Remember, you test drove a base Africa Twin not the Adventure Sports...
@augustbrante8117 Жыл бұрын
I live in Medellin Colombia and it is a super hilly big city. You can easily find yourself at the stop sign on a super steep hill and having to make a right-hand turn going up too so clutch work is really hard to do. Also on some off-road conditions as well! I love being part of the machine too. But you can do that with shifters too!. I would agree and say the BMW is better with TFT controls and I did have a drive-shaft bike years ago and love them. Not sure I would off road though!
@haskellthompson6310 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the African twin is way better off road imo but the bmw is better on road
@lstavenhagen10 ай бұрын
"slow and steady wins the race". The BMW has a big disadvantage, not mentioned here, that the AT doesn't have: German engineering. No need to go into details on the typical user experience on that. Another more minor, but still important one, is that the AT will run its entire service life on regular gas with no issues; the GS's 12.5:1 CR and more aggressive power adds a lot more risk to doing the same thing. So purchase price as well as maintenance headaches and cost of operation tilts a bit more towards the AT than may be commonly acknowledged....
@moomoodeadcow Жыл бұрын
I've never ridden a big gs but that bike must be the one bike that I consistently hear positive comments about throughout the many years of motorcycling.
@parthasarathy5222 Жыл бұрын
Sir if u rode aftica twin in sports mode it willbe fast
@AndrewAtkinson1 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you had that bike in D. Try S2 for acceleration. I think Honda includes D for fuel economy. I don't use it at all.
@John-motolistit11 ай бұрын
Well, I have a ‘22 R1250gs and a ‘18 Africa Twin standard. The AT is much better offroad and the GS is much better on roads, there was also a $11k price difference between the two.
@650ib11 ай бұрын
Agreed Sir 💯
@milkus2000 Жыл бұрын
you gotta try the manual atas version. definitely not lacking soul
@_BlackTop Жыл бұрын
Our good buddy ADVib here love the Africa twin!
@PleadTheFifth_Racing Жыл бұрын
I got my 1st bike at the beginning of the year and it's the Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT. I bought it for several reasons but mainly my left leg is partially paralyzed and I wanted something easy for me to learn on. I did just order my 2nd bike, the Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP2 and I'll put a Pingel adaptive speed shifter on it to help me work the foot shifter. Love my Africa Twin though, I only use the manual mode and it has just enough power to be fun but it's anything but fast.
@jessemartinez11 Жыл бұрын
Just in time for my lunch break!
@RideToTheSun1 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid; but that looks like the standard machine and not the Adventure Sports. You also have the option to shift yourself. I had an ATAS, now a Triumph RE, and will probably pickup a GS next. Enjoying your channel.
@OARotifa Жыл бұрын
It’s great to see ur R1250GS out and I am curious to know why it won’t go off road again.
@stevemirson843011 ай бұрын
Hey buddy, thanks for the video. Gave me exactly what I needed. I never rode BMW but I drive one, and what you said about "this is a whole different level" is exactly the emotion I frequently share when driving other makes.
@rudedog3529 Жыл бұрын
My 2021 Africa Twin is manual transmission. I didn't like the DCT version. It is limited to 125 Mph, as most of my " adventure " bikes are. Looking to get ECU flashed. On a slight roller coaster road, hit a rise at 124 mph and caught air long enough to think; ' Oh sh-i-i-i-i-t ". 😱😱 Very stable and landed smooth and stable.
@Syn741 Жыл бұрын
did you try the sport 3 mode (S3) on the AT? i heard that's where they give you the most power and pull from all the other modes
@rumporridge1 Жыл бұрын
Always great timing ib!
@jeffjones4071 Жыл бұрын
I wish you made more vids on your R 1250gs. Luv that bike
@shambu0784 Жыл бұрын
Hey bro where's honda cbr1000rr-r Why are you not purchased
@650ib Жыл бұрын
Honda won't send one to Sills Motor Sales for me to purchase. Sills is an authorized Honda dealer. So, screw it.
@vpweber Жыл бұрын
@@650ibOne loyal customer . Props!
@kohinoore Жыл бұрын
Lol, it's not only highway, but also Starbucks clear winner. Taking Landrover Defender 110 for highways is very popular choice among drivers too :)
@doctorstrangelove85878 ай бұрын
Men i would like you to review new s1000gx and compere to gs
@650ib8 ай бұрын
Working on it
@vaggelispetratos12 Жыл бұрын
sorry to mention it but you have at the lowest power position and not to maximum!
@FlashFlash-tb6vf Жыл бұрын
AT should be compared to 900cc adventure bikes. Nothing compares to a GS. I have a 2022 R 1250 GS. My buddy just picked up a 2023 Triumph 1200 Explorer with claimed 150 HP. No contest to GS. GS Superior wind protection and ride quality and pull/speed. Looking forward to r 1300 Gs
@Sharpey76. Жыл бұрын
Tiger is far superior to the tractor that is a GS
@FlashFlash-tb6vf Жыл бұрын
@@Sharpey76.Tiger is a great bike. I'd never take one over my GS. My buddy had to add some contraption to his screen to get wind protection. I can cruise all day at 85 to 100 MPH he said his comfort is 75 pushing 80 for long distance comfortable cruise.
@Sharpey76. Жыл бұрын
@@FlashFlash-tb6vf absolute rubbish the screen is fine and in reviews its said it may look small but offers good protection.
@FlashFlash-tb6vf Жыл бұрын
@@Sharpey76. All in good humor. He loves the bike now that he has it set up the way he likes and thats all that matters. Its a 2023 1200 Explorer Sodona White. It's a nice bike. I'm a GS guy so I root for my team 🙂
@Vesataeuc18 күн бұрын
You can't say the bike goes slow while hitting the throttle on Normal mode instead of Sport!
@powamoto Жыл бұрын
Oooh yeah Honda is a Leader 🫡🙌🏼great vid 650🤩
@bilal.farooq8607 Жыл бұрын
Bro what's your plan about new bmw 1300 GSA?
@itsjustf1ash Жыл бұрын
I’m always here to see the GS! Those who like the Honda really like it! I’ve come across a few who claim it’s the best ADV bike out there. I ride a V-Storm and sure to get a KTM ADV bike soon! Like the video I’m sure I’m one of many who would like to see the GS again soon!
@AndrewAtkinson1 Жыл бұрын
I see the GS and the ATAS as bijes that only have some overlaping capabilities but different unique qualities. The AT from all reports is better off road. It can tour with a pillion but the GS is the better bike for touring. I'm pretty happy with my ATAS DCT but I'd take a few seasons with the GS too. Id also like to try a season with s bike from the lighter end of the adv scale like the new RE Himalayan or the Triumph 400x.
@ramsay22344 ай бұрын
I mean it feels more premium, because it is... you kinda can't compare them. I've driven better cars than mine, but i still prefer mine, because it set up exactly as i want, same for bikes too.
@gary321 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a Super Duke gt comparison next time mate
@austinmatthews347 Жыл бұрын
Upshifts on my 22 gsa with cc keeps cc on not diwnshifts just upshifts also the gsa looks nicer than africa twin also i am with you auto trans in bikes is just not needed imo
@j-way1809 Жыл бұрын
650ib should test out the new tracer gt and compare it to the bmw 1250.
@OARotifa Жыл бұрын
He’s done that already and there’s no way u would compare the GS with the tracer 9GT. Rather u compare the Super Tenere with 1200 to the R1250GS.
@Jasperjvr20109 ай бұрын
Waste of time to evaluate Honda on tar roads. The Honda is king on dirt roads and technical stuff (probably 70% better ito handling etc). BMW marginally better on tar (perhaps 10% in performance). I have both the GS 1250 and Honda AT
@alexstan535811 ай бұрын
Once people try GS or KtM 1290 they don't want to ride anything else. 130.000km on my GS
@gianni37748 ай бұрын
Which one is better bro?
@alexstan53588 ай бұрын
@@gianni3774 KTM1290 is a beast on road and off-road, but BMW GS is more comfortable on extra long journeys and needs little maintenance. BMW is also super easy to self maintain and parts are cheap if you stay away from dealers. KTM is basically a rocket.
@alexstan53588 ай бұрын
Africa Twin is much inferior bike to ktm or bmw
@donatotusi91406 ай бұрын
@@alexstan5358 explain that to my 390 adventure that has all kinds of problems at around 20.000 km lol what a shitty maker
@GEN084 Жыл бұрын
Adrian twin needs more torque it’s slow for it’s weight
@hennies950910 ай бұрын
I think you need to set up the bike first, take it off-road, and then make a decision. You do not drive your road bikes on an off-road track to make decisions on them, do you?
@jobe20001 Жыл бұрын
Not really a fair comparison at all. The Honda is not even close to the $$$ of the BMW. You probably should've rode the non DCT version.
@rockymtnnut Жыл бұрын
Why a automatic?? WHY??
@tbonesixtynine10 ай бұрын
haha 'turn switch it where it supposed to be'. Actually it wasnt for many years. BMW moving over to the current 'japanese style single button' from the original bmw style dual buttons left and right cause a riot all over the planet :) The regular GS is better onroad than the adventure. There is no use getting the adventure unless you actually intend to drive across Africa or something similar IMHO.
@nicholastoo85810 ай бұрын
There’s more wind noise with the bmw.
@Sharpey76. Жыл бұрын
Guessing another GS fanboy
@650ib Жыл бұрын
Yes 🤪
@Fer-Megasim Жыл бұрын
hahaha friend before driving close the AT usb cover
@3317RIDER. Жыл бұрын
Love from India ❤❤❤❤
@larryvaughn72432 күн бұрын
Cannot compare the two period.
@super_soilder_mma Жыл бұрын
Hello sir can you give me one bike please Duke 390 is my dream bike but I cannot afford it please 🙏🙏
@marcmm6655 Жыл бұрын
The GS sounds like a loooooong fart 😊 …anyhow… nice bike 🤗
@VineV-Dutch Жыл бұрын
You're using an off road bike as an highway bike with the AT. there's a 150cc difference, completely different gearing, and others need that lightweight, that you give criticism for being born around, for lifting up the AT after a fall on a muddy road in Asia, The Alps, or in Brasil. The DCT is something beautiful for off roaders. And the delay is just something you need to get used to. And the cc disengage is a good thing on a gravel road. You've given criticism to the AT on a field where one shouldn't use is. It's not meant as a commuter or highway bike. Therefore: you're video is redundant. And you didn't do your research correctly on the lookout for a new highway motorcycle. Learning younger motorcyclists a wrong thing, using an bike used for off road use as a highway bike, while there are much more better alternatives for a highway motorcycle, like cruisers.
@buhdando900510 ай бұрын
He was riding it on D, what are you talking about lol
@buhdando900510 ай бұрын
I always love to hear from people who believe that the pinnacle of human brain capacity is the ability to shift gears manually. Also, before posting reviews, perhaps you should drive the bike for a bit, learn its basic operations, and then, maybe, you won't embarrass yourself by driving it in D mode and complaining that AT "has no soul". Obviously, the GS is on a whole other level of engineering (which costs an additional $10k, by the way), but honestly, your "review" is an absolute waste of time.
@numanch8714 Жыл бұрын
#650ib♥️
@ericrusch82584 ай бұрын
Yeah but dirt..
@manousosnightwatcher2094 Жыл бұрын
DCT is the future..Honda leads the way and no japanish and of course no european can follow..