2022 Low Rider ST.. VOIDING MY WARRANTY?!?!?! EXHAUST AND TUNE

Today we install the bassani road rage III 2 into 1 on my 22 low rider st, as well as a power vision tuner pre mapped from fuel moto. All parts purchased through them
Big shout out to the guys at fuel moto once again for helping make this an easy process, be sure to check them out and mention i sent you!!
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[@Donfleebie1]

This is one thing I dislike about Harley. That bike should have come from the factory with a 2 into 1, low, so the right saddlebag could match the left one in the first place.

[@bobberguy1]

Agreed. Exhaust and saddlebag designers should be fired.

[@rileyhebert6254]

Not to many people are impressed with it. If this generation of bike sticks around i dont see them keeping that design

[@Donfleebie1]

@@rileyhebert6254 Harley also needs to stop declining warranties because someone puts on a pipe, or intake that isn’t SE.

[@rileyhebert6254]

@@Donfleebie1 100% agree their claim to fame on the new sportster they just released is how customizable it is. Not that customizable when you have to use all of their products

[@richardbutler1865]

@@Donfleebie1 I believe it's a matter of the parts that you add being EPA compliant

[@EastboundDwn]

I rode my 22 street bob hone from the dealership and immediately swapped the exhaust and flashed a new map. The sound of a real exhaust and a better tune puts a smile on my face not a warranty.

[@rileyhebert6254]

Very good point!

[@MrDukeofearls]

Should have unplugged the o2 sensors twisting them while still in the pipe is how the wiring gets messed up, that way you can thread them into the new system off the bike and tighten/plug them in once the pipe is mounted. Makes life more simple.

[@nevillegreg1]

You explained the install and tune very well.

[@rileyhebert6254]

Thank you!

[@mojomanmurph1925]

I had a discussion with someone who used to work for corporate. They said the amount of red tape from the EPA and other countries is overwhelming. They spent a ton in legal fees fighting in courts to no avail. There are multiple legal reasons why they do things they do. In order to be able to sell they now have to follow very strict rules. He said don't be surprised if you see some states try to ban the gas powered motorcycle altogether in coming years. Washington already passed laws pushing to switch to electric vehicles by 2030. California and Oregon have bills in legislature currently. Then gas powered motorcycles are next while India and China goes bonkers polluting the world. Just research air pollution in those countries but we are going to suffer for it. If you weren't aware, many of the politicians of a certain party have invested in companies that make electric vehicles and especially the supplies of raw materials.

[@rileyhebert6254]

yeah its getting crazy

[@waferzworld]

Good old “land of the free” lol

[@RayfordRaySiegel]

Screw that COME AND TAKE IT

[@davidjpodurgiel7388]

Dude, I work in the coal industry, cheapest fuel available for electricity and we now have clean burning technology yet they are pushing this New Green Deal BS just to line the pockets of Politicians and the Elites like you mentioned, as China put a new coal fired power plant online every week, Germany is going back to coal as Green almost made them broke. Tired of all these regulations. Thanks for your post.

[@barrybarnes96]

lol. The boogie man is under your bed.

[@KarlOtterman]

Just have to use a Harley approved tuner and you’re good. I was told as long as I don’t touch the internals they don’t void the warranty.

[@ericjames7680]

San Francisco Harley builds brand new Low Rider S models all the time with 2 into 1 S&S exhaust , there is one in their showroom right now. It is the tuner that will get you into trouble.

[@rileyhebert6254]

Correct I was told S&S and vance hines will not void you warranty because they are backedand sold by Harley

[@anthonydean590]

Harley was going to sell me the bassani when I was buying the bike they said nothing about warranty they have bassani in there catalog

[@ericjames7680]

@@anthonydean590 I was looking at the Screaming Eagle mufflers and the parts guy at another Harley dealership told me they were junk and to consider after market.

[@kevincooper2619]

The S&S 2 into 1 has a cat in it… that’s why it is warranty friendly with HD

[@pborsh255]

S&S pipe is 50 State legal

[@AJckz]

sounds like freedom, nice vid riley :)

[@rileyhebert6254]

Thank you!

[@cody3665]

Stage 1 does NOT affect warranty in any way. Literally just talked to my dealer about this.

[@projektiron7105]

I run a RR3 on my 21 FXLRS here in the UK, you’re right, it really brings it to life, plus it’s a total head turner. Not sold on a 22 ST yet, but I wanna go bags and FXRT so it might be a worth while investment, time will tell!!

[@rileyhebert6254]

i had the same thoughts with my old dyna but in the long run this was the better option for me

[@Iniquityslasher]

Get viking bags

[@mpower3279]

My dream has come out, i like the Low Rider S and i want a Road Glide. This is the child of a relation between the two!! (Owner of a Fat Bob 2019)

[@rileyhebert6254]

Definitely a dream bike for many

[@HudsonMoto]

Awesome video! Sweet looking bike! Some people want peace of mind and some people could careless about the warranty. You have to do what makes you feel comfortable.

[@rileyhebert6254]

100% is up to each person and I don’t blame anyone who decides either way

[@lowriderST24]

@@rileyhebert6254 Didn't Harley get in trouble for that lie?

[@Hoodsolo]

They can't void warranty AS LONG AS THE TUNE IS EPA COMPLAINT...

[@HD2O13XL12OOC]

Nice I can't wait to see your stage two video 📸

[@rileyhebert6254]

Won’t be long I’m pumped to see what this bike will do stage two after just a simple exhaust and tune

[@Tom-ck8hg]

Did you remove the catalytic converters or put them back in the exhaust manifolds? Why didn't you buy an adjustable exhaust system. I built a Kesstech on my Fat Bob 117 cui. Really hard!!

[@rileyhebert6254]

ive been a fan of bassani for years and their exhuast system is 1 piece. There is not catalytic converter on this exhaust

[@user-op3ib2fh6f]

amazing exhaust sound

[@johndough5346]

I’m torn on this myself. I just bought a FXLRST and blew the motor right after leaving the dealer. Less then 15 miles on it. Now I’m stuck with this bike. I usually don’t care about a warranty but now I think I should run the new motor for a year or so under warranty. I’ve had multiple Harley’s from Evos to twin cams and never had this issue.

[@rileyhebert6254]

sounds like what happened is very rare and could have just been a batch of bad luck. I also would be hesitant though.

[@kevincooper2619]

Did it wet sump…. I had a 19 RG that I put a thundermax in right after I bought it and voided my warranty… right after that it wet sumped and burned up my motor… I’ve been gun shy ever since at voiding the warranty

[@franklaskus2395]

Nothing new seen one of the first twin cam 99 ultra engines developed a knock within 50 miles. Fortunately all stock at the dealership so we replaced the engine. Also found a 03 v rod engine with a leaky head gasket. Found the factory drove a valve adjustment shim or pill into the head with the head bolt. HD opted to just replace the head and hardware on this one.

[@johndough5346]

After almost a month Harley has gotten back to me and said they found the cylinders were bored too big and that caused the scoring. They are replacing the top end and I’m looking at possibly another 5-6 weeks or more just for shipping the cylinders.

[@RB-tx4mn]

@@johndough5346 Covered under warranty or not?

[@clubstyleridahd4695]

The real performance bagger

[@rileyhebert6254]

I’m curious if this bike will now be part of king of the baggers

[@clubstyleridahd4695]

@@rileyhebert6254 Maybe a bagger lights class will come in the future that would be cool

[@summitDan]

Great looking bike Riley,

[@rileyhebert6254]

Thank you!

[@seang3101]

Harley is finally in the news getting sued for voiding warranties for "aftermarket parts". Amen.

[@93ORyan]

Pipes are one thing, but by law Harley has to follow EPA guidelines, The moment you change the tune to a 3rd party is going to get your bike flagged and yuor warranty is toast.

[@bradlozano2571]

Voiding your warranty?...I think yes according to John Maxwell the HD tech...But what a way do it....2 into 1 pipes are the best for performance on your HD...

[@rileyhebert6254]

100% agree it really woke this 117 up and showed me what she’s capable of with stick internals and let’s just say it is CRAZY

[@bradlozano2571]

@@rileyhebert6254 Enjoy it...have fun....You only live once👍😎

[@arthurtamburo7121]

Pipes didn’t void the warranty but that tuner sure did. I would have used a SE tuner and kept the warranty personally. Best of luck 🤞

[@bradlozano2571]

@@arthurtamburo7121 I thought about your comment with the SE tuner...It might of worked good with a map of a SportGlide Stage 3...the SG has a 2 into 1 header...

[@dannywally2917]

Which tuner is that.. I saw a few on their website! Love the setup and think I’m going to end up doing it myself!

[@andrewdreyer7765]

Now all we gotta do is see some full throttle pulls 😏😏 I'm a bassani man, too. Great choice!

[@rileyhebert6254]

Should have a ride video on Friday

[@metalmystic6214]

Did you get full header heat shields in the box? Looks like they are not installed?

[@CMFS101]

How fast were you going into a right turn when you scratched the front right peg mount?

[@BaggerBro]

hey what did you have to do as far as the bag mount ? i about to pull the trigger on this exhaust and want all my ducks in a row .. thanks bud

[@lowriderST24]

For the bag mount bracket, did you have to take the round part of the OEM bracket and put it on the bracket that came with the pipes?

[@lowriderstliving]

Since the tuner keeps the factory tune, if you put the factory tune back on and take it in will Harley know that you put another tune on it?

[@rileyhebert6254]

Yes because the ECM is still flagged that it had been tuned

[@vincezinicola8213]

can you show us what you did for a bracket for your saddlebag mount?

[@AfterBurn65]

Thanks homie!

[@rileyhebert6254]

you got it!

[@24james]

Very informative vid! Thanks for sharing💯👍🏽🏍🦾 Curious, did you wait till you hit the 1000 mile first service before you tuned? I have the 2022 114 Street Bob, but am waiting till the 1st service to tune as dealer did advise the flash voids the warranty. Thanks!

[@rileyhebert6254]

The flash does void the warranty correct unless you go with a screaming eagle one. But I did not wait no I only had 125 miles on it when I tuned it

[@TheJinjerBeardMan]

@@rileyhebert6254 just dealt with this on the 21 street bob, if you use screaming eagle and they do not apply the tune guess what, voids the warranty!

[@waferzworld]

@@TheJinjerBeardMan The Magnuson Moss act states otherwise. Find another dealer because yours is just trying to get every penny possible out of you.

[@davidjpodurgiel7388]

@@waferzworld Not many know about that act, thanks for mentioning. My boss and I discuss that all the time.

[@cameronbartley6139]

Is the pipe mount designed so you can mount the saddlebag.?

[@shredcity7217]

Ah HD. Still one of my favorite bikes, but you breathe on it wrong and that warranty gone lol.

[@rileyhebert6254]

lol youre not wrong

[@franklaskus2395]

This crap started when the EPA fined HD over the Race Tuners. They also were not happy with the freedom loving bikers changing the exhaust systems

[@ncf11]

Nice bike, and vids. Guts to void the warranty. Props. Looking to buy one next year, and now considering voiding it’s your fault lol.

[@dillonkern1905]

Hey dude, at the end it looked the bag bracket was installed? Is that correct or did you just leave it hanging for the video? Thanks

[@rileyhebert6254]

yes sir made a bag bracket myself. Flat stock steel two 3/8ths holes 1 inch and 3/8ths apart center to center

[@FranktheDachshund]

Sounds great!

[@parolajd]

Is there a black version of the new exhaust

[@scottbeaston4631]

Badass video makes me Wana spend money 😂

[@rileyhebert6254]

Bite the bullet if you can it really wakes the engine up massive performance upgrade they are very dumbed down from the factory due to emissions

[@ke604]

Thanks for the video. I now know what not to buy for my ST.

[@rileyhebert6254]

Why not?

[@ke604]

@@rileyhebert6254 TBH, I would stay with the factory exhaust if this was the only alternative and save my warranty from being voided. Maybe it needs a stage 2 cam to pair with it for it to really sound right? Maybe the motor needs to have a load on it, or the throttle needs opened more? But from the short sound you gave us, the sound is just not appealing to me. Then again, maybe in person it's just different than over a video. Idk. I can say I enjoyed how you tried to show every detail of the swap though. 👍 Keep doing that! Thank you again for the video. Much appreciated.

[@rileyhebert6254]

@@ke604 its definitely not for everyone but i will say it sounds very different in person. So if you were looking into it you should really try to find one in person to listen to. Thank you for the support I really appreciate it!

[@sean_321]

So did Bassani sell the bag support bracket? I have been looking everywhere for that thing.

[@rileyhebert6254]

Made it on my own. Vance and Hines makes one if you run their exhaust but it’s very simple to make if you wanted to

[@zachfetter5710]

Looks nice, ignore the hate, you get a warranty because they believe nothing will go wrong in that period anyways so just Ride it the way it’s supposed to be, 5th year of the M8 anyway and you got a CVO powered softail lmao. What made you pick the basani over fuel motos own jackpot? I have a tbr 2-1 and I know the dyno charts suck compared to their jackpot pipe but I don’t wanna cough up a grand until I do my cam swap

[@rileyhebert6254]

the reason i went bassani is because i ran it on my Dyna and just loved the look and sound and when i mentioned it to fuel moto they didnt even try to sell me on their own pipe which obviously i appreciate. Thanks for the support!

[@zachfetter5710]

@@rileyhebert6254 good to know, I’ve never seen them push or promote it they just don’t have dyno charts for anything else. Enjoy

[@timbarnett3898]

My local NW Washington Harley shop voided a new bike warrantee because owner mounted H-D flag too bike! I was amazed, an laughed in their face, when shop started talking, negative wind resistance effects on motorcycle due too flag mounting?

[@rileyhebert6254]

Yup crazy what they will void a warranty for

[@CHIM601]

It’s a M8…… you prob. Should have kept the warranty real talk lol

[@rileyhebert6254]

Only time will tell

[@RB-tx4mn]

You do realize that the M8's of that past couple of years are not the M8's that were introduced in 2016. Issues taken care of. These are great motors.

[@JCunningham21]

you can tune as many bikes as you want with it. you just have to buy a license for each bike.

[@rileyhebert6254]

that makes sense

[@grantproductions5518]

Great install video! What did you have to do to secure the right saddlebag after installing the new pipe?

[@rileyhebert6254]

i made a custom bracket but bassani now sells an actual bracket that works

[@lowriderST24]

@@rileyhebert6254 You made that bracket?

[@rileyhebert6254]

@@lowriderST24 sure did

[@TobyNorthEN]

Great video!!!!

[@rileyhebert6254]

Thank you!

[@TobyNorthEN]

@@rileyhebert6254 are you on IG or other social media? Facebook?

[@rileyhebert6254]

@@TobyNorthEN my Instagram is @rheeeebs

[@mrvicco]

Hi! Riley where did you get the tune file? I ve been looking at dynojets page and there is not a tune for 2022 bikes!

[@michaelm229]

I have the same exhaust however I can't get it one because the stupid torx for the brake are so tight and started to strip.... got any tips?

[@rileyhebert6254]

Harley uses an extreme amount of their very aggressive lock tite. Try heating it up with a torch

[@anniehurleyhone1785]

What did you wind up doing for the bag support?

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

So you voided warranty why? You can use SE Pro Street tuner still limits top speed to 120 mph but there is a work around without voiding warranty. Also S&S Superstreet has 2-1 pipe that doesn’t void warranty. But maybe you have bigger plans

[@rileyhebert6254]

Correct I do have bigger plans, I’m going stage two soon. I’m not a fan of the S&S pipe and I’m also not a huge fan of the screaming eagle tuner

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

@@rileyhebert6254 I’m not a fan of the HD epa compliant tuner either but it has done the job. In addition to it and the S&S pipe like you I did a cam. The SE-498. It made 116 HP. That was back in 2019 so I’m past warranty now and never had an issue but I know of a guy locally that was not so lucky and had to pay for a rebuild. But it was an early M8 that sumpted.

[@rileyhebert6254]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 yeah ive seen the sumping problem as well. Im glad harley finally managed to fix that issue

[@RB-tx4mn]

Vern Lochtefeld I hope you don't think you can use an aftermarket tuner, save the stock tune and reprogram that if something goes wrong. Doesn't work.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

@@RB-tx4mn Nope. The work around was only referring to limiting speed and not through swapping in and out tuners. As stated on my last post if I wasn’t clear I used only the HD SE Pro Street tuner. The dealership tech / dyno tuner did use a 117ci map though to help get more fuel for my 114ci stage 3 build. And this helped to get the 116HP while keeping the AFR on point and in friendly EPA compliant zone.

[@chgofirefighter]

I have the exact same bike in grey color~ The stock exhaust SUCKS! However, HD quoted me almost 3k and they specifically told me that if I don't use a Harley tuner it will void my factory warranty? :( Not sure if this is a sales tactic or good advice~

[@yosishrem7364]

Hi. Did this pipe come with heat shields and did you need to place spacers on your foot peg mount?

[@rileyhebert6254]

It did come with heat shields yes I just don’t run them and no need for spacers on the foot peg mount they were able to stay right where they were

[@yosishrem7364]

@@rileyhebert6254 thanks. I’m really enjoying your build videos. I just purchased the 2022 Low Rider S and wanted to install the same exhaust. Thanks again.

[@rileyhebert6254]

@@yosishrem7364 thats awesome! Thanks for the support

[@brandonwiz]

Does the low rider st have the harley vibration still or has that been sorted?

[@rileyhebert6254]

the M8 engine is very smooth doesnt vibrate like your typical harley in my opinion. Some may say otherwise

[@thebound6888]

Hey man, nice vid. i got a PV 2 B and suppose this wont work with the ST right? did you order a PV 3 ?

[@vincezinicola8213]

PV-3B is the correct one for your 22 ST

[@mrvicco]

the pv2 is also compatible, you only have to buy the pv3 cable....... I have just like that

[@billyhaig2526]

Hey! I have the same set up and having a hard time! Dynojet isn’t getting back to me. Can you email me the tune file they sent you so I can use it for my bike?

[@projektiron7105]

Harley installed my 2 into 1, no mention of warranty void? Is there something I’m missing?

[@rileyhebert6254]

Any exhaust or tuner that is not screaming eagle or Harley will void your warranty

[@ChiefQ83]

@@rileyhebert6254 wtf? That didn't void my warranty on my other lowrider s in 2016 or my street bob 16. I really want this bike. .but the more I think about this thing the more I'm starting to wonder if it's worth it. They definitely should've out the 2n1 pipe and level bags for the extra money they charging .

[@rileyhebert6254]

@@ChiefQ83 I know this doesn’t help the situation but it’s what helped convince me to just ditch the warranty. The factory warranty is garbage anyways. It only really covers major engine failures basically, which of course is great if you needed but even simple things like this void your warranty. Even completing your first oil change yourself voids the warranty and they want $515 to complete that…..

[@rollandklontz]

@@rileyhebert6254 Exhaust will not void the warranty unless it's what caused the damage. The tuner on the otherhand will get your bike flagged. Completing the first service will not void it either you just have to prove that it was done according to the service manual.

[@t.s.racing]

@@rollandklontz sorry you live in a fantasy world. I have 2 bikes in my shop RIGHT NOW, warranty VOID, for not having the dealer do the service.

[@lovesautodetail]

Thanks for the video. I just yeeted my warranty too.

[@rileyhebert6254]

Awesome!

[@Bergamot88]

Yolo

[@rileyhebert6254]

Very true

[@jasonbreedlove495]

Nice!!

[@rileyhebert6254]

Thank you!

[@benzoeller351]

What power vision 3 or 4

[@rileyhebert6254]

3

[@CJCon885]

Lets be honest. We hate Harley’s from the factory. By the time we get the bikes the way we want. They are mostly another brand. We could take a short cut and just buy a competitors bike and have the same bike we pay 5 times the amount for.

[@antoniokhoonsirvong1727]

Does warranty even matter that much? Lol. Serious question though.

[@TheMetalmachine467]

Ridiculous that harley voids your warranty for using aftermarket exhaust and tuner Unless you buy thiers lol

[@hbunz8747]

Say SUPER again, I dare you. For all you guys out there please stop with the “super” description of everything. You might as well tuck your sac back and wear a dress

[@rileyhebert6254]

Noted!

[@beamerandmercedesthebully3111]

Super

[@oldhead_]

Super Duper…

[@beamerandmercedesthebully3111]

Guy named bunz lol… super

[@RB-tx4mn]

OP is a SUPER douche canoe! Super one!

[@palmettolowlife1996]

Dumb sport glide bags. The design Doesn’t breathe aggressiveness this bike deserves

[@rileyhebert6254]

Can always take them off very easily

[@kennethharman2440]

Lord in the name of Jesus take out the EPA and whoever it is in Europe

[@kennethharman2440]

I am sick of these three letter bureaucracies the American people did not vote for this crap

[@jellydick5839]

What is the difference betwen Road Rage II & Road Rage III? Did you need any special brackets for the ST?

[@stevebutton286]

I believe the road rage 2 is steel.