : Parabéns !!!! Yamaha : Top : Moto - Cross ; Top - Categoria !!! ; Top : Yamaha : 😄😃😄😃😄😃💡💡💡🥇🥇🥇👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@cer7cer7]

I really enjoy all the shootouts but always look to you guys for the most accurate and definitive bike comparison for real world riding and racing. I've watched this shootout twice now and replayed various parts more times than that. Could you elaborate on the final comment(s) you make where you state - overall the MXA wrecking crew would rather ride the KX 450 but when lining up for a race we'd choose the YZF 450....- Are you saying (in stock forms) the the KX (in your test opinion) is best for fun riding vs the Yamaha is best for a serious racer ? Just want to be sure I understand this final point. Thanks for all your hard work that leads to excellent content for us fans/viewers. I always look forward to everything you guys produce.

[@gusgiesel]

I understood those statements to mean that the Kawasaki is more pleasurable to ride (choice for overall riding) but the Yamaha is faster (choice for racing).

[@kjc9trader491]

I'd love to see a head to head shootout with the 2021 Kawasaki KX450 and the 2021 KTM 450 SXF

[@motohunter2390]

Team green Kawasaki obviously

[@-liamrbgw]

Hell yeah!

[@bryanjohnson665]

Good video. But I think you can refrain from saying 2021 YZ 450f and 2021 KX 450 everytime.

[@JamesyMusial14]

An aftermarket seat does a lot for the YZ450F have a look at the CD-R Yamaha bikes in Australia it’s the first mod they do and they look so much more comfy

[@DD-gr9my]

Most of the champions is from green bike!

[@mattbrown3910]

Wet Weights are listed on MFC Websites as KX at 242.9lbs and YZ at 245lbs. Much closer in weight than the video says they are.

[@moto3moto419]

Usually full of shit this mob , so they can not get the weight correct ? Complicated thing for them to do , supply facts.

[@davenawahine4428]

Best thing mxa did was hire this guy to do the comparisons and shootouts.....Gota love the honesty👍 Details were well covered in all areas, chassis, handling, power, suspension, weight, Ergos... The pros and cons were a nice touch too! See swap, this is how it's done.

[@jeremyelford7926]

MXA is the least objective media outlet on these matters...100% loyal to the highest bidder...

[@HallowellsSpeedShop]

130lb rider here, I was leaning Yami for awhile, but after hearing the Kawi is better suited if you’re lighter, maybe it’s time I switch to green 🤔

[@jase1911]

Green or red is the only colors that I ride

[@SD-ir1vf]

I lost 30 pounds because of low carb diet I needed to go on. I like everything they said about the KX. And the KX finally switched from 4 to 5 gears. I got to make the switch from 2T TO 4T. Tomac won three championships in a row I on that bike.

[@holeshotinspectionllc2412]

@@SD-ir1vf 4-5 speed, I had an 09, 12, 17 all 5 speed transmissions...

[@adribakse]

Kawasaki kx450f kzbin.info/www/bejne/npeXk515nr2ebJY

[@obamavariant9128]

Holeshot Inspection LLC it was like in 06

[@2ss701]

YZ450F is the best

[@bikelifewiz8144]

I just finished riding my 2019 Yz450f with my buddy on his 2016 kx450f and we compared both bikes on the road being topped out and the yamaha is the one that pulls away on top end on low end they both put a great fight almost side to side but on top end the Yamaha over takes

[@jeanplug298]

I love this type of video i hope you’ll do it every year for this 2 bikes because every Yamaha rider is low key a kawasaki rider both bikes have the same fan base Thanks again ! I also love watching MXA shoot out videos in 4K keep em coming

[@borntwice4724]

Ok ok but was does buttery say about these two?

[@michaelgeary9461]

I think buttery mainly does stuff with swap moto but I could be wrong 😂

[@casestuart6711]

Buttery did the swap moto shootout but he used to ride kawi and was a bigger fan of them over the Yami’s

[@borntwice4724]

Michael Geary I think buttery does stuff mostly with the indica family 🤣

[@jakescott4800]

He shouldn’t be a test rider that’s for sure! 😂 I see him almost everyday at the track and it’s scary to watch sometimes

[@borntwice4724]

Jake Scott in a good way or bad?

[@andndmmcmnf1321]

I’ve never owned a dirt bike but I think I’d go for the Yamaha🔥

[@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063]

You would be making a wise decision 🇦🇺🤙🏼

[@chris-o2v9c]

Blue all day!all that power curve can easily be adjusted with your phone.not only that,the quality of yamaha is better in my opinion in every way.It will last longer ust look at bikes blowing up on KZbin and they are mostly green and red it seems.

[@jeremyelford7926]

Good decision...😊

[@roadsimresearch78]

Kawi's muffler is so big @1:20 you can fit all your setup notes on it. Haha!

[@jamietyler4099]

Both great bikes buy one and ride it. That said I love my kawi!!

[@markmagness3693]

The Yamaha is still sick tho👍

[@mxr7586]

Mark Magness the Yamaha is better period. The motor is better valves last way longer than any bike. And these idiots saying it’s way heavier need to look it up. It’s about 3 lbs wet weight difference. My friends rode my Yamaha and love it and said it turns and does everything they want it to. My last bike was a Kawasaki.

[@markmagness3693]

mxr I agree I just got a 19’ yz450f and before that a 2013 kx450f and the motor is far superior

[@markmagness3693]

mxr well everything is

[@mxr7586]

Mark Magness ya with that tuning app in Yamaha’s engineering you don’t have to buy any upgrades for the motor at all. My friends 2019 Kawasaki he did aftermarket exhaust and some tuning chip and still couldn’t pull my Yamaha. Then he tore the top end apart to put a high compression piston in it which cost money and on top of that he has to run expensive fuel.! Just to try to have the power mine does stock. And mine is 2016 lol.. I just rode a 2020 Yamaha 250f and that thing is amazing. I also know several factory team riders that are now with Honda that left star Yamaha and said the Yamaha is ridiculously better than when they finally rode the Honda teams bike. They said there definitely is a difference.

[@mehrdadrastegar2091]

No

[@2ss701]

The yz they said they rather race it and the kawi they rather ride it

[@mxr7586]

YAMI_BROTHAS ya it seems they contradict themselves. The Yamaha is only about 3 lbs heavier which isn’t much difference. Also how wide it is not much difference there either. Another shootout everyone talked highly about the Yamaha how it does everything. Most all of them picked the Yamaha but swap said he pick the Kawasaki cause his brother rode one but yet liked the Yamaha. This shootout they act like it don’t turn too heavy bs. Cause my friends say mine turns on a dime and they live it. Like the guy said they rather race the Yamaha! That means they feel they can win on it better than the Kawasaki.

[@spacejaime]

It's moto journalism code to be diplomatic to both brands.

[@ChrisGuthrie]

Plastics that dont crack and rollers that dont wear out after 2 hours.... really getting what you pay for for $9400 huh? Crazy

[@mildaudiophile3879]

Well put! I love shootouts. You guys should do truck shootouts. Best track/moto truck.

[@crashtest603]

Ford and Chevy need to bring back the El Camino and Ranchero, that would be a good shootout

[@dennismillus4581]

I can't wait to hear or read what you say between these two bikes. When you compare all the brands. Just to see how much you contradict your words in this video.

[@lawrencemacdonald9454]

Sweet bikes but my old cr 250 is my bike fun cheap and fast.

[@fishingwithtc3335]

Both are good, honda, kawi, Yamaha.

[@SD-ir1vf]

They aint joking bout the crappy plastic on the KX. My number plate ripped into 3 pieces in my truck, before I even rode the bike for the first time. And lots of people are saying how the roller and chain slider are total shit.

[@mx118racer]

I'm a Yamaha guy but since going backwards motor they have lost my heart for them . Still prefer 09 yz450f ,light small nimble . Just picked up a kawi see how they go . Let's hope Yamaha redesigns ergos and drops 5-6 pounds at least.

[@mxr7586]

mx118racer actually it’s not even 4lbs difference. The 16 Yamaha on up are better than your old one. I have had no problems with turning or anything. My friend has a newer Kawasaki and he rode mine and loves how the Yamaha turns also he said the motor is stronger than his. Also we were riding in the mud one day and I could under cut him in turns and handled better in the mud as well.

[@mx118racer]

@@mxr7586 Its prob not the weight . It's where the extra weight is and the fact the ergos dont help . I've owned 2010,2011 ,2014 ,2018 yz450f ( and 2017 ,2019 ktm 450sxf ) spend half a race season on em drag put the old 09 and post quicker lap times instantly . Our mx tracks are gnarly rough southwick/ ww ranch ( with poor prep schedules) . That's where the handling of the bike shines.

[@iloveyoualot4237]

mx118racer I feel like you’re just bashing bikes because you ride a suzuki and are lying

[@mxr7586]

mx118racer it’s weird the Yamaha 250f is almost the same and those are the bikes to beat. Even the 2 pro riders that raced them for star Yamaha went to Geico Honda and was saying the Yamaha has more power and handles really good and all around amazing bike. So I don’t think it’s how the motor is.

[@evodee3026]

yup i never like my 15 450. bike just feels fat and unbalanced.

[@OGPokey151]

I'm 6'2" 225lb rider. The Yamaha fits me perfect. I also love the mapping from your cell phone

[@Dirtbiker359]

Im the opposite it just feels off idk if i need bigger bars and riser or what

[@OGPokey151]

@@Dirtbiker359 run the bar mounts in the forward hole and they are also offset so I also like those rotated forward

[@TravNasty520]

I dont get why people hate on the YZ’s air filter design. I think it’s brilliant. It keeps it in the front part of the bike, high on the frame to get the cleanest air possible. With my YZ I have to clean the filter way less often than the traditional design because the traditional design is right near the rear tire, which kicks up a lot of dust and dirt!

[@chriscurbstompscm]

Dude that intro song was cool.

[@johnthomas6614]

Great Vid Josh. Well Said Facts Straight Up🏁

[@gusgiesel]

The Yamaha reverse engine is awesome and the power tuner allows for mapping to provide better low end like the Kawi. But I agree that the Yamaha airbox "in your face" is seriously noisy. They need to do something about this.

[@MatthewC137]

The reverse engine is awesome and also very reliable and the lightweight titanium valves help it to rev easily and reduce wear.

[@syndicatemotos7534]

Agreed I have a 2019 yz250f and it took me a while to be able to stay on the gas without thinking that I’m about to blow up the motor

[@peterga3658]

i like both a lot.. but Yamaha will be my first option always

[@benfarr6049]

I know everyone can't, but the only way to know is to ride one and how it fits you. I bought a yz off reviews getting back in the sport, after riding a friend's kx I sold it and bought the kawasaki, kx felt way better and inspired confidence

[@ZmannR2]

Just swapped my 2017 YZ450F for the 2019 KX450 and it’s night and day better than the Yamaha! I love it so much

[@Tibingi84]

what an awesome review. Thanks MXA

[@faisalallham353]

I hope if i succes i can buy zy 250 .amin

[@theshootindutchman]

Excellent shootout! You hit every single point that I would have wanted to hear about. I have owned and raised both the Yamahas and the Kawasakis over the years and you're exactly right about Yamaha being the more bulletproof of the two bikes! one thing that cannot be overlooked however, is the flickability of the Kawasaki because of how skinny it feels compared to the Yamaha period it cannot be overstated, that a wide bike simply does not feel flickable, and throwing whips on the Kawasaki is almost second nature 👍!

[@jeanplug298]

Hello i would like to know which one is better for a tall rider im 6’4 and i wanna buy one of these but i don’t know which one will suit me the most.

[@chazzgonzalez1356]

Baba Cora Sene the Yamaha will do you wonders with the ergos since it’s for a taller rider and has more power and better suspension

[@jeanplug298]

Chazz Gonzalez What about the height between the footpegs and the seat ? The transition from sitting to standing is ut hard for tall riders ?

[@theshootindutchman]

Baba I feel they were both about the same for a tall rider. I am 6' tall and had no problem with either bike. I feel bar height has a lot to do with comfort too.

[@ironmonkey1512]

@@jeanplug298 I don't know about the yamaha but I am same height the kawi has adjustable bars and footpegs for taller riders works for me

[@fullnoyz7670]

In aus the yzf is $13200 for the monster energy edition

[@sassafraswakeboyz4121]

Motocross action! !!!!! ROCKSSSSSS

[@kjc9trader491]

9:36 - Under Durability - What does "Blinks" mean??

[@yoboiham2121]

It has more hiccups aka little tiny problems

[@farmer3242]

Lunches its motor, (grenades)

[@adribakse]

Kawasaki kx450f kzbin.info/www/bejne/npeXk515nr2ebJY

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

I am not spending any money & sticking with my 500s. Yes, I have ridden a few 450s, and aside from nice suspension right off the bat, the *feel* slow, top-heavy and are about as exciting as watching the dryer at a laundromat. No drama, not hit, no arm-wrenching torque. Yes, my CR is old. But it has an exciting engine with power that has to be approached with respect, but if you have the discipline, you are untouchable. New bike suspension is very good, but not enough to justify it over my revalved stock stuff. It still turns, brakes and accelerates just as good as anything else. Truth be told, most bikes have exceeded their riders capabilities since the early '90s and that hasnt changed.

[@swemx7403]

Yamaha all the way.

[@inspectorluv]

the message is mixed here...you seem to want to say the YZ is the winner, yet cant overlook what makes the KX better. I have 2019 KX and my buddy has the 2020 YZ....not sure it is similar to this, but on the track, where turning and pulling out of corners matters, the KX clearly beats the YZ....we both agree without debate, so I dont see how you guys would rather race the YZ if you have to be pegged to get power....I suppose riding style is a big part of all of that.

[@mxr7586]

inspectorluv my friends and I are A class riders and I personally have a 16 yz450 Yamaha that I set up and my one friend has the 19 Kawasaki 450. Mine turns better than his in all conditions especially mud. I also tuned mine to one of the TP maps. I can be on hard pack as well and it stays planted. I also put a Hoosier tire up front so he thought that’s why my bike was better so he bought one to. Other shootouts said the yz turns just fine and does everything and of course the motor and suspension as well. I also had a Kawasaki. We also rode the new Yamaha and absolutely loved it. I also got to ride a new 2020 yz250f and that thing is unreal for a 250f. So I guess I have my bike setup great then cause other ppl have rode it and loved it so idk.

[@inspectorluv]

@@mxr7586 - I think it comes down to how you ride probably. I prefer the lower to mid so the KX is just right, but I can imagine if you prefer the higher end it would not. As I got older I have been less aggressive, haha, my old KX 250 2 stroke doesn't even get started anymore. I have a Yamaha 250 Dual sport and it is a great bike, my 1st bike ever was a Yammy 80cc.....I will ride any of them...even a Honda if I am desperate, haha.

[@davidklimmek3192]

And my $$ goes.......'21 Kawasaki 450F ! Thanks MXA.

[@danielfranciscocastellanos6290]

Bellas motocicletas, ambas espectaculares, tremendas máquinas. 🏍️🏍️🏍️

[@mxracer158]

Great comparison. I appreciated the effort to break it down pro and con along with we'd ride this one but race that one.

[@diemx2]

KX win?

[@dalehicks6112]

Excellent review! I would have liked to hear what the reliability issues are on the KX450.

[@motomania1287]

I own a 19 and have had zero issues so far

[@shawntheo1603]

@@motomania1287 how many hours on it? also is the rear brake as bad as some say?

[@motomania1287]

Shawn Theo probably around 50 hours or so. My hour meter isn’t currently working :). I think the rear brake thing is way overblown. I have no problems with it. I’ve ridden a 19 yz 450 too. Great bike. Great motor and suspension. Feels heavier and less nimble than the kx. The kx has a very light nimble feeling and the motor character is part of that. Love the smooth easy to ride motor. A lot of harping on the soft fork too. For some people I think it’s perfect. But, if you are heavier and or faster it will need stiffer springs and maybe a bit higher oil level.

[@ironmonkey1512]

I have a 19 and had zero issues with it including the clutch, haven't had the clutch plate off yet.

[@motomania1287]

iron monkey same here. Stock clutch not even changed the plates yet. No complaints.

[@levijarman9959]

Now lets see if any of the bikes in the 2021 shootout can beat ktm and husky

[@youngman7655]

Lmao both the kawi and the Yamaha did kawi with 3 Yamaha with 2 ktm in third with 1.

[@youngman7655]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5SteoZpirJ-e7s

[@christopherholbird6100]

@@youngman7655 The 'this is the bike I normally ride so its the bike I choose ' shootout. Thats not a proper shootout. Swap moto always has the least relevant shootout. KTM IS #1

[@youngman7655]

Christopher Holbird aye my fav is also ktm I agree they’re the best but there so expensive so Ima have to stick with my 2010 kx250f for know.

[@adribakse]

Kawasaki kx450f kzbin.info/www/bejne/npeXk515nr2ebJY

[@muara8954]

Yamaha

[@weekendthrottles]

Kx450 💚

[@oldg7847]

Enjoyed the format Josh.. Always appreciate your insight... ✌ Old G

[@crk916]

Over/under on how many times they say KTM?

[@BassWhoopinFishingTeam]

#TeamGreen

[@carlosclass787]

2021 450 MXA Shootout? When??...

[@alexandrakingi8502]

Really enjoyed this!

[@S_l_f_m]

This is exactly the video that i was looking for!

[@evo5349]

Stop calling the YZ450F all the time keep it simple Yamaha and the Kawasaki we know what bikes are being tested and what year they are.

[@seyha4001]

Hello 💕

[@bosu1855]

How often is the valve clearance required for the kx450?

[@shelbysanders7840]

Every 15 hours but that’s being safe depending on how you ride it could go 50 hrs

[@DoArtTheMovement]

What does valve clearance mean and how do u adjust it

[@ZLEO00]

So no answer? Why make such a detailed video only to not crown a Winner…

[@recambiosmotoshop300]

KX 450💚

[@Dirtbiker359]

I have a 2022 yz450f love the power insane amounts of throttle respone on the aggressive engine tuning setting breath on it wrong and it wants tongo over backwards ahaha but! I do no feel comfortable on it yet ive only rode it a couple days so far but my 2009 kx450 felt right at home right away i might have to look into a newer kawi and im also 6'2

[@iroamroyalkhan1628]

YAMY ALL THE WAY

[@mehrdadrastegar2091]

کاوازاکی بهتره 😍 Kawasaki is best😍

[@virginiaballistics8330]

You can to send me one?

[@virginiaballistics8330]

Care^*

[@jetdr]

Friends never let Friends buy a Kawasaki!! cheap cheap, ride it and it quickly falls apart. you will see the rust appear on the forks, brake rotors and that nice shiny exhaust header in the first month of ownership.

[@RANGER_-pv7tv]

I like the yamaha 450 better

[@PESCAO_2.1]

Gift me

[@fuellerr]

In the late 80's KAW had bad plastic it's 2021 now and nothing has changed what a joke KAW

[@bobetts2748]

Kx for sure

[@thelamboshow8819]

Clean

[@vanessabooth3066]

I have a 2018 yz450f and a 2018 kx450f, sad to say, the kx is stronger and faster than the yz

[@aaroncrowden5529]

Rodonkulas revew. Ive seen others say the kx450 wins the shootout out of all the bikes.

[@franklinclinton5967]

Kawasaki all day

[@paulwood7798]

LOL

[@akraswiguna381]

Subtitle indonesia pleass

[@goldeneggs1352]

Kawasaki all day

[@jeremiahperez7972]

I like both but Kawasaki

[@d4ljosh859]

Ummm I’ll take the red 1

[@chris-o2v9c]

Yamaha all day!

[@RastaRider]

Honda!!

[@hondaalldayh.a.d8877]

All damn day!

[@sassafraswakeboyz4121]

Come on :)

[@popetin100]

Good video

[@buddywilson104]

Great shoot out. Go Green!

[@dawidszymczak3074]

Kawasaki 🤟💪💥

[@loadthebowl]

which bike throws the bigger rooster tail?

[@ironmonkey1512]

CR500

[@SebastianHernandez-uq3ut]

Yeah