2022 American Standard Homestead VorMax Tests

[@Gurith43]

I wish they made toilets that flushed good and weren’t plagued by restricting efficiency standards.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Exactly

[@Toilets_of_georgia_and_etc]

You know. For a 1 gallon toilet, this honestly did good compared to the other ones. The .8 gallon project source honestly. They need to make a flushometer variant out of that, it would be absolutely legendary

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

This would be really cool on flushometer

[@thesdf1234]

I agree. For a one gallon toilet it actually has decent power. But I would never put this in my home. Could you imagine hosting a large gathering and having 30+ people using this toilet one after another, putting large loads and lots of TP in there, etc etc A high quality plunger next to this toilet would be a must

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

That's why we need 3.5s back.

[@tvtuplumbing8078]

I love those cyclone jet toilets. One of my favorite types of new toilets. Also please do this toilet on a high tank as well!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

They are an interesting design, that's for sure. Setting one of these up on a high tank would be quite difficult though.

[@GodzillaPowerPuffFan]

How come the algorithm hid this from me for 3 weeks? You still make great videos OCC And a great performance test like always with your videos

[@taronjeroneharris1313]

American Standard needs to bring back their toilet designs from the 1960s through the 90s.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Exactly. The water saving stuff just doesn't cut it.

[@ToiletsofWNY]

No doubt why the Vormax toilets have failed and have been pulled off stores due to that dual flapper setup being a problem, as well as performance.. This was their flagship line that they basically compromised their Cadet and Champion lines to promote the Vormax... Kohler's Rev360 have been proven decent and best seller too!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

American Standard really dropped the ball on this design. Who wants to prime a toilet?

[@ToiletsofWNY]

That's why they failed and ended up being taken off from most retail like home depot.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

@@ToiletsofWNY I remember when they had the display models where you could open the lid and look at the flappers. That was cool but it's about as antiquated as putting two spuds on a commercial toilet.

[@TexanToilets]

I wish they kept the 1.6 gallon flush instead of this water saving garbage.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Same

[@jbsimmons54]

Never thought I'd see the day that a rimless Vormax type terlit would be a _Pants Wettah!_ on a standard tank!!! 🤣

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Same here. That was crazy.

[@Joshhhhh12345]

A lot of people say kohler is over engineered, but the two flappers on these is just plain stupid and pointless.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Exactly.

[@frozenpart]

Flush: A Washcloth: A+ Grocery Bag: A+ Washcloth & Grocery Bag: F Dish Towel: F Dry Bowl: A Clogged Siphon: *S+* Only Siphon: D- Dirt: C+ Grade: B- (2.76) Final Result And Decision: B- (Flush is a first for me so I give it some credit. this toilet has a lot of settings which is pretty cool. That clogged siphon was a beauty like it was a high tanker for sure! but for a 1-gallon toilet its actually pretty good, I wouldn't install in my home from a modern toilet that didn't do that well. High expectations for this toilet if it was a 1.28-gallon flusher!!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I don't like 1 gallon toilets

[@frozenpart]

@ why did they put in so much plastic for a toilet if they cared about the environment 😭

[@YourLocalSnag]

This toilet is *MAJORLY FLAWED* due to the 1 gallon per flush. If it were 1.28 and/or 1.6 gallons per flush, it’d be near unstoppable.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Exactly

[@ToiletsandTests]

I like these

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It's pretty interesting

[@ToiletsandTests]

@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations agreed

[@jamalcitty2]

Flush rating is an E+ Performance rating is a B+

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It's not too bad for a 1 gallon toilet.

[@jamalcitty2]

How many gallons per flush

[@cjtplumbing9419]

1.0gpf

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

1 gallon even.

[@jamalcitty2]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations possibly

[@missiondemolition]

I would love to see it on a high tank!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I wish I could test it on a high tank.

[@christopherdickson2996]

The Vormax design is rather neat but the length of the flush is the real issue being only 1 Gal - bulk performance is above average (as it tried on the larger items but not enough) and the flush is alright (rinse is good but clearance is not so - but does do it on two flushes equaling 2 Gals) however it does have some power so using more water would be a real contender for it to be a really good toilet. As it is it gets a 'Okay' 6/10 👌(*The Project Source Eco is still the king of the UHET toilets thus far)

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I bet it would be much better with more water.

[@LBC_Plumbing]

This toilet has a good bowl rinse

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Definitely

[@DJTPlumbing]

Awesome toilet

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It's interesting, that's for sure.

[@Joshhhhh12345]

I prefer the esteem vormax since it uses more water for one, and 2 they perform better from my experience. They also look a little nicer and flush better. But I’m not a fan of either

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I don't like VorMaxes at all.

[@frequentflusher]

The tank is large but I still strongly despise these

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Same, this design is super problematic.

[@NyxKemo]

I’m honestly surprised it managed to pass even a washcloth considering it has the AS Tofino style trapway opening, which from my experience, AS Tofinos are unusable on normal use. The double flapper mechanism is just as flawed as it can get, they don’t use standard parts which make them way more expensive to service. Kohler and Toto did it way better with the rimless 360 vortex flush design

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I hate toilets with special parts

[@NyxKemo]

@ proprietary parts just makes everything more difficult for no reason

[@splumbing9130]

I feel 1 Gallon is not enough for toilets to flush well, 1.28gpf should be the standard.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I think 3.5 should be standard

[@cakecard]

HIGH TANK?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I can't do it on this one.

[@janeroseloave1201]

Flush: pretty good 😀 Washcloth: pass 😀 Grocery bag: pass 😀 Washcloth and grocery bag: fail clogged 😞 Attempt 2: fail 😞 Dish towel: fail 😞 Attempt 2: fail clogged 😞 Dry bowl: fast but cool 😎 Clogged siphon jet: awesome 😎 Clogged siphon jet with overfilled tank: amazing 🤩 Only siphon jet: pretty good 😀 Dirt test: quite terrible 😣 Attempt 2: almost perfect 😀 Final result: C+ Very interesting toilet not the best or the worst but not the greatest

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

This toilet is pretty cool but I wouldn't want it installed.

[@martijn2920]

it didnt use enough water and then it doesnt siphon properly (my theory)

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

These toilets just seem problematic in general.

[@elloooooooobacongroupyeabo2987]

hi

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Hi

[@elloooooooobacongroupyeabo2987]

@ nice video

[@Destructionfan457]

I bet that thing would clog a lot

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I wouldn't trust it.

[@HFTFPlumbingrestorationandmore]

I got a Request for this toilet. Dye test and A Washcloth

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

That might be interesting

[@Knbplumbing]

blowout as vormax only siphon jet

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It's a cool test and it's easy to do too.

[@Stanley-w2x]

I do not like toilets clogging

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Most of the toilets I test don't pass everything but I rarely overflow them.

[@Stanley-w2x]

The toilet is swirly What the HECK

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Very swirly

[@martijn2920]

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[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Someone was going too fast

[@Itzhazelmm2]

Wow 52 sec ago

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

You got here fast!