2022 Formula 1 Compared to Other Race Cars

There are many racing disciplines out there - light and grippy formula cars, Le Man prototypes, GT cars, stock cars and superbikes. Each discipline goes about racing in very different ways, each with its own strengths and weaknesses.
But - which is quicker?
Well, I have compared them all using a series of tests to figure this out and the answers may surprise you.
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Now we did this a couple of years ago, but since then Formula 1 and NASCAR have had enormous rule changes, affecting how they all stack up against the pack, so we have ripped up the form book and started again.
The tests being used are 0-60mph, top speed and lap time around a track.
Quick disclaimer, since not all of these cars have raced the same tracks, or done speed runs in the same conditions - there is no way to be 100% accurate with this. (Well, unless someone wants to lend us one of each)
But we can compare lap times at several different tracks to give it the best go possible.
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[@GuagoFruit]

Motogp is wild, how quick they go on straights and it's basically a dude hugging a bike. And when they turn they're just about touching the ground, usually less than 1 meter away from another rider's wheels. Crazy stuff.

[@thetruebatman4632]

It is truly fascinating, the fact that essentially every single turn and straight is plenty wide enough for them to go 5 or 6 across, anyone can set up an overtake anywhere.

[@CommentFrom]

You think that's mad check out the isle of man tt

[@defaultuser3410]

Also fun to be able to see them operating the controls with their hands and feet.

[@deemond5289]

Using their huge balls as airbrakes :)

[@fqeagles21]

@@CommentFrom TT Is Only Dangerous, Moto GP Is more Enjoyable for me,TT Is Crazy

[@MikeThePikeOnAHikeOverTheDike]

The speed record of MotoGP was broken this year at 363.6 kph. Their 0-300kph performance is also bonkers considering how little of the tyre has contact to the road.

[@abexuro]

Yeah, this doesn't seem like a very well researched video. Again.

[@sebastianspieler4842]

yes, Ducati and KTM had over 360 kph at Mugello, they are fast AF

[@monteiro5306]

YOU ARE RIGHT !!!

[@zadsazhad]

I think what he meant is average cause f1 car can go higher and lower based on circuit and circumstances. That's why ig

[@Striball]

I mean even before this year is was somewhere around 356kph in 2018, broken this year at 363kph. Not sure where they got their data..

[@lionritchie8201]

The thing about motogp is there is no roll cage, no crush zones, etc - basically nothing but a piece of leather between the rider and the pavement, barriers and other bikes. It's absolutely nuts safety wise.

[@rhmotes]

Part of what makes it so exciting. When I hear about "AI that can prevent F1 cars from crashing" I tend to think it neuters the sport

[@EstellammaSS]

They have airbags built into their abrasion-fire-proof full body leather which also doubled as a HANS device by limiting the helmet movement when triggered. And their run off area are much more generous to allow the rider to slide and separate from his bike. Sure you might get a bruise from a high-side but even breaking a bone is a very rare occasion. The only real risk of death is getting hit by another bike which unfortunately can’t be solved, only minimized by adjusting track layout.

[@Semtex11]

@@EstellammaSS unfortunately the risk of getting hit by another rider is very real as we have sadly seen. Awesome breakdown! Spot on!

[@yagfiemhsoohw9395]

@James Black wtf

[@bytesandbikes]

a whole lot less to get hit by too...

[@fredericauger8573]

GT3 can actually do a lot more than 190 kph. I’ve seen the stats during the 24 hours of spa and there were doing 240 through eau rouge and the BMW M4 GT3 which was clearly the fastest car during this race was topping 294 kph just before the bus stop

[@ZachRattray]

Was about to comment about that 😂 ain’t now way the top speed is 190… must’ve been on a cooldown lap

[@AtMyOwnPace10]

I think he meant 290. Maybe just a typo

[@liangdar9675]

100% a typo no way it does less top speed than our family car and no way they would believe it does.

[@LoWreck]

@@AtMyOwnPace10 I don't think it's a typo, that would put it ahead of the Formula E on the diagram. It's a genuine mistake I think. GT3s top speeds are somewhere around 290-320km/h

[@GazMoz78]

Yeah I was thinking 118mph? They're Ferrari's, Porsches and Lamborghini's not fuckin hot hatches 🤣

[@WolfJustWolf]

190kph for a GT3 ? That can't be right. My Volvo can probably do that.

[@RhaviMarques]

it probably could, the difference is the GT3s will take a turn with a single downshift and some light braking, while your volvo would pancake on the wall if you even touched the steering wheel going that fast :D

[@evguenicht4664]

@@RhaviMarques he’s talking about top speed, in spa they reach higher than 260 kph, 270 in monza and Bathurst so yeah there’s a big problem

[@Denes2005]

What i think happened is they found the speed in mph, and then forgot to convert it to kmh

[@Noreceipts400]

@@Denes2005 Yeah 190kph is just stupid. TCR cars probably do better than that. Plus gt3 races at le mans, they definitely arent cruising down the mulsanne at just 190 lol, that would be incredibly dangerous. Not to mention literally every game that has a somewhat realistic depiction of a gt3 car would have them doing around 250-290kph

[@animefan73]

That's roughly their average speed at Spa based on 2:16.4 lap time and 7km track length. (average is ~185kph) I'm quite certain these cars are capable of 260kph+

[@miguelribeiro3103]

190kp/h top speed for gt3 is wrong, maybe it is 290

[@amjan]

Exactly!

[@joecar725]

I think it suppost to be 190 mph

[@nirvaesh]

@@joecar725 rest of the speeds seem to be correnct on the kph

[@pirat87pl]

Yeah, I was wondering what's happening there. My Toyota estate can do 200 km/h :D Everywhere else online says GT3s can do around 290 km/h.

[@sneauxday7002]

I assume typo

[@martron7]

GT3 having a top speed of 190 kph is just wrong, you guys sure you didnt forget to translate 190 mph to kph?

[@benny8487]

Wait, since when is 190kph the top speed of gt3 cars? Is it supposed to be in mph?

[@hhuhu6995]

GT3 is sadly just a filler for this video, as well as the other series like MotoGP. They didn't even invest the time in looking up the correct Top speeds. GT3 did over 270 kph Top speed on Imola this year and that is not even the longest straight Gt3s are racing on. MotoGP also did over 360 kph this year in Mugello.

[@David.R06]

@@hhuhu6995 GT3‘s can do over 290 kp/h at Paul Ricard

[@chiefdenis]

@@David.R06 290kph is 180mph

[@hhuhu6995]

@@David.R06 ok didn't watch the 1000km Paul Ricard this year as I wasn't home

[@AtMyOwnPace10]

@@hhuhu6995 Chill, it was a typo probably lol

[@frankhuurman3955]

I really hope Formula E can finally move onto some normal circuits with the new gen cars and top speeds, those street tracks are not memorable at all and I'd love to see them push for longer.

[@formularguments7335]

One of the key features about formula e is that it races on street circuits. There has to be something significant about the series other than the fact it's electric that is unique. Also there is no way they will change because the new concept for next year is still made to excel on street circuits by how the cars are smaller than before

[@frankhuurman3955]

@@formularguments7335 I thought initially the choice of street circuits was because the gen 1 cars couldn't drive that long to be able to do a long enough entertaining race. But might be wrong on that. I get that they won't change it up any time soon but wouldn't it be awesome to see them zoom around Spa, actually hitting top speeds for longer, using attack mode, trying not to run out of battery with those elevation changes. It would add a whole new dimension of electric racing in my experience, especially if they're getting close to hitting F1 top speeds(maybe gen 4?)

[@jerome8670]

@@frankhuurman3955 that was my thoughts also with the length the batteries can go …. Formula E is like a seasons worth of Monaco’s 😓 to much bumper car racing rather than strategy and technique for me still? Maybe it would be a great idea to race say at spa and have a car change for the batteries …almost like a relay race 🤓

[@catlikearcher9955]

They race on street circuits because it brings the racing into cities where electric cars are going to be most useful.

[@jerome8670]

@@catlikearcher9955 ahhhh makes sense?

[@arditb.4389]

Love the vid, but something is wrong with the top speed comparison. Speeds of 350kph+ are very rarely seen in f1, while speed of 360kph+ are far more common in motogp. Really did MotoGP dirty with that obscure stat.

[@Smzxe]

2015 GP bike 362 kph in 900 meters top speed over 380+ kmph 2016 F1 371 kmph on Monza 2022 F1 cars are barely reaching 320 kph on some tracks And some 2022 F1 cars only reached 347 kmph on very long straights so they can still do 350 kph But 2015-2017 Era F1 cars were much faster in straights they were hitting 360+ kph easily I don't know much about F1 or Moto GP I don't watch them But I know basic things

[@nestroit5010]

yeah, even the 500ccm bikes before the 800ccm and 1 liter motogp bikes reached 340kph in mugello. lol. motogp bikes hit 360 easily the past years.

[@vornamenachname913]

And 190kph for GT3 is laughably far off, they can get to 280-290, sometimes even 300kph

[@my_4_brain_cells]

yeah 350 hasnt been seen since 2016 and fe would also not be that fast

[@ThatOnionispog]

well, this video is meant to compair the absolute maximum of the cars

[@tdyerwestfield]

You've not given a fair shake to the bikes. Their record speed, recorded in 2022, was 363kph, their max speed is not 340kph as you've said in the video. The ride height device and holeshot devices, which have made the sport too dangerous, have massively increased acceleration speeds and improved traction. MotoGP hasn't raced at any of the 4 circuits selected either.

[@stopsallmelb]

Not sure why he didn't use Silverstone, as an example.

[@AkachiGP]

Ride Height & Holeshot doesn't make MotoGP more dangerous, just a bit more complex and expensive to develop properly. Also they look really cool when engaged like transformers.

[@tdyerwestfield]

@@AkachiGP When commonly used circuits are now being regarded as 'dangerous' because bikes are too fast for circuits to achieve required safety standards, then the devices that have made the bikes faster are too dangerous.

[@AkachiGP]

@@tdyerwestfield very true, the faster the bikes the more run off areas you need and so on but, if MotoGP starts to ban every new tech brought into the sport, can we still refer to it as prototype racing, or WSBK 2.0

[@tdyerwestfield]

@@AkachiGP They can keep the wings, but there comes a point when the bikes are uncontrollably fast and cannot be ridden safely, therefore devices improving traction and straight line speed may be banned on safety grounds.

[@hersencell6880]

“Gt3 has a top speed of 180.” Me, who’s gotten 285 at the end of the mistral straight at Paul Ricard: “dafuq?”

[@void_snw]

Yup, weird little typo in the research / script I'm guessing

[@MMM-wg2vm]

That was my reaction too, and for nascar too. I had watched them reach 330, and i was confused when he said 319

[@MaximoSirianidelCarril]

@@MMM-wg2vm NASCAR without restriction could get 380kmh at Daytona or even 390kph at Talladega

[@belluh-1huey102]

@@MaximoSirianidelCarril they got 215 mph in Michigan 2014 without help

[@MaximoSirianidelCarril]

@@belluh-1huey102 michigan is intermediate and they run that track with a lower level of restriction. Thats why they dont get those speeds at Superspeedways

[@Hydaaar]

gt3 and Indycar top speed is far off. GT3s easily hit 270+ kph and maybe even near 300kph at a track like le mans. 370 kph as indycar’s top speed is also completely wrong. Scott Dixon set the fastest pole lap this year with 376 kph. Which is an average! Cars were hitting 390 kph and could go quicker if it didn’t have to turn to complete a lap around indy. The videos are usually great, but this one just seems lazy. F1 also doesn’t reach 360 kph without a slipstream, Monza qualifying today showed that they got just under 350 kph. I don’t know where your numbers are coming from. But they’re certainly not correct

[@sweetcheels]

Its an F1 eccentric channel so the skewing of data made sense

[@chadofchads7222]

Indy's are designed for top speed, obviously they'll be faster. If an f1 was designed for that, imagine the difference. They have over twice the horsepower, it's not even close

[@Ceece20]

@@chadofchads7222 …you do know that horsepower does not equal top speed, right? Horsepower is for acceleration with some top speed, which is useful, but the top speed is just incidental. Aero matters more for top speed, which the Indycar would be better at since they have an entire package around that. If you wanted an F1 car to concentrate more on top speed, you would start by making an Indycar and modify it from there, but you wouldn’t be allowed to do that since F1 only does some specific major aero packages for some tracks (like the Italian GP for Ferrari). Indycar literally just has 3 separate cars that they rotate depending on Street/Track/Oval.

[@chadofchads7222]

@@Ceece20 that's why i said, if it was built for that. Remove most of the aero packs from an f1

[@crazydrummer181]

@@chadofchads7222 I don’t think anyone was trying to imply that F1 is inferior because IndyCar goes faster at certain tracks.

[@gustavocastro706]

Well timed with that new graphic: Formula 1 car Safety car Family car

[@ChickenHenne2]

I usually enjoy your videos a lot but this one does not really live up to the usual quality standard. Many imperfections are mentioned in other comments but what bugs me most is that 3/4 of the MotoGP footage is from Moto 2 or Moto 3. Even a clip with sound...

[@hhuhu6995]

The video overall is complet shit. Using Moto 2 & 3 footage for Moto GP is only one thing. There are so many wrong things showen in the video that i think its pure clickbait.

[@monteiro5306]

That's what I noticed...

[@brandonpratt7324]

"motogp" and shows red bull rookies cup on detuned moto3 bikes.

[@OrioshQaaaa]

Also this video is pretty much the same as the old video, sometimes word for word.

[@sarezfx]

Not even Moto3 but Red Bull Rookies cup, which is like showing karting footage instead of F1 cars 😂

[@DrachenBlasen]

Would have loved to see Rallycross and Rally car stacked with all the others!

[@alveolate]

they'd be even harder to compare since their race courses aren't even tracks...

[@alexandersmith7777]

That and even touring cars and v8 supercars.plus last time they had dtm.

[@RichardHennigan]

Technically WRC cars would be the slowest thing on this list, but I don't think you can really compare them with numbers. If you measure speed by how much it makes you shit your pants, I think a WRC car going 200kph through a Finland forest beats everything here except MotoGP (those guys are just insane).

[@DrachenBlasen]

@@RichardHennigan Wrc cars yes both in lap times and probably 0-100km/h they take less then 4 seconds so they would probably be the last or some of the last in the list even if they have 4x4 system. Rallycross cars they in the 0-100km/h would probably beat everyone else since they take 1.8s to reach it

[@tommyliddiard433]

Not sure how you would compare them, maybe for WRX taking it's time through a small section of a course like Catalunya, and comparing it to F1, then for WRC, the only way I can think of would be to take the time from sector 2 at Spa during the Stavelot stage at Rally Belgium last year, and comparing that to F1 through that sector

[@wiryantirta]

You should've included Super Formula and SuperGT500 cars since they both tend to surprise people when they find out that they can give Indycar and LMP1 respectively a run for their money.

[@ericjiang1045]

F1’s setup at COTA probably more similar to Silverstone than SPA.

[@nicovandyk3856]

It would be great to compare the last 20 years of F1 this way. Thanks for the awesome videos!!!

[@GarfieldRex]

👌

[@mcco4492]

I might have missed it but where did the Indycar Spa time come from? Was it just the same formula applied from the other calculations? Just noticed that the Indycar time appeared on the graphic in between you discussing NASCAR and MotoGP. Thanks for the awesome content!

[@psykkomancz]

My guess is it slipped out during editing.

[@AyyLmaoZedong]

@@psykkomancz This whole video is very wonky. From the data to the editing at the end for example.

[@xlMrJonaIx]

indycar also raced at cota in 2019, so it's basically the same formula used for nascar and moto gp

[@bern7851]

I think he compared both times from cota, then got the percentage difference between both which was 23%, I think. Then he got the Spa time from Formula 1 and added the percentage time difference to make the Indycar time.

[@aaronwestley3239]

If you actually listened to him you'd actually understand how he got the indy car lap time estimation

[@danimusat3491]

I am preety sure that MotoGP should be higher at the top speed test.

[@monteiro5306]

And is !!!

[@Yappit]

Cool to be here this early. Glad to see that you've done an updated versrion, look forward to see results.

[@narancs5]

There are some strange parts: 7:18. If nascar with 321kph "comes just under 200mph" and you state in the intro that now Formula E cars have 200mph top speed, then how come they only have 280kph in your graph.

[@FelixandtheSea]

Yeah he really messed up here, also with stating the top speed of the GT3 cars with 190kph which would be 118mph

[@wjvandeneijkhof9038]

This is because the 200mph is linked to the Gen3 Formula-E car that will run from 2023 onwards. Nagel continues that the 2022 Gen2 (if I recall correctly) has a top speed of 176mph.

[@gregrowe1168]

Nascar racecars could go much faster with engine specs from a few years ago, minus the restrictor plates. Take them to a wide open surface like Bonneville Salt Flats and let them use their full 900 hp and highest gearing and they could go 240 mph. Indy Cars could probably run 270 mph there.

[@evguenicht4664]

9:23 1m35 f1 lap is 95s, 2m12 nascar lap is 132s and difference is 39% longer or 28% shorter but not 28% longer So nascar theoretically should get a 2m23 lap time. Being faster than a gt3 at spa and much much slower on COTA is weird. And the top speed of gt3 is in mph

[@Ceece20]

Yep, problem with making up numbers is when someone realizes how much they fudged lol

[@evguenicht4664]

@@Ceece20 I really like all the different class and spa is a great place to compare them. GTE is faster than gt3 cause they have more grip even an open wheel with only 250 hp and 500 kg is faster due to grip too. So it really bugged me off when "with math" they said a 1500 kg chunky boy (dry without driver) with "a bit" of downforce is faster than a GTE or GT1 .

[@wjvandeneijkhof9038]

Although I love endurance prototypes, I think Nigel is overestimating the 0-60 times for the hypercars. They do have 4W drive but contrary to the old LMP1 hybrid, I believe the electric power may only be deployed from 120kmh (2021) and 190kmh (2022) to get the BoP in the hyperclass sorted. This would mean that all HY-class cars reach 60mph using only the internal combustion engine.

[@Alan-ww8vi]

LMP1s had the same restrictions too

[@wjvandeneijkhof9038]

@@Alan-ww8vi Are you sure? I remember that the old LMP1 hybrid were lightning fast when exiting especially slower speed corners because of the four wheel drive train. I do know that the older hybrid systems were more aggressive because of more freedom granted towards the mapping of the power curve (I.e. push to pass).

[@DonatProdanSimRacing]

Exactly this, can't believe they missed that.

[@blankfiile]

@@Alan-ww8vi only 4wd lmp1's from 2012 - 2013 had this restriction. (didnt even apply to the rwd toyota). from 2014 on there was no limits on 4wd

[@Torero2901]

It's funny, I actually compared those laptimes of F1, F2 & F3 at Spa this year and you answered my questions and more with this video. I must say, a return to your content and presentation levels of before when you got your deserved team of now, good to see your passion makes you shine again solo.

[@andresilva8444]

Great stuff. Loved it a couple of years ago and loved it now too.

[@joegaines8448]

You really know your stuff about motorsports man I'm impressed, I had some painful tough days this year but I really am enjoying your content so much the more days I have the more engaged I be into your content, awesome bro awesome.👍👍😀😀

[@herbertkraft7379]

Aaaand again, The Hybrid system in the Hypercar regulations can't be used under 190Kph (Or some other number, depending on the size of the weels) It's not a "Boost" as it was in the LMP1 Regulations but just a fancy Lift and Coast (Once the Electric Motor Powers up, the ICE powers down, the Max power stays the same) and sometimes "better Traction off high speed corners" aid. It's intended that way to level the playing field for smaller manufacturers that don't have the ressources to develop Hybrid systems. It makes it Attractive for People like Glickenhaus to still come with a non hybrid car.

[@stargazeronesixseven]

Always wanted to know the Performance Side of the various Motorsports! Thank You So Much Driver61 Channel for the enjoyable to follow compilations! 🌷🌿

[@Mr.Waffullz]

Why didn't you include Super Formula and Super GT? The GT500 cars posted faster times than the pole Toyota LMH today at Fuji.

[@bboyjunyor]

Let.s see the difference this time compared to the last one! 😁 thanks for the great content! 😁

[@myperspective5091]

I would like to see a test conducted between different types of car styles where you would test the fastest cornering ability. You would create a 1 mile straight away and then at the end of the straightaway you would have the cars do a U-turn to have them cross a pendicular finish line. You would record the fastest 180 degree turn and the fastest exiting speed. You would compare the speeds to a range of radius. The cars could make a sharp turn or a really wide turn, The drivers could choose how slow or how fast they went down the straight away. The drivers would choose the radius. You would look for which is faster leaning, drifting, or high grip.

[@Furious_Bananas]

a LONG straight to hairpin to a highspeed corner (flat) to a short straight and then a 90 degree turn to another short straight (to test exit speed) would be ideal. Alternating turning directions for tire reasons and possibly adding in a banked corner would probably be best though.

[@ao4ispeed]

Fun Fact: A Formula 1 car is 75 seconds faster than a family car

[@rahulravishankar3152]

You know you could always hop into Assetto Corsa or something and send the IndyCars, Formula E's, MotoGP's and Nascars around Spa.

[@nikaddam]

What a great video. I did my research about this before by comparing lap times on tracks they raced before. I also included Super Formula (Japan), Super GT (Japan), DTM (Europe) & V8 Supercars (Australia). Maybe you could include these series in the future

[@robstaccs6128]

How about Super Formula and GT500s from Super GT?

[@sam90o48]

Small update form last 1 year or so MotoGP started to have aero dynamic parts Which actually create a lot of down force and the teams are hiring F1 aero engineering as we'll to improve on it so the current MotoGP bikes do have some aero bits to help them

[@sam90o48]

Also MotoGP is going to race at spa

[@foxtox4755]

These videos r always consistently great

[@MajesticDemonLord]

I must admit, the little sound bite when you do the graph was awesome.

[@yashamin5848]

Both KTM and Ducati have 363kmph as the highest top speed recorded, while KTM also has an unofficial top speed record of 367 kmph

[@Jalingzah123]

A Nascar without a restricted engine would be miles ahead of the competition, having a top speed of 436kph (271mph)

[@Popcorn-vq6ut]

No way that the Nascar is faster than the GTE around Spa.

[@bob_._.]

I assume you added the lap time category to keep the NHRA from making everything else look like oxcarts - 11,000 hp, 330 mph (530 kph), 0 - 100 mph (0 - 160 kph) 0.8 sec

[@gregrowe1168]

0-60 there is no other comparison on Earth. The only thing faster would be actual rockets.

[@KeManYT]

I've always said all racing disaplins deserve respect

[@badenwheeler6890]

Chevrolet: Shows lines of air moving smoothly over one of the least aerodynamic race cars

[@johnniewalker39]

GREAT video!

[@Haksdo2]

The topspeed comparisons with Indycars I always find so weird. The indycars driving at say the Indy 500 are very different from the indycars driving at the normal tracks or street circuits. This meaning totallt different bodywork, steering, gearing etc. If you want to do a more realistic comparison you would be better off judging them as two different vehicles all together.

[@trevg7253]

They do not change the body work at all. It’s the same they adjust it just like f1 does for different tracks. Ofc steering and gearing ratios change like all motorsports do with different tracks. Not so weird after all

[@DavidGossettMusic]

@@trevg7253 There are 3 different aero packages in IndyCar. Road, Short Oval, and Oval/Speedway. The short oval spec essentially removes the top element of the front and rear wings, and the oval spec/speedway runs the fully trimmed aero spec with a downgrade in turbo boost. IndyCars could run much faster in super speedway spec, but don't for safety reasons. Back in the CART days before the Handford device came in cars were occassionally hitting 250mph/400kph. While IndyCar currently has a less sophisticated aero package in road course spec, the pre-"Universal Aero Kit" era had front wings that rivaled F1 in complexity. (Look up the 2015 Honda IndyCar aero spec, it's insane how much it changed.) The spec aero they run now was for the same reason as F1's aero redesign, to improve the competitiveness of the series.

[@xeroxasaurus9883]

It’s the same car/chassis. different modular parts attached or removed. Like how F1 has a totally different wings/floor/body work at Monaco than they do Monza. Technically still the same car though.

[@trevg7253]

@@DavidGossettMusic bro you didn’t need to go into full research mode in a KZbin comment section

[@ryanwhitlock7350]

@@trevg7253 Don't blame him for going full research mode when you didn't know what you were talking about lol. IndyCar has 3 aero kits, similar to how F1 teams have different specs for high or low downforce tracks. It's not that different.

[@nehylen5738]

Nice to have this to get a rough idea. It's lacking one discipline still: the Japanese Super Formula, which I assume would be close to Indycar.

[@aniketmeshram6598]

We are eagarly to see Praga content! This content would be soo wonderful and insightfull! Heartly Congratulations for joining the BRIT CAR Championship! I was pretty damn surprised to hear your name "Driver61" during race!

[@parkerwalsh3340]

This year at Michigan and auto club, NASCAR was hitting speeds of over 206 into turn 1

[@herewegoagain7403]

avg is still below 200 if you watch the entire season

[@parkerwalsh3340]

@@herewegoagain7403 yes but he’s looking at best speeds. Even late into runs there your still 200+ on the straights.

[@herewegoagain7403]

@@parkerwalsh3340 you can’t get best top speed if it is restricted. Pretty irrelevant, lap times isn’t

[@parkerwalsh3340]

@@herewegoagain7403 the cars currently are restricted to 670 so they hit 200+ by the end of the straight. Unrestricted were thinking 220+. Look at 2014, 207 into turn one at kansas!

[@wimvanderschelden1369]

Shame this doesn't include WRC or Super Formula. But I understand WRC would be hard to compare given we don't really have track times to compare or analyze.

[@giratina8693]

Super formula are faster than f2

[@tonyhawkization]

Although we still lack of comparable lap time, but you also need to include underrated series such as Super Formula and Super GT. You might want to include current DTM as well, since they are using what literally a slightly buffed GT3 formula cars, and their calendar is similar to what other series that use GT3 formula are running too.

[@LucasSouza023]

SuperGT are way faster than GTE's or GT3's, and nobody gives the credit to superGT cars...

[@tonyhawkization]

@@LucasSouza023 I agree with you man. The series even implementing success ballast, having crazy aeros, no overtake assistance and with ongoing tyres war, the cars would still have the same pace with non-hybrid LMP-1 (e.g Rebellion R-13). They're insanely fast and still managed to stick on most corners, for a GT formula series, that's pretty batshit.

[@TimO-fx5hf]

You could get Jimmy to run a sim test for some kind of guestimation-work :)

[@tylerdurden3044]

Some points to be mentioned: BoP series like WEC or GT3 series never let the cars race at full potential. Toyotas hypercar f.e. is only allowed to boost its hybrid power at 190 kph, therefore could be much faster if allowed to boost straight on. Todays LMP2 are also nerved extremly due to now slower Hypercars. Also GT3 cars top speed is completly a BoP thing. At Daytona they were as fast as GTEs on the straights. Btw: Were would be GT1 cars or LMP1 be?

[@Marcel_be]

9:29 well, Sainz got pole with a 1:34:356, but in both Q1 and Q2, the fastest times were 1:35:2xx so that's a pretty spot on prediction.

[@MrMoepz]

Cool video, but - and I don't know if you can get that data - comparing cornering speeds of the different series would be really interesting. Take something like Eau rouge, and some hairpin. Then compare the average, lowest and/or highest speeds in those corners. I'm guessing F1 would take all the slow and medium corners, as well as most high speed corners, but who knows. It would be amazing if you could do a video on that. Cheers!

[@GT_177]

Thanks I really enjoyed the vi

[@tomwallach]

I'm a big Formula E fan but 2:10 around Spa seems quite fast considering they basically drive with all-weather street tires and don't have any meaningful Aero. But thank you for including FE in this comparison.

[@devongenereux1656]

i appreciate a comparison without the stupid "which one is better" debate. I love how many different race series are out there. from Sprint cars drifting around dirt ovals to Top Fuel dragsters crushing 300Mph in a few seconds to F1 getting around a circuit as fast as automotivally possible

[@pdubsie]

Thanks for this. Consider adding 100-200kp/h comparisons as well for next time?

[@recordedanemone6399]

drag racers: hold my beer...

[@JaviCS016]

Great update. Next time, please try adding Super Formulas, as I understand that they are the second fastest open-wheel racing cars in terms of lap time

[@gearhead2519]

We should just get all of these types of cars together in one BIG Motorsport Event and see them tear through the track in order to check which Racing Class does what, what are their advantages, their weaknesses, and basically just solving all of this easily!

[@nestroit5010]

topspeeds are inaccurate, F1 this year more like 350, MotoGP 363,6 kph

[@Smzxe]

Actually on Monza 2016 F1 has reached 371 kmph Newer ones can't even reach 320 kph properly but when they have enough boost they can reach 350 somehow 2015 Ducati GP bike 362 kmph in just 900 meters 😂 Which is literally insane that Moto GP bike will keep going 380+ kmph even 400 kph is possible

[@tundaslug07]

On average maybe not just select cars on select tracks

[@nestroit5010]

@@Smzxe yeah 2014 the aero was less draggy and the wings much smaller, this is why even with the first hybrid engines which were much weaker than 2019 onwards they still reached around 355 in Monza. 2022 they are coasting before the breaking zones, almost as bad as the lmp1 cars 2015 lol

[@connermeyers3963]

“I did some clever calculations” did you Scott? Did you? Callum might be fuming

[@jzxtrd337]

F1 lap times on Suzuka are incredible, really shows how much downforce comes into play when carring speed around the circuit. 20-30 seconds a lap faster than most other forms of motorsports.

[@Alan-ww8vi]

Having a good 300-400bhp advantage helps too

[@Kylora2112]

The other series have far more limited engine packages (obviously, if they wanted, NASCAR and Indy could easily pump up the torque and horsepower).

[@PetrolHead_Works]

Absolutely incredible.

[@james45478]

A good companion video would be a comparison of race demands on the driver. Max G force, average g force, heat, speed (reaction time as in which is the most forgiving), etc

[@wss33]

A MotoGP bike could most likely do 400 km/h if they were given a long enough straight. They have to brake much earlier than cars. And F1 and MotoGP have insane 0-200 and 0-300 acceleration.

[@AtZero138]

I Love Racing.. all times.. I've watched all but the F2 & F3 .. Very cool to see this . And also how The Brick Shaped Nascar stacked up against.. well modern Fast looking GT cars.. thanks for this ...

[@franciscomateosdiaz6194]

Te faltan uno de los modelos que más corren Los Super GT Japonés ! Son impresionantemente rápidos

[@streetburner15]

hey can we get vids when you do racing like i just saw you in praga from broadbent and would love to see a video from you in that sort of style

[@divinasi0n]

Agreed

[@AbrahamArthemius]

A bit of corrections for Hypercar. The hybrid system is only allowed for the front axle if the manufacturers decided to go AWD and there's also LMDh cars that uses a spec hybrid system powering the rear wheels only.

[@hanswurst6712]

All in all an intresting comparison. Just for some nitpicking. Nascar has like literally no trackslimits on Cota at all. So we might need to "nerf" them a bit. And also i dont see that Formula E car performing that good. Ofc, the tighter and slower the circuit the better it gets, but on an "average" circuit no way it can keep up with LMP cars. And if the circuit has a lot of straits, the MotoGP comes in.

[@kubazukowsky6508]

Mate, MotoGP are doing 360km/h.... And to give some justice, 0-200km/h or 0-300km/h time is just on another level

[@DaFunkz]

We need a madman to set laps around the Nordschleife in each car

[@kenbujutsu]

"...my estimations of what a new generation formula one car would lap around CotA is a 1:35.000". Well now we know that the average qualifying lap time in Q3 for CotA 2022 was 1:35.110. Damn, right on!

[@cashmasters99]

I would love to see an IRL drag race of all these cars haha

[@monteiro5306]

Scott : Moto GP at Mugello, 29/5/2022 reached 363.6 km/h. (Three hundred and sixty-three point six kilometers per hour). New record for the category.

[@edv1912]

Would gaming simulation of these vehicles [ formula e, moto gp, nascar etc ] on the Spa circuit give an accurate lap time ? Could this be tried please ?

[@Dochartach]

Would be nice to see the GT500 cars of SuperGT on this graph

[@DonatProdanSimRacing]

Very important to note. Hypercars aren't allowed to use the electric motor under I believe 120 km/h, so from a standing start it's just the combustion engine and RWD meaning it really wouldn't be that quick, in fact, would be likely quite slow. Can't believe such an important factor was overlooked.

[@ZOB4]

Can you imagine Nascar at Spa? That would be a sight.

[@andrewthomas8370]

You forgot to mention the size of the balls needed for a MotoGP bike!

[@DonLee1980]

Wrong. New Gen3 Formula E cars are 840kg with the driver weight already included. That's actually lighter than what F1 cars in race trim most of the time. Shows how long aways FE cars have come, and how heavy F1 cars have become.

[@Superfluous.]

The video is great on comparisons, but when Porsche decided to throw half of the technical regulations the LMP1 hybrid class had in it's prime just so they could somewhat unhinge the 919 around nurburgring, they won any sort of battle like this in my heart. The moment those guys managed to drive around nurburgring, record it and have the recording look like it was sped up despite being the real deal around the green hell, what's left for everyone else? I haven't been impressed by any racing series since then except for WRC, and that's because WRC has actual lunatics behind the wheels of those ridiculous toy cars.

[@Smzxe]

Drag Race a Moto GP Bike F1 and Rimac Nevera?

[@SocietyUnplugged]

And no NHRA Top Fuel?

[@Smzxe]

@@SocietyUnplugged no that's too fast 😂

[@jadefilm4369]

a retrospect comparison to today would be interesting: Porsche 962, Mazda 878B, Group C, Group B and DTM

[@peterolsson1470]

During qualifying to the Indy500 this year the pole was taken by Scott Dixon with an average speed of 376.508 kph over 4 laps (10km). In turn three an four he reached speeds close 390kph.

[@scottryan1989]

Stick the same car around an f1 track

[@Smzxe]

Moto GP reached 363 km/h in 900 meters Indy car won't even reach 280 km/h in same distance F1 car took 1700 meters to reach 360 km/h and 2200 meters to reach 370 km/h on mexico city

[@jacekpacuszka1542]

Sir I must protest where is Super formula?

[@gabrielhoy6790]

Could you do a blast-from-the-past comparison with modern era race cars vs older generations? I'd be curious to see a lineup of a Porsche 917 vs a Jaguar XJR-9 vs today's Hypercar and LMP2.

[@ArturoJain]

Formula E also raced in Mexico City’s circuit (as far as I remember, no variations) on 2017 or 2018

[@Ausknutz]

You made a mistake when you said the only tracks F1 and FE race is Monaco. They also both race at Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez in Mexico. But overall nicely done!

[@KayJblue]

The original video had more effort put in imo.

[@qbensez172]

this one has many cuts in many places and incorrect info (there is no way gt3 cars to top at 190 kph for example), i don't know why tho, glad someone else noticed it

[@racerguy6979]

Racing is always about speed. Nascar especially on road is soooo fun. Tons of power and until now an h pattern shifter no traction control or abs. Heavy and doesn’t handle or brake. Just man handle it around. Each series is great that it’s different and if I were a pro racer I would wanna dabble in each. A 800 horsepower dirt sprint car would be pretty fun too

[@marc59056]

Next comparison, how many errors are in this comparison

[@j_oliveira4442]

Good! Cant wait for the neee...

[@Smzxe]

Bro 2015 Ducati GP bike hit 362 kmph and you saying Moto GP bike top speed 340 kph????????? And Moto GP bike was still pulling it had top speed over 380+ kph

[@honeybadger0562]

It’s at Interlagos

[@marcusburger1523]

I think you forgot to change mph to kph on the gte car as 190 seems a bit slow for a race car and fe does 320 in gen 3, as you mentioned in the beginning.